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00:00:00time, we know of his diplomatic
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00:00:01We have multiple options to experience as a diplomat of the Mexican chancellery in his
00:00:04time, a friend of many of the heads of state of that country, and for
00:00:08years in the activity of non-governmental
00:00:11organizations that also work with the United Nations,
00:00:15and since the state cannot especially within the ECOSOC, which is the Economic and Social Council of the UN, which
00:00:18is based in New York. Thank you very much, José Alfredo Ramírez, ambassador
00:00:22for diplomatic and humanitarian affairs. Until a
00:00:26next meeting, as always, on the topic of diplomacy and international relations.
00:00:30Thank you very much,
00:00:342025, China's
00:01:52informed, it is necessary, essential,
00:01:56intelligent, deep, free,
00:02:00democratic analysis about the situation, the scenarios, the
00:02:03trends. Today we are joined by Alejandro
00:02:08Terán Martínez. Alejandro is a lawyer, journalist and one of the most important
00:02:12Venezuelan oil
00:02:14to say, despite the fact analysts. He serves as director of the Latin
00:02:18American Association of Petroleum
00:02:21Entrepreneurs, based in
00:02:34historic agreement
00:02:36who are watching, and what I am has just been signed
00:02:38about 15.6 billion, see all that between Venezuela and the United States, an energy
00:02:42agreement, what does it consist of? Let's explain to the
00:02:46audience, in what terms
00:02:50arise in this new stage of is this agreement signed? Well, first
00:02:52of all, there was a reform of the hydrocarbon law, an act of the National
00:02:56Assembly this year. Second, PDVSA has been signing strategic alliance contracts with the
00:03:00different sectors since
00:03:022021-22, the anti-blockade law, exactly, the anti-blockade
00:03:06law, all that sort of thing, and there have been several
00:03:09strategic cooperation agreements between PDVSA since
00:03:132021-22, because after 2014, with the blockade
00:03:16that they imposed on it, the Venezuela-Texas interconnection
00:03:21dropped by 80%, represented there agreed with and PDVSA stopped producing 3 million barrels
00:03:25to produce 30,000. And then they had to, they
00:03:28managed to recover to 1,200.
00:03:30The coercive measures totally destroyed the industry
00:03:34because it was a very harsh
00:03:38crisis, how do you value this, what siege. However, PDVSA managed
00:03:41very different because it is the stage of to lift production, but then the last naval blockade was deadly,
00:03:45but the following happens: the moment comes when artificial
00:03:49only bank that offers you intelligence begins to take a very important leap, the
00:03:52stock market begins to produce. Shares
00:03:55depend on artificial intelligence. Of the 10
00:03:59largest companies in the world, eight are data companies,
00:04:03and data is manufactured or produced in a very important
00:04:07way with three elements: water, gas, and oil.
00:04:10When they start looking for a way to control this growing
00:04:14monster, which is the new oil, which is data, the United
00:04:18States realizes that its main supplier for the last 100
00:04:22lie, but he's talking to years, which was reliable, reliable Venezuela, was out of
00:04:25the game because it strangled it itself. So there's a strategic
00:04:29movement from that year, which Biden himself started,
00:04:32that is, he went to talk to the oil company, state policy,
00:04:36state policy. Look, the reserve starts to fall, it's at the lowest
00:04:40historical levels of the last 40 years. It's very similar
00:04:43to the reserve level that the United States had when it signed
00:04:47the famous petrodollar in 1971, when resources
00:04:50were low, and they took out the gold standard to...
00:04:53the petrodollar, forcing
00:04:55are the basis of the mixture the Persian Gulf, all the oil companies to buy and sell
00:04:58in dollars. Well, that aspect, the BRICS, OPEC
00:05:02plus, and the creation of new payment mechanisms, affected
00:05:05the dollar and the US debt a lot. So when, when,
00:05:09when, at this moment, the US planners sit down to do the
00:05:12math, and we're going to talk about several things in
00:05:16the program, they realize that they won't make it to
00:05:20December, that the plane has a quarter tank of gas and they can't
00:05:23find where to fill it, and they see their allies are
00:05:26fighting, the Persian Gulf is fighting Russia,
00:05:29and Ukraine continues to gain ground every day. What was
00:05:33left for the US government to do was what it did,
00:05:36negotiate with the one it had always had as a partner,
00:05:40help it rehabilitate, help it get out of what they themselves
00:05:44created, because that's the reality, right? So
00:05:47this historic agreement comes for Venezuela,
00:05:51which consists of what? This agreement consists of
00:05:5417 CPP fields,
00:05:57or oil
00:05:59and hydrocarbon production contracts. Simply,
00:06:02Navec, which already operates in Venezuela, many things
00:06:06have been said, but it has an operation in the east of the country
00:06:10and in the west, a company that is quite well positioned,
00:06:14had made a significant investment and was working
00:06:17the fields, taking the oil and investing in the operation.
00:06:21When they start looking for someone, who is the only one
00:06:25who was precariously advancing here was Navec,
00:06:28so there was no other. The emergency doesn't allow much
00:06:31time to wait for decisions. They immediately told them,
00:06:34you're going to take these 17 fields, we're going to support
00:06:38you financially, you're going to give a percentage to the United
00:06:41States, and we're going to invest $100 billion, and you're going
00:06:44to develop eight virgin blocks, which is another thing. People
00:06:47think that tomorrow there will be ships with barrels in them,
00:06:51that's not how it is. That is, the United States and the
00:06:54US Federal Reserve, the US strategic reserve, will see
00:06:58firm oil first in the next three or four months from what
00:07:01already exists, and then in five years, which is when the
00:07:05large oil fields will start to produce results, and for
00:07:09five years you're going to have to be investing in that operation,
00:07:12building a city, building a country that you yourself strangled
00:07:16with your blockade around those 17
00:07:19deposits. Of course, because petroleum engineering is 70%
00:07:22civil engineering and 30% petroleum engineering. So it's
00:07:25not just setting up a rig with 60 men and starting an operation.
00:07:29It's about where they live, where they eat, what roads
00:07:32they use, what services they use: water, electricity, telephone,
00:07:36satellite, internet, cars, tires, arepas, empanadas, coffee
00:07:40every morning, all that logistics.
00:07:42It will positively affect the region and will make the planners
00:07:48observing, is that there will be a rebirth of the country
00:07:51in this fabulous oil economy that is coming for
00:07:54Venezuela. Why is the sovereign control of oil by the state
00:07:57and Venezuelans not at risk? I want to revive, and allow
00:08:01me, it has been speculated, well, largely it is disinformation
00:08:04and manipulation laboratories. I want to revive
00:08:07something, how was the relationship of the
00:08:11military of General Gómez with Rockefeller, who would
00:08:14be the big shot of that era, and what happened in 1961
00:08:17in Venezuela? In 1961,
00:08:19Gómez realized that he had a totally agricultural
00:08:23country that had no capacity for resources. He signed a
00:08:26CPP with Rockefeller, saying, "Rock, extract oil and
00:08:30build me the infrastructure," and Rockefeller did that. Then General Contreras
00:08:34continued the same operation, then World War II broke
00:08:37out, and Rockefeller and the United States said, "We don't
00:08:40have fuel for the fight against Hitler." Venezuela became
00:08:44part of the allies, and the first hydrocarbon law was
00:08:48made in 1943. Venezuela received that economic
00:08:50impact overnight when Dr. Betancourt said, "We have to
00:08:54sow oil." Arturo Uslar Pietri was already realizing what
00:08:57was happening. A little bit of memory. So the one who
00:09:01capitalized on all that great CPP was named Pérez Jiménez,
00:09:04who built most of the works in his 8 or 10 years
00:09:08of government. Then Rómulo Betancourt came in 1961 and signed
00:09:11the decree that created the Venezuelan Guayana Corporation. They
00:09:15talked with the Iron Mining Company, Orinoco Mining Company
00:09:19and U.S. Steel. Steel was still a very important element,
00:09:22as it still is, and they told them, "I'll sign a contract
00:09:26with you, I'll set up a mining camp in the San Felipe area
00:09:30because Guayana didn't exist, and we'll set up a city."
00:09:33It was planned, and what did Rómulo Betancourt do? He gave
00:09:37them Cerro Bolívar. "Extract all the iron you want,"
00:09:40and they extracted iron for
00:09:4215, 20 years and built a properly planned city, which
00:09:45is Ciudad Guayana. So sovereignty is not being handed over. What
00:09:49the national government is doing is what all governments have
00:09:52done, which is to use the resource, pay for the investment,
00:09:56because Venezuela is not being given the investment for free.
00:09:59Venezuela is paying with its oil for what it is receiving,
00:10:03and on top of that, it is generating infrastructure that
00:10:06will provide services to Venezuelans. That is not handing over sovereignty
00:10:10in any way. Why is it not a privatization? Because it
00:10:14is not even a policy of concessions. What
00:10:16are we talking about? In what central terms are we talking
00:10:19about this new agreement?
00:10:23We'll be back after the break.
00:14:06agreement between Venezuela and the United
00:14:08States. I am going to ask Alejandro,
00:14:12what does it consist of? Why is it not a privatization?
00:14:16Why is this bilateral pact not a concession either?
00:14:19It is not part of a concession policy. What is the
00:14:23difference, Alejandro? Well, first because it is within the
00:14:27framework of the new hydrocarbon law that allows what are
00:14:29called CPPH, which are hydrocarbon production contracts. It is
00:14:33not a concession or privatization, not at all. The ownership
00:14:37of the reserve belongs to the state. What does the state do?
00:14:40The state tells you, "We are going to do one thing: since
00:14:44you are going to develop these oil fields and invest to
00:14:48develop them, I am going to pay you with oil." So
00:14:51you optimize your oil production and what you take
00:14:55is charged to the account I have with you, but you will pay
00:14:58me a royalty and my taxes. So on top of that, unlike
00:15:01the oil opening, which by the way was not paid, 1% was paid,
00:15:05but notice, the oil opening and this operation have something
00:15:08in common: the infrastructure remains in the operation.
00:15:11Of course, Venezuela received $13 million in the oil
00:15:15opening, not in money, but in the upgraders that today
00:15:20of heavy Venezuelan oil, which is the one that is being
00:15:24sold the most right now. So when you go to
00:15:27explore abroad, you are going to invest, you are
00:15:31going to develop some fields in exchange for the oil that is
00:15:35in the field, you are paying him, you are paying him by compensation,
00:15:38he earns from the oil, of course, he pays taxes, of
00:15:41course, it improves productivity, and most importantly, it creates
00:15:44the infrastructure that remains there in the end. So it is
00:15:47a participation contract, the state partners with the investor,
00:15:52pay the investor what it would invest, it says, "Well, collect
00:15:56it from oil production." In our case, we have a strategic association
00:16:00with PDVSA where we provide services and they pay us in
00:16:03crude or product because that way PDVSA's cash flow
00:16:07doesn't suffer, that is the best way, if you will, that
00:16:10the country has to make investments, pay for them with what we have
00:16:14most, which is oil, monetize our oil, and infrastructure
00:16:17remains. So, hey, it's a win-win for Venezuela. The
00:16:21objective beyond the reserves then the objective is to produce,
00:16:25but there's always the focus, if we don't produce, for next
00:16:29year Venezuela won't have 2 million barrels of oil,
00:16:33which it was supposed to have this year and didn't because
00:16:37of everything that happened, it looks very bad for the United
00:16:41States with diesel and with the data center. So here the issue
00:16:45is that we have a hypermonster with a quarter tank of gas,
00:16:48that's the reality, and it's looking for where to fill
00:16:51it, and the only place it can do it is in Venezuela.
00:16:55So the US government and the interests of the big oil
00:16:59companies will do whatever it takes for that to happen. Let
00:17:02me give you an example: Chevron signed a contract with Microsoft
00:17:05to build a data center in Texas. That data center
00:17:09in Texas will consume the natural gas of almost 8 million
00:17:12homes. Where are they going to get that gas from? They
00:17:16signed with Charles Venezuela because the agreement with Venezuela
00:17:19is not only oil, it's also gas, it's gas and petrochemical.
00:17:22So where are they going to get the gas from? Where do they get
00:17:26it if they don't have it there and what they have is sold to
00:17:30Europe? Are they going to raise electricity for residents? There
00:17:33have been strong protests from residents against data centers.
00:17:37So the problem is more serious for the large American market.
00:17:41It's more serious than we think because we're not seeing it,
00:17:44but they're suffering from it and they're anticipating an
00:17:48energy crisis, and the only salvation, it seems unbelievable,
00:17:52and people don't believe it, is Venezuela. If that were
00:17:55not the case, Mr. Oscar, that agreement wouldn't be signed.
00:17:59We are talking about the president of Elsi having established a
00:18:02new model, a new energy model, completely where I have
00:18:06the oil, you have the capital, the technology, but there is
00:18:09also a third dimension, the relationship with the United
00:18:12States is reestablished. It is important, it is very
00:18:16important, fundamental because the US government, and
00:18:20we have made this observation and sent letters through associations
00:18:23to President Trump, to President Biden, asking them to lift
00:18:27the sanctions. The sanctions have been the boomerang that
00:18:30has affected the US market energetically, and we saw
00:18:34that since they took away Citgo. I told you that we
00:18:38were suppliers of Citgo with the little we produced, and
00:18:41when Citgo disappeared from the market and this scenario of
00:18:45the famous interim government began, we in Texas immediately
00:18:48felt the blow, and that's what we are seeing today
00:18:51as very positive, that it is being recomposed, and hey,
00:18:55for us there in the state, we are jubilant, we are celebrating
00:18:58this in an impressive way because even if we are not directly
00:19:02the contractors, it is Navec, but something always permeates
00:19:06to the rest of the teams, and more Texans will come, and
00:19:10more people, and it is a matter of breaking the glass once and
00:19:14for all. That is, we are already in the operation. The
00:19:17government is open with all the phenomena, we have information,
00:19:20well, hey, I think it is a very positive thing for
00:19:24Venezuela in the coming years. The unilateral coercive
00:19:27measures are suspended, or is a repeal
00:19:30inevitable? Well, the government is lifting the sanctions by
00:19:34license. These licenses create a little instability
00:19:37in large investors. No, if Trump lifts the
00:19:41coercive measures before November, which are the elections,
00:19:44it will obviously have consequences in its... Currently, President
00:19:48Trump is speaking to American voters, "We have Venezuela,
00:19:50they gave us the oil, we have gasoline, we have
00:19:54security." People here in Venezuela believe that they really gave
00:19:57it to them, and it's not a his voters there and saying,
00:20:01that discourse has confused a lot of people, talking about
00:20:05energy dominance, then about expansion,
00:20:09duplication of American reserves, it
00:20:12will really be like that in the end because he will
00:20:16have a contract for a significant amount. But, but the
00:20:19question is the following, how do you get it out?
00:20:22You have to get it out. And how do you get it out?
00:20:26You have to invest in it. So really, really, really,
00:20:29President Trump is talking to his constituents, telling
00:20:33them, "Calm down." Note this word, "Calm down, my lord,
00:20:37don't worry, Venezuela is with us." So I say, he almost
00:20:40says, "Venezuela is ours." Well, in Trump's style, of
00:20:44course, of course, but the gringo, gringo, gringo, gringo says,
00:20:48"Hey, if in Venezuela the language also changes, the
00:20:51oil is ours, we want your capital and your..." So
00:20:55we are in two political moments in which the two very important
00:20:59leaders, President Trump and President Biden, are at the
00:21:02same level because interests make them all sit down,
00:21:06one to build what you did to it with the blockades,
00:21:09and the other to save it from its economic crisis. So how
00:21:12do you tell people, "Gentlemen, Venezuela is going to solve
00:21:15the problem?" People don't believe it, "No, that can't be,
00:21:19brother," but, but observe what is happening.
00:21:23So it's an interesting political game because
00:21:27in the end, the big winner is Venezuela.
00:21:30It's a mix of sovereignty with pragmatism.
00:21:34Hey, I'd say it's a mix of sovereignty with pragmatism
00:21:38and that the resource really reaches the citizen, really.
00:21:41It's not that I'm rich but I have everything buried. I
00:21:44have the morocota, I can't take it out. That doesn't
00:21:47make sense. I think everyone has bought into that. Here
00:21:50the doubt that Venezuelans have is a very, very strong
00:21:54thing, which is that they give me what's mine. Mine
00:21:58is mine, yours is yours. Like people who have a barrel
00:22:01of oil in my house, a little bit of the scheme
00:22:04and distrust in the administration, but I say that the administration
00:22:08will be run by the private sector, not the public. That
00:22:12is, PDVSA will not administer those resources, those resources
00:22:15will enter the operation directly by private companies, PDVSA
00:22:18will administer the royalty, or in any case, the government
00:22:22will administer the royalty, but what does it administer?
00:22:25All the social labor growth of the area, which will be
00:22:29exponential. I can tell you that
00:22:32the lady who sells empanadas at the entrance is very happy.
00:22:36She started with a stall and today she has a place.
00:22:39The Venezuelan is very sensitive to the oil issue.
00:22:41Agreements related to public services can be negotiated,
00:22:45even sharing ownership, but with regard to oil,
00:22:49it has become ingrained in the Venezuelan culture, in
00:22:52our national identity, a kind of fixation that
00:22:56oil must be ours, or should be ours, and the
00:22:59agreement reinforces it, but at the same time, that is
00:23:04that Venezuelans consider oil to be theirs,
00:23:08it is part of our identity, our wealth,
00:23:11our economy, fundamentally, it also
00:23:14tells you that the state alone cannot, but
00:23:43laboratories that threaten national stability, but
00:23:45please answer me when
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00:26:52between Venezuela and the United States also implies
00:26:56cultural changes. For Venezuelans today, the
00:26:59State alone cannot do it. But private
00:27:03companies cannot do it alone nor should they, how to
00:27:06explain to Venezuelans that our sovereignty is not at risk
00:27:09nor the sovereign control over our fundamental
00:27:13wealth, when we still see that the country is besieged
00:27:16by disinformation laboratories. Well, the
00:27:19Venezuelan has to understand, this new Venezuelan, this new, this new order that we are living today,
00:27:23we must understand that the era has totally changed and that
00:27:27Venezuela has to monetize its resources to
00:27:30translate them into well-being. What has happened is that the
00:27:3472,000 million that have gone to Venezuela in the last 45 or 50 years have been
00:27:38squandered in a barbaric way, we are not going to evoke what already happened,
00:27:41now sovereignty is intact because the property still belongs to the country and the
00:27:45country is not country is doing is
00:27:49regularizing what it has underground, investing it in the
00:27:53infrastructure it requires, the focus is on producing, that is the
00:27:56necessity, that is the center of this
00:28:00agreement and this debate, to produce in production.
00:28:02and downstream, that is, to the
00:28:05derivatives, which is what the world
00:28:08really needs, eh, explain
00:28:11that to me, when there can be, can the
00:28:15danger of a re-edition of rentism arise,
00:28:19that is, are there really possibilities for economic
00:28:22growth, greater oil production that implies greater
00:28:26growth and development for the country or will we
00:28:30return to that old stage? Rentism and clientelism, I think it's very dangerous because
00:28:33we got used to it since 1958,
00:28:37Venezuela exported 2 million, 3 million barrels, sold it for $2, then
00:28:40sold it for $50 and the surplus, and we didn't spend it. Then we spent it in
00:28:44Miami, oh well, it was cheap. Then came, then came
00:28:48this, the other governments, that's how it was, uh, from Carlos Andrés
00:28:51onwards until 1998 arrived, President Chávez achieved an important
00:28:55agreement in OPEC, oil reached $150,
00:28:59we issued the titles. to grow, to increase production, because OPEC has
00:29:03always said that Venezuela must be at 100 million barrels by 2030, in
00:29:072030, 120 million barrels must be produced,
00:29:10105 are produced, right?
00:29:14And after all the conflict, we will only reach
00:29:17115, 6 million dollars are needed, part of which is being
00:29:21sought in Venezuela to balance consumption, we are talking about balancing consumption,
00:29:24so rentism evidently occurred many times because Venezuela received
00:29:28that amount of money and distributed it. And people saw
00:29:31money without effort, without sacrifice, especially the elites,
00:29:35but for God's sake, of course, those great Palestinian
00:29:38businessmen, there are 50,000 cases in this regard, so this new stage is
00:29:44crisis, we had never been in this crisis,
00:29:47we have learned from the crisis like never before,
00:29:51a more resilient, hopeful,
00:29:55hardworking country, the oil engineer who is in PDVSA
00:29:59who went through the oil strike, coup, whatever.
00:30:03And today he is vice president of the company or president of the company or the
00:30:06Minister of Hydrocarbons who started as an intern and today is
00:30:09minister, well, they have lived through all the stages of this oil crisis,
00:30:13so the new PDVSA or the new Venezuelan businessman or the new or the
00:30:17new, the new one who is growing, uh, in
00:30:20the oil business has learned a lot, has taken
00:30:23many blows and to top it off, the earthquakes, so
00:30:27we are entering a stage of economic growth but with a lot of
00:30:30learning, so people know, we have to take care of the private sector, we have
00:30:34to take care of sovereignty, it's important, but social development is also important, there is
00:30:38a severe electrical problem nationwide that the power goes out for 5-6 hours
00:30:42a day, that will improve, it is being worked on, but it will take some time, no,
00:30:45because there was also a deficiency in electricity generation, there were acts of
00:30:48corruption, there were many things, that is precisely what
00:30:52is being reborn in this new, in this new, in this new
00:30:56Venezuelan oil order and the new businessman to be a growing
00:31:00businessman, look, PDVSA had this problem, Mr.
00:31:03Oscar, it grew towards the elite of
00:31:07PDVSA, yes, that is, PDVSA was a country
00:31:09apart, it was a country apart, in CBG it was
00:31:12different, as a city had to be built. It grew towards
00:31:16the city and the CBG worker, I was one of
00:31:20them, uh, no matter the position he had,
00:31:23he enjoyed the same benefits as the managers or the
00:31:26presidents, so there was a tacit equality in social
00:31:30enjoyments because there was only one church, there was only one
00:31:33club, there was only one supermarket, there was only one place, there was only one cinema,
00:31:37so everyone had to go to the same cinema, so there was no difference between one and
00:31:41the other, in PDVSA it was not like that, PDVSA grew in an
00:31:45elitist council of the fields where the higher payroll, the executive
00:31:49payroll, practically did not speak to the worker and the salaries
00:31:52were incalculable, so that PDVSA no longer exists, this
00:31:56new PDVSA is the PDVSA of the crisis, that's why I think these
00:31:59agreements and these growths will bring,
00:32:02notice that PDVSA never talked about social issues, now it says gentlemen, the
00:32:05hospitals, well it started with Chavez,
00:32:08so there were many errors, but now in this new one, since we reached a very
00:32:12difficult bottom, the growth will be
00:32:16consolidated and based on experience, do you think the
00:32:20country can then contain, resist the danger
00:32:23of a new rentism, eh, no, no, we won't reach rentism
00:32:27because of the type of companies that will be working here, no, I think we will reach
00:32:31a very soon event called the
00:32:34it consists of, tokenization consists of a change in
00:32:37guaranteeing
00:32:40internacionales, eso es lo que va hacer Trump ahora el 15 de
00:32:43septiembre. pero la ley de claridad de la ley de claridad
00:32:47claritidad permite que con tus reservas lleves a
00:32:50las bolsas internacionales tu reserva petrolera y la logres negociar
00:32:54a futuro, esto es una gran venta a futuro lo que hizo
00:32:58Venezuela, pero es que no es justo que la reserva más grande del mundo que
00:33:03las bolsas de valores, aramco que es una compañía árabe que es la más grande petrolera del mundo
00:33:07en este momento que se hizo con capital de pdesa y de
00:33:10quebrón coloca todos los años 50,000 millones en la bolsa
00:33:14y es ese dinero que lo coloca a futuro lo invierte en su
00:33:17operación y están trabajando monetizar la monetizar a través de las riquezas que
00:33:23que eso es lo que va pasar en los próximos meses oye acá
00:33:27hablamos en términos culturales identitarios también
00:33:31las empresas transnacionales han entendido que el foco no está en la propiedad
00:33:34sino en la producción es que ellos vienen a
00:33:37producir las empresas internacionales no les importa que hacen con la infraestructura por eso hay que
00:33:41aprovechar ni con la propiedad del dellos quieren.
00:33:45producir, sacar su petróleo, cubrir sus
00:33:47deudas, recuperar lo que prepagaron porque están prepagando un
00:33:51petróleo y de una manera contundente sigan adelante, mira, yo
00:33:54siento que tenemos que evaluar bien lo que se
00:33:58dice con respecto a este acuerdo, porque es más va a ser más
00:34:01beneficioso de lo que la mismo operadores imaginan,
00:34:05cuando empiece la el los desarrollos sociales en esa zona que tienen que
00:34:08empezar pues una zona está muy afectada, sea,
00:34:11sea, para producir petróleo hay que primero producir una pequeña ciudad,
00:34:15que soporte esa producción petrolera entonces ahí están las grandes
00:34:19ganancias que va a recibir el oriente del país, entonces me dice un tipo en Valencia,
00:34:23pero es que yo no, a mí no, a mí no me beneficien nada, y las metal mecánicas dónde
00:34:26están pues, en carabo, hay que hacer tubería, tanque, soldadura,
00:34:30dónde sale eso, de carabo y maracay, entonces todo el
00:34:36recibir directa o indirectamente el gran beneficio petrolero, a
00:34:39corto plazo a mediano plazo, aquí va haber tres etapas, la primera etapa porque el
00:34:43venezolano.
00:34:45lógicamente ha sufrido mucho también y y
00:34:49hay carencias significativas a partir de hoy que a partir de
00:34:53miércoles que firmaron los acuerdos que entiendo que están firmando los acuerdos ya lo
00:34:56firmaron viene una una fase inicial de preapertura qué
00:34:59más bajar los equipos contratar los trabajadores bajar las
00:35:03inversiones todo eso empieza ya los movimientos el venezolano empieza a
00:35:06ver inmediatamente el movimiento a partir del levantamiento final de la sanción al banco
00:35:10central que puede el banco central controlar
00:35:13el dólar que el dólar entra al banco central y sea el banco
00:35:17central el que distribuye el dólar, no otra vez de que vingan por aquí que llega por
00:35:20allá, eso está planteado, eso está planteado, mire e eh cómo
00:35:24queda la dolarización que se puso de moda hace un par de
00:35:27semanas, cómo queda ese esa propuesta, pero
00:35:31respóndeme por favor porque es tema interesante, respóndeme una vez que
00:36:30En el área del café hay una oportunidad de negocio, ahí hay nichos
00:36:33importantes de negocio, dónde se puede se puede
00:36:37direccionar para para hacer buenas cosas por el país, hay que
00:36:41apostar por las cosas que el país tiene, ahora van a china, tienen previsto ir hacia
00:36:45otros mercados, tienen previsto hacer otro tipo de de
00:36:48exportación, ha habido un crecimiento sostenido de más del
00:36:5160% de lo que son las exportaciones de café a por lo
00:36:55menos más de 20 destinos en todo el mundo. Mucho de ese café se produce en
00:36:59los Andes, en el centro occidente y viene la torrefacción
00:37:01acá en Miranda, llevar el café venezolano
00:37:05no solamente en el mercado nacional sino mercados
00:37:17ya y descubre una nueva forma de
00:37:20comunicarnos.
00:37:23En Globovisión tenemos mantenerte.
00:37:29Ingresa a globovisión.com
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00:37:39donde sea que estés personas han sido salvadas,
00:37:43rescatadas en el estado de la huaira. Recuerda
00:37:46globovisión en daily motion para que siempre estés
00:38:58Le pregunté al experto petrolero Alejandro
00:39:01Terán sobre la dolarización, es posible
00:39:05una dolarización en este contexto
00:39:08favorable al ingreso en de
00:39:11divisas, no, yo creo que no, no, no es posible, ni factible ni
00:39:15recomendable, por qué, porque tú vas a liquidar, tú te vas
00:39:18a eh flagelar con una moneda la
00:39:21cual tú tienes el dólar bajo tierra, sea tú lo que tienes que sacar, sacar
00:39:25tu dólar petrolero, colocarlo en el mercado. que te paguen el dólar entonces
00:39:28fortalecer tu moneda, esa esa política de la dolarización la aplicó
00:39:32Argentina en la caja de conversión famosísima y qué mal le fue, Ecuador, Ecuador le fue
00:39:36muy mal también eh, en Panamá se ha mantenido más menos porque
00:39:39Panamá es un pueblo muy pequeño y tiene muy poca muy poca
00:39:43eh claro prácticamente es una sede de los
00:39:47Estados Unidos, pero el resto de los países que han intentado ese
00:39:50mecanismo de la caja de conversión que el Domingo Cabalo fue uno de los grandes
00:39:54promotores de eso en Argentina pues mira las consecuencias no qué ha pasado. con eso porque
00:39:58tú no controlas, tú no puedes entregar tu signo monetario
00:40:01a la máquina que no controla, por qué? porque la
00:40:04devaluación y los venes, los bibenes
00:40:07de de las tasas de cambio te permite pues tener es
00:40:11más ingreso, entonces yo siento que eso es una es una posición equivocada
00:40:15eh de varias personas y nosotros que venimos de afuera y que estamos
00:40:18trabajando aquí nos conviene porque una de las
00:40:21grandes ventajas que tiene Venezuela es el bajo costo operativo no, el
00:40:25costo operativo aquí está en un promedio
00:40:28por barril y en Texas tan 49, entonces hay una
00:40:32pequeña diferencia en producir petróleo en Venezuela que producir
00:40:35petróleo en otra parte del mundo, entonces un efecto de dolorización en ese
00:40:38esquema sería negativo, lo que sí va ocurrir es que Venezuela
00:40:42emita su propia criptomonedas muy pronto, para allá vamos,
00:40:46si tenemos mayor reserva cómo lo vamos hacer, ahora que falta un
00:40:49tiempo convertir todo esa riqueza
00:40:52en en papeles que sean negociables y que sean confiables y que tú recibas por
00:40:56ahí los lo necesario para incrementar tu producción, es lo que hacen los
00:41:00árabes todos los años, sea yo no estoy inventando
00:41:03nada, eso ya existe todos los días y dice chebrón firmó
00:41:07ayacucho 8, fíjese usted don óscar, chebrón firma ayacucho 8 hace
00:41:11un mes o dos meses atrás, eleva su capacidad de
00:41:14producción en 46, millones de barriles más en
00:41:17reserva, va la bolsa de valores en Nueva
00:41:20York, conside el acuerdo, pide una
00:41:24liquidación de ganancia y pagó el mejor bono. a sus
00:41:27trabajadores en los últimos 50 años y encima agarró
00:41:30caja para para meter en Venezuela cierto entonces esas
00:41:34son jugadas financieras que nosotros los venezolanos y las
00:41:38empresas estamos amarrados. metablemente y tenemos todo el derecho
00:41:41hacerlo, estamos, estamos entregando la soberanía no,
00:41:45estamos utilizando los recursos que Dios nos dio en beneficio de nuestra gente,
00:41:49qué hizo Emiratos Árabes Unidos y qué hizo Arabia Saudita, oye,
00:41:52monetizó en el primer año después de la
00:41:56conferencia opp en Venezuela $100, millones de dólares, cómo
00:41:59se hizo Dubai, Abu Dhabi, claro, de dónde
00:42:02salió eso, de su reserva petroleras que todavía la
00:42:05tienen, pero la prenegociaron, bueno, eso es lo que
00:42:09tenemos que hacer y... quitarnos un poquito las cantamos, porque eso no
00:42:12amenaza nuestra soberanía, para nada, porque cómo lo amenazar si tú estás
00:42:16haciendo un país completamente, estás vendiendo tu petróleo, te lo están pagando en
00:42:20especie y siempre tienes tu rele medio, entonces yo no
00:42:23entiendo de qué soberania están hablando y qué se está
00:42:26entregando, señor, lo que está, soberanía es bienestar para
00:42:30todos los venezolanos, bienestar para las empresas, mejores
00:42:33sistema eh hospitalarios en el país, mejores escuelas, aquí me
00:42:37dices yo te pregunto, bueno la presidenta lo dijo claramente. tener
00:42:40recursos naturales petroleros bajo
00:42:43tierra, me lo dijo el presidente de la asamblea también, el presidente de la asamblea de
00:42:47qué sirve, exactamente y lo ha dicho todo esa riqueza, pero es
00:42:51algo Torohardi dijo, toro hardi, oye excelente, sea,
00:42:54torohardi que no es del gobierno, todo lo que dijo en una entrevista,
00:42:57a mí me parece muy, hay que tomar unas previsiones, pero espectacular lo que está sucediendo en Venezuela, porque
00:43:01él conoce el negocio petrolero, quien no conoce el negocio petrolero,
00:43:05evidentemente o que nunca opera un campo o que nunca aprendido un
00:43:08taladro no saben lo que está diciendo. Entonces es muy fácil
00:43:11hablar al boleo y decir cualquier opinión cuando yo digo
00:43:15a los alunos analistas amigos míos que son analistas lo respeto
00:43:18mucho pero hay que ver la verdadera realidad de la
00:43:22faja del tigre de cantaura de San Diego
00:43:25Caurutica de Santomé de Maturín qué nos
00:43:28enseña eso nos enseña a aprender que tenemos que de alguna
00:43:31manera ser objetivos y y claros en la
00:43:35operación que vamos hacer y establecernos a dónde
00:43:38vamos cuántas escuelas hacen falta. en Venezuela, el muchacho que están
00:43:42international
00:43:45currencies, that's what Trump will do now on September 15th.
00:43:49But the Clarity Law, the Clarity Law allows you to take your reserves to
00:43:53international exchanges, your oil reserves, and negotiate
00:43:56them for the future, this is a big future sale that Venezuela
00:44:00made, but it's not fair that the largest reserve in the world,
00:44:03which is the Venezuelan one, is not on
00:44:06the stock markets, Aramco, which is a Saudi Arabian company that is the largest oil company in the world
00:44:10right now, which was made with capital from PDVSA and Chevron,
00:44:14places 50,000 million on the stock market every
00:44:18year and that money, which it places for the future, it invests in its
00:44:21operation and they are working to monetize it, to monetize it through the wealth that
00:44:25is underground, of course, exactly, that's what will happen in the coming
00:44:29months, listen, here we
00:44:32also talk in cultural and identity terms,
00:44:34transnational companies have understood that the focus is not on ownership
00:44:38but on production, they come here to
00:44:41produce, international companies don't care what they do with the infrastructure, that's why we have to
00:44:45take advantage of it, nor with the ownership, they want
00:44:49to produce, extract their oil, cover their
00:44:52debts, recover what they prepaid because they are prepaying for
00:44:55oil and in a forceful way, go ahead, look, I
00:44:59feel that we have to evaluate well what is being
00:45:02said regarding this agreement, because it will be more
00:45:05beneficial than the operators themselves imagine,
00:45:09when the social developments begin in that area, which have to
00:45:12start because it's a very affected area, that is,
00:45:16to produce oil, you first have to produce a small city
00:45:20that supports that oil production, so there are the great
00:45:24gains that the east of the country will receive, so a guy in Valencia
00:45:28tells me, but I don't, it doesn't benefit me at all, and where are
00:45:31the metal mechanics? In Carabobo, you have to make pipes, tanks, welding,
00:45:34where does that come from? From Carabobo and Maracay, so everyone
00:45:37at the end of the day will receive directly or
00:45:41indirectly the great oil benefit, in the short term, in the medium term, there will be
00:45:44three stages here, the first stage because the Venezuelan.
00:45:48logically has also suffered a lot and there
00:45:51are significant shortcomings as of today, as of
00:45:55Wednesday when they signed the agreements, which I understand they are signing the agreements, they already
00:45:58signed them, there comes an initial phase of pre-opening, what
00:46:02else, bring down the equipment, hire workers, bring down
00:46:05investments, all that starts now, the movements, the Venezuelan immediately starts to
00:46:08see the movement from the final lifting of the sanction on the central
00:46:12bank, so that the central bank can control
00:46:15the dollar, so that the dollar enters the central bank and the central
00:46:18bank distributes the dollar, not through it coming from here and arriving
00:46:21there, that is planned, that is planned, look,
00:46:24how does dollarization that became fashionable a couple of
00:46:27weeks ago, how does that proposal stand, but
00:46:30please answer me because it's an interesting topic, answer me once
00:46:32we return from the commercials, we'll be right back,
00:46:36what's happening in the country,
00:49:36also monodependence towards the United States are threats that can
00:49:42the nation's life. What do you think,
00:49:44Alejandro? No, I don't think it's intended to depend
00:49:47exclusively on the United States. We can open up to other
00:49:51countries. What's coming to Venezuela is an integral energy
00:49:55consolidation that goes from producing oil and
00:49:58downstream in oil, what does downstream mean?
00:50:02The petrochemicals, gasoline, diesel
00:50:06and placing data centers in Venezuela,
00:50:09exactly, so I think what we're going for, we're talking about
00:50:13the medium term, with foreign investment, private investment,
00:50:17you can imagine that Chevron told Microsoft, let's put it
00:50:20there in Bolívar State, your data center and it gives me
00:50:244.3 trillion dollars, 4.3
00:50:27trillion dollars, that is, I feel that we are going towards that
00:50:31path, we are going towards that monetization of the belt and above
00:50:34all we are going towards the new global energy policy that is not
00:50:38only oil, it is gas, water and earth elements that are all in
00:50:41Venezuela, I feel that is where we are going, but for that
00:50:44we need support, a partner to take us, in this case the United
00:50:48States, now after that is consolidated it will be the United
00:50:51States, it will be. There is a significant deficit in South America, Bolivia didn't have gas left,
00:50:54Vaca Muerta is half dead, so how does China
00:50:58fit in? Well, China has to get its act together, that's why China just signed an
00:51:01agreement with the Iraqis, taking 3
00:51:04million barrels from the Iraqis because the Russians and the Ukrainians are fighting, the problem is that
00:51:08China currently consumes 11 million barrels and produces
00:51:11one, India does not produce
00:51:14oil, so the situation for that part
00:51:17of the world is complicated and the United States knows it, that's why it closed its doors in Latin
00:51:21America, especially in... Venezuela, that is, President Trump what he did was
00:51:24to ensure his corn flour for the next empanadas because if the
00:51:28empanadas don't arrive, then all that revolves around
00:51:31data, because that is the new, the new
00:51:34commodity, data, and if you allow me to see the slide that
00:51:38we have three slides that I want to comment on with you, the most important, the
00:51:42first, not the most important, the first slide is the year, this is
00:51:45the Economist magazine in 2017, the Economist magazine
00:51:49says the most
00:51:52important resource in the world and you observe the oil rigs
00:51:56below and the artificial intelligence companies above,
00:52:00among them Google, Tesla, Tesla was already envisioned as a
00:52:05information controller, no, and it says data, the new rule of
00:52:09competition, year 17, we are talking, exactly 9
00:52:13years ago if I'm not mistaken, the world can go more than a confrontation,
00:52:17a competitiveness, but it is already laid out, so this
00:52:21issue is what has come, these are the precursors
00:52:24to what we are experiencing, if you show me the
00:52:27second, the next one, look year 1960,
00:52:31the control of the United States over the rest
00:52:36of the planet, year
00:52:39influence even within the United States, so that's where the
00:52:43second conflict began, the Americans realize that the Chinese
00:52:46invaded us everywhere, look at that level of influence, there is a policy of
00:52:50containment, they are not trying, they are
00:52:53trying, I think that in the end in the next meeting with Xi Jinping they will reach an agreement
00:52:57and Xi Jinping already warned him, don't fall into the trap of
00:53:00your ideas, yes, he warned
00:53:03him. We observe that it is there for
00:53:06good how the world
00:53:09sees Venezuela, this in the slide is
00:53:12fundamental, this is the Department of Energy, sorry, the
00:53:15International Energy Agency, in the last conference they say
00:53:19this is the situation of the world, the United States, artificial intelligence,
00:53:22Japan robbed it, Korea something
00:53:26else, Germany, Taiwan, Holland,
00:53:28England and South Korea and they say everything these people
00:53:32need and China is in the background. In
00:53:35Venezuela, so for the energy
00:53:38agency, Venezuela is
00:53:41strategic for all these countries that are growing in artificial
00:53:45intelligence, notice that even Israel returned to Venezuela and came here and sat down
00:53:48and helped, so if they are seeing it that way,
00:53:52those who are outside, how are we going to
00:53:56prepare to receive it, that is the second strategy we have to be
00:53:59sufficiently advanced, get rid of a
00:54:02few complexes and say, if the world sees
00:54:06us that way, how do we make the world enter
00:54:10through this hoop, so I think that this slide is a time for
00:54:14Venezuela, it's Venezuela's time definitely, if you put another one please
00:54:17to say ah, look at this, this is the interconnection in
00:54:20money between Texas and Venezuela, year 2014, year
00:54:2425, the last one, in 2014 Venezuela exchanged with
00:54:28Texas 42 million them very much but we have
00:54:31from Venezuela, see how it kept falling until it reached
00:54:35its best moment in 2020 at 1.3 billion dollars and last year at
00:54:396.7, this year it should rise to
00:54:43the United States and Texas have lost in 14 years or
00:54:4710 years of blockade and sanctions, almost
00:54:49500 million dollars, and that affected the American
00:54:53reserve, us, so I think these
00:54:56agreements are simply recomposing the
00:54:59marriage that broke up abruptly and there was no
00:55:03proper distribution of assets. That recomposition is also
00:55:07happening within the country, never
00:55:10before, never before had there been so much consensus
00:55:14regarding the economy and oil as there is today in Venezuela,
00:55:18yesterday I saw the
00:55:21session of the National Assembly, the whole country
00:55:26the agreement, in the streets, we are measuring
00:55:29now interlace, we are measuring the impact of this
00:55:32bilateral agreement. But
00:55:35you see a united country, well, in relation to
00:55:39the fundamental issue which is the economy, the
00:55:43is good is that and also within a context of
00:55:45total depoliticalization, it's no longer political
00:55:49identities, it's pragmatism, convenience,
00:55:52results, I believe that the
00:55:56Venezuelan learned, I don't know if the leadership learned
00:55:58that it's no use to destroy what
00:56:02belongs to everyone, I heard in 2002 people say we
00:56:06have to turn off Venalum, imagine that, but what are you saying? We can't
00:56:09take it anymore, here the level of madness has been so great, that it has brought
00:56:13all these kinds of situations that today, thank God, the crisis
00:56:17has united us all, like atomic bombs united the Japanese,
00:56:21like it united Europe, like the dead, that is,
00:56:24the Spanish sat down before talking and they went
00:56:28and then they had to sit down again with 3 million dead, so that has already
00:56:32happened in the world, so at this moment we are sitting down with
00:56:36all the casualties we have had, with all the loss we have had and with all the crisis
00:56:40we have faced, whoever's fault it is, the Japanese, the Japanese did not
00:56:44blame Harry Truman or the atomic bomb or the emperor, they
00:56:47started to work and in 50 years they did what they did, I think that is what
00:56:51is coming to Venezuela, I think nobody wants, nobody wants, nobody
00:56:54wants anything else to be talked about than well-being,
00:56:58economy and growth and thank God the country understood it, secondly
00:57:02there is a political position that is
00:57:05pushing in such a way to seek a political change, in Venezuela there
00:57:09can be no political change if there is no economic consolidation, and
00:57:13that was very clearly stated, the majority of Venezuelans agree, stabilize
00:57:16the economy. And then the Secretary of State of the United States told
00:57:20a Venezuelan journalist clearly, he said, gentlemen, first we solve the economic
00:57:24problem, we solve the institutions and then we go to elections, that's why I've always said that I
00:57:27wonder if we'll see each other in 2030 because right now I see that the country
00:57:31is focused on a fundamental problem which is well-being before
00:57:35getting into political issues, how do you see the country in 2 years, 3
00:57:38years from now if this process continues,
00:57:42well, if in 2028 we defeat the
00:57:45threats, if in 2028 we produce 2 million
00:57:49barrels and the people quickly
00:57:51see the economic improvement and we control inflation, Venezuela
00:57:55will shoot up to become the largest energy center in the world in the next 5
00:57:59years, no problem, calmly, corruption is a
00:58:02danger in all countries, corruption, whether in the United
00:58:05States, I have no idea, in Europe forget it, in Spain everywhere, in Russia everywhere,
00:58:09corruption is
00:58:12fought when productive systems are improved, where there is
00:58:15productive improvement there is no corruption.
00:58:20The SENIAT will be digitized, that's the end of it, the end of the VAT problem, take
00:58:23off the slide, that's over, thank God, it's called
00:58:27the fulfillment of formal duties, well
00:58:30the modernity of the state, corruption,
00:58:33there will always be, it's an issue and we have to define what corruption would be, looting no,
00:58:37but Venezuela has experienced some very unfortunate acts of corruption and well they are
00:58:43that, but well I feel that it is part of the crisis we have lived
00:58:46through, no. And that corruption has been a fundamental issue, the important thing is that the
00:58:50new Venezuelan, the one who is rising now, sees the country in a very
00:58:54different way, there is a lot of optimism, a lot of hope, a lot of hope and a lot of
00:58:58work, I can tell you that I have traveled through several areas of the country,
00:59:01regardless of political identities, there
00:59:04is not much of that, at this moment people don't care,
00:59:0886% of the country trusts that the president will reach the Finisterre
00:59:11port, in summary sovereignty over
00:59:15resources, over our riches.
00:59:18Pragmatism over operation and social well-being,
00:59:21exactly, well Alejandro, thank you very much for this
00:59:25excellent situational analysis, I hope to see you more
00:59:29often, as you say, not
00:59:30only, to analyze this
00:59:34exciting process that the country is experiencing and that I think