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00:00:00In this regard, we had previously shown an image, I think, in this
00:00:03program from the 90s, at a time when Saddam attacked
00:00:06Kuwait. We all know who Saddam was and what kind of
00:00:10person he was, may God curse him. But
00:00:14they had drawn his picture with the same quality as old posters, riding an elephant
00:00:18and coming to destroy God's house. Saudi Arabia always uses this issue
00:00:21as a tool and for propaganda.
00:00:24The Yemeni strategy is siege for siege.
00:00:28Sea blockade for sea blockade. Sea and air for
00:00:31air. The Yemeni capability is to target
00:00:34air terminals, deep inside Saudi
00:00:38Arabia. When they say
00:00:41do not travel to this airport,
00:00:44it means it's under my strike. And Saudi Arabia, after
00:00:48the bombings that the regime carried out in that issue of the front of documents,
00:00:51which the Yemenis had entered in favor of the people of Gaza, came
00:00:55and destroyed Yemeni passenger
00:00:58planes on the ground. Saudi Arabia was hiding behind this propaganda
00:01:02that there is no air blockade, these people just don't have
00:01:05planes. And well, Yemen is a small country, and there are no
00:01:08major economic interests in it. Saudi Arabia could, with a lobby
00:01:12and a very small cost compared to the money that Saudi Arabia
00:01:16has, work to prevent others from flying to it. The Islamic Republic of Iran
00:01:19was, after all, considering the conditions even for Saudi Arabia to some extent.
00:01:23But the time came when it was necessary to fly.
00:01:27After all, they are our allies, the political delegation. He wants to come
00:01:30to Iran to participate in the ceremony of our martyred leader. In addition
00:01:34to that, from the demands of the Yemenis, let's also say
00:01:38this for sure, that when there was no
00:01:41siege, Yemenis were sent for medical treatment. One
00:01:44of the places they were sent to was Iran, and a large
00:01:48number of Yemenis were literally stranded
00:01:52in our country. And the returning flight
00:01:55brought them with it, meaning it went from Tehran
00:01:59to Sanaa. It also took some of these servants of God, including a child
00:02:03who went very viral. Yes, he was crying.
00:02:06Yes, it was one of the children who had been stuck for one or two years without his parents, for example.
00:02:10And what the Yemenis are saying
00:02:14is exactly this: look, the equation
00:02:17is very simple, remove the siege and it's over.
00:02:20میشه
00:02:22It's the same propaganda model that Israel used. They said that on October
00:02:257th, the Palestinians attacked us, as if history
00:02:29started on October 7th. Now, Saudi Arabia
00:02:32is constantly saying that these people attacked our airports,
00:02:36as if before that, these things weren't happening and they were just
00:02:39praying. There is an image for the Yemenis, if they show the image. The famous slogan of the Yemenis
00:02:43in their gatherings
00:02:46is "siege for siege, airport
00:02:49for airport." Airport against airport, siege against
00:02:52siege. Please, friends, show this image. An image that became very
00:02:55symbolic, very symbolic and very meaningful.
00:02:58Yes. Well, please narrate it. Yes,
00:03:01yes. Well, this image is of Sanaa Airport
00:03:05in 2015, when on the left
00:03:08when Saudi fighters
00:03:11come and bomb during that Operation Decisive
00:03:14Storm, they bomb the airport, planes, runway, and almost
00:03:18everything there, and destroy it. And 11
00:03:22years later, it's Ansar Allah that manages to target
00:03:25Riyadh Airport. Almost the same image is created, and
00:03:29the same
00:04:12terminal is hit, and the plane on the runway is hit, and
00:04:15well, this image is a very symbolic image. That a
00:04:18nation, 11 years after being under the
00:04:21most severe strikes, is under
00:04:25siege, is engaged in a conflict with a coalition of several
00:04:28countries. It stands on its own feet, and ultimately,
00:04:32it has progressed, meaning now we have to say that
00:04:36Saudi Arabia has taken a step back, and it is Ansar Allah
00:04:39and the Yemeni people who have moved forward and can create
00:04:43such images.
00:04:46Currently, in the past few days, Ansar Allah has brought
00:04:50the airports of Abha, Riyadh,
00:04:53and Dammam under attack. These are
00:04:57now news that even Saudi media have confirmed
00:05:00these strikes. Flights at Riyadh
00:05:04airport
00:05:07have been disrupted for 3 days, meaning it's been almost 3 days that
00:05:09they say it has been disrupted and under.
00:05:23Abha, which we heard its name a lot during the past war and
00:05:26before, well, that started before
00:05:29everything and was actually
00:05:32shut down. And in fact, we can say,
00:05:36yes, this is our dear Iran, the Strait of Hormuz,
00:05:39this is Yemen, and this is.
00:05:51This image itself shows the long arm of Ansar Allah, reaching
00:05:55even the furthest points of Saudi Arabia and being able
00:05:58to threaten Saudi interests, and
00:06:01the meaningful targeting pattern,
00:06:04especially in Dammam. Well, Dammam is one of
00:06:07the centers of Saudi oil industry. There are American experts
00:06:10and forces there.
00:06:25A good thing that
00:06:28Ansar Allah did is that by entering
00:06:32this issue of air
00:06:34blockade, it changed something that the
00:06:38Saudis were very serious about, which was to cut off the image of
00:06:42the Yemen crisis, as Mr. Nima said,
00:06:45and to report from the middle,
00:06:48to correct this image. That is, Ansar Allah, with
00:06:51these actions, again corrected this image of
00:06:54the siege, saying that the issue of Yemen is not the operational issue
00:06:58that happened in Bab al-Mandab, it's not the advance of Ansar Allah.
00:07:02The issue of Yemen has been the siege from the beginning, and it was the siege that caused
00:07:05operations at sea to begin, operations in the heights overlooking
00:07:09the sea to begin, air operations to begin. And as long as the story
00:07:13of the siege continues, we will have the same old story. That is, now the Yemeni people are
00:07:16in a position to be able to impose their own interests.
00:07:19The same first question that we raised many times about the story of
00:07:23Lebanon and
00:07:26sometimes it was debated
00:07:29was that we said that Lebanon entered the war for Iran.
00:07:33We had a discussion, we said that
00:07:36Lebanon at one time had coordination
00:07:39and cooperation. In that day, it was certainly
00:07:42revenge for the martyr. But the conditions were such that
00:07:46that action was completely focused on itself. That is, this alignment of the resistance
00:07:50front makes sense here. In the case of Yemen, Yemen has entered,
00:07:54and its timing is completely having a positive effect
00:07:58on our war front. Yes, but
00:08:01it's the Yemeni equation. In fact, what we are saying many times is that the Yemenis are saying,
00:08:04"This siege is against us, and you are getting its answer." This was
00:08:08Mearsheimer's words yesterday, right? Mr. Mearsheimer
00:08:11had said, "Well, this Yemen war, I don't
00:08:14say it's the Iranians' doing, but it's
00:08:17in favor of this front. The economic pressure that Iran is facing
00:08:21is in its favor, and through it, it can put pressure on the global economy
00:08:25and on the Americans and end the war. It's working in our favor." It's completely reciprocal, as I mentioned
00:08:29before. The situation of the Strait of Hormuz
00:08:32has also made the lever of the Bab
00:08:35al-Mandab Strait more effective and has caused
00:08:38this lever to exert more pressure. And for Yemen,
00:08:43we have an advantage for Yemen, and Yemen has an advantage for us in this war.
00:08:46It's a reciprocal advantage that neither side
00:08:50can deny.
00:08:54But fundamentally, the process of ground operations was also what
00:08:58was imposed on Ansar Allah. Look, Ansar Allah's
00:09:01whole position was siege for siege. Then they cooked
00:09:05something up for it, designed it, and carried
00:09:09out a two-front operation. Well,
00:09:11Ansar Allah was not born yesterday and thought about these things before.
00:09:15Every operation it had, it had field readiness, it's not aggression.
00:09:18Even this is my analysis. Now, later, when the documents come
00:09:22out, I really think that the Ma'rib front, which they opened
00:09:26in the first days of the operation, was a secondary front to fragment
00:09:30Ansar Allah's forces. Ansar Allah did not take
00:09:33the bait that was laid for it to fall into the trap,
00:09:37and came exactly to the south. Now it has besieged Taiz,
00:09:40and has occupied the coast.
00:09:51In my opinion, it didn't fall for this deception and came down.
00:09:55What it did, who did this?
00:09:57Look, as soon as it said, for example, "I want to put pressure
00:10:01on Saudi Arabia with a naval blockade to lift my blockade,"
00:10:04those who were Saudi payroll in Yemen suddenly,
00:10:08well, what do they say, tightened their belts.
00:10:12They attacked. Well, the fact that it was able to hit them too
00:10:15doesn't mean that we can say, for example,
00:10:18Ansar Allah has launched an offensive operation.
00:10:22No, it wants to lift its blockade, and this image was clear,
00:10:25right? 2011 2026 2011
00:10:292015, sorry, 11 years. Yes.
00:10:32It has recorded enough, right? I think 11 years is enough.
00:10:36That is, you can't condemn it.
00:10:40Why are you doing this now? Why are you insisting that I lift your blockade?
00:10:43Because the conclusion is that they will not stop politely,
00:10:47and at least my understanding is that his analysis is correct.
00:10:51They have negotiated many times, signed an agreement once, and
00:11:55and destroy, and this shows that. Yes, yes, completely
00:11:59purposeful. Yes, and what's the point? How do you respond
00:12:02to this if a viewer says, "Well, pilgrims are coming from everywhere
00:12:06for Umrah, and Ansar Allah is hitting the airport. Well, what
00:12:10is he doing? Why is he hitting the airport?"
00:12:13Well, Ansar Allah had announced it.
00:12:17Before that, in four stages, I think, it had officially announced in its statements
00:12:20that the Saudi airspace
00:12:23is closed, airports must be evacuated, and we will not allow
00:12:27companies to operate and perform flights.
00:12:31That is, in fact, the ones who should be held accountable
00:12:35are the Saudis themselves. Mr. Saudi, you who have introduced this airport as a credible
00:12:38and safe airport, its name is Medina Munawwarah. Yes, yes.
00:12:41Medina, well, those who
00:12:45have visited Medina, it has a good, large airport. Now
00:12:49it's not the Hajj Tamattu' season. No, it's not Hajj Tamattu'. These are Umrah
00:12:52pilgrims who go throughout the year.
00:12:55It's not even Rajab, which is the peak of Umrah. Yes, it's not the peak
00:12:59either. But anyway, Saudi Arabia has a significant
00:13:02portion of flights throughout the year to this
00:13:05country, which are pilgrimage flights. That is, they generally go
00:13:09for pilgrimage flights. And
00:13:12of course, apart from the discussion of Umrah, apart from the discussion of Tamattu', Umrah is a
00:13:15significant part of Saudi Arabia's economy
00:13:19as well. It's completely very seriously dependent
00:13:22on it, and the fact that Saudi Arabia still keeps it open
00:13:25is because it didn't really want to take
00:13:29this threat seriously or didn't perceive it or didn't believe that this threat
00:13:32would happen in this way. Yes, and of course,
00:13:36in the previous program, I mentioned a list of several days
00:13:39that has continued of strikes
00:13:42that the Saudis are inflicting on civilian infrastructure
00:13:46and non-military infrastructure in Yemen, from
00:13:49hitting schools and hitting residential homes and hitting communication infrastructure
00:13:53and water sources. And this trend continues, meaning Ansar Allah
00:13:57did not start hitting non-military infrastructure, but
00:14:00when one side is hitting your civilian infrastructure, you
00:14:04have no choice but to respond with an equivalent threat and an equivalent
00:14:07action. And almost I think almost
00:14:11all of Saudi Arabia's airports throughout the year,
00:14:14anywhere you reach out to, there will be an airport that has
00:14:18pilgrims in it. Ultimately, an international airport where pilgrims
00:14:22enter. It has a multitude of
00:14:25CCTV cameras. This is very natural, for example, our own country has it, everywhere
00:14:28in the world it's like this. Or this image, these
00:14:32are not what Saudi Arabia uses. Saudi Arabia has latched onto this clip
00:14:36and Arab channels are broadcasting it 24/7, as if
00:14:40it hasn't been doing this for 11 years. The other side has issued at least four official
00:14:44statements, which I have seen, telling them to evacuate and
00:14:48to move their traffic to Medina. I want to hit it. You see,
00:14:51he said it so much that I honestly thought, for example,
00:15:06The field developments of Taiz.
00:15:09The siege of Taiz is complete. Yes, yes. The siege of Taiz is almost complete
00:15:13militarily. The advance from the south towards the city of Taiz
00:15:17is underway. The city has almost completely
00:15:20fallen militarily. Now, according to the available news,
00:15:24the leaders and senior military
00:15:27commanders have evacuated the city. Only remnants of field
00:15:30forces remain. However, armed groups are present.
00:15:34Friends, show Taiz on the map.
00:15:38Yes, this is approximately where Taiz is. Yes, now it is completely
00:15:42green around Taiz. Yes, yes. Approximately, yes. This
00:15:46siege is complete, and the city of Taiz remains. Almost
00:15:49a partial advance in these southern heights, if it happens, can be said to
00:15:53be completely successful. And that massive and noisy operation
00:15:57that Saudi forces carried out to break
00:16:00the siege of Taiz completely failed. The operation that they started
00:16:04from down here to try to take control of the Strait
00:16:07to relieve pressure from the Taiz region,
00:16:10well, it failed. Ansar Allah was able
00:16:13to retake positions that it had sometimes evacuated,
00:16:17and it was able to manage the
00:16:20situation. Well, this goes back to the serious operational capability
00:16:24that Ansar Allah has. They have truly done a great job. With that
00:16:28volume of logistical support they had received against them,
00:16:31they created a very big event.
00:16:35Now, the city is almost
00:16:38on the verge of falling. Of course,
00:16:41militarily and operationally, it has fallen. Yes, yes, yes. Even
00:16:45politically, it is collapsing. Here, we see
00:16:48the serious role of the Qataris. In the previous program, we discussed Al Jazeera
00:16:52and how much Al Jazeera is, after all, tearing
00:16:55its clothes over the issue of Yemen
00:16:59and the issue of Taiz, which was the tinderbox of the conflict
00:17:02in this Taiz dossier and the Bab
00:17:06al-Mandab region.
00:17:08Al Jazeera seriously tried to play a role and
00:17:12kept giving news that it was on the verge of falling,
00:17:15it's falling now, how far have they advanced, and the news
00:17:18was mostly
00:17:21not consistent with reality. But I think yesterday's tweet
00:17:24by Mr. Hamad bin Jassim, the former Prime Minister
00:17:28of Qatar, shows how difficult the situation is
00:17:32for the Qataris. Let me start with an introduction
00:17:35and then get to the tweet. You see, the Qataris
00:17:39had a very significant influence in Yemen, at least in the contemporary
00:17:43era. They had valuable
00:17:46influence and had done great things. For example,
00:17:49during the first to third Saada wars,
00:17:53from 2004 to 2007,
00:17:55the Qataris were the main mediators between
00:17:58the Ansar Allah movement
00:18:02in Saada and the central government. And even after
00:18:05that, the Qataris tried to have a lot of influence
00:18:09and played a serious role in the political space of Yemen.
00:18:12Then in 2011 and the
00:18:15Islamic Awakening or Arab Spring, whichever one
00:18:18you prefer, and the events that happened in that context,
00:18:22Qatar and the Brotherhood gained a lot of power.
00:18:25We can say that the main base of this movement is Taiz.
00:18:28Even during the events that happened in Egypt in 2014,
00:18:32the fall
00:18:34of Morsi. Correct. Yes. After 2014,
00:18:43very large demonstrations in defense of Morsi were held. That is, the influence of the Brotherhood
00:18:47movement could be clearly seen here. Well, these political
00:18:51forces here in Taiz are Qatar's allies
00:18:54and valuable allies as well. They are also important forces
00:18:58for Qatar. Qataris ultimately don't want to lose this field asset
00:19:02and we see that now
00:19:05all this
00:19:28are the real symbols of the hidden government in Qatar. What is a figure like
00:19:32Mr. Hamad bin Jassim saying? What is his point?
00:19:35His most important point is that, well, the situation is such that
00:19:39the entire Gulf Cooperation Council, meaning the six countries
00:19:42of the Gulf Cooperation Council, are facing an existential
00:19:46threat. Everyone must come to Saudi Arabia's aid. Everyone
00:19:49must help Saudi Arabia repel
00:19:52the Ansar Allah threat. And now
00:19:55this is while we have witnessed that even the scene
00:19:59of Yemen was a scene of deep and severe differences between
00:20:03Qatar and Saudi Arabia, at least in the years 2017 to
00:20:062019. That is, during the Qatar blockade incident, we witnessed
00:20:09that Qatar's Yemeni allies
00:20:13were at the forefront of attacking
00:20:17Saudi policies in Yemen and in the entire Islamic world.
00:20:20And well, the Qataris
00:20:23had very seriously used these allies. But despite
00:20:27all the differences they have, we see that in the current situation,
00:20:30where their interests are at stake and their valuable political
00:20:33asset in Taiz is at stake, we see that they have come to the forefront with all their might. Now,
00:20:37they are trying to fully activate Al Jazeera's capacity,
00:20:41and on the other hand, they are also trying to support it in this way. The fact that
00:20:45he tweeted such a tweet and made such a statement in this situation
00:20:49is meaningful. It's a political support
00:20:52and probably, well, a serious non-political support they are giving
00:20:55to the Saudis, so that the Saudis' will
00:20:58at least does not break in confronting Ansar Allah, and perhaps
00:21:02they will increase military pressure on various fronts to break
00:21:06the siege of Taiz or to protect the Qataris' political asset. Well, I infer something,
00:21:10if it's wrong, forgive me. Can we have the tweet about
00:21:13Iran? Let me say that apart from the Yemen discussion, also mention this. This is also
00:21:17what I want to say. The war in Yemen
00:21:21is not a simple matter. That is, to imagine that just because one
00:21:24side, Saudi Arabia, and the Yemenis brought the angry American rider
00:21:28to its knees in that war, the matter is now over, is naive.
00:21:32That's not how it is. Alliances are formed,
00:21:36and initiatives are created by our enemy,
00:21:39and they design things. It's not like, for example, four airports were hit.
00:21:43Perhaps sometimes it's inferred that Saudi Arabia gets two
00:21:47of its airports hit, and it doesn't want to escalate tensions. Well, that's it.
00:21:50No, because retreating has other consequences. It seems
00:21:54that the war will not end so easily.
00:21:57Yes, well, let's just ignore Yemen for a minute. Nothing in
00:22:00the Middle East is simple. The Middle East is not a suitable environment
00:22:04for beginners. It's a difficult place, everything is complicated.
00:22:07است
00:22:09He's talking about something here, he says
00:22:12that this
00:22:15existential threat that Saudi Arabia is facing,
00:22:18شده.
00:23:20Hamad bin Jassim bin Jassim.
00:23:23And now Al Thani is still in power. Now, if this
00:23:26is behind the scenes and he is
00:23:29the same person who, for example, when Mr. Zarif wrote
00:23:32something, he came and said, "Excellent, that's a good
00:23:36point, let's follow this line." Now, the question arises
00:23:40here because look, later he says, "Well, there is an existential threat,
00:23:44and Yemen has been put forward. He is also hitting
00:23:47our main enemy." Of course.
00:23:54In some cases, Iran is right; in others, we are right. Either he doesn't know what an existential
00:23:57enemy is, or he doesn't understand where his existential
00:24:01enemy is. The guy is saying, "Lift my siege," and it's over.
00:24:04Now,
00:24:07from one perspective, I would say that if we consider an existential enemy to mean
00:24:11a complete change in the balance of power,
00:24:14which, of course, is not called an existential enemy, but they are truly
00:24:18in danger of revolution.
00:24:46Maybe he can't do it as much as Saudi Arabia. To the extent of the capability.
00:24:50I mean, he hasn't really launched an existential
00:24:53war with Saudi Arabia. No, no, I mean, I looked at Yemen now, and I'm only concerned with the Iran
00:24:57part. Let's look at the map for a second. You see, I want to see
00:25:00where we stand, at what point we are fighting.
00:25:04Let's just say they think America attacked, and we stood firm, and it's over.
00:25:08Now let's go, for example, and resolve it. The fact is that
00:25:11some things are really changing, and we are in that moment of change.
00:25:15It's possible that because we are in a moment of change, we don't fully understand it. May I take
00:25:19your point? Yes, let's just go up
00:25:21so we can have both the peninsula and Iran next to each other.
00:25:25باشیم
00:25:27Look, this is our dear Iran. All these Arab countries
00:25:31that we are talking about in this region are located
00:25:34on the peninsula. The largest of them is Saudi Arabia. We have Qatar
00:25:38here, we have the Emirates. Now there is a small island here called
00:25:42Bahrain, which is smaller than our Qeshm.
00:25:45And I would also say that here is the Sultanate
00:25:49of Oman. To Yemen and Kuwait, which are
00:25:52here. These countries that we see here
00:25:56are all familiar to us, but I want to say that some obvious things need to be reviewed again.
00:25:59There are two main waterways on both
00:26:02sides of them. If they have money, it means they have to export
00:26:06something to have money, and with their money, they import
00:26:09something. They can't eat oil or money,
00:26:13or bite into the bank account that shows the numbers on their phone.
00:26:17It's obvious, right? Welfare depends on
00:26:20foreign goods. Ultimately, it must be here.
00:26:24On one side, they are facing Iran that has controlled the Strait of Hormuz,
00:26:28and America is trying to take it back. We just talked about the leakage in the Strait of Hormuz.
00:26:31America, with effort and power,
00:26:34has come illegally, like this, to not let Iranians
00:26:38come and no one notices, to take a little oil or a lot of oil,
00:26:41whatever. But it's doing something. Well, this situation can't continue. I want to export
00:26:45oil, increase my production, etc. I can
00:26:48do more. On this side, there is Yemen, and with
00:26:52both of them, we have animosity. Now Hamad bin Jassim is saying
00:26:56they are our main enemy. With Yemen, we also have an existential enemy.
00:27:00Well, in this situation, a dangerous situation for them, in this
00:27:04dangerous situation, which Nima is right to say is not our fault that your situation is now
00:27:08dangerous. Someone driving at 180 to 190 km/h without being in
00:27:11a normal state on the highway, going the wrong way, if they crash, it's really their own doing.
00:27:15But you can't deny that the situation is dangerous for them. We are just saying the situation
00:27:19is dangerous for them now. There is no value judgment on the issue. Well,
00:27:22to understand that he tries his best.
00:27:26Now, all the efforts of those in
00:27:30our country who think, "Well, we're friends now. Look, they're scared.
00:27:34Now it's good that they're scared. Now it's good for them to go to
00:27:38Israel." So what should we do? Let's try to bring them closer.
00:27:41You scared the Emirates and it went to Israel.
00:27:44Otherwise, we can bring it back, for example,
00:27:47to bin Salman.
00:27:51Khashoggi wasn't chopped into pieces with a saw there.
00:27:54He was an honorable, pure, and innocent person. Now you scared him that he will chop
00:27:58the people of Yemen into pieces, and other examples.
00:28:01So in this situation that we are in,
00:28:04regardless of how the war was imposed on us, what the situation is like,
00:28:08we can understand one thing. That is, later, when history, when, I don't know,
00:28:12Australians, for example, read about this period,
00:28:15they will say that there was an Iranian who, with his ally, Yemen,
00:28:19for the first time in a long time in history,
00:28:23found the opportunity to grab
00:28:26the throats of those who had more economic and more political
00:28:29and security power against him. And then they will ask how
00:28:33he used this tool. Did he go and cut cake together,
00:28:37for example, cutting cake, or did he try
00:28:41to use things and establish and register
00:28:45his minimum rights here? So let's look at
00:28:48this part of Hamad bin Jassim's speech from this perspective. And when
00:28:52you pay attention, Hamad bin Jassim is part of the
00:28:55"doves,"
00:28:58meaning he is part of the "peace-loving" faction, advocating
00:29:01dialogue, solving problems with money, and so on.
00:29:04In a country where he himself is part of the "doves,"
00:29:08meaning a "dove within doves" among Arabs,
00:29:11he says Iran is an existential enemy.
00:29:14Well, and now you think, for example, what should bin Zayed be like?
00:29:18That is, if we look at this, we can imagine bin Zayed.
00:29:22In return, what will happen?
00:29:25Is this what I mean? I want to say that sometimes the issue is not for us to say, "Well,
00:29:29that's one way, let's go talk, solve it
00:29:33together." Sometimes you have no other way
00:29:36than to establish power and then negotiate. Look, let me give you an example from before
00:29:39the revolution and conclude my remarks. A Ba'athist government
00:29:43came to power in Iraq that, from the beginning
00:29:46of its rule, had covetous eyes
00:29:50on Iran. Before it, they also had them. That is,
00:29:54Abd al-Karim Qasim, even though he wasn't Ba'athist, was not good with Iran, but his focus
00:29:58was more on Kuwait. Now, these Ba'athists who came shifted their focus
00:30:01towards Iran. Then this government, as long
00:30:05as
00:30:07it wasn't pressured, I'm not making a value judgment. The Shah, through
00:30:11the Kurds, exerted pressure, and there were other pressures
00:30:15until the 1975 Algiers Agreement was signed, which established
00:30:19Iran's rights. Then, after the imposed war, when it ended, what did Iran say?
00:30:22It said, "I don't want the 1975 agreement, which was before the revolution. I want to go back to
00:30:261975." Saddam wrote a letter to the late Ayatollah.30.3/897"> Hashemi Rafsanjani, who was the president
00:30:30then. He said, "I have accepted this and
00:30:33he also wrote underneath it, 'You have achieved all the demands you had, let's finish it
00:30:37now.' This letter of his, out of those 8 exchanged letters, is available on
00:30:40the internet and has also been published as a booklet, both the exact
00:30:44Persian text and the Arabic text. So
00:30:47sometimes you have to put pressure. Now they might say that was Saddam. Pay
00:30:51attention, at the time the 1975 Algiers Agreement was signed,
00:30:54we hadn't fought with them yet. It was a hostile situation,
00:30:58exactly the situation with Oman.