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תכנית חדשה בהגשת רועי קייס ואליאור לוי העוסקת בסוגיות מגוונות הנוגעות למדינות המזרח התיכון ובדגש על העולם הערבי, ושאינם באים בדרך כלל לידי ביטוי בתקשורת הישראלית. כ' סמ'. שידור חי.

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00:00:00regularly at the end of the show, but now we want to say hello
00:00:03to Roy Kass in our neighborhood, hello
00:00:28since the explosion in our neighborhood.
00:00:31Who among us doesn't remember those apocalyptic scenes?
00:00:34More than 200 people were killed, thousands were injured in this disaster
00:00:38caused by the explosion of thousands of tons of ammonium nitrate
00:00:41that was stored in the port for years. This was one of
00:00:44the largest non-nuclear explosions in history.
00:00:48This disaster encapsulated what everyone knew for so many
00:00:51years. Hezbollah, at the time, led by Nasrallah, was
00:00:55the one who controlled Lebanon's strategic facilities. Most of the Lebanese
00:00:59public, Hezbollah and its allies in power, were seen
00:01:02as responsible. Nasrallah tried to deny Hezbollah's involvement
00:01:06in this disaster, but the threats from the judge who tried to investigate
00:01:09the accusations. Six years
00:01:12have passed, Nasrallah is no longer here. Today's Hezbollah is politically
00:01:16and militarily weaker. There is a new
00:01:19brought negative results for leadership in Beirut trying to regain its power and its weapons for the country. But despite
00:01:22everything, the wheels of justice in the land of the cedars turn slowly,
00:01:26very slowly. To this day, no one has been brought to justice. Families.
00:01:32So what can we learn from this? That in Lebanon, the
00:01:35deep state that Hezbollah created is still working
00:01:38overtime to tie down the status of the new leadership
00:01:41to create a different, better and less corrupt
00:01:44Lebanon. Perhaps there is also food for thought for us. Before
00:01:48talking in negotiation rooms about disarming Hezbollah, perhaps it would be better
00:01:51to deal no less with disarming
00:02:06have a conversation from Cairo with the Egyptian writer who went to visit the Palestinians in a new
00:02:10book and resigned from the Writers' Union because of it.
00:02:14We will also jump to Iraq. There, millions have come
00:02:17for the world's largest pilgrimage. With all
00:02:21the pictures from the 40th.
00:02:25I divorce my wife three times! May God destroy We will ask, is it possible to truly disarm a terrorist organization? Not only are we asking
00:02:28this, but also the Turks. They will not succeed in disarming the Kurdish
00:02:32underground, and
00:02:34narrative. The position you express in Ahmed or Aisha
00:02:36knew the transgender imam
00:02:53With Tamar and Vishneko, we will have the latest updates
00:02:56from Mazumoz. We will also have a very special conversation with
00:03:09perhaps in Syria.
00:03:12Bogush will tell us about the legendary Egyptian singer, Abdel Halim, who continues
00:03:16to stir controversy from his grave. But we are starting
00:03:20with this topic. Even today, the whole world is watching the Strait of Hormuz,
00:03:24or rather, the results of the negotiations and talks between Iran,
00:03:27the UN, and those who are in charge.
00:03:50and those side understandings with Oman because
00:03:54Farhan Schenkies, reporter for
00:03:56the region, joins us. What are the latest
00:04:00updates? Is there a white smoke coming out of these talks between Oman
00:04:02and Iran? So hello Roy.
00:04:05The contacts are truly in their final stages. We still don't see
00:04:09white smoke coming out of Oman or Iran, but according to
00:04:12reports, in the coming hours,
00:04:14a joint statement from both countries is expected,
00:04:18officially announcing an arrangement for the
00:04:21shipping lane. An arrangement for the passage of ships in the shipping lanes of
00:04:25the Strait of Hormuz, where, according to reports, ships
00:04:29arriving in the Gulf will first pass through the Iranian shipping lane
00:04:33and exit through the Omani lane. This is the general
00:04:36agreement being formulated between the countries. This agreement, it should be said, is a temporary agreement for 60
00:04:40days, between two and four months, according to reports. And if
00:04:43this agreement is signed, it will be a breakthrough that will lead the United States
00:04:47and Iran to resume their contacts, the contacts that collapsed,
00:04:51it should be remembered, on the memorandum
00:04:54of understanding of Islam Abed that was signed on June
00:04:5717th. Since then, we have seen repeated exchanges of fire.
00:05:24says today that it is very difficult to reach the supreme leader. We have also heard
00:05:28in the past, both this week and in recent months,
00:05:31how much the Iranian president and government are excluded from decision-making
00:05:34and that those who control the keys are actually
00:05:38the meaning of the revolution.
00:05:41Yes, so we will wait. You, of course,
00:05:44will follow, and if, as they say, white smoke comes out, you will, of course, break into us.
00:05:48Thank you very much. Strait of Hormuz. We move
00:05:52to Yemen. In recent hours, it seems that the Houthis have launched an attack against
00:05:55the forces supported by Saudi Arabia. Arab affairs correspondent
00:05:58Liran Aharoni joins us. We haven't seen such friction between the Houthis
00:06:02and the forces opposing them for a very long
00:06:04time. Yes, we haven't seen such a thing
00:06:07for a long time since the de facto
00:06:11unofficial ceasefire between the forces supported
00:06:14by Saudi Arabia and the Houthi forces over control
00:06:18of the region
00:06:21of western Yemen. In recent hours, reports indicate between 30
00:06:25and 45 activists from the Saudi-backed forces
00:06:28were killed in those attacks by the Houthis
00:06:31on a very important front in western Yemen in the
00:06:35southern Yemen region. This really adds to the announcement
00:06:39a few days ago by the Houthis that they are essentially ending
00:06:43the non-fighting that has been going on for the past
00:06:46few years and also escalating their attacks on
00:06:49Saudi ships in the area. So what really is the Houthi's interest here
00:06:53in renewing their ground attacks against the forces supported by
00:06:56Saudi Arabia? The Houthis' claim is that they want to
00:07:00end the Saudi siege on Yemen
00:07:03and actually improve conditions in Yemen.
00:07:07We know that the goal behind this is actually an Iranian
00:07:10goal to increase pressure on.
00:07:19which is considered one of Iran's main rivals, and we are essentially seeing here how another arm of Iran's octopus is being activated in the region. Indeed, and as
00:07:22you said, the Iranians are, of course, always behind the scenes. Liran Aharoni,
00:07:26Arab affairs correspondent, thank you very much. You also continue
00:07:28to follow.
00:07:30In southern Lebanon, it's not quiet even today. IDF strikes in the
00:07:34village of Al-Mansouri in the western sector, the same village whose residents received an evacuation
00:07:38warning yesterday afternoon following the severe incident near
00:07:42it, in which two soldiers were killed and several others were injured by a Hezbollah
00:07:46bomb. Meanwhile, in Rome,
00:07:49another day of direct talks between Israel and Lebanon began, an attempt to discuss
00:07:53all the disputed issues, including the expansion of the pilot areas,
00:07:57border demarcation, and the issue of Lebanese prisoners in Israeli
00:08:00jails. In the media, they claim that American pressure
00:08:03ultimately led to a limitation of the Israeli
00:08:06response. In this context, we say hello to David
00:08:09Schenker, former US Assistant Secretary of State.
00:08:20so new round of negotiations between Lebanon and Israel is
00:08:24taking place, how do you assess the chances of the
00:08:28success of this negotiations?
00:08:31well, I think certainly the Lebanese government and the
00:08:35Israeli government want to make progress, they want these
00:08:39pilot zones to work, um, think
00:08:42there are challenges, i think the
00:08:46government of Lebanon is looking for this to move quickly, they're
00:08:50under lot of pressure by hisballah, but it's
00:08:53going to take some time, you're going to have to verify that the lebanes armed
00:08:57forces is doing its work, so there's a bit of
00:09:00attention in how long this is going to take,
00:09:03but um, i think
00:09:06cautiously optimistic that we're going to make some progress,
00:09:09Israel have taken a very aggressive approach in the... lebanese front
00:09:13is this what board the changes there
00:09:16or that it was counterproductive?
00:09:20well listen, there's no doubt that um
00:09:23Israeli military deployments in lebanon force the
00:09:27issue, um, lebanon typically
00:09:31kicks the can down the road, they prefer
00:09:34not to deal with controversial
00:09:37um difficult issues and this i think really
00:09:40compelled them to do it, but At the same time, I mean you
00:09:44had a government with Naf
00:09:47Salam Prime Minister and Andrew,
00:09:50um, the stars aligned, um, these folks
00:09:54along with the vast majority of Lebanese are
00:09:58just sick of Hezbollah
00:10:01determining matters of war and peace for the
00:10:04country, um, every six, 10 years
00:10:08dragging Lebanon into yet another
00:10:11costly and... disastrous war with Israel, and I
00:10:14think the vast majority of of Lebanese are are finished with this,
00:10:18they want this government to exert
00:10:22sovereignty. Do you believe it? it be possible
00:10:26to hernest the lebanese armed force to disarm
00:10:29hizbala? lebanese armed forces is
00:10:32are rediscent to uh move to
00:10:35confrontation with hisballah and back in the the civil war
00:10:391975 um the army um you know
00:10:43went after one particular sectarian group um
00:10:47and and the army dissolved along sectarian
00:10:50lines um so uh i think they're
00:10:53cautious about it. "they want to avoid it, the pilot zones, I
00:10:57think was put forward as a plan to help
00:11:00diminish the chances for confrontation,
00:11:03but um, clearly Hisbollah is not going to go
00:11:06quietly uh, and ultimately, if the
00:11:09LAF is going to succeed in these pilot zones, it will
00:11:13have to confront Hisbollah because they will attempt to move back into
00:11:17these territories with their weapons, perhaps even to launch
00:11:20you know rockets at Israel from these
00:11:23areas, um, and so..." cerly i think
00:11:26um and inevitably there will be a confrontation, i'm not
00:11:30sure that the l forces will do the
00:11:33work. i would like to ask you, what world do you
00:11:37think that Syria under the wall of ahmadhare can
00:11:41play in lebanon? is syrian interference against hizbala
00:11:45is in the interest of the US and president trump
00:11:49came up with an idea, as we know the president
00:11:52often says things of idea. is
00:11:55without uh vetting or the um the
00:11:58input perhaps of of experienced
00:12:01advisors, um, I think Syrian military deployment
00:12:05in Lebanon is perhaps the worst
00:12:08idea imaginable. Syrian forces
00:12:11are already spread quite thin um in Syria,
00:12:15they have to fight ISIS, try and
00:12:18maintain um order, there there are bombs in
00:12:21Damascus periodically now um and if they go to...
00:12:25Lebanon, this would, I think be purely
00:12:28sectarian fight, you remember that Hisbolla deployed to Syria and
00:12:32essentially was fighting the troops that are now the
00:12:36Syrian military on behalf of Iran and the
00:12:39Assad regime, this would very clearly, very quickly become
00:12:43a sectarian conflict and
00:12:45would would be a blessing I think for his
00:12:49va um rally around the Shia community around as well, Shia
00:12:53community that right now think is uh
00:12:56disillusion uh with this organization that has brought so much
00:13:00suffering on them. The other point I'll make um is that
00:13:04Alshara is Israel's best friend,
00:13:07right? I think there are many in in the government of
00:13:10Israel that refer to this guy as Joani um
00:13:13but as pejorative,
00:13:16but under AlShara
00:13:19um Syria is stopping all of these
00:13:22armed shipments going to hisballah. um being
00:13:26sent by the hashid in in Iraq and and by the
00:13:29IRGC um this is incredibly helpful for
00:13:31Israel um recognition um
00:13:35that
00:13:37uh this is definitely in Israel's interest no doubt it's in
00:13:41Lebanon's interest but it's also in the United States
00:13:44interest and very much in Israel's interest David
00:13:48Chenko thank you very much for this interesting
00:13:51interview by pleasure good talking to you.
00:13:55The world's largest pilgrimage is taking place
00:13:58in Iraq. In honor of the 40th day, Shia Muslims
00:14:02from all over the Muslim world come to the holy sites in the city
00:14:05of Karbala. The pilgrimage marks 40 days since the death of Imam
00:14:08Hussein, who is important to Shias. Iraqi authorities
00:14:11claim that no less than 22 million people from Iraq,
00:14:15Iran, Pakistan, Lebanon, and in fact from all over the world,
00:14:18all participated this year in the pilgrimage. Most of them walked for several
00:14:22days in heat of over 40 degrees.
00:14:35No one cuts ties with you. And Umm al-Banin
00:14:39with you. Welcomes
00:14:41the girls. Hello,
00:14:45is far away. Hello,
00:14:48and the morsel has become We praise Allah and thank Him.
00:14:51My brothers,
00:14:55الزياره وكانت الزياره جميله
00:14:59جدا لان التنظيم بها عالي من العتبه الحسينيه
00:15:02And we completed
00:15:05our mourning.
00:15:10In the people, and he calls
00:15:13Al-Qasim here for more
00:15:17the visitors of Imam Hussein, peace
00:15:20Almighty, the service has been completed,
00:15:24وجئنا لزياره
00:15:37Among the participants in the 40, some high-profile guests. The Iranian Foreign Minister,
00:15:41האיראני למשל, הבאסרקצ'י, עזב את שיחות המשא ומתן עם ארצות
00:15:45He also used the visit to meet with
00:15:49How not? And now
00:15:52לשאלה הקשה, האם באמת אפשר לפרק ארגון תאור
00:15:56מנשק? השאלה הזו רלוונית לא רק
00:15:59לישראל, אלא גם בטורקיה. שם
00:16:02חושבים שזה אפשרי. שנה שלמה עברה מאז שלוחמים
00:16:05ולוחמות בארגון הפיקייק. הקורדי שנחשב ארגון טאור
00:16:09בטורקיה, אלו בעשת העובים שלהם מול המצלמות.
00:16:12But no significant progress
00:16:16השבוע הפרלמנט הטורקי מנסה לבצע מהלך מהצד
00:16:19שלו. ואנחנו אומרים שלום ליואב זהבי, מגיש שהתוכנית
00:16:23העולם היום, איש דסק החוץ הלן
00:16:25זהבי.
00:16:27Hello Kissak, how are you? So, the PKK is getting rid of
00:16:30הציוד.
00:16:33Look, you probably remember that about
00:16:36הpkק שורפים את ה'. שלהם לאחר שהארגון החריז שהוא מתפרק
00:16:39but that was mostly a publicity stunt. There are still thousands
00:16:43in the mountains
00:16:47of northern Iraq, and their fear is that if they
00:16:51ירדו מהערים הללו הם יעצרו על ידי השלטונות
00:16:54authorities who enjoy
00:16:57Iraq. So now what the Turkish parliament
00:17:01מנסה לעשות בעצם זה להגיד לחברה אלה תקשיבו תרדו מהערים
00:17:05תניחו את הנשק שלכם וחלקכם.
00:17:37Maybe there isn't so much trust in this
00:17:40law?
00:17:42So, first of all, he explains, he says himself that the law does not include
00:17:46people who have blood on their hands,
00:17:50not including terrorists with blood on their hands. So he says, whoever was active in the PKK and did not
00:17:53commit murder, was not involved in any
00:17:56from the mountains, and we will grant them a kind of
00:18:00החברה האלה באמת לעשות את זה עכשיו תראה זה מעלה חשד שיש
00:18:03is some kind of trap that Erdogan is really
00:18:06for those
00:18:10Ocalan arrives, he is the founder of the Kurdish
00:18:13in Turkey, the leader
00:18:16הpkק שנים ארוכות הוא כבר יושב בכלא והוא בעצם
00:18:19gives this week his
00:18:22הזה יש משלחת שנפגשת איתו אחר כך
00:18:25מצויץ בחשבונות שלו ברשתות
00:18:27החברתיותו
00:18:30of the process. Yes, there is
00:18:33says, this is the beginning of a process
00:18:37like the establishment of the republic. He means the Turkish
00:18:41to adopt a negative approach. What
00:18:45is important is that everyone takes responsibility for the success
00:18:48Ocalan gives his seal of approval to this process, it gives
00:18:52a significant incentive to those
00:18:55very loyal to this man, even though for many years he has not been
00:18:58in the field, but operates from the Turkish prison. Right, we will wait
00:19:01ונחה ונראה האם באמת אתה יודע זה יצחוק, זה יצחוק את
00:19:05ה מה שנקרא את הלוחמים. באמת
00:19:07להסגיר את עצמם, אבל אנחנו רוצים גם לגעת בסוריה, כי תשמע, כי
00:19:11זה גם משהו שמשלים, היינו השבוע ביקור היסטורי, לא
00:19:15פחות, נשיא החבל הקורדי, ניצרוואן,
00:19:18Barzani. I hope I pronounced his name correctly. He visited Damascus.
00:19:22The Kurdistan flag. We see him alongside Syrian President Ahmed
00:19:25al-Shara. A visit that we really
00:19:28And the big story is, of course,
00:19:32מדברים על הpkק בטורקיה, הכוחות הקרודים בסוריה שעדיין לא
00:19:35ממש התמזגו לצבא.
00:19:41So everything is connected to everything because Erdogan, or rather Erdogan's Turkey, is trying to reshape the Kurdish space. It is also doing this
00:19:45in Syria. This week we see Nechirvan Barzani,
00:19:49מנהיג החבל הקורדי בעיראק מגיע לדם עסק נפגש
00:19:52with Ahmed al-Shara. This is the first
00:19:55of Assad's regime, that we see the Kurdistan flag being raised
00:19:59in such a way in the office of the Syrian President. This is truly an extraordinary
00:20:02thing. The goal is to talk to this man who will try to activate
00:20:06on the Kurdish
00:20:09forces operating
00:20:12simple: this man enjoys
00:20:16parts of the Kurdish region,
00:20:19סוריה של השרה, וגם עם ההנהגה הטורקית, כלומר הוא
00:20:23יכול להיות מתווך בסיפור הזה, למרות שמדובר בקורדי,
00:20:27והניסיון הוא למעשה לעצב כאן מחדש את המרחב, כי
00:20:30בעצם אותן, אותם כוחות קורדים שפועלים
00:20:34בסוריה, הם יושבים באזור הגבול הדרומי של טורקיה.
00:20:37ארדואן ותורקיה, חלקם לפחות אלה פעילי טרור בדיוק
00:20:41כמו ה-PKK בזמנו בטורקיה, ולכן הניסיון כאן הוא
00:20:44למעשה להוריד מהשולחן את כל הסיפור של האוטונומיות הקורדיות
00:20:48באזור של טורקיה. וזה דרמטי מאוד, זה מה שארדואן מנסה
00:20:52לעשות עכשיו בין השאר עם החוק הזה, ועם ההגעה
00:20:55של אותו מנהיג החבל הקורדי לשיחות עם השערה מד המסק.
00:20:59בקיצור זהבי נסכם תנועת מלכיים טורקית
00:21:02סורית שהקורדים בתוכה. יואב זהבי,
00:21:05תודה רבה לך על הדיווח החשוב
00:21:07Thank you, Kissak. We
00:21:11יוצאים עכשיו להפסקה קצרה, אתם תישארו איתנו, אחריה, נהיה
00:21:15בשיחה מיוחד מקעיר עם הסופר המצרי שריף אל הספורי בספר
00:21:18שלו שעורר.
00:21:21And we will also get into the mind of Khamenei,
00:21:25איפה הוא בדרך, בשכונה שלנו, מיד
00:21:28חוזרים,
00:21:38With all my heart, with all my heart, we are going to have
00:21:41a blast of
00:21:42an evening.
00:21:47La la la la la la la la. My
00:21:50husband and I had a pothos in the bedroom. It died.
00:21:53I'm not picky, I lost two nieces
00:21:57in the Holocaust, give me
00:22:00fine.
00:22:03this week after
00:22:06the news, on Kan 11 and on Kan
00:22:09Box. That's how it all started,
00:22:13four in the morning, can't sleep, I'm dying
00:22:15of heat.
00:22:17I'm not even close.
00:22:41In many things you had confidence in the end, except for the testosterone of
00:22:44Don't approach me, don't
00:22:48talk to me.
00:23:20I'm tense, why tense? In crunch
00:23:23טעים.
00:23:31Hi, I'm the new Light Belgian Plus, stylish and advanced,
00:23:35משפצים, קליל בלגי פלוס. ווסטינג האוס,
00:23:38an American ceiling fan
00:23:42This is not '76, you can't say whatever you
00:23:46think. 338 in the cinema.
00:23:52Anise kitchens coming soon
00:23:56הבית הישראלי ומעצבים ראיתים לחיים עצמם. שומרת הזורה,
00:23:59the Israeli love story. In Prigat there are levels of pampering.
00:24:03At the highest level there is a feeling
00:24:06pay, man. This is not just
00:24:09Farm. Sliced
00:24:11מוצרילה.
00:24:14With active rear steering system in all
00:24:16הגרסאות.
00:24:20That it was forbidden to talk about Khamenei,
00:24:23enemies, Saturday night on Kan 11 and Kan
00:24:26He was Netanyahu's confidant,
00:24:30and now he reveals
00:24:33everything. Power corrupts, survival and personal
00:24:36האישית לפני טובת המדינה. יואב בורביץ
00:24:40plans how Gadi
00:24:43You thought so?
00:24:45No, it took me two seconds to tell him
00:24:49yes.
00:25:20after our broadcast,
00:25:24בעונה, על השנה האחרונה בחייו של אלי חמינאי, שהיה המנהיג
00:25:28העליון של איראן במשך יותר משלושה אסורים, מחוסל
00:25:31assassinated in the opening blow of "The Lion's Roar" in February
00:25:35שעבר.
00:25:37Your decision to allow missiles
00:25:41completely changes
00:25:45הביטחון של מדינת ישראל, כי
00:25:47ההבנה של היכולת. להגן על מדינת
00:25:51ישראל, על שמי מדינת ישראל בפני איום כזה, לאורך
00:25:54limited. It is at a level
00:25:57שצריך להשוות אותה לנשק בלתי
00:26:00קונבנציונלי, איום קיומי על מדינת.
00:26:18The sky will not
00:26:18יפלו.
00:26:28Many books will be written about this
00:26:30להגיב ביר. ישיר מאיראן, פעם הראשונה שיש
00:26:34שבירת התפיסה שלא מסכנים את איראן, אף פעם לא
00:26:38מסכנים את איראן, זה הייתה דירקטיבה מאוד ברורה שלו כל הזמן, בשביל זה עשינו
00:26:42את הפרוקסי, בשביל זה אנחנו משקיעים מיליארדים בפרוקסי, שם הוא עשה את
00:26:45And we say hello to Professor
00:26:49Amatzia Baram from the Department of Middle East Studies at the University of Haifa. Alan
00:26:53Amatzia,
00:26:55Yes, Roy,
00:26:59Alhamdullah
00:27:02Anbakir. What in your opinion is Khamenei's
00:27:06fatal mistake?
00:27:11The mistake is not Khamenei's, the mistake is ours
00:27:14and America's. Khamenei started negotiations,
00:27:18he started negotiations, and Khamenei would have
00:27:21reached a solution that both he and the Americans, and even
00:27:25we, could live with. And then we killed him. I think
00:27:29it was a tragic mistake. Meaning, you say that
00:28:09He coined a phrase whose importance is immense
00:28:13in the history of the Islamic Revolution
00:28:17The slogan
00:28:19was whispered as "heroic flexibility",
00:28:22meaning, we must
00:28:25הירואית גמישות של גבורה גם לגלות גמישות אתה
00:28:29courage to show flexibility,
00:28:31and on... What is it? He signed
00:28:35I would say, it's clear to me that he would have signed
00:28:39הסכם חדש עם האדון טראמפ,
00:28:42but fine, you know what, you don't have the patience
00:28:45to wait, so attack
00:28:48and why? Because we knew,
00:28:52everyone who studied Iran knew that this leader was
00:28:55the most pragmatic person
00:28:59נשיא, הוא דעג לבחירה של נשיא, וזה שקיין.
00:29:02replaced an extremist president, and this is a very
00:29:06pragmatic government, a very
00:29:10a pragmatic speaker of parliament or president of
00:29:13extremely pragmatic. With them he
00:29:16was, he started from the time you throw me, you throw
00:29:20me, you throw me back to his right hand man, because in the end, the one
00:29:23who replaced him was his son Mojtaba
00:29:27Khamenei, and I ask myself, the one
00:29:30who replaced him was the Revolutionary Guards, no, but I... Okay, but I ask myself,
00:29:33is what we are seeing now in Iran actually a policy of
00:29:37change or a continuation of what we saw
00:29:39from Khamenei?
00:29:42Change, unequivocal change, dramatic change. First of all,
00:29:46we knew that Mojtaba, everyone knew that Mojtaba
00:29:49Khamenei was the man
00:29:53describe him as their puppet, not a puppet, he was one of them. Yes, they are much
00:29:57waited
00:30:00for the death of Ali Khamenei.
00:30:03The Supreme Leader, and then they would have enthroned
00:30:07We had no interest in accelerating
00:30:10that they are much more
00:30:13saying that the Revolutionary Guards
00:30:17who are commonly said to be suicide bombers
00:30:20כאילה למות עצם זה ניצחון קישכוש בקושקש, הם רוצים
00:30:24לחיות, יש להם כוח, יש להם עוצמה, יש להם כסף, יש להם
00:30:27כבוד, יש להם הכל, הם לא רוצים להפסיד את זה, אבל הם הרבה
00:30:31יותר קיצוניים מאשר. המנהיג העליון, הוא לא היה מרשה
00:30:34would not have allowed them to attack neighboring
00:30:38ערביות שכינות בשום אופן, הוא היה מחפש פתרון דיפלומטי
00:30:41שאפשר לחיות איתו, והיה קורא לזה גמישות הירואית, כמו
00:30:45שהוא עשה במקרה של 2015, הסכם
00:30:47הגראין, אנו מגיעים למצב שבעצם
00:30:51חיסלנו את האיש היחידי שיכול
00:30:53להגיד להגיע במשא ומתן דיפלומטי להסדר שכולם יכולים
00:30:57to live with him, the Iranians too, Professor Amzia Baram,
00:31:00Haifa University, always enlightening. Always, thank you
00:31:04very much, I'm glad, thank
00:31:08you, and now to this, despite
00:31:11the long-standing peace agreement with Israel, in Egypt of
00:31:152026, it is not easy to publish a book that criticizes not only
00:31:18Israel, but also the Palestinian side. Such is the new
00:31:22book by the Egyptian writer, Sherif Al- Asfoury, "The Flood of Fools" which is published
00:31:25in Egypt. After the publication of the book with the explosive topic, Al-
00:31:29Asfoury recently resigned from the Egyptian Writers' Association, protesting
00:31:33that it harms, according to him, the good name of Egyptian writers
00:31:37and Egyptian culture, and he joins us from Cairo
00:31:40for a special interview, the Egyptian writer Sherif Al-Asfoury, Alan
00:31:44Bak Ustaz Sherif.
00:32:15In general, and how
00:32:17there is a belief, perhaps from a cultural
00:32:21heritage, that war
00:32:23alone brings good
00:32:26results. The attack of October 7,
00:32:292023
00:32:34the Palestinian people.
00:32:37I think that solving
00:32:41the underlying, fundamental problems
00:32:45will not come
00:32:47through violence
00:32:49and war.
00:32:52Sherif, what were the reactions to the book in Egypt, especially
00:32:56in the general atmosphere and public
00:32:59opinion after the events of October 7, where positions in Egypt towards
00:33:03Israel became more negative?
00:33:06Of course,
00:33:08the title is shocking to the general
00:33:12public and to the political class. I faced
00:33:16severe problems
00:33:18in obtaining official
00:33:22approvals. I had to delete
00:33:25the maps because there are problems in,
00:33:28let me
00:33:31summarize the matter and say that publishing
00:33:34in Egypt on these topics—I published 13 titles
00:33:38before that—but publishing on political topics
00:33:41is very difficult
00:33:45and subject to a single
00:33:49the book, who represents it among the Egyptian
00:33:52public? Of course, there are
00:33:55voices with the same approach and who think
00:33:59like I do,
00:34:02but the penalties are very severe. Penalties start
00:34:06from neglect, moving to
00:34:09being marginalized, then to
00:34:13boycott and attack.
00:34:16And legal procedures, prosecution, trials,
00:34:20and so on.
00:34:22I believe that the true role of a writer
00:34:25is to lead, to lead free
00:34:29thought, a free
00:34:31thinker, and he must
00:34:33first follow his conscience, not submit to authority or
00:34:37to the wide public.
00:34:40This is the first time I've had an interview with a scientific media outlet.
00:35:40who this week became the first woman to the rank equivalent of Brigadier General, the highest
00:35:44rank. A woman in Turkish history, she was appointed
00:35:47by the Supreme Military Council, and her appointment
00:35:50was confirmed by Turkish President, Recep Tayyip
00:35:53Erdoğan. Turkey's new general, she was a teacher in a school,
00:35:57accepted in her youth to medical studies, a letter she
00:36:01received from the Air Force Academy made her change her mind
00:36:04and enlist in its service. She completed pilot training and since then served
00:36:08in various roles. She is married with one child,
00:36:12according to at least what was published in the Turkish media. Now,
00:36:15the integration of women into the Turkish army is not exactly a new
00:36:18thing, even within the Air Force, Sabiha
00:36:21Gökçen, the adopted daughter of Ataturk, was a pilot,
00:36:25the first Turkish female pilot. The first female combat pilot not only
00:36:29in Turkey, but in the world. It remains to ask who she bombed,
00:36:32and the answer is the Kurds, citizens of Turkey, those who rebelled against the government in
00:42:06in Ceuta, the nearby Spanish enclave, attracted the entire
00:42:09neighborhood. There are those who spread conspiracy theories, but in Morocco and the Arab
00:42:13world, those who point to the situation in which so many
00:42:16Moroccans tried to cross at all costs. The harsh conditions
00:42:20suffered by millions of Moroccans, unemployment, the great disparities
00:42:23in society, are the ones that pushed tens of thousands to try
00:42:26to escape to the paradise of labor. In Yemen,
00:42:30the Houthi rebels feel that they have cracked the
00:42:33code. Saudi Arabia, the kingdom of wealth with an "ayin" and happiness
00:42:36with an "alif", it is difficult to extract from all its ports. It is certain
00:42:40that this will continue, but in the meantime, as long as Saudi Arabia does not change its disc,
00:42:44the Houthi rebels will continue to impose their equation, siege
00:42:47for siege. And what about the emissaries to the head of the octopus?
00:42:50In Iran, the regime currently does not seem to be at a point of weakness, it
00:42:54tries to project strength outwardly and also inwardly.
00:42:57But what the regime does present as strength,
00:43:01its opponents see as weakness, when the regime has no
00:43:04real way to improve the lives of its citizens and solve daily problems,
00:43:08and therefore, instead, it publishes
00:43:10its opponents at a rate of three decades.
00:43:13And finally, even in the Saudi press, they ask the same question
00:43:17that we all face. You, the news viewer, and
00:43:20also us, who work in this profession, how much can it be when the news on
00:43:24the screen gets harder and harder? Sometimes even we
00:43:27want to turn off the screen. I admit I'm now tainted
00:43:31by this. Sometimes jokes come at a price.
00:43:34The Syrian, Hussam Al-Ahmed, filmed a video
00:43:38outside the Syrian embassy in Beirut.
00:43:52Damn your soul, we're coming for you! Without my shoes, you wouldn't get paid!
00:43:56If it weren't for me, no one would give you money, no one would give you money! I paid you over 300
00:43:59dollars! If the passport doesn't come out,
00:44:05your house for this dirty treatment, you bastards!
00:44:08He is one of the greatest Egyptian
00:44:40and Arab singers, almost after 50 years
00:44:43after that, they will say that he ate from the three
00:44:46greats of Arab singing at all, in the same line as
00:44:49Umm Kulthum. We say hello in this context to Nasrin Abughosh,
00:44:53presenter of Maqam
00:44:56channel. Hello Roi, so
00:45:00look, the legendary Egyptian singer Abdel Halim Hafez
00:45:03passed away 50 years ago, but these days he
00:45:06is stirring a great controversy in Egypt. Inside
00:45:12his
00:45:12house,
00:45:19which has become a museum recently, or since he passed away, anyone who comes to visit the
00:45:26house, and we see the picture of a Kuwaiti
00:45:29tourist who felt too much at home, as
00:45:32they say. He really took, he felt
00:45:36really at home, that's exactly the right phrase, it just cost him.
00:45:40And it also cost all the critics and also
00:45:42those who had already booked their visiting
00:45:46cards in advance. Abdel Halim's family took it very, very
00:45:50hard. They claimed that this
00:45:53picture of the Kuwaiti tourist
00:45:57devalued the music, the historical value of
00:46:00the singer, who is considered the most respected singer
00:46:04and actor in the Arab world and even
00:46:07disrespected his personal belongings.
00:46:13To such an extent that they closed Abdel Halim's
00:46:16house, which is located in an expensive neighborhood
00:46:20in Zamalek, right, Zamalek in Cairo. Not only that, they
00:46:24also took another step, closed all the house's
00:46:27pages on social media platforms, and also
00:46:31the page through which one could book specifically. But what really
00:46:35happened there? Maybe we'll hear it
00:46:39from the tourist himself.
00:46:48Open time, and we are with you. The escort is with you, and you can touch and photograph.
00:46:52You sit and do what you want, and we make the same poses for you as Abdel Halim, and his pictures
00:46:56and memories, and you live the moment. Even the picture that
00:46:59was spread, in which he photographed me while I was sitting with my phone, he taught me. He told me, "Hold the phone, boss,
00:47:03smile, one, two, three." He photographed me. Wow.
00:47:07So it was a spontaneous picture, out of love for this great artist, may God have mercy on him. I considered
00:47:10it normal, because at the same time, I saw many pictures of young visitors
00:47:14in Abdel Halim's apartment, sitting on his bed, holding
00:47:16their phones.
00:47:19As they say, it depends on who you ask, because he actually
00:47:23says, the organizers, the people in the museum told me it's okay for me to be like
00:47:26that, they even took his picture. Yes, and he even tried to
00:47:29recreate an iconic picture, so you know, now,
00:47:33just one last sentence about this, that after
00:47:37all this commotion, all the critics and all
00:47:40the Egyptian public are already saying that this
00:47:43house should be under state management, to turn
00:47:46it into a museum, that all, all
00:47:49the visitors and anyone who wants to visit the music
00:47:53teacher that Abdel Halim Hafez left behind, which is truly
00:47:56possible. Yes, let's just say that now, following
00:47:59this incident, it's a bit harder to visit the museum. You have to call in advance
00:48:03and not, as they say, just book. Well, and in the meantime, it's also
00:48:07not available. The family decided they're closing it until further notice. Let's move
00:48:10to Jordan because there's also a very interesting
00:48:14and unusual story about an Imam, a Jordanian
00:48:17Imam who became a woman and is married to two
00:48:19women. A story from Jordan,
00:48:22and also the social networks. So yes,
00:48:26it's about an Imam, a former mosque Imam,
00:48:2947 years old, his name is
00:48:32Ahmed, married to two women, Roi, married to two women, father
00:48:36of six children. He says that yes, he acted
00:48:39very normally throughout his life, because he
00:48:43was afraid that, because in a conservative,
00:48:47religious society, he would be rejected
00:48:49if he were to declare that he has a different
00:48:53tendency or that he feels he is in a body
00:48:57that does not really suit him. What happened
00:49:00was that a medical team accompanied
00:49:03him and he received psychological help and even
00:49:06treatments that could help
00:49:10him. Exactly, he decided in 2017
00:49:14to travel to Thailand to change his gender
00:49:18and became a woman from a man, from Ahmed to Aisha.
00:49:33His request was granted, but that's not the end of the
00:49:36story. Right, the state's ulama
00:49:40filed an appeal, and this appeal referred
00:49:43it to a medical team. Let's hear
00:49:46part of the medical answer, what
00:49:49really happened there?
00:49:52shocked, and the judiciary found itself facing one of the most daring
00:49:56and difficult cases. The court requested the opinion of medicine,
00:49:59and the report settled the story with the chromosomes
00:50:02of the claimant Ahmed or Aisha. His chromosomal
00:50:05makeup came out as XY 46, which is
00:50:09definitely the male chromosomal makeup. The case has been
00:50:13completely settled. In the eyes of the judiciary, he is
00:50:17Ahmed, not Aisha. What happened outside the country is not a correction of a congenital
00:50:20defect; this is a criminal act.
00:50:30The story of gender change in the Arab world, because it
00:50:34has become perhaps more accepted, but still, religiously, there is
00:50:38a very significant problem apropos this story.
00:50:41Right, and apropos we are talking about an Imam who knows
00:50:45very well the religious and social
00:50:48process and the magnitude of the problem that arose around it.
00:50:56In the Arab world, especially in Jordan, let's emphasize
00:50:59that in Jordan there is no law that allows
00:51:02for gender change. There is no such law
00:51:05in Jordan, and the story of Ahmed, or
00:51:08Aisha, is a specific story that they got involved
00:51:12in, but regarding the issue of the LGBT community, since
00:51:151951,
00:51:17there has been a law that regulates that if two people who are
00:51:21adults of the same gender want to
00:51:25be in a relationship, there is no legal impediment. But
00:51:28yes, and it should be noted that the law does not allow
00:51:32for same-sex marriage. Interesting.
00:51:36That is, they do allow, they don't allow. A very
00:51:40difficult, shaking,
00:51:42and very problematic issue in Arab society and the Arab world,
00:51:46between Abdel Halim Hafez, the Egyptian singer
00:51:49in his home, and indeed the Imam who changed
00:51:53his gender to a woman in Jordan. Thank you very much for these beautiful
00:51:57words.
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