Israel: Kan 11 — - 2

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הבימאית ענת גורן יוצאת למסע אישי, משעשע ופוקח עיניים על גיל המעבר. בפרק השני היא יוצאת לחקור סופית אם מה שלא הורג אותנו מחשל אותנו. הורמונים עושים סרטן? או שלא? או שאולי? הצילו. התשובות בפרק. כ' עב'.

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00:00:05Because they are quite similar to women, very similar, why very
00:00:08similar? The hormonal cycle in a woman is 28 days
00:00:12on average, 14 days estrogen, 14 days estrogen
00:00:15progesterone, exactly like that, yes, only it's not
00:00:1828 but 16, because quite offensively, a sheep is
00:00:21the closest thing to a woman you can get, what's the state of their
00:00:25brain? What is small no? Not too
00:00:28sophisticated, not so sophisticated. It seems, you
00:00:31see this comparison to a sheep is infuriating. A woman is just a more
00:00:35complex animal, so there are many compensations and mechanisms, how she immediately
00:00:39gets offended, why, why offended? Look how cute she is, no, I
00:00:43get offended for them. My colleague Copernic's approach to estrogen
00:00:46and hormones received reinforcement 30 years ago when he was
00:00:50a young doctor at Soroka. So that's how it all started? Yes, I had
00:00:54a friend who worked in a sheep laboratory in Cincinnati, who studied
00:00:56pregnancies. And he told me: Listen, there's someone here
00:01:00who studies hormones, maybe you want to come too? The study was
00:01:04to examine the effect of certain substances on blood flow
00:01:07in an estrogen-deficient
00:01:09sheep. They perform surgery, remove their ovaries, and then
00:01:13it's a menopausal sheep. As if, if you inject
00:01:16estrogen, the blood flow would go from 4cc
00:01:20per minute, 4cc per minute
00:01:24to 160, 400% change. You give
00:01:27her this hormonal spray, it brings it back. Even more
00:01:30than before, common sense says it's the same for women, that if women
00:01:34are given hormones during menopause, it's good for their heart as well. Regarding the heart, things are
00:01:38clear and absolute, every study you see shows heart
00:01:41protection, if started early and if the right group is chosen. That
00:01:45is, you need to learn a bit when to give and to whom to give, and if you are a sheep, then even better, if
00:01:49you are a sheep, you are happy. They take
00:01:52estrogen and check what happens to the bone, and what happened was an immediate,
00:01:55sudden deterioration
00:01:58in bone quality.
00:02:01I performed vaginal examinations with a speculum, you can see the cervix there and all that, you performed
00:02:04vaginal examinations it behaves the
00:02:07same as in a woman, the same really, yes, so maybe we can
00:02:11release some sheep for you why is all this burden on us, I
00:02:15found yes, girls, help out.
00:02:30Estrogen use for women in menopause began in the
00:02:331940s, along with
00:02:35electroshocks. Women in menopause become
00:02:38egocentric, it was written then in medical literature, self-pitying, demanding and struggle
00:02:42to perform their
00:02:44duties.
00:02:46In 1966, American gynecologist Robert
00:02:50Wilson published the bestseller "Feminine Forever" which encouraged
00:02:53estrogen use. "The change of a nice and energetic woman
00:02:57in a few years to a pathetic creature. A sharp
00:03:00tongue, is one of the most pathetic sights of
00:03:03humanity," said that trash gynecologist. "The suffering is not only
00:03:06hers, it sweeps away her family, her friends at work,
00:03:10the grocers in her neighborhood. She becomes a focus of bitterness
00:03:13and dissatisfaction." So said Wilson in the book that was
00:03:17our mothers' bible, "A woman's body is the key
00:03:21to her destiny. Her achievements depend on one thing only,
00:03:24the ability to attract a suitable man and hold onto him for
00:03:27years." But her vagina might be flaccid, sensitive to pain
00:03:31and inflexible. She won't be able to meet the demands of marriage
00:03:35and fulfill a woman's duties. In contrast, a woman rich
00:03:38in estrogen is capable of sexual response, generous and more
00:03:42satisfying. The book depicted us, us,
00:03:45as withered, shrunken, dull-minded and lacking
00:03:48sexuality. No woman can be sure to be spared
00:03:52from the terror of this living decay. In contrast,
00:03:55a man remains a man until the end. I would have given him
00:03:58one, two. Afterwards, it was revealed that the manufacturer of the
00:04:02popular drug Premarin, which contained estrogen, paid him
00:04:05secretly. Meanwhile, he became a hit, and doctors all over the world
00:04:09distributed hormones to women like candies. Your period stopped? Go
00:04:12for it. So for decades women celebrated on
00:04:16hormones, until in 2002 a study was published that turned
00:04:19everything around, the 91st by gynecologists and family
00:04:23doctors. A new study presents a clear link between taking
00:04:26hormones and breast cancer. It is possible that.
00:04:38are these drugs? how many more women will get let's say breast cancer because they're taking these
00:04:41drugs? you for looking a a drugs effects
00:04:45in a clinical trial uh such as we did, you express
00:04:49the change in percentage terms, so for example we got a
00:04:5226% increase in breast cancer, and that's
00:04:56a large increase uh in a trial, and that's why we stopped the
00:04:59trial. In addition to increased breast cancer risks, HRT
00:05:03has also been shown to raise the risk for heart attack, stroke, lung cancer
00:05:06and other health problems. This has been a shock to people, uh,
00:05:10the our findings. Copernic's sheep, which are not
00:05:14particularly smart, but will help us understand what the hell this
00:05:18study said. In the 90s, the WHI (Women's
00:05:21Health Initiative) was conducted in the United States, the largest
00:05:25study on hormones ever done. The study included
00:05:2816,000 women, half of whom received hormonal treatment of
00:05:31estrogen and progesterone and half received a placebo. Five
00:05:35years later, in the group that took hormones, there was a 26%
00:05:38increase in breast cancer cases, an increase
00:05:42of 29% in heart disease, an increase of 40%
00:05:46in stroke cases, twice the rate of pulmonary embolism and other
00:05:49horrors. The study was immediately stopped, and doctors suddenly
00:05:53stopped prescribing hormones. Are you looking for Sklar? Yes, she's here
00:05:56in this room, in the room.
00:05:59Hello, hello, hello, private popper, private
00:06:03popper, yes, that's you, yes,
00:06:06yes, how do you say private popper in Hebrew? Professor
00:06:10Miris Sklar, I went straight. Here we
00:06:21see that when there are no hormones, the breast tissue
00:06:30is quiet, there is no activity and cell division,
00:06:33quietly, except for the tumor, nothing is
00:06:36stained, okay, so I'll show you a woman with hormones now, so this woman is
00:06:3978 years old. Now this woman
00:06:43years and no one checks her and after age 74 she is not checked and then she
00:06:47appears with a lump in her right breast and then they open her
00:06:50MRI examination, all this white staining where there is a lot
00:06:53of cell division, we know it's proliferating tissue
00:06:57and it's proliferating because of the hormones, completely because of hormones
00:07:01causes the proliferation of this thing I don't know which of these cells
00:07:04will divide and turn into a tumor because they're all working now but they don't
00:07:08need to be working at age 78 and then
00:07:10the result is one tumor. one we saw but there's another one and another
00:07:14one and another one and another one and another one and another
00:07:17one and another one and another one okay all
00:07:21this and also this it's all a tumor okay something like
00:07:2410 centimeters wow we know that the longer
00:07:27the duration of hormone use, beyond
00:07:30five or 10 years, the risk of breast cancer increases
00:07:33and this is an example, let's talk about 30 years of hormones, the hormones
00:07:37given 30 years ago are the hormones given today because
00:07:41today there really is. It's more customized, right? Right, right,
00:07:45along with that, I'll show you, for example, this is a nice
00:07:48woman at 51,
00:07:51and she's been on hormones for five years, the new types, and what we see
00:07:55in the MRI, she has a lot of small staining foci,
00:07:59and this is a tumor on biopsy, and now she will stop the hormonal treatment,
00:08:03everything will be quiet, so what, is it better
00:08:05to have ovaries, no, what are you talking about, what
00:08:08are you talking about? If I look at this, then they
00:08:12are, for example. And suddenly here, groups of cells
00:08:15will start multiplying, not all of them will turn into a tumor,
00:08:18but small groups of cells cells, one of them might
00:08:21go wrong, like and unfortunately
00:08:25become a tumor, yes, but it can
00:08:29go wrong even without hormones, but if a woman's
00:08:32period has stopped and she no longer has estrogen, then there isn't much cell
00:08:36activity, it's quiet, there will be no more quiet for us. On
00:08:40one hand, Sklar, who sees difficult cases all day.
00:08:44And on the other hand, Kopernik, who thinks that the breast is not so bad, sees
00:08:48the woman with all her complaints, and talks about the benefit of hormones
00:08:51for her general health in the long term, her heart health
00:08:55and quality of life. The WHI created
00:08:57a culture of fear, and we all know it, sitting
00:09:01in the clinic, oh, hormones cause cancer, oh, hormones cause heart disease.
00:09:05Today there are already studies that show how good hormones are in preventing
00:09:08future diseases in the brain, heart, and skeleton, for example.
00:09:12What happens when there is no treatment, and these 23 years
00:09:16will show, and there are many studies that will show the results of this. A generation
00:09:20of women suffered and women got sick and women
00:09:24had a decline in performance at work and a decline in various
00:09:27functions because they didn't take hormones. Just before I
00:09:30drown myself in hormones, I return to Copernic in my
00:09:34suit of threats. Are you really worried? I am worried. Of course
00:09:37I am worried. That is, all the months we
00:09:40talked, I couldn't get you to. First
00:09:43of all, I am Hungarian, it's built-in, there are things you can't
00:09:47fix, and besides, if I catch some small breast
00:09:50cancer, Copernic, do you know where you live? Look, there's a chance, there's a chance
00:09:54for everyone to catch this disease, and therefore you are under surveillance, but if you take
00:09:58the total, what is a woman's risk of getting
00:10:01breast cancer, it is either very low or
00:10:05not even, if the treatment is taken correctly, and the combination you are taking
00:10:08according to the studies we know about today, it is not a combination that. But
00:10:16it does not increase the risk
00:10:18of transition to
00:10:22cancerous cells, that's what we know about it, meaning if you know. The problem
00:10:25is progesterone, not estrogen. The progesterones we
00:10:28give today do not increase the risk. Sklar
00:10:31saw a breast infected
00:10:34with cancer and she told me: Here is a woman who takes progesterone
00:10:38of the new type. So it's possible
00:10:40she had breast cancer without hormones. Right. Right.
00:10:44We know today that it takes about nine years to take a normal healthy
00:10:47cell and turn it into a cancerous cell. That means if
00:10:51a woman took treatment and after six months or so
00:10:55got sick, it's not because of the treatment, it was there
00:10:58before.
00:11:01I can't stand like this, what's wrong with you? Oh, here he
00:11:05comes. Meanwhile, not only to Copernic's sheep, but also
00:11:08to the mares on Noah's family farm, a real contribution to
00:11:11menopause. You understand that I
00:11:15swallow pregnant horse pee every
00:11:18morning. Estrogen is mainly the female hormone. They
00:11:22have a lot of estrogen like pregnant women. You have no
00:11:26benefit at all, nothing, not even in your urine is there any benefit.
00:11:30A short lesson on hormones, estrogen, which is produced from horse
00:11:33urine or sweet potato, is very nice for the whole body, except
00:11:37for the uterus. There it increases the risk of endometrial
00:11:40cancer. So to protect the uterus, you need to take
00:11:43progesterone along with estrogen.
00:11:46Progesterone, although it protects the uterus, is less nice
00:11:50for the breast. It slightly increases the risk of breast cancer.
00:11:54What do you do with... this? You do routine follow-ups and adjust
00:11:57the treatment according to the risk factors, if any. I am
00:12:01under increased breast surveillance due to family history. In the follow-up
00:12:05two months ago there was a finding
00:12:08that required sampling. The sample was not
00:12:11normal. Surgical removal was recommended. In short,
00:12:15I went through all this saga.
00:12:17And... there are also benign tumors. This is my
00:12:21concern, and they respond to estrogen. What to do? Cysts can also
00:12:24grow. From estrogen, the breast is tissue that has estrogen receptors,
00:12:28what to do and for progesterone? How many years
00:12:31have you been taking hormones? Barely three years?
00:12:34And no, so you don't, like, before you go to
00:12:37sleep, say to yourself, what have I done to myself? Who needed to start all this? Not
00:12:41for a moment, no? Not that you might have increased,
00:12:44even slightly, your risk of breast cancer? Not for a moment did
00:12:48I think, what have I done to myself? No,
00:12:51I need a good quality of life, I need to be focused.
00:13:02In energies and sharpness in the brain and in a good
00:13:05mood as much as possible, and I will take what is necessary but through
00:13:09risk management and proper follow-ups.
00:13:12I did everything like a soldier, I calmed one of the components
00:13:15and stayed with one, so I wouldn't have progesterone at all, not even the friendly
00:13:19friendly and friendly, like without. So why would a woman who doesn't
00:13:22have, why actually every woman?
00:13:32So I will explain that the same preparation that I
00:13:36take is in a low dose, many times it's not enough
00:13:38and we need to adjust the treatment also according to the intensity
00:13:42of the symptoms, it's possible that if I had severe hot flashes at night, it would be
00:13:46a small problem for them, so
00:13:50it's not suitable for everyone. Mom, do you remember what kind of
00:13:53cancer you have? Okay,
00:14:03alright, you did a test, I think they sent me and you
00:14:06didn't do it. No, it seems
00:14:08I did.
00:14:11It's work to go to all these doctors. Meanwhile, to
00:14:14Dr. Chobev's clinic more and more women are flowing in,
00:14:18all of them know how to mumble in their sleep, assuming
00:14:21they manage to sleep, of course, that hormones cause cancer.
00:14:26Rotem,
00:14:28so you're 47, divorced with five
00:14:31children. Respect, respect.
00:14:35Suddenly there's some outbreak
00:14:38that I'm just looking from the side and saying, who
00:14:40is that? It's something disproportionate
00:14:43completely. The rationale for treating perimenopause, which you
00:14:47haven't even reached yet, is suffering, it's
00:14:50symptoms. All the irregular cycles, we're not hysterical
00:14:54about giving back. Hormones, giving back hormones, because you still have your
00:14:57own hormones, so you won't give her anything, nothing at all, wait,
00:15:01calm down, Avraham's conversation or a black line, can balance
00:15:04the symptoms, and if it starts to get messed up, you start
00:15:08to feel that this monster is spreading over more
00:15:11days, or I don't know what, then we will recalculate
00:15:15the course. What, what do you say about estrogen treatment for someone who has
00:15:19breast cancer in the family
00:15:22or? It's not a contraindication.
00:15:25And even there we have many solutions, we are not those who indiscriminately burden
00:15:28everyone, take hormones in water from age 50,
00:15:31everyone and the same type of nation, not at all,
00:15:35Julia, hello, Hi.
00:15:38Nice to meet you. Julia is a breast cancer survivor and a carrier
00:15:42of BRCA. She is scheduled to undergo prophylactic surgery for ovarian
00:15:45removal. After the surgery, she will immediately enter
00:15:49menopause in terms of symptoms, and as long as she has a uterus, she is
00:15:52prevented from receiving hormones. What are you afraid of?
00:15:55Julia? Of this? More than this,
00:15:59that I will wake up fat and old
00:16:02and with fragile bones. It causes
00:16:05an extreme drop in all. Boom between one stroke of
00:16:09the knife, it drops to zero. In your case, hormonal treatment
00:16:13in all global guidelines it is written in black and white not
00:16:16to give, not to give, this is a contraindication. The question
00:16:20is whether to keep the uterus or to extend the surgery
00:16:24and remove the uterus along with the ovaries,
00:16:26and then we can treat with estrogen only.
00:16:30Estrogen only does not increase the risk
00:16:33of cancer, it even reduces it. This means that for
00:16:37a better quality of life after the surgery, yes, I need to
00:16:41remove, to excise healthy organs,
00:17:00not yet convinced that I want to take hormones, I, I know
00:17:04what cancer is, because we have, because I have a history.
00:17:08And I am connected to the
00:17:10alternative place, you tried acupuncture for sleep? Yes, and I also
00:17:13received a healing concoction
00:17:17specifically formulated for me and also a mushroom
00:17:20formula. How much did it help? It slightly improved sleep for hot
00:17:24flashes it didn't help at all, not harmful but
00:17:28not necessarily helpful either. Who meanwhile profits from our
00:17:31primal and clear fear of cancer is the
00:17:34alternative industry that flourishes like mushrooms after
00:17:37the rain. It's time to get natural
00:17:40and completely simple tools to get your body back on track,
00:17:44I don't know what hormonal change to attribute it to that I'm coming
00:17:47on Friday morning to an alternative conference on food
00:17:51supplements and brain fog, maybe brain drain,
00:17:54but I'm here. This amazing pelvic floor
00:17:57that sits in the center of our body,
00:18:01is actually the source of everything, in terms of the changes in
00:18:04menopause we see a decrease in blood flow to the
00:18:08pelvis, a decrease in vaginal lubrication, everything that can
00:18:12prolapse through the vaginal opening prolapses, bladder,
00:18:15urethra, uterus, rectum,
00:18:18recurrent bladder infections, hemorrhoids,
00:18:21constipation, fissures, bleeding
00:18:24on defecation, the vagina becomes sad, it looks sad, it looks thin, it
00:18:28looks fragile, it looks dry, it looks
00:18:31closed, it feels gaping, oh my
00:18:50fan of nutritional supplements who, thanks to her sage
00:18:53seeds, even remembers everything she
00:18:55takes.
00:18:59Where's your list? Maca root, maca
00:19:01root. Omega 3, Omega
00:19:053, B12. Now, not
00:19:13the vitamin
00:19:20E, that's oil you put on your face, so don't shut up, I want all of it. So wait, I'm telling you all this, how do I swallow in a glass a spoonful of
00:19:23seeds with half a teaspoon of cinnamon
00:19:27cinnamon powder, but organic, not the supermarket
00:19:30kind, and with that I swallow all the blah blah. There's
00:19:33vitamin D that you take before bed, apparently it supports sleep or take.
00:19:40Or take it and go out in the sun, there are many options, options. I don't have time, it's not,
00:19:44sleep, I work at it, I'm not interested in working at it, I don't
00:19:48work at it, it's three minutes to swallow the pills, religiously, okay, if
00:19:52you think it works, what do you say about magnesium? It helps more
00:19:55for sleep for those with sleep problems, you have sleep problems, and it helps
00:19:59you, it doesn't help me, no, you take something that doesn't help, who
00:20:02suffers, but really who suffers, you suffer, I want
00:20:06the hormones, you're not anymore. Natural, natural, you tried,
00:20:10you didn't try, what are you taking? Nothing, what are you
00:20:13taking? Whatever there is? What is there?
00:20:16What?
00:20:21I'm finding a point here, you feel it, right? It's a dull
00:20:25sensation like that. That's all. That's it, yes,
00:20:28that's it. Integrative medicine is regulating medicine. That's what it knows
00:20:31how to do. It knows how to help the body, to remind
00:20:35it that everything is okay. That it's possible.
00:20:39Does anything in the treatment you are doing
00:20:43create any hormonal substitute for the estrogen
00:20:46that is missing at this age? Who are they, wait.
00:20:50Oh my god, who, who said estrogen is missing?
00:20:54Menopause is a new invention? I don't
00:20:57think so. Women have always had
00:21:01menopause. Menopause is a biological
00:21:04stage in women's lives, spontaneous,
00:21:08natural, not lacking estrogen. You need
00:21:12to learn to regulate, to live life with much less
00:21:15estrogen, what's the big deal? The complaints in society that aging is
00:21:19terrible. Right. Right? A society that sanctifies
00:21:22youth is a dysfunctional society at its core. They are trying to sell us
00:21:26that hormonal treatment is an elixir
00:21:29for youth. It is not
00:22:31wait, I really, really like accept my age, I like, I also love, your
00:22:35age, look, 61, not yet,
00:22:38in September, but wait a second, but there's something
00:22:42about this belly that bothers me, a bit of a snoop,
00:22:45someone please take her from here, right, because there's no one it
00:22:49doesn't affect. And it's yes, the thing that
00:22:52bothers everyone, even more than hot flashes, more than sleep, more than libido and more than vaginal
00:22:56dryness. What do you say? When our estrogen decreases,
00:23:00there is relatively more testosterone to estrogen, and then there is a shift
00:23:03to the belly. Usually, abdominal fat is a red light
00:23:07for inflammatory fat that causes an increase in all chronic
00:23:09diseases. It is the dangerous one, it is the one that increases our risk
00:23:13for diabetes, high blood pressure, cholesterol, heart disease. But if
00:23:16you measure here at the waist at the narrowest point and then measure
00:23:20the widest area at the hips, and then do this divided
00:23:24by that, the ratio should be in a woman less than 0.85 and in a
00:23:41ratio, I go to a nutrition and sports expert, he
00:23:45will make me miserable again, what is this, these are
00:23:47two-dimensional women.
00:23:55She trains every day, she trains every day, she trains every day, it's part of her ritual. How
00:23:59do you get to a state where exercise is not the devil? To the understanding that I
00:24:03and five-kilo weights are from now until eternity. Connect
00:24:06to the feeling afterwards, do you feel better after a workout? No, I
00:24:10have no moment of enjoyment. There are people who are truly genetically proven
00:24:14to lack the gene that allows them to enjoy exertion. No
00:24:18endorphins, no enjoyment, nothing.
00:24:35pass at least 30 seconds. To honor.
00:24:39We're at 20. You're almost 50.
00:24:42And dying. Excellent. Can I go down? You can continue?
00:24:4665. Good.
00:24:53So for you, I wouldn't go crazy with a lot of heavy
00:24:57strength training. It's very good for bones and many other things, but not for
00:25:00weight. It's not to tell all the people here that you need
00:25:04strength training. No, it's not a trend. Come on, now menopause, what do you do in menopause?
00:25:08Strength training, training begins, proteins, what do you
00:25:11need? They talk about metabolism decreasing with age
00:25:15and that's like the reason for weight gain,
00:25:17ostensibly. Not true. What is the reason women gain
00:25:20weight? Decrease in estrogen, women are more tired, sleep less well, are less
00:25:24energetic, burn fewer calories and consume more.
00:25:28A concrete question, how many steps do you take per week? Do you
00:25:30know?
00:25:33That's the thing. If you don't have 60 thousand steps a week, that's a weight loss
00:25:37follow-up. How many hours a night do you
00:25:39sleep?
00:25:41Seven? That's not enough anymore, that's a weight loss follow-up.
00:25:44They took athletes with excellent fat percentages,
00:25:47young, and reduced their sleep. From seven-something hours to five hours
00:25:51in two weeks, they became pre-diabetic, pre-
00:25:54diabetes, extreme sugar levels, that's what
00:25:57lack of sleep does. The most important thing, and researchers will say, is sleep, because that's where
00:26:01the reset happens. It doesn't have to be perfect, but understand where the bugs
00:26:05are and don't ignore them.
00:26:0767%
00:26:10of people over the age of 45
00:26:13are at a BMI over 25.
00:26:16Did you hear that right? If you had called me here 20 years ago, I would have said, tell me,
00:26:20count calories, do a little more sport, weigh yourself. But
00:26:24today we know that metabolic rules change. When there is
00:26:27a sharp drop in estrogen levels in the body, when we have hormonal
00:26:31changes, changes in body composition. Everything related to hunger and satiety, we
00:26:35have an increase in insulin resistance, an increase
00:26:38in fat storage, sleep disturbances, fatigue, the entire
00:26:42system essentially gets messed up, estrogen affects
00:26:45all the hormones that are important to us, whether it's melatonin, whether it's
00:26:49leptin, whether it's ghrelin, cortisol, every time I'm
00:26:52like amazed how important estrogen is. When we were young
00:26:56fat concentrated in the pelvic area, buttocks
00:26:59and breasts so we could give our blows? I don't
00:27:03breastfeed them from the butt. Very true, but it's fat that can
00:27:07be easily broken down and converted into breast milk
00:27:10if. This body is smart, it's a startup.
00:27:14My body is especially smart apparently. Now what?
00:27:18Approaching menopause, fat begins to migrate, it begins to migrate
00:27:22to the central area. For abdominal obesity, what you need is
00:27:25to reduce the amount of carbohydrates in a meal. So we
00:27:29need to give more fat, almonds, walnuts.
00:27:34All vegetables and fruits that have a strong red
00:27:37black color affect the brain for memory
00:27:40improvement, dealing with brain fog and also affect mood.
00:27:44Have you ever heard of Maca extract? It's a root we want
00:27:48to give for concentration, for mood swings
00:27:52and for sexual arousal. What
00:27:55is all this in one
00:27:56root?
00:28:00In celery stalks and leaves.
00:28:02There's a substance that in the body
00:28:06helps produce testosterone and there's fennel here which is great
00:28:10hormonally, what does it do? It helps the body
00:28:13regulate estrogen levels. Look how
00:28:16amazing, amazing, chocolate is an aphrodisiac
00:28:18substance like Aphrodite arouses
00:28:21arouses okay arouses I want to be
00:28:25sexual I want to have desire I have someone
00:28:28to do this good so we can start
00:28:31doing it.
00:29:02So small, now my new experience,
00:29:06well, it's hydrogen, hydrogen,
00:29:09yes, who
00:29:47Alice in Wonderland, the Lion's Mane, look, enough,
00:29:50this is the mushroom, this is the mushroom
00:29:53that helps with concentration and focus
00:29:56and improves memory and works on
00:29:59restoration and renewal of nerve cells. This
00:30:09mushroom
00:30:10is given
00:30:14to many people, specifically when I give it to women of a certain age, it works
00:30:59sweet on the side, do you trust this guy? I trust him. Yes,
00:31:03she gives it to our patients, are these things
00:31:05that have been researched?
00:31:45This humidity is actually, we want to simulate
00:31:49the forest, making sure they have high humidity and also
00:31:53a lot of oxygen. Mushrooms are something from a completely
00:32:11make, all of this, yes.
00:32:16Okay, yes, I'll take
00:32:18less,
00:32:33medicine, what happens with complementary medicine, did not
00:32:35show
00:32:38significant improvement, for example, acupuncture, studies were done, and it turns out
00:32:41that the effect of acupuncture is not so
00:32:45different from the effect of placebo acupuncture in terms of symptoms of
00:32:48menopause, and therefore acupuncture today, acupuncture today doesn't work,
00:32:52but if acupuncture reduces stress, and then
00:32:56if she also takes some hormone therapy and some proper diet and physical
00:32:59activity, it builds her health at this age, what about plants,
00:33:02what about black cohosh, so that's it, so it was found maybe that it helps a little, no one
00:33:06knows if it's the placebo part, because there are really no good studies on
00:33:10this, let's assume it helps, it only helps with hot flashes and maybe a little with mood,
00:33:13we're talking about the heart, the brain, the skin,
00:33:17sex, the devil, all these systems, that even
00:33:20the most enthusiastic promoter of complementary
00:33:24medicine, does not say that it helps, meaning, if you
00:33:27madam, take complementary treatment,
00:33:31you miss out on the benefits. What does research say about
00:33:34mushrooms? There is hope from research on mushrooms, there are
00:33:38studies on this now, that maybe it helps,
00:33:41maybe, maybe, what about supplements, vitamins?
00:33:45The only supplements I can recommend that have really
00:33:48been researched are magnesium. We know
00:33:50that B-12 needs to be checked because low B-12 causes
00:33:53fairly identical symptoms, we know that it's advisable to take calcium
00:33:57to build bone. The rest of the supplements, creatine and all
00:34:00kinds of omega, you'll have to find someone else to give
00:34:03you.
00:34:05I don't believe in that. Look, all the pursuit,
00:34:09the search for complementary medicine was because of.
00:34:13Hormones are dangerous. 90% don't want to hear about it
00:34:17anymore, so when you read the research, you understood
00:34:20that there's something here. The next morning, in those
00:34:24days, half a year after Copernicus, it was still red hot from this story.
00:34:27He walks like this in his green clothes, and behind him,
00:34:31various female interns and students are following. I don't believe
00:34:35what they did, what they did, I don't understand. They were 64
00:34:39years old. Do you understand that they were 64
00:34:41years old? What is this research? They put
00:34:45the black box like cigarettes, estrogen, wherever it is,
00:34:48it's dangerous, and when a woman takes
00:34:52the leaflet and sees stroke, heart
00:34:56attack, ovarian cancer, breast cancer, she folds
00:34:59the leaflet, puts it in, into the drawer, does not
00:35:03touch it, puts almond oil,
00:35:06hopes for the best, and indeed a few years later, the researchers
00:35:10themselves publish a public apology for the fact that the research was not
00:35:13conducted and not interpreted. Correct, they stated that the hormone composition
00:35:17given was outdated, it was only one type,
00:35:20and that the average age of the women studied was 63, an age
00:35:24when chronic diseases develop with or without
00:35:27hormones, and in general even the alarming WHI
00:35:30study found that among women who take
00:35:33hormones for a period of five years, there will be fewer
00:35:37deaths from all causes. Sorry, we did not
00:35:40intend to, we just wanted to say not to start late,
00:35:43heart attacks at a young age. Don't happen, on the contrary, they decrease, we did not
00:35:47mean that this
00:35:49would declare, put a black X on hormone therapy
00:35:53for all generations, for all women, of all ages,
00:35:56for all preparations, and as if to reduce it to the dungeons for three
00:36:00generations, that's not what we meant at all to happen, as if
00:36:03the train left, so what really happened there in 2002?
00:36:07Remember that elegant WHI researcher who appeared immediately
00:36:11after the dramatic research in the media? media?
00:36:27translate that into what is the risk to an individual
00:36:30woman in any year, then
00:36:33it's something like a 1/10 of
00:36:371% increase in risk for breast
00:36:40cancer in a year compared to women who are not
00:36:43taking the drug, so it really is quite a small increase,
00:36:47you like big numbers it in exact terms it
00:36:51was eight additional cases of breast cancer per
00:36:5410,00 women treated in one year.
00:37:30From there, the media worldwide was already celebrating without understanding the
00:37:34true meaning. 25 years since,
00:37:37doctors don't prescribe, researchers don't research, and women worldwide
00:37:40are afraid of hormones, all because of some media
00:38:28Not that women don't feel healthier, the reason for this is
00:38:32the hormonal activity of the ovaries. The ovaries stop at age 50,
00:38:36fantastic, we came and appreciated life,
00:38:39so let's just take advantage of the ovaries
00:38:42and maintain health. Can you explain to me why this pure logic
00:38:46doesn't work? It's a lack of
00:38:49knowledge and a lack of updates on existing
00:38:52research. It's true that hormone replacement therapy can have
00:38:56side effects. But when you look at the bottom line, women
00:39:00who take hormones are healthier, live longer.
00:39:03Should we give hormone therapy to a woman after breast cancer? You won't
00:39:06find anywhere a recommendation
00:39:09that says, even consider it. We already heard today that almost no one
00:39:12dies from breast cancer today, everyone recovers, over
00:39:1590%, it's found early, but what's the price?
00:39:19If a woman has her ovaries removed, and they tell her,
00:39:22listen, don't take hormone therapy, it's dangerous, not dangerous,
00:39:25and the article is right in front of her eyes.
00:39:42If we don't fear the words breast cancer and estrogen, maybe we can find parameters that allow
00:39:46hormone therapy to be given safely to women recovering
00:39:49from breast cancer to ease their
00:39:52lives. There is a lot of optimism but still every year
00:39:56women die in Israel.
00:41:07the first Copernican revolution 500 years ago wasn't
00:41:11easy. Copernicus discovered that the Earth
00:41:14revolves around the Sun. The Church was shocked and only years
00:41:17later did they understand he was right. Our Copernicus also revolves like
00:41:21the Earth for decades now, he preaches awareness
00:41:24and hormone therapy. Oncologists, surgeons. Sometimes
00:41:27even family doctors are shocked and don't budge
00:41:31an inch. I'm going back to Party Poopers Claire to try
00:41:34to soften her staunch opposition and am surprised to realize
00:41:37that even she isn't really opposed to hormones for a period
00:41:41of up to 10 years from the cessation of menstruation and no later
00:41:45than age 60, in what is called the window
00:41:47of opportunity. Also, women who decide to take it, so we're talking about age 50
00:41:51to 59 or 10 years from the beginning
00:41:53of this, that's fine with you, yes, yes, yes,
00:41:57but again, that it also be limited, so you're basically saying, take
00:42:01hormones in the window of opportunity but check exactly,
00:42:04check, no, no, not just a manual check,
00:42:07for a very limited period. Okay, now let's add that at an older
00:42:11age, estrogen is what protects
00:42:15the bone, and statistically, if we die from something, it won't be
00:42:18from breast cancer but from a hip fracture. 30% of those
00:42:21who break their hip in old age will already be resting
00:42:24in the grave. One out of three women will suffer during her
00:42:27life from fractures. We are talking mainly about fractures in the spinal
00:42:31vertebrae, in the hip joint and in the wrist. The 18
00:42:35after a hip fracture in Israel
00:42:39is around 30.
00:42:42This is a disease that kills, and I
00:42:44ask myself as a woman, what can
00:42:47I do? Estrogen? It is also proven to improve our
00:42:51bone quality, showing a significant decrease
00:42:54in fractures in general, and especially in osteoporotic
00:42:58fractures, and reduces the incidence of hip
00:43:01neck fractures by 34%. We have something
00:43:04to do, we have The disguised thieves in Eilat,
00:43:06to give.
00:46:14to meet you. So you're 50, married with three
00:46:18children. An artist, right. Smoking,
00:46:21a pack, a pack a day. Since what age?
00:46:2516. Wow, so six months ago, you started
00:46:29having these symptoms? Yes, but they started with full force. And suddenly I reach
00:46:32this age, I'm 50, and I'm
00:46:35actually, I feel like I'm at the age of wisdom. I have no problem taking hormones,
00:46:39I have no problem with that. I'm also ready to feel it because I feel like I've entered
00:46:42an age where my body is changing, but my wisdom
00:46:46is sharpening. I believe that we are entering the feminine
00:46:49era. I'm not.
00:46:52price
00:46:55I feel like I'm changing shape
00:46:59and I'm willing to pay this
00:47:00to be more
00:47:04wise, it's not interesting, the approach is not interesting,
00:47:08it should be combined, you need to get the information
00:47:11about what it means. Hot flashes, night
00:47:15sweats, it's not good, it's not good for you, hot
00:47:18flashes are toxic to the brain.
00:47:23The height and weight are as stated, BMI above
00:47:2540, there is an orientation to healthy nutrition, emphasis on
00:47:29proteins, emphasis on carbohydrates, no physical
00:47:54right now is weight. BMI above 30, increases risk of venous
00:47:58thrombosis. Of course I'll try to tailor hormones for you, but understand that this is
00:48:02the very tip of the iceberg. Once this
00:48:05is resolved, settled, improved, then boom,
00:48:08boom, boom, boom, all the other dominoes will fall into place.
00:48:12Heavy smoking increases my risk of venous thrombosis.
00:48:16Oral estrogen also adds risk. Also heavy smoking, just
00:48:20so you know, it affects the metabolism of the estrogen that's still
00:48:23in your body, clearing it too quickly through the liver, so that further
00:48:37very afraid of hormones, because of what happened with her mother, and it's an understandable
00:48:41fear, that her mother, died before her
00:48:44eyes. I have to show you the perspective of
00:48:48the risks. If you follow a thousand women,
00:48:51aged 50 to 50'. Five years later, after five years,
00:48:5423 will have breast cancer because it's very common in the population, right? If
00:48:58those women take combined hormone therapy with
00:49:01progesterone, say, there will be an additional four women
00:49:05to those 23 at the end of
00:49:07those five years, it's not a big deal at all.
00:49:10It's
00:49:12a risk. Wait, not just that. If you drink more than two drinks
00:49:16a day, that's another five cases. If you smoke, another
00:49:20three cases. Note two things. If you
00:49:23walk for two and a half hours in the fields of Ramat
00:49:27Yishai per week, see how much that reduces your
00:49:30risk. Seven cases per thousand. If your BMI is above
00:49:3330, look what you saw, what do you
00:49:37see? 24 additional
00:49:39cases, additional, six times the risk
00:49:43of sticky things. This is the risk of breast cancer.
00:50:07is not true. One out of every
00:50:09three women will develop heart disease and die from it during her lifetime.
00:50:12Menopause has many aspects, but in terms of the heart and blood vessels,
00:50:16it causes the acceleration of atherosclerosis, of clogged arteries, and these
00:50:20are mainly what lead the blood vessels to the brain and will cause
00:50:24strokes, and those that lead the blood vessels to the heart and will cause
00:50:27heart attacks. Estrogen is considered a hormone that protects the blood
00:50:31vessels and the heart. For any woman who comes and has no risk factors and is
00:50:34suffering, give her, tell her, please, take it,
00:50:38you have no risk, you can enjoy it, but not as motivation
00:50:41to reduce heart disease, for that, sport,
00:50:44nutrition, treating high blood pressure, treating diabetes, that reduces
00:50:47morbidity. There is a concept of a treatment window here, if we want
00:50:51to give treatment that will protect the heart, start early, it
00:50:54helps, reduces the risk, reduces it by a lot,
00:50:5830, 40% risk of developing heart disease and blood vessels, heart
00:51:02attacks. Start late, it does not reduce. If you start early,
00:51:05then you will enjoy systemic benefits,
00:51:08benefits to organs, heart health, brain, bones, and so on. Start
00:51:12early. All the research says, hormones are good,
00:51:16there's no research that says it's
00:51:18not good, it's very good, it's the most
00:51:22essential part of a woman's identity. Now it's also
00:51:25an opportunity. Because once you're falling and you start to become aware
00:51:29of aging, then suddenly you're doing things, you go to the gym. Men don't
00:51:32go to the gym
00:51:54The fact that I'm sitting right in the window of opportunity is quite
00:51:57reassuring. I'm very far from age 60 and within 10
00:52:01years of the end of my period, so there's no problem with taking hormones. But I will.
00:52:13After all, a woman's assertiveness at the age
00:52:16of menopause was not created by
00:52:18the devil.
00:52:22It causes cancer, there is no for or against here, there is
00:52:26knowledge versus myths, I don't think we need to raise awareness, awareness
00:52:29exists, sorry, if you don't know what a sticker is then it doesn't
00:52:33exist.
00:53:09In "Night News" the murder of Eldar Dean after the discovery of the body
00:53:12this morning, the first call to the police is revealed.
00:53:15The not-so-surprising past of the family, the disguise of thefts
00:53:19in Eilat and also stingy or thrifty? Listen
00:53:23carefully, can you do groceries for two weeks
00:53:26for only 280 shekels? Some claim
00:53:30it's possible. Night News, we're starting
00:55:06Good evening everyone, this is Night News. Today, two IDF soldiers who fell yesterday in the bomb explosion in Lebanon
00:55:10were laid to rest. Our military correspondent, Itay
00:55:14Blumenthal, will be with us shortly with the conclusions of the investigation into this tragedy
00:55:17and its implications for the continuation of the war. Three
00:55:20weeks after he disappeared, the body of Eldar Dean was released today.
00:55:24Our Hadas Greenberg will be here with us with details about the investigation
00:55:27and also how the first report to the police sounded
00:55:31after the murder. Remember the family.
00:55:35it turns out that this is really
00:55:39not the first case. Eliran arrives equipped with a large
00:55:43black bag, he takes down a PlayStation 5
00:55:46device from the top shelf, and seconds later he's already
00:55:49in the bag. Itzik Zohar will bring us the latest
00:55:53on this family, this time from a different place, from Hadera.
00:55:57And if you feel that things are a bit expensive at the supermarket, maybe, maybe,
00:56:01maybe, we found a solution for you. We rely on
00:56:04raw materials. And not on ready-made products, for example, I won't buy pizza now, I'll buy
00:56:08flour, yellow semolina, things like that, things that I can use for several dishes I'll prepare,
00:56:12it's also healthy, and it's yes, it's also economical,
00:56:15and very, very varied meals.
00:56:17280 shekels for groceries for two weeks,
00:56:21how, how, how,
00:56:24we ask, Shir Hashem Tov, will be here, came to the studio to try
00:57:22two paratroopers who fell in Lebanon, were laid to rest
00:57:25today. The IDF planned a broad response to this severe incident
00:57:28in southern Lebanon, but Itai Blumenthal, you're telling us that the United States
00:57:32blocked the Israeli response, Itai,
00:57:36hello Yair, correct, the IDF continues to investigate the severe incident yesterday
00:57:39in the village of Majdal Zoun in southern Lebanon, an incident in which
00:57:43reserve Major Erel Birkenstock and Staff Sergeant
00:57:46Tamir Waknin fell, may their memory be a blessing. And yesterday the
00:57:50IDF determined unequivocally that the two fell
00:57:53due to Hezbollah's violation of the ceasefire.
00:57:56We saw yesterday attacks by.
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