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00:00:01the monitoring stations to understand what is happening. At the same time, I discovered
00:00:04this morning that last Wednesday, there was already an exceedance of
00:00:0769% in the
00:00:10gasoline levels
00:00:13in the area. No one reported it, no one said it. The school continued to operate
00:00:16as usual until yesterday. Yesterday they had an activity
00:00:19day, a field day, they were in the yard,
00:00:22and that's what our children breathed. It sounds like an insult to their
00:00:26lives, guys, it's outrageous, no less.
00:00:30From a place.
00:00:33I think it's time to move the school from there. I don't
00:00:37see fireworks coming out of here. Unfortunately, I have little
00:00:40faith. But at least the school. Meital, thank
00:00:44you very much. Thank you very much.
00:00:47We are now going out for a minute-long commercial, and after that, we will continue
00:00:51with all the updates from the disaster on the annual trip to the
00:00:54stream center.
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00:02:11Hello again, we are here, continuing our special broadcast following
00:02:15the disaster on the annual trip to the northern border. A student
00:02:18was killed by a cluster bomb explosion that apparently
00:02:21came from Hezbollah. 23
00:02:24injured were evacuated to hospitals. Soon we will have
00:02:27updates from the scene of the incident. At the scene of the
00:02:30heavy disaster and also from the hospital where the injured are being evacuated, they are starting
00:02:34to tell what happened there. But we want to open with the testimony of
00:02:37Tamir, one of the first people who arrived at the scene. This is how he sounded
00:02:41a short time ago. What did they touch? What happened? They didn't say, something
00:02:45probably exploded. I didn't even ask. I saw that there were many
00:02:48casualties, we started doing CPR on one of the children
00:02:52there, and I started
00:02:54doing lettuce with cucumbers
00:02:58on the on the on the rabbi. And on two
00:03:00children
00:03:02and on
00:03:05oh, on several teenagers who were there. So
00:03:08we are with you Orly El Keli at Rambam Hospital and Ruby Amar Sheleg at the scene. Let's start
00:03:12with you Ruby, what is happening there now after the students
00:03:15who were only emotionally affected by this
00:03:19incident were evacuated.
00:03:21Yes, Maya, let's get things straight for a moment. This is an incident that happened three hours ago,
00:03:25about 300-500 meters behind me, a group of
00:03:29students from a school.
00:03:44from Hezbollah, which apparently one of the students picked up
00:03:47on his way in the field. As a result of the explosion, 24
00:03:51teenagers, about 14 years old, were injured. One of them,
00:03:54apparently the one who held that item of ammunition, was killed. Three more
00:03:57were seriously injured, ten were moderately injured. And ten others
00:04:01lightly. The injured were evacuated with the help of Magen David Adom and Air
00:04:05Force helicopters and ambulances of various rescue agencies to hospitals
00:04:08in the north, Rambam, Ziv
00:04:11and Nahariya. And from an initial examination, as mentioned, it is an item
00:04:15of ammunition that was left here in the field. We are talking about an open area, a lot
00:04:18of vegetation in this area. It is impossible to clear every
00:04:22such spot in the field in the end. We heard the commissioner say here
00:04:26a short while ago, that he will recommend not...
00:04:30to hold trips in such places. It is really impossible
00:04:33to close this, it is a very big problem. But what, I want to show you the
00:04:37sign that KKL people put up a few weeks ago here
00:04:40behind me,
00:04:45yes, yes, these signs are located in several places in the Ramim ridge,
00:04:49and these are actually signs that prohibit, not
00:04:52that KKL can really prohibit, it's more of a recommendation, they prohibit
00:04:56entry to these areas precisely for this reason. The situation
00:05:02of the Ministry of Education that approves every trip, it allowed to hold
00:05:06this trip here behind us. I assume we will hear many more
00:05:09versions and many more arguments and attempts. To shift
00:05:12responsibility or blame from one side to another,
00:05:16but you can understand the very confusing messages, and this is an open
00:05:19site, not something that can be closed, a very
00:05:23beautiful site, a scenic route, and I want Yuval to take the camera aside for a moment,
00:05:27just so you can understand, look at the vegetation here, the
00:05:29greenery, someone who moves aside for a moment
00:05:33to relieve himself or to hike or anything else or
00:05:36cultivates in the area, cannot really avoid
00:05:40stepping on something that might be hidden in the vegetation. Throughout the war,
00:05:44we reported many times about falls in open areas. This is the meaning. These
00:05:48are the open areas. It is impossible to clean and clear every
00:05:51single corner. But Ruby, again, I return to this documentation that you are bringing us
00:05:55right behind you. We see this sign that you say was placed
00:05:59there only a few weeks ago. And here, an annual
00:06:02trip is approved on this route and in this tweet. The Ministry of Education receives approval
00:06:06for this event. And there is a very big question here, why should
00:06:10one warn against unexploded ordnance and on the other hand approve such
00:06:13a trip?
00:06:16You know? This characterizes so many things in the State of Israel. I want to take
00:06:19you back three weeks to the ambu crisis
00:06:23in the Kinneret. Even there, there is no authority that comes and says
00:06:26one decisive thing. So it's exactly the same thing. There is
00:06:30disorder, and I assume that because there is a very,
00:06:33very heavy price here that cost human lives. Young teenagers. So we
00:06:37will hear accusations and versions and 11
00:06:40attempts by every such body and every such
00:06:44person to cover themselves and shift responsibility, but the bottom
00:06:47line is a dead child
00:06:51and 24 other injured children, with a sign
00:06:54behind them that actually recommends or prohibits
00:06:58hiking and entering this area, and on the other hand, the Ministry of Education
00:07:01that says go out and hike throughout Israel. We will wait to hear from the Minister of Education
00:07:05in the coming hour. Thank you very much, Ruby. Orly Halacha, you are already bringing us
00:07:09testimonies of the young children who were injured and are receiving
00:07:14treatment at the hospital. Yes, that's right, so just a short while ago,
00:07:18you said we'll start with the Minister of Education, the Minister of Education announces, as of tomorrow, no
00:07:21trips to the North. We heard the commander say, we are with
00:07:25the army, we will consider, I will assume, here the Minister of Education is issuing
00:07:29a statement, as of tomorrow, no trips to the North, in light of what
00:07:32Ruby showed, the sign that was present on the hiking
00:07:36trail. So here at the hospital, Rambam, right at
00:07:39this moment, the teacher in his 60s
00:07:43is in the operating room. His condition is defined as serious. A total of three
00:07:46seriously injured people, the teacher and two other students, so one here at
00:07:50Rambam Hospital in Haifa in the operating room. At Galilee Hospital
00:07:53in Nahariya, a seriously injured teenager about 14 years old, and at Ziv
00:07:57Hospital in Safed, a seriously injured teenager about
00:08:0014 years old. Here at the hospital, three more teenagers,
00:08:03about 14 years old, are injured in moderate and light condition. One
00:08:07of them tells the medical teams here, I don't know what
00:08:10happened, I just heard an explosion. That's how he describes it, I heard
00:08:14an explosion, I was thrown backward, we all fell on
00:08:17each other, and then I saw that I had blood on my legs and blood on my hands
00:08:21and we all started screaming and crying, we didn't
00:08:24understand where it came from and where this explosion came from. That's what he describes
00:08:28to the medical teams. The injuries are from blast and shrapnel
00:08:31injuries. They have already been moved to the departments. There are family
00:08:35members here, and teaching staff from the school
00:08:38also came to support the families, the social
00:08:41workers who are at the Galilee Hospital in Nahariya.
00:08:44Five more injured people are hospitalized, one
00:08:48as mentioned is in serious condition and the rest are in moderate and light condition. And at
00:08:52Ziv Hospital, one is in serious condition, also brought there by helicopter
00:08:55yes, and the rest are in moderate and light condition. All
00:08:58of them with the same blast
00:09:01and shrapnel injuries. It is still unclear which of them will still
00:09:05need surgery to remove the shrapnel, but
00:09:08currently they are all in the departments and have undergone an initial
00:09:12assessment and it is likely that in the coming hours we will see more
00:09:15of the injured arriving at the operating rooms. The first, of course, are
00:09:19the seriously injured and as we said, the one killed
00:09:23in this terrible explosion of the cluster bomb, this
00:09:26unexploded ordnance that is so
00:09:29terrible, at least that's what's happening here at Rambam Hospital. We
00:09:33are waiting for someone from the families to arrive, there is a very, very big
00:09:36pressure, especially on the seriously injured. We saw that family
00:09:40members came asking to be near the operating room. They are asking us
00:09:43now to leave them alone until they can
00:09:46calm down, until the tension subsides. They have already met
00:09:50with their family members, so we are here and we will bring the voices
00:09:53from here, of course, and everything, of course, as soon as there are announcements
00:09:57regarding the condition of the injured and the families can also
00:10:00make themselves available to talk to us. Orly, thank you very much.
00:10:03Roy Sharon, we continue to receive more and more details about
00:10:07this incident. Again, the IDF officially confirms, yes, it was a bomb that Hezbollah
00:10:10apparently fired and landed in an open area, as we used to say, yes,
00:10:14this was also the more likely scenario, because unexploded bombs from
00:10:18the IDF, the IDF usually knows about such bombs, a launch that
00:10:21failed, ordnance that fell, no matter who fired it, they can identify it.
00:10:26They usually know, and then they send bomb disposal experts there. Therefore,
00:10:29since this unexploded ordnance was not known because the trajectory is clear, it was more likely
00:10:33to assume that it was a bomb fired by Hezbollah. We didn't know how to say
00:10:36whether it was a fragmentation bomb or other ammunition, but here the IDF says it was
00:10:40a cluster bomb. What is the problem with these bombs? They are very
00:10:43small and they don't always look like an Iranian missile
00:10:46that fell in Israeli territory and has the shape of a missile and you can see
00:10:50it, and it's also easier to beware of it. These bombs,
00:10:53a cluster bomb, are many, many bombs that a missile releases
00:10:57when it falls or when it approaches the ground, what we are seeing now
00:11:00on the screen, it's small, it doesn't look like
00:11:03it's part of a missile, it doesn't look like something that can cause a lot of
00:11:07damage, and therefore it's possible that when people see it or hikers, there might even
00:11:11be someone who tries to pick it up to understand what it is, maybe it's some device
00:11:14that was forgotten, it's very possible that this was also the situation this time, yes, that's what
00:11:18most likely happened. Of course, you should not
00:11:21touch it and again we will say it, do not touch
00:11:25unidentified metal objects of this kind when you
00:11:28are walking around Israel. But
00:11:32it's not something
00:11:34that you immediately see and say, okay, there's a fragmentation
00:11:38grenade here, there's an Iranian missile here, there's an unexploded
00:11:42bomb here. It looks like something
00:11:45related to a battlefield but you can't necessarily
00:11:48know that it's a bomb and most likely that's what happened.
00:11:52A student picked it up, collected it. It looked like some
00:11:56souvenir, he put it in his bag, or wanted to take a picture with it,
00:11:59and then it caused an explosion. There's about a kilo of explosives
00:12:03there, and when it's standard explosives,
00:12:06it causes a deadly result. We want to go back to Rambam Hospital
00:12:10for a moment, Orly Kalit is bringing us an update
00:12:13from one of the senior doctors treating
00:12:15the injured, right, we are with Dr. Hani
00:12:19Bachus, head of the trauma room at Rambam Hospital in Haifa.
00:12:23Dr. Bachus, hello, good evening.
00:12:25You have already seen the injured after an initial assessment and one
00:12:29of them is already in the operating room, right? That's right, during the evening
00:12:33we received four injured people from the incident that happened in the North.
00:12:37We received three teenagers
00:12:39and one adult injured. They received initial treatment and then
00:12:43underwent examinations, mainly CT
00:12:47scans for diagnosis. None of the injured are
00:12:50in life-threatening condition. One of the injured is currently in the room.
00:12:57The three teenagers were admitted for continued observation at the
00:13:01hospital. One of them is under observation in pediatric
00:13:05intensive care. What can you tell us when you ask them
00:13:08that you were the first people they met after the first rescuers?
00:13:12What does one of the teenagers tell you? We don't get into
00:13:15questions beyond medical questions. The main
00:13:19questions are those related
00:13:22to the medical aspect in order to understand and assess the... situation, and that's what
00:13:26we did. It was clear that their injuries were shrapnel
00:13:30injuries in many body parts, and therefore
00:13:34they underwent several CT scans in order
00:13:37to locate any injuries that we needed
00:13:40to intervene and treat. And when you examine the injured, do you immediately understand what
00:13:44it is? The hospital here received so many soldiers
00:13:48who were injured in exactly the same way during
00:13:50the war. Is it immediately clear to you what it is? Ah,
00:13:54it's clear immediately. We also receive
00:13:58information before the injured arrive.
00:14:01When we also examine them upon their admission, we can
00:14:05indeed assess the main mechanism
00:14:08of injury, and it was clear that the injury was a shrapnel injury
00:14:11and we treated the injuries in this
00:14:14way. Thank you very much. Thank you too and good
00:14:17evening. So yes, this is Dr. Hani Bahur
00:14:21who says that none of them are in life-threatening condition. One of them is already
00:14:25in the operating room. That's the teacher of the field trip, 60
00:14:27years old. His injury was more complex. His condition is defined
00:14:31as serious. He is in the operating room.
00:14:34And the three teenagers are already in the departments, with one of them
00:14:37in pediatric intensive care, but as mentioned, their lives are not
00:14:40in danger. Orly, thank you very much, and again we see in the last
00:14:43hour, a chronicle of a disaster, you could call it that. They are starting
00:14:47to shift the blame from one body to another. The Ministry of Education
00:14:51that approved this trip. We saw the warning from KKL just a moment ago. On
00:14:55the screen, the police commissioner arrives, says, we are here to draw
00:14:58lessons with the IDF and the Ministry of Education, and we are here
00:15:02to ensure that such trips do not take place. We also don't know yet
00:15:06where annual trips will be canceled, whether it's just in the North or later,
00:15:09but yes, even the Minister of Education refers to the matters
00:15:13and says not to enter into conspiracies too quickly,
00:15:15to use only verified information, because currently there are indeed many
00:15:19question marks. Right, he is supposed to give the declaration
00:15:22in about an hour at the hospital there and refers to all
00:15:25the claims made against him. Meanwhile, he issues a rather concise statement, he writes that it is
00:15:29a difficult incident and so on, and then says: I ask to act responsibly, to avoid
00:15:33disseminating unverified information while the details of the incident are still being clarified, meaning
00:15:36mainly recommending. To be careful. If you are saying, we will see
00:15:40a ping-pong of shifting responsibility in this case too. Usually in the State of
00:15:43Israel, what happens is this,
00:15:45but then I say yes, but I don't know,
00:15:49Roy, immediately after they finish the Fly Dubai
00:15:52investigation, we will also get the conclusions about this disaster.
00:15:56We will now take a short break. Of course, we will continue
00:15:59to update all the time about the disaster in the North, but among other things,
00:16:03we will have the following topics: Will the hacking of Yonatan
00:16:06Urich's phone be investigated? How does the Likud campaign
00:16:09look when the same thing happened to Gantz? The daily war
00:16:13on Israeli roads where a person was attacked and waited an hour for the police to arrive. What
00:16:17did he do? And also the demand from the police to investigate who leaked the testimony
00:16:20and information about Mali and Liel Yaalomi. Two minutes and we will, of course,
00:16:23continue with all the updates
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00:18:59Thank you for joining us. We talked a lot in recent weeks about the damage
00:19:03caused by the Gaza film, but that is probably nothing compared to the footage
00:19:06published on.
00:19:43Natan, how much can such footage change public
00:19:47opinion, how much impact does
00:19:49this program have?
00:19:5260 Minutes is the flagship news program of
00:19:55CBS. Lesley Stahl, one of the most
00:19:59respected documentary reporters in the United States, but
00:20:03we also need to put an asterisk here. This is television
00:20:05that is broadcast,
00:20:07from back in the day. It's not that young masses sit
00:20:11at night to watch 60 Minutes. It has a lot of
00:20:15value and it has a lot of importance for this program. It's not that it spreads
00:20:18like wildfire or really influences. And we also need to remember this
00:20:22specific issue of settler violence against
00:20:26Palestinians in the West Bank is not a new issue in American
00:20:29or global media at all. Even in Israel, by the way, they are already covering it,
00:20:33it's such a story, so
00:20:35it doesn't expose the American public for the first time to
00:20:39this issue. This is an issue that definitely exists and it also exists in the political system,
00:20:43there is a lot of talk about it unlike other things,
00:20:46and unlike the situation in Gaza, this
00:20:49issue of violence in the West Bank does
00:20:52indeed capture the attention of the American political system. And it crosses Republican
00:20:56and Democratic lines when looking at the impact on public opinion or is this something that is truly
00:21:00more inclined to discussions in elections, mainly from Democratic
00:21:04candidates?
00:21:07Generally, the distancing from Israel is
00:21:11more on the Democratic side and somewhat less on the
00:21:14Republican side. But this specific issue of violence against
00:21:17Palestinians is an issue that crosses party lines. One of the main
00:21:21spokesmen against this is Ambassador Quay, the Ambassador
00:21:24to Israel, a right-wing Christian, conservative appointed by
00:21:27Trump. He is one of the main people calling to stop this,
00:21:31so this is really an issue that manages to cross party lines. But for example,
00:21:34a week and a half ago, there was a vote in the Senate,
00:21:38a group of Democratic senators, they
00:21:41proposed to condition aid to Israel on an investigation
00:21:45into violence in the territories, also talking mainly about
00:21:48the killing of nine American citizens since
00:21:512022. Almost all Democrats, except for one, the well-known
00:21:55John Fetterman, voted in favor of this resolution. All
00:21:58Republicans, except for one, voted against. So yes, there is a partisan
00:22:01division here. If you take into account that probably in the upcoming
00:22:04midterm elections, there is a chance that the Senate will flip and a very big chance that the House of Representatives
00:22:08will flip, such proposals will also start to pass in Congress. That Israel
00:22:11is facing a wave of extensive sanctions in Europe, something that will probably
00:22:15expand and not be limited only to the individuals and entities
00:22:19we have heard about until now. Many say, well, we have the United
00:22:22States, how long will that last if midterm elections are actually held
00:22:26and we see the situation
00:22:27reversed?
00:22:30There will always be the United States, the question is what the United States will do
00:22:34on this specific issue, for example, steps can be expected. It should be remembered
00:22:37that during the previous administration, the Biden administration imposed
00:22:40personal sanctions on individuals
00:22:44and several organizations in the settlements due to such
00:22:47acts of violence. They were all revoked by Trump, the kind of things that
00:22:51Congress has less control over, but they will definitely be on
00:22:54the agenda again after the elections. We can expect
00:22:57changes when Democrats, if and when
00:23:00Democrats control both houses of Congress, both declaratively
00:23:04and by passing all sorts of resolutions, condemnations, calls
00:23:08for sanctions, things like that. There are limitations in the end to how much Congress can deal
00:23:11with foreign policy. The central issue that Israel
00:23:14will have to look at is the question of weapons. Every sale
00:23:18of weapons, whether from American taxpayers' money or from
00:23:21Israelis' pockets, the Israeli government, every such deal must
00:23:24pass through Congress. Democrats have already made it clear
00:23:28that they will block deals for heavy bombs,
00:23:31for JDAMS,
00:23:34for even planes that they think could. There are also Democrats
00:23:37who say that arms sales to Israel for defensive purposes should be stopped
00:23:41or conditioned. This will be the next struggle, for Israel
00:23:44to convince the Americans that what Israel does with the weapons it buys
00:23:48from them is within the law. Thank you very much. I want us to see another
00:23:51segment from the investigation, moments after this confrontation we saw on camera,
00:23:55this is how it looks when a soldier arrives there.
00:23:58just as things were getting out of
00:24:00hand.
00:24:04captain in the Israeli army turned up, seemingly out of
00:24:07nowhere. the soldiers had to go down the road to
00:24:11rescue the last two activists and then he told all of
00:24:14us to clear out. but are you going to let the
00:24:18boys go back there? that's my question.
00:24:50all that he doesn't remember his name at Ariel Kahana, these images
00:24:53occupy, occupy foreign media, on social media it
00:24:57explodes with millions of views, and as Nathan
00:25:00said, it comes, it's in the Republican administration, Ambassador Alter
00:25:04spoke about it, Ambassador Kvivi really
00:25:07loves the settlement enterprise and completely
00:25:11talks about Israeli terrorists who cause damage
00:25:15to the world. First of all, it's really immoral
00:25:18and it's not... it's not Jewish what they did there, the harm
00:25:22to the villages is a crime on a nationalist background. They don't have a personal
00:25:26conflict with some villager. They don't even know the house of those they are going after when they enter the village
00:25:30at two in the morning. Beyond that, on the ethical side, it is clear that it
00:25:33harms the settlement, it harms the State
00:25:36of Israel. The vote he talked about could harm
00:25:40American aid. It's billions in security aid that
00:25:44the United States gives us. This time, this vote
00:25:47was prevented, meaning postponed, but who knows
00:25:50what will happen after the midterm elections? Uh, the State
00:25:53of Israel doesn't really deal with it, but okay, so the State of Israel doesn't
00:25:56deal with it. Everyone talks about the damage, but the politicians,
00:26:00whether by their silence or not. Many times they also back
00:26:04these rioters. What a shame that the elections will soon pass and then
00:26:08maybe we can expect more from our politicians because
00:26:11now is a period where I think there are those who refrain from expressing a very
00:26:15clear position. Yes, they express a clear position
00:26:18at some point. What do you mean? Yes, Bezalel Smotrich wrote an article
00:26:22in his sector's newspaper and stood against
00:26:25this. In Hagey Segal, you know, the names that are kind of inside, also Rabbi Eliakim
00:26:29Levanon, also Rabbi Eliakim Levanon wrote that it was not included.
00:26:35Still, it's a group that to deal with it, you need more than just saying
00:26:39once a month that you condemn violence. This is something that requires action. Someone
00:26:43like Kolaritz, in this case, has a tick in the Ministry
00:26:46of Defense. Maybe he can do something about it instead of just writing in the newspaper
00:26:50on Twitter. You didn't ask if they condemned a year ago. I say yes,
00:26:53they condemned a year ago. The fact that they condemn, they always condemn. Okay. There is
00:26:57no one in the Israeli leadership who supports these things. Every time there is
00:27:01such an event, we hear it from wall to wall. It should be said, by the way, it should also
00:27:04be said, since there are two or three listeners, after all,
00:27:08and perhaps we are also concerned with Israeli current affairs, so yes,
00:27:12there is wall-to-wall condemnation within Israeli society
00:27:15and Israeli politics. Is enough being done? Clearly not. I think we have
00:27:19a consensus around this table. Last week there was the
00:27:22incident in Mitzpe Jericho where policemen who came to arrest
00:27:25a suspect in Jewish terrorism or nationalist crime,
00:27:29I don't even know what he was suspected of, were attacked.
00:27:32And now it turns out that there might be members of
00:27:35Knesset themselves involved. Where
00:27:38is the police here at all? Kroyzer acts like the police who were
00:27:42attacked. Ben Gvir, according to reports, came there and did not
00:27:45give support to the policemen. So it's not really
00:27:48that the leadership of the State of Israel really wants
00:27:52to act against these rioters. We have now reached six
00:27:55at the polls.
00:28:00So here's a brief summary. President Herzog says: I will do everything
00:28:04in my power to prevent more elections.
00:28:06I will really, really do everything I can to prevent
00:28:10repeat elections. Naftali Bennett retracted after giving
00:28:14the option of a government with Netanyahu. As long as we accept
00:28:17the basic principles, I have no
00:28:21problem with Netanyahu being a minister in our government. I will start
00:28:25very clearly. Netanyahu cannot be in the Israeli government
00:28:28for another minute. He must go home.
00:28:32And also. Ofer Winter returned fire today. An
00:28:35hour has passed and Netanyahu has not released a film, a video, about me.
00:28:39So I admit. I will say that whoever is to blame for inciting the right
00:28:43is Benjamin Netanyahu who does not stop and does not relent and shoots us
00:28:47in the back even though we are a right-wing government. Yes,
00:28:50and the poll published last night on Kan News indicates a change, even
00:28:54a reversal in the bloc picture. Netanyahu's bloc strengthens to 53
00:28:57seats. Try to explain this to me, Shahar will start
00:29:01with exactly what. First of all, Netanyahu's bloc is strengthening mainly
00:29:05because suddenly Ofer Winter passes the threshold, and that's mainly what
00:29:08adds to Netanyahu's bloc. Yes, but you are looking in the end at the long-term
00:29:12trends, you see that Netanyahu's bloc remains more or less in these
00:29:16numbers, 52-53, and the opposition bloc simply drops by five
00:29:19months, they dropped nine seats, even seven seats in the last
00:29:23two months. It happens
00:29:26that two events occur in the political map
00:29:30of one, two and a half mandates of the owner.
00:29:33They return to the table because of the connection of the Arab parties and two
00:29:36the party of Handel and Zlicha suddenly passes the blocking and therefore
00:29:40enters and we kind of associate it with the space between the blocs, but in fact it is part of the Gush
00:29:44Eisenkot, meaning the Gush is really on 54 because they do say we are not
00:29:47in any bloc but their message sheet
00:29:50completely matches, meaning they will not sit with Haredim, they will not sit with Arabs, they will complete
00:29:5461 exactly like Binet for Eisenkot but they will not complete
00:29:5761 with the Arab parties. There is no difference in the message sheet between them and Liberman for
00:30:01that matter. This house, but we attribute them between the blocs, because they say, we are
00:30:05not exactly with them in the bloc, but if you look at it and say okay, new mandates
00:30:09have joined the game, both from Handel and Zlicha, and also the mandates of
00:30:12the Arab parties, and yet Netanyahu's bloc remains the same, Eisenkot's
00:30:16bloc is falling, so that means that something in the numbers, meaning Netanyahu
00:30:19has strengthened over time, it's not such a significant strengthening all at once, but
00:30:23a slow strengthening of his bloc relative to the statistics, and Yarah, I
00:30:26assume you also saw and understood what we showed here earlier
00:30:30and you say to yourself what. I don't
00:30:33want to ruin it for you, I think it's pretty clear he was joking
00:30:36in the first video, because if you watch it with the question, the question
00:30:39was, if he accepts your
00:30:43terms, will you sit under Netanyahu? He said, if he accepts our terms, he
00:30:47can sit under us, but no wait, but
00:30:50this soundbite comes out whether it was a joke or not, the partners in the bloc
00:30:54claim it was serious, right? So that's the part I would
00:30:57focus on, the partners in the bloc made a big deal
00:31:01of it. Who gave this half-joke
00:31:04at some conference in front of students,
00:31:07uh, when it's not legally possible at all, yes, Netanyahu cannot be
00:31:11prime minister, he has an indictment, in any scenario he is.
00:31:15A. a joke, B. impossible, C. politically
00:31:18illogical, and also on this, the change bloc managed
00:31:22to have a half-day fight, during which everyone issued statements
00:31:26and statements, a response of counter-attack, and Benett
00:31:29was forced to say that he clarifies
00:31:32that he was joking and he didn't mean it, and everyone said, but we suspect him
00:31:36that maybe he actually meant it, meant
00:31:38what, it's really great that in this bloc
00:31:42they manage to fight over nothing, it somewhat explains maybe why indeed.
00:31:45In two months, suddenly seven mandates disappear or nine mandates in five
00:31:48months, because you see that this bloc is mainly busy with internal
00:31:52wars, there is no strategic thinking except for some meeting and signing a document
00:31:55to upload a joint picture from Yair Lapid's house, there is no joint
00:31:59strategic bloc thinking, Netanyahu will tell you all day and every time we
00:32:03ask them about this issue, the Knesset members of the parties will tell you why we have
00:32:06four parties, we are organized, we have no vote leakage, everything remains
00:32:10relatively within the body except for Handel Zlicha and Ben Gantz, but okay, yes, but Handel
00:32:14Zlicha and Ben Gantz.
00:32:25In the end, the Knesset members who talk to us from these parties are busy all day slandering each
00:32:29other instead of focusing on the strategy of how
00:32:32to attract votes from Netanyahu's bloc instead of really
00:32:35thinking like that, you know, at the time Eisenkot, even a year ago, sat
00:32:39with them and mapped it out for them and told them, look, this is
00:32:43Naftali Bennett needs to bring the, uh.
00:32:48He literally divided it for them, and instead of actually making some division of who goes
00:32:52where or strategic planning of who is going to be, you see that Gadi Eisenkot today
00:32:55is campaigning on "vote for me, I'm the largest party." You see that the attacks are
00:32:59really Naftali Bennett says something like that as a joke and everyone runs to try and drink his
00:33:02mandates. The internal cannibalism is what occupies everyone, and maybe
00:33:06that's why they really don't succeed in asking, but you deal with this. What
00:33:10do they tell you? No, this is what will help us, if you
00:33:13know, if he goes down. And I will go up. This is what will help us win
00:33:17against Netanyahu. In the end, in practice, it doesn't work. Ah, Netanyahu's
00:33:20advisor, Yonatan Urich, promises that he will sue whoever leaked communications from
00:33:24his WhatsApp. Remember the last time a breach was exposed
00:33:28right before elections? It was to Benny Gantz's mobile phone
00:33:31in 2019, 2018? Remember? Right
00:33:35before. Pay attention to how the Likud campaign knew how to exploit the
00:33:38situation. While I
00:33:40instructed to break into Iran's
00:33:44nuclear archive. Iran hacked Benny Gantz's mobile phone.
00:33:48Netanyahu hacked Iran's nuclear archive.
00:33:51Gantz, if you can't protect your phone, how will you protect
00:33:54the State of Israel? Embarrassing. If Gantz couldn't
00:33:58protect his phone, how will he protect our
00:34:01country? Lapid and Gantz in a panic,
00:34:04because Iran hacked Gantz's phone.
00:34:07The thought that a prime minister in Israel would be subject
00:34:10to blackmail by Israel's number one enemy
00:34:14is... In this
00:34:38case, since he is supposedly a private citizen, it is not
00:34:41clear, there is no official state body that...
00:35:15Since he is supposedly considered a private
00:35:16citizen, our compassion, of course, for those
00:35:20whose communications
00:35:21are leaked,
00:35:25you can check for yourself. No, you are not registered, I don't have that
00:35:28software, first of all, you shouldn't even pay attention, you shouldn't even
00:35:32pay attention,
00:35:34even,
00:35:37I can also ask you, you wrote, he doesn't ask about
00:35:40the recording, check inside, so I say, you shouldn't even pay attention to any
00:35:44correspondence.
00:36:08I think we should feel very sorry for those whose writings are spread. I
00:36:12think this is certainly
00:36:14something that should teach us something about modesty or about
00:36:17the arrogance of all of us when we connect to various
00:36:21virtual agents. Of course, the question is
00:36:23whether there is any reason to fear for the Likud campaign?
00:36:27That more secrets will be exposed along the way, even if we don't talk about them here in the studio, so I don't
00:36:31know, and I don't think anyone knows. I assume there are many people who are currently
00:36:35really worried about what communications of theirs will come out or not,
00:36:39but apropos what Yarah said earlier, and I agree with that, this campaign is not effective, meaning you
00:36:42look and you ask those who do deal with it, who deal with data and research
00:36:46which campaigns are effective on whom? And you see that among what are called
00:36:50the switchers, okay, those who change sides, the people who are targeted to
00:36:54move them between the blocs, negative campaigns.
00:36:57Against a candidate, certainly, you know, when the change bloc tries to attract
00:37:01people who once voted for Netanyahu, campaigns against him
00:37:04harm them greatly, and therefore they try very hard to understand how I show this
00:37:08to people, but not for them to see it, but for the audience that is deeper within the bloc,
00:37:12these are not campaigns, these are pictures that are coming today from Class 10.
00:37:15Breslov Hasidim who are arriving in an organized manner at a demonstration
00:37:18demanding that Daniel travel to Uman quietly in prison, that they created them
00:37:22well, there are no more children, they are not yet deserters, but certainly among all
00:37:26the other things that happened today, this also happened. This is what it looks like before the children arrive, or
00:37:30is it when they already arrive? It's already in the beginning, it's
00:37:33such processes as time went by. In total, hundreds of children
00:37:37from the Breslov Hasidic movement from the Torah schools of the Breslov Hasidic movement
00:37:40arrived today during the school day. They arrived by organized buses from all the different
00:37:44factions within this Hasidic movement, almost all of them. On their way, they brought them
00:37:48to the military prison to hold a protest rally there. The Breslov Hasidic movement was
00:37:52a Hasidic movement that is associated with more than anything else with the journey
00:37:54to Uman, and this year thousands of.
00:38:14We returned to school because all the yeshivas returned to school, so we can
00:38:17also take them out to the organized protest, which, by the way, is against the law,
00:38:21against the unequivocal instructions of the Ministry of Education, it is forbidden for students, certainly not
00:38:24children to participate in.
00:38:27Organized protests. The Ministry of Education says we will investigate and deal with it.
00:38:31We'll wait. It seems to me that the Ministry of Education has more urgent matters to deal
00:38:35with right now. Friends, thank you very much. The Mayor of Kfar Saba
00:38:38and his wife were arrested today as part of a broad investigation on suspicion
00:38:41of corruption. The economic company in the city allegedly
00:38:44rigged tenders in exchange for bribes. These question marks arose already
00:38:48in an investigation that was broadcast right here two years ago in the series of reports "City
00:38:51Land." I wanted to convene a board meeting, I had many questions
00:38:55and I didn't get answers. I tried to understand who? Today, the point I requested
00:38:59is a board member, meaning I received approval, he has a right
00:39:01to vote, and I didn't have to receive an answer. There is a tender
00:39:05that seems to have been rigged so that a specific person would win
00:39:09it, for a new position. There are works that we don't know about, no budget,
00:39:13no company, no work plan.
00:39:16We tried to examine the conduct of the economic company in Kfar Saba in recent
00:39:19years and encountered quite a few problematic issues. Here,
00:39:23for example, something that happened almost four years ago when the Kfar Saba
00:39:27Economic Company decided to install
00:39:30solar panels on the roof of a school in the Lower Galilee, without
00:39:34any approval from the Ministry of Interior. Yes, Oren Aharoni and Deputy Commissioner Eli
00:39:37Judah are joining us now. Hello to
00:39:40both of you. Let's start with you, Oren, because what we saw here
00:39:44in your investigation is actually the infrastructure that eventually starts
00:39:47this investigation. Look, in the end, this is a report we broadcast
00:39:50two years ago,
00:39:54exactly two years and a month ago. And we found
00:39:56that I. power at all over the economic company, meaning, the one who manages everything
00:40:00there is the mayor who was arrested today, and the manager of the economic
00:40:04company who was arrested today, the mayor was also arrested with his wife, and we hear
00:40:07stories and we hear about tenders that pass without supervision, and we hear about
00:40:11money that passes without supervision, and we hear about all sorts of
00:40:14conducts where there isn't even a board that approves all
00:40:18these things, and we tried to find out what is happening, how such a thing
00:40:21happens, how it is possible that so much money, we're talking about millions,
00:40:25even more than just a few millions. passes and it's public
00:40:29money, passes like that without a problem, without approvals or
00:40:33with retroactive approvals or all sorts of things like that that seemed suspicious
00:40:36to us, of course we didn't get answers, but this is
00:40:40the entire basis of what
00:40:41led
00:40:44to the end today, to the arrests today, we
00:40:47also heard things then about the mayor's wife, we
00:40:51couldn't prove it then in the report, but these are stories
00:40:54we heard back then, and I'm talking to you two years ago, so I want to join
00:40:57you, Deputy Commissioner Eli Judah, how does
00:41:01this mechanism actually work as you understand today after they were
00:41:04arrested? We understand
00:41:08that interested parties in the field of local
00:41:12authorities
00:41:14operate their failures through the mayor's wife
00:41:17and bribe, pay money,
00:41:21in order to exert her influence on the mayor and on other
00:41:24officials, also on the CEO of the
00:41:28economic company of that city, and these funds that reach them, we already see
00:41:31in the reports that you published, um, are spent
00:41:35on clothes, on brands, on cars. How much do you manage
00:41:39in the end to also seize
00:41:40there?
00:41:43We seized hundreds of thousands of shekels today,
00:41:46uh, cars, luxury bags, jewelry and luxury
00:41:49watches, which we managed to seize in the suspects' homes
00:41:53and in their vehicles, and currently they are arrested here
00:41:57for interrogation, and the scope of the
00:42:00offense for those
00:42:03tenders that were sold, which are worth millions.
00:42:06Oren, I want to go back to you for a moment. You said earlier about the lack of supervision. How
00:42:10easily decisions can be made there without anyone,
00:42:14any authority, trying to supervise to understand if
00:42:17there is something wrong here. You spoke with those who tried to do it but
00:42:21simply didn't succeed.
00:42:24So I'll take you one level up, which is the Ministry of Interior. The Ministry of Interior is
00:42:28a body that is supposed to supervise these things as well, to see what's happening. The Israel Police started
00:42:32investigating, investigated, reached what it reached, but the Ministry of Interior
00:42:35was supposed to supervise these things, and if not before, then after
00:42:38the report. Who is the Minister of Interior? There is no Minister of Interior, there has been no Minister
00:42:42of Interior for a year. Even before, by the way, there was a Minister of Interior, the entire
00:42:45municipal issue is an issue that politicians usually don't want
00:42:48to touch, because there is, because it's about political
00:42:51power within the parties, but it's simply not
00:42:54dealt with, it's not dealt with. We started this series "City Land" about
00:42:58five years ago, we are already after 60 cities that we examined
00:43:02for levels of corruption or improper administration, such
00:43:05and others, and the Ministry
00:43:08of Interior in most of these cases that we manage to see does not deal
00:43:12with these issues, does not investigate these issues, and this is an issue that is
00:43:15under the supervision of the Ministry of Interior. The Ministry of Interior should have seen that there is no
00:43:18board, requested answers, made sure there is
00:43:22a board, made sure there is supervision, done supervision itself, looked
00:43:26at the numbers, seen what the numbers are, after all, this is public
00:43:29money, this is money of the residents of Petah, of the residents of Kfar
00:43:33Saba, when this money is used in such
00:43:36a way and tenders are rigged, Deputy Commissioner Judah.
00:43:40In the end, there can be, there can also be a danger to the public, not
00:43:44when things happen without the appropriate supervision in a process that is not
00:43:47proper, this is also, it's not just wasted public funds, it's also
00:43:50dangerous.
00:43:53Uh, I cannot deny what you are saying, there is indeed
00:43:57a danger here, but there is also a real harm to public interests within
00:44:01the city, instead of giving the tender
00:44:04to whoever is worthy of doing it, they give it to whoever pays
00:44:08money and also. This harms the oversight mechanisms that exist,
00:44:12because essentially there is a tailoring of the tender to the measurements of that
00:44:15of that briber. And when Oren
00:44:18talks about how we see this repeating itself in other authorities and other authorities,
00:44:22the Ministry of Interior should be there, but what about you? How much are you able
00:44:26to deal with such cases coming from the north, south
00:44:29and center?
00:44:32It's really a big challenge to manage such large
00:44:36corruption cases, because it drains a lot of manpower
00:44:39from the unit. But we don't give up and we
00:44:42will continue to investigate corruption
00:44:45in other local authorities.
00:44:48Currently, this case is in its early stages and is expected
00:44:51to last for several more months, because there is a
00:44:54bribery mechanism
00:44:58that includes many cases. Oren, give us an
00:45:01optimistic sentence to finish, because in the end, someone will wake up, they won't understand the
00:45:04noise, no, don't laugh, they'll understand that there are mountains of corruption here and it crosses
00:45:08sectors and crosses, crosses. Geographically, no,
00:45:12it crosses everything, it's, it's found in many places, and it's
00:45:15a kind of twilight zone, a twilight zone like that that really,
00:45:19is not always supervised, and sometimes it's a bit more
00:45:22sophisticated than what we see today, and it's really sometimes very
00:45:26difficult to get to these things, but it happens, many
00:45:29tenders in the field of contracting and in the field of projects
00:45:32in local authorities, they are tenders that many
00:45:36I have encountered tenders where I knew in advance who was going to win
00:45:39these tenders, who was going to receive the money,
00:45:43uh, many times it's hard to prove, to be
00:45:46optimistic, look, we need to fight it and we need to be
00:45:50transparent and we need to demand this transparency, both within the cities, both the residents, both
00:45:53opposition members, and of course also the police, Oren
00:45:57Haroni, Deputy Commissioner Eli Judah, thank you very much to both of you,
00:46:00thank you, thank you, Yes, and we are now returning to the north,
00:46:04in about an hour we are expected to hear the Minister of Education, at Rambam
00:46:07Hospital, where.
00:46:10some of the wounded are, the Prime Minister will also most likely arrive there. Liran,
00:46:13what do we know from the Ministry of Education regarding the possibility that trips
00:46:17to the north will be canceled. Currently, this is the option being considered, first
00:46:20of all, trips to the north, again, I can't understand the difference if
00:46:24there are also casualties in the south. We are all in a state of war, meaning if they cancel
00:46:28all trips in a certain area so as not to take a risk, then maybe they should cancel everything.
00:46:32It's not clear, it's still being examined by the Ministry of Education. We saw earlier the
00:46:36sign that Ruby filmed for us. Look,
00:46:40there's the emergency room call center for school trips, which the Ministry of Education operates, actually operated by
00:46:44the Society for the Protection of Nature, a nature call center, meaning also
00:46:47representatives of the IDF, uh,
00:46:50are supposed to sit there and give advice,
00:47:06in this area in the north because the war is over, the Ministry of
00:47:09Education pushed for it, of course, the yeshiva
00:47:12principal, the trip coordinator needed to be here, I don't
00:47:16want to say, it's likely they also needed to be in a police investigation to answer
00:47:20these things, they were investigated, of course there are still. still wounded in the field, I mean
00:47:24in the field, not in the actual disaster area, they were evacuated to the nearby Kibbutz Yiftach, there is
00:47:28a circle of students who need, I want to say
00:47:32a hug, but it's beyond a hug, someone needs to take care of them, and that's what they are doing
00:47:36now in Kibbutz Yiftach and also in the hospitals, to contain
00:47:39this event, their friend was killed and they have other wounded friends,
00:47:43and therefore they will need to examine how exactly to do it, to combine
00:47:47the investigation with the treatment of this event, of course. Liran,
00:47:50thank you very much, we will of course continue. Update here from the north, from the northern border,
00:47:54as soon as there are any further updates. Now for the next story,
00:47:57Shaked Biton is driving as he does every day on his way from Rishon LeZion to Tel
00:48:01Aviv, suddenly he is involved in a road accident, only after a car hits
00:48:05him, that car flees, Shaked gets into a chase
00:48:08that ends like this,
00:48:11I'm a police officer, follow me, I'm a police officer, follow me,
00:48:15follow me, get in slowly, I'm a police officer, I'm a police officer, get
00:48:19in, get in, stop.
00:48:24He says I'm a cop because the police just didn't arrive. Hello
00:48:27Shaked.
00:48:29Hello. You notice this specific car even before it
00:48:33hits you at all, right? Yes, there were two
00:48:36cars, two Toyota Corollas, to be honest. I deliberately
00:48:40say Toyota Corolla because there's something about this car,
00:48:44when I posted the incident, I literally didn't stop getting messages that people
00:48:48with Toyota Corollas drive like crazy on the roads. So basically two
00:48:51cars that seemed like some kind of race between them or I don't
00:48:55know what, driving really, really fast, and the other
00:48:58car basically cuts me off, I literally
00:49:01in the last second shifted the car, it scrapes
00:49:04my entire right side of the car, I literally
00:49:08don't know how it happened,
00:49:10by luck, and he continues driving,
00:49:13and I have adrenaline in my body and I don't understand
00:49:17the event, I understand there's someone who hits me and thinks he'll
00:49:19run away, you're chasing him at that moment. Wait a
00:49:29second to understand, okay, they hit me, but I see he's pressing the gas even
00:49:32harder, so I decided that I'm going to
00:49:34follow him and I drove until I caught
00:49:37him and he
00:49:40stopped and I was sure we were going to exchange
00:49:43details and I was like, I said, okay I'll give him a lecture, what are you
00:49:46running away for, but it wasn't an incident when I stopped
00:49:50suddenly I realize there are. Uh, three
00:49:53people in the car, that there's another
00:49:56car in front of them that stops, I see them, they
00:49:59literally open the door forcefully, curse me
00:50:03in Arabic, but the thing that scared me
00:50:07the most was that one of them I literally saw a kind of motion
00:50:10that he was taking something, putting it under his shirt, I saw
00:50:14it, it was quite dark, but I saw him putting something in and coming
00:50:17towards me, I understood that exchanging details was not going to happen
00:50:20here, and...
00:50:22And I had a second of this, I said, okay, I'll step on the gas and get
00:50:25out of there, but I don't know what happened to me,
00:50:29I decided that I wanted, that I wanted to win
00:50:32this situation, and I would not give up
00:50:34on them, and I just started screaming
00:50:38at them, I just yelled at them, I'm a cop, pull over,
00:50:40follow me, I literally started screaming
00:50:43at them, and you can really hear
00:50:46in the recording that he tells me, but I didn't
00:50:48run away, he believed me that I was a cop.
00:50:52Luckily, and that's good, you managed to trick him, but where are the real
00:50:56cops? You're trying to reach the police in the meantime, what's happening with
00:50:59that? So it took almost an hour for the police to arrive.
00:51:03At first they told me, don't be afraid of them, they're not
00:51:06that bad, or some weird phrase like that. I'm
00:51:10explaining to them, I'm also calling, and I'm also you're in such a
00:51:13situation, like I won't be politically correct for a moment, but there's
00:51:17something in the language and in the speech and in the cursing
00:51:21that we're a few days after October that takes you back to a completely
00:51:24different event and you feel like it's closing in on you
00:51:27and another car arrives and they curse
00:51:30you and I won't say what they said and they make gestures with their
00:51:34hands and some delivery
00:51:37driver arrives and drives against traffic, drives
00:51:40around my car, films me, curses me and all this I'm
00:51:44communicating to the police in the meantime and I'm screaming at them, when are you coming? What
00:51:48do you want me to do? What do you want? You tell me not to get out of the car,
00:51:51wait for us. And I tell them, what if they now take a rock and smash
00:51:55my window? What if what I said about being a cop
00:51:59doesn't hold water? And they understand that it's already, that it's
00:52:02like, what happens? What do you do? How does it end?
00:52:12The funnier thing is that he tells me, listen,
00:52:16he doesn't have insurance. I tell him, okay,
00:52:20like, no problem, it's a problem that I have insurance, I pay for
00:52:23insurance, I don't understand, I okay, everything
00:52:26is fine, and I tell him, okay, so what do I need to do? So he tells me, sue him
00:52:30civilly. I tell him, and what until
00:52:33then? What until then? What until then? All
00:52:37the costs, I need to bear. I spoke with my insurance
00:52:39company who also explained to me that in such a situation it's better
00:52:43for you to settle it with them, but when I explained to him that they are in East Jerusalem and there's no one
00:52:47to talk to and they also weren't exactly in favor of settling things with me, then he told me
00:52:51it's better for you to pay for it and not go to the police and not file a complaint and not do anything.
00:52:54I will say that I did go and file a complaint and the
00:52:58police officers were, when the police arrived, they really made me feel comfortable, I have
00:53:02to say that honestly, and I also don't blame the police officers
00:53:07for this mess, because with all the calls they have, I don't blame
00:53:10them, I only say one
00:53:13thing, that I think, I also brought up
00:53:17this whole thing, because in my opinion it's a bigger event, the upcoming elections,
00:53:20I think that a person drives here in Rishon
00:53:24LeZion, let them not tell us stories about the end of the world, in Rishon
00:53:27LeZion a person gets out of the car, drives to his partner in Tel
00:53:31Aviv and almost loses his life, and he still has
00:53:34to bear the cost of this whole event, this is something that must
00:53:37stop. I, there are all
00:53:40sorts of people who are now in some kind of campaign and they go and show us very
00:53:44nice videos about what about how they talk to
00:53:48people who are behind bars, and I say
00:53:51the opposite, we need someone who will not
00:53:54have people behind bars, this is the reason I brought
00:53:58it up, and it's simply
00:54:01disappointing that a citizen in the State of Israel who pays
00:54:05taxes who has insurance has to
00:54:08suffer from this whole event and you have, like, nothing
00:54:12to do and moreover I received messages from so many people
00:54:15from hundreds of people that this happens to them and this
00:54:18situation, it's not just that I said Toyota Corolla and it's not just that I said they speak
00:54:22Arabic because we're tired of talking about this political correctness, everyone knows what
00:54:25the problem is, everyone knows what the problem is, everyone tells us
00:54:28that there's a solution but the bottom line is a person can't
00:54:31drive in fucking Rishon LeZion. Yes, thank you very
00:54:35much.
00:54:38Thank you. Sofia Rosenfeld, an Israeli researcher,
00:54:42was sentenced to 3 and a half years in prison in Moscow. The reason
00:54:46is a donation she made five years ago to an organization that opposes
00:54:49Putin, a donation of, pay attention, only 80 shekels.
00:54:53Boris, Sofia's father and Leo's brother, joins us now. Hello
00:54:56to both of you. Hello, hello.
00:55:00Boris, when did you realize that Sofia was arrested and taken
00:55:03to prison in Russia?
00:55:07We understood this exactly
00:55:10on the day of the trial, which was symbolic on October
00:55:147th, she was arrested in the courtroom.
00:55:17until the trial she was
00:55:20עד המשפט היא הייתה
00:55:22free,
00:55:24but the indictment and...
00:55:28The raid on her house there
00:55:30in Moscow, was
00:55:34in.
00:55:38At the end of November, you got involved. What exactly do they claim in Russia
00:55:42she did, what is she
00:55:43accused of?
00:55:46So they accused her of donating to an organization that is considered
00:55:50illegal, an extremist organization, which is actually the organization of
00:55:53Alexei Navalny, the well-known
00:55:56opposition figure who passed away a few
00:56:00years ago,
00:56:03and actually.
00:56:09The death of anyone who contributes about 40 shekels today in Russia means a person is detained for a period of
00:56:123 and a half years, three and a half years in prison because of
00:56:1680 shekels, is that what you understand is happening
00:56:18there?
00:56:21That's exactly what's happening there, right, but I can
00:56:24explain how it happened, it wasn't, it wasn't
00:56:28intentionally, she broke the law when she
00:56:31made a standing order to the bank.
00:56:35Every month a thousand rubles, the
00:56:38organization was completely legal, then she
00:56:41went on an expedition
00:56:44to the Arctic, she deals with Arctic
00:56:47geese, and she was there all
00:56:49summer 2021, and when she
00:56:53returned to Moscow, she canceled
00:56:57these payments, but both
00:56:59payments went out in August
00:57:02and on the first of September since then.
00:57:17We have a letter
00:57:18through this organization
00:57:22that deals with forms, but we can't
00:57:25Shubas Shubas Rosy,
00:57:29yes, she was found only on Thursday, we haven't
00:57:33had time to make contact, really, only the lawyer was and also an internal police
00:57:37yesterday. Is there any help you are receiving from the authorities
00:57:41in Israel? We know that in Russia there are often
00:57:43arrests of foreign citizens and attempts to use them.
00:57:47As leverage, that's what happened with Naomi Sacker, do they help you
00:57:51in Israel?
00:57:54Ah, let's just say this, they
00:57:57know, I sent a letter to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, they
00:58:01are dealing with it, but they
00:58:05say
00:58:06that,
00:58:10well, they can't influence
00:58:13the court process, but
00:58:16help. Humanitarian aid, a consul
00:58:20can visit her, yes, they will
00:58:23try to do that, look, for me personally,
00:58:26the timing is also
00:58:30significant, there are discussions about a political prisoner
00:58:33swap deal, there are discussions with the United
00:58:36States, and yes, in my opinion, the timing is indeed
00:58:39related to similar
00:58:43cases that
00:58:45were tried in that court
00:58:49with similar charges, she received a much
00:58:53higher sentence than the usual cases, and yes, in
00:58:57my opinion, there is clearly a political issue here.
00:59:00Good, we hope that they hear us here also at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
00:59:04and of course whoever can exert pressure and help release
00:59:07Sofia. Boris and Lev, thank you
00:59:09very much, thank you very much, thank you, thank
00:59:13you very, thank you very, very much, I really hope there will be good
00:59:17news soon. Thank you,
00:59:21we will be happy, the Privacy Protection Authority asks the police to investigate who
00:59:24leaked the documents about Meli and Liel, Attorney Hedi Menachem Bar,
00:59:28hello to you, hello, you are asking for
00:59:32a clarification now from the police regarding the violation
00:59:35of privacy of Meli and Liel Yahalomi, what would you actually
00:59:39like to see happen?
00:59:42We contacted the head of the Privacy Protection Authority, Attorney Gilad Smama,
00:59:45who also contacted the police
00:59:49body called the internal privacy supervisor,
00:59:52a senior police position
00:59:55at the rank of Assistant Commissioner, asking to clarify
00:59:59the publications that on the face of things appeared
01:00:02to be leaks from the police regarding Meli and Liel
01:00:06Alumi, publications that we saw that contained a real violation
01:00:09of their privacy and on the face of things we did not find
01:00:13any need or justification that justified such a severe
01:00:16violation of privacy. When you talk about these publications, you are talking
01:00:20about their documentation from the moment they were found in Argentina, really
01:00:24the documents that were filmed inside the bus and at the station there, there was
01:00:27a series of publications, this is one of them, I will say
01:00:31that the need to publish information about them, when they were missing, is clear
01:00:35to us, for their location and concern
01:00:38for their safety, and even after they were found, the need to update
01:00:42the public that they were found and that they are safe is clear to us, however,
01:00:45after they were found. There was a series of publications,
01:00:49the videos you are referring to, but also subsequent publications that appeared
01:00:53to be publications that came out of the police investigation,
01:00:56for example, their conversations, for example, their searches in artificial
01:01:00intelligence, for example, information regarding their financial situation, and also
01:01:04last week information regarding their return date to Israel,
01:01:08which again regarding these publications we saw that on the one hand they are very
01:01:11very private, and we saw that they violate privacy,
01:01:15and on the other hand we did not see any justification. The need at this stage, after they have already
01:01:19been found, to publish them and hence the difficulty we asked
01:01:22to clarify. That is, from the moment we understood that there was no criminal
01:01:26offense involved or that there was a real concern
01:01:29that they would be kidnapped. At that moment you say you should leave them alone,
01:01:33also not to brief on the motive, even if
01:01:36the Israeli public really wants to know what happened to them, that's our problem, they are not
01:01:40suspected of anything, there was no such claim and on the contrary it was said that they are not
01:01:43suspected, ah, they were found and they are safe, and therefore
01:01:47information. Collected by the police for their location is
01:01:50information that should remain with the police
01:01:54Why do you think it was leaked anyway? We asked
01:01:57to clarify
01:01:59We have contacted the police for clarification at this stage. We will wait
01:02:03for their response. We asked for an internal clarification
01:02:06and also lessons learned and the findings will be forwarded to the head
01:02:10of the authority. I will wait for their response. I don't know what
01:02:14the circumstances were, but we did see a problem with
01:02:17the clarification. Do you think this will prevent the panic and these festivals
01:02:21next time something like this happens or is it the
01:02:24natural curiosity of Israelis? I
01:02:28understand the issue. But still, this is the Israel Police
01:02:32and it has a responsibility and as I said we have someone within
01:02:35the police for a year who is responsible for privacy, so
01:02:39I believe that through this clarification and setting
01:02:43norms and policies, also for future times, we will indeed be able to make a change.
01:02:46Attorney Hedi Menachem Bar, thank you very much to you, thank
01:02:50you. We already know augmented reality glasses, but that's
01:02:53mainly from games as part
01:02:56of tech conferences. Now they have also entered operating rooms.
01:03:03She meets the surgeons who are developing the next way
01:03:06to create more secure surgeries, maybe
01:03:09simpler ones. Here's a short clip from the report that will be broadcast
01:03:12in the newscast today. What we see is that we are looking at a CT
01:03:15on a 2D screen and our brain actually translates it into 3D.
01:03:19These glasses actually allow
01:03:22us to see the tumor and the anatomical structures really
01:03:25in 3D, like in reality, and today one of the researches we are examining
01:03:29and developing. This is a system that will allow us to project the model even during
01:03:33surgery, to allow the surgeon to have as much
01:03:36information as possible and as much accuracy as possible regarding where those
01:03:39structures we want to preserve are located.
01:03:43To the observer from the side it might look funny, but when you look
01:03:46through the glasses, a whole world is revealed, an additional
01:03:50and deeper layer of imaging on the physical
01:03:53space. This is the patient's image and here we see, you can see the tumor
01:03:56itself, and you can explore it from all sorts of angles. And see
01:04:00exactly where this thing is located. The system they are developing here allows
01:04:03to take advanced imaging several steps further,
01:04:07to place them in space, to explore them from all directions and also
01:04:11to project them directly onto the patient's body during
01:04:14the operation. You can see here the tools, the important
01:04:18blood vessels, we see the tumor behind the spleen
01:04:21and above the kidney, and at this stage I can already see
01:04:25where the blood vessels are and what I need
01:04:27to be careful of, what I.
01:04:30I'm saying what I will try not to damage and what and where
01:04:33the tumor is located during the current operation. What you see here
01:04:37is happening within the framework of a research led by Dr. Mor
01:04:40Bashiva, at this stage the surgical procedures themselves
01:04:43are not yet performed while he is wearing the glasses,
01:04:47for that he still needs to go through a few more stages, however,
01:04:50according to him, this is undoubtedly the goal. It's very similar to what it used to be
01:04:53when we drove, ah, we used to use a map or we
01:04:57would stop someone on the street to ask where. How do we, how do we
01:05:01actually reach the destination we need to reach, and today we already have
01:05:04applications like Waze, like Google Maps, and also surgeons
01:05:07need, the GIA of the
01:05:21are starting.
01:05:35Hello to you, a heavy disaster in the north, an annual school trip
01:05:39that was supposed to be experiential and enjoyable,
01:05:42ended with one dead and over 20
01:05:45injured. From an initial investigation, it appears that the projectile
01:05:48that exploded was a cluster bomb from
01:05:51Hezbollah. One of the students put the projectile
01:05:54in his bag and then that projectile exploded.
01:05:57We will immediately have all the updates from what happened.