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00:00:02I advise them not to wait
00:00:04small businesses welcome the governance. The Tisza government, has begun with the goal of
00:00:33to their families,
00:00:46born is wanted and loved,
00:00:52thereby opening up the field for
00:00:55how do you plan to
00:01:00"Who destroyed
00:01:20record-high fuel prices? and slandering Tisza,
00:01:35talks about the flying start.
00:01:42For 16 years, they spoke
00:01:47workers, law enforcement
00:01:49the system considerably. now, that the
00:02:01In addition, they are currently
00:02:14problems. I would be very happy
00:02:19care, but you did
00:02:36of them, fewer would
00:03:00when they are not expected by the
00:03:20what it is now. year ago, they were
00:03:34acknowledge the sacrificial I don't think so, the
00:03:44differ significantly,
00:03:45economic policy, in which
00:04:07subsidies for everyday people, for
00:04:41Enough of this. This
00:04:57abban mindannyian egyetérthetünk, hogy a
00:05:06prime minister and his course, will not
00:09:03Good afternoon, I respectfully welcome you,
00:09:06I open the eighth session of the National
00:09:09Assembly's autumn session, and I inform you.
00:09:33October 6th is our country's
00:09:35national day of mourning, 177 years ago on this
00:09:39day, 13 high-ranking officers of the Hungarian War of Independence
00:09:43were executed in Arad, and Count Lajos Batthyány,
00:09:46the Prime Minister of Hungary's first responsible government,
00:09:49was executed in Pest. The retaliation following
00:09:53the War of Independence was unprecedented and unjust, as
00:09:56Batthyány consistently sought reconciliation, and the
00:10:00martyrs of Arad, realizing the hopelessness of the struggle,
00:10:03laid down their arms in the last days.
00:10:07The widespread retaliation aimed at political
00:10:10deterrence and international
00:10:13demonstration of strength. After the fall of the War of Independence, at least
00:10:17130 people were executed, most of them not even
00:10:20soldiers, but notaries, teachers,
00:10:23priests, who... never took up arms. Hundreds
00:10:27were imprisoned, and about 40-5000 soldiers were conscripted
00:10:31into the Imperial army
00:10:33as punishment.
00:10:35All this shocked Hungarian society, and the
00:10:38executions caused enormous international
00:10:41outrage. The governments from London to Saint
00:10:44Petersburg called in vain for self-restraint and
00:10:48mercy from the Habsburg governments. Esteemed
00:10:52colleagues, the martyrs, although.
00:10:56with their patriotism and moral integrity, they set an example for the
00:10:58Hungarians, which teaches all of us
00:11:01selflessness, patriotism, and the strength of comradeship.
00:11:05Although not all of them were born Hungarian,
00:11:08and their social status was also different, they still believed in
00:11:12the same things, professed the same
00:11:15values, and putting aside their differences,
00:11:18they united in the service of a noble ideal
00:11:21for them. Their fate became an eternal symbol
00:11:25of loyalty, perseverance, and sacrifice. We will never
00:11:29forget Lajos Batthyány, and Lajos Aulich,
00:11:32János Damjanich, Arisztid Dessewffy,
00:11:36Ernő Kiss, Károly Knézich, Vilmos
00:11:39Lázár, György Lahner, Károly Leiningen
00:11:41Westerburg, József Nagysándor, Ernő
00:11:45Poeltenberg, József Schweidel, Károly
00:11:49Török, and Károly Vécsey, and their
00:11:51sacrifice. Let us bow our heads before the
00:11:55anonymous victims of the reprisals. May their memory be blessed.
00:11:58Please, let us stand for a minute to honor
00:12:02the memory of the heroes.
00:13:05Thank you.
00:13:13Esteemed National Assembly, Mr. President Dr. Baka András
00:13:17has sent a letter to the National Assembly regarding the appointment
00:13:20of a new State Secretary. I ask Ms. Anikó Zsuzsanna Sóti, the clerk,
00:13:24to read the letter
00:13:26from the President.
00:13:29For Ágnes Fostoffer, Speaker of the National
00:13:31Assembly. Dear Madam Speaker, I inform the
00:13:35National Assembly that pursuant to Article 9, Paragraph
00:13:384, point e of the Fundamental
00:13:41Law, and Article 202, Paragraph 2 of Act
00:13:44CXXV of 2018 on Government Administration,
00:13:48I hereby appoint Dr. Katalin Dudás as State Secretary
00:13:51of the Ministry of Social and Family
00:13:54Affairs, effective October
00:13:575, 2026.
00:14:00Budapest, October
00:14:032, 2026. Sincerely,
00:14:06Dr. Baka András, President of the Republic. Esteemed
00:14:10National Assembly. Allow me to congratulate the State Secretary
00:14:13on behalf of the National Assembly, and wish her much success and good health in her
00:14:17work.
00:14:20Esteemed National Assembly, today the Prime Minister of Hungary
00:14:23has requested to speak before the agenda, with the title
00:14:27"Half a Year". Mr. Prime Minister, the floor is yours.
00:14:45Esteemed Madam Speaker,
00:14:47fellow Members of Parliament, esteemed guests, fellow
00:14:51countrymen, from within and beyond the borders,
00:14:55it is October 12th,
00:14:58exactly half a year ago,
00:15:02on April 12th, the country
00:15:04elected. In villages,
00:15:08in segregated areas, in housing estates,
00:15:11in small towns, in county seats,
00:15:14in the capital, people stood in long lines
00:15:17to decide the fate of their homeland,
00:15:20to choose.
00:15:22választhassanak.
00:15:25Not just a party, not just a leader,
00:15:28a system, but also hope,
00:15:31a way out, and a future.
00:15:33On April 12th...
00:15:38"almost exactly at these moments
00:15:42the former prime minister,
00:15:44fearing failure, also spoke
00:15:48in his video about the stakes
00:15:51of this election and threatened the
00:15:55voters, if they made the wrong decision,
00:15:58he said, then war would come,
00:16:02ruin would come, disaster
00:16:05would come.
00:16:07This threat was only the last in that
00:16:11long, long line, with which he had been trying
00:16:14to corner the Hungarians in despair
00:16:16for months, years, and keep them in
00:16:19fear.
00:16:23Since the Orbán government had no visible results,
00:16:27apart from ruining the Hungarian economy,
00:16:30gazdaságot,
00:16:32impoverishing almost everyone except its own
00:16:36oligarchs. It offended every social group,
00:16:40profession, age group, person,
00:16:43betrayed every sector and settlement.
00:16:47That's why only incitement to hatred, the desperate
00:16:51attempt, the apocalypse,
00:16:54the threat of the end of the
00:16:57world remained.
00:16:59He threatened people that if they voted badly,
00:17:03that is, if they did not maintain the corrupt, evil, cruel
00:17:07"power that impoverished millions of Hungarians, then
00:17:11forced conscription would come, the cat tax would come,
00:17:15nuclear war would come. It didn't come,
00:17:18none of it came.
00:17:21But before I turn to what happened
00:17:24instead of the ridiculous and pathetic
00:17:27bogeyman painted on the wall,
00:17:31it is worth reminding ourselves of that
00:17:33day, because what happened on April 12th
00:17:37was much, much more than a Tisza
00:17:41victory, or indeed the fall
00:17:44of the Orbán regime, more than a regime change, and certainly
00:17:48more than what the representatives of the fallen
00:17:51power still sitting here, or the desperately
00:17:55fumbling former NER oligarchs, or
00:17:59the downtown pundits, the always hindsight-wise,
00:18:02believe or understand. April
00:18:0612th. Not so
00:18:10long ago, until April 12th, there was
00:18:13a small group in Hungary, locked in paranoia,
00:18:17conspiracy theories,
00:18:19cognitive dissonance, the NER barons,
00:18:22the landlords, the oligarchs,
00:18:25Janissaries, and their servants.
00:18:29A narrow group
00:18:32who truly, truly believed that
00:18:35threatening the Hungarian people and spending
00:18:39billions of public money on campaigns
00:18:43would be enough, for which their more
00:18:46unfortunate colleagues are now spending
00:18:49their well-deserved rest in less comfortable places. They
00:18:52thought that perpetual lying,
00:18:56giant hate-mongering billboards, lying
00:18:59about numbers, crushing the weak and
00:19:02ignoring them, dispossessing poor people
00:19:06and enriching cronies would be enough to allow them
00:19:10to continue destroying Hungary.
00:19:13tönkretételét,
00:19:15And then, and then they met the Hungarian
00:19:19people, with the courage,
00:19:21wisdom, and
00:19:23patriotism
00:19:25of the Hungarian people. In their boundless
00:19:28arrogance, they didn't think
00:19:31of the most important thing, which everyone
00:19:33knows who even a little bit knows
00:19:37Hungary. That the Hungarian people
00:19:41are brave. This nation, every single
00:19:44citizen, is the heir to revolutions and wars
00:19:48of independence, 1848 and
00:19:511956. Anyone who thinks
00:19:54that they can be intimidated in the long run, silenced,
00:19:58threatened without consequences,
00:20:01knows nothing about the Hungarian
00:20:04people. "He knows
00:20:08nothing about Hungarian
00:20:09history.
00:20:12He doesn't know that the Hungarian people
00:20:15are wise, much, much
00:20:18wiser, much, much more attentive, much,
00:20:20much more knowledgeable than any
00:20:24elite, propagandist, bread-and-butter
00:20:27politician, hanger-on, lackey,
00:20:31kept man, treasury optimism,
00:20:34distorted reality of any side.
00:20:39The Hungarian people knew exactly that the fallen
00:20:43cronies had driven Hungary
00:20:47into a wall and plundered it.
00:20:50Because they bore the burden of this, and
00:20:54most importantly, what they also
00:20:56forgot was that the Hungarian people
00:21:00love their homeland. This is the strength that, esteemed
00:21:03colleagues, you should learn for a lifetime
00:21:07from the Hungarian people:
00:21:11that nothing is stronger than the patriotism of the Hungarian
00:21:14people. It cannot be bought, it cannot be silenced.
00:21:18"The Hungarians' attachment
00:21:20to their homeland,
00:21:23is strong and
00:21:26enduring. I know it's hard to get out
00:21:30of the old elite's comfort zone
00:21:33and get to know Hungary.
00:21:36We will do it for you. Just a week ago I visited
00:21:40Kisvárda. In the eyes of the people of Kisvárda
00:21:43and the people of Szabolcs who traveled
00:21:46there, we saw tears of joy, because their homeland
00:21:50is liberated, and now their narrower homeland
00:21:53as well. I wish all representatives,
00:21:56government party members and opposition members, to
00:21:59see and understand these
00:22:01feelings, what it means to love
00:22:04this country, to truly
00:22:06love it. Because, esteemed colleagues, the
00:22:10Hungarian people know this, and
00:22:13they feel it. Esteemed House,
00:22:17on April 12th. At these
00:22:20moments, Viktor Orbán still sent one last
00:22:24message, made one last feeble attempt
00:22:28to blackmail this brave, wise,
00:22:31patriotic nation.
00:22:32And what happened
00:22:36then? The next message was sent to
00:22:40me. Just a few hours
00:22:43later, a few minutes after
00:22:469 PM, my phone rang.
00:22:50"The same man who just a few hours earlier
00:22:54was stamping his feet, blackmailing,
00:22:56threatening, that same man was forced
00:23:00to congratulate Tisza and Hungary
00:23:12on their victory. I answered him that I
00:23:16accept the congratulations on behalf of our homeland, Hungary.
00:23:21"Esteemed colleagues, esteemed House,
00:23:25I consider this distinction very important.
00:23:28I accepted the congratulations not on behalf of Tisza,
00:23:32but on behalf of Hungary, because on April 12th,
00:23:35not Tisza won, but our homeland. I deeply
00:23:38believe that if even one
00:23:41representative of the Fidesz KDNP faction sitting here
00:23:44understood this difference,
00:23:47or if our homeland,
00:23:51functioning as a life raft
00:23:54and sidecar for the fallen
00:23:56elite, would at the same time
00:23:59advance the fate of the homeland and the
00:24:02follow, those KATA payers who also if they understood,
00:24:05if they realized to the work of the Parliament.
00:24:10not facing Tisza, not facing
00:24:13me, but the millions of freedom-loving
00:24:17Hungarians, then they would understand
00:24:22what is happening to them, and they could finally confront
00:24:24what they have done to the
00:24:27country.
00:24:29Fellow countrymen, I think it is important
00:24:32to recall all this because I know that the elemental
00:24:36and uplifting love of freedom,
00:24:40joy, euphoria,
00:24:43and anticipation
00:24:45that erupted on April 12th
00:24:48obliges all It obliges us to
00:24:52work faster than any previous
00:24:54government, more bravely and honestly
00:24:58for them every day of the week,
00:25:02and every hour of the
00:25:04day. We try to meet
00:25:08this with the deepest humility.
00:25:11We know, we know precisely, that six
00:25:14months cannot be compared to 16
00:25:17years. We know that we also need to build
00:25:20alongside the ruins, we know that the social
00:25:24injustices deliberately and maliciously created
00:25:28by the Orbán government cannot wait to be
00:25:30remedied, and we also know that finally, debate,
00:25:33public discourse, and public speech are free, and
00:25:37that all our decisions and actions are watched
00:25:40with great attention. We thank you for this
00:25:43attention, for the activity,
00:25:46curiosity, and energy with which
00:25:50the Hungarian people follow public life today, because
00:25:53this is one of the most important steps on the road to
00:25:57our country's recovery, that our decisions are not
00:26:00instructions or threats,
00:26:03"but rather steps that open up criticism, debate,
00:26:06and even meaningful debate in the interest
00:26:09of Hungary. For us, and for Hungary,
00:26:13this attention is a strength, because it
00:26:16shows that this country can no longer be fooled,
00:26:19harmed, or humiliated.
00:26:23And we also know that it is precisely
00:26:27those who are shouting and
00:26:31wailing and groaning from whom
00:26:34we inherited this system. I can only tell them again,
00:26:38shame on you.
00:26:41It is a shame that those people who are
00:26:44personally, politically, in every
00:26:47sense responsible for the plundering
00:26:50of our country, the still free
00:26:53members of Lőrinc Mészáros's faction, are now suddenly concerned
00:26:57about the renewed expansion of the KATA tax.
00:27:03KATA, comrades,
00:27:05and are you worried about
00:27:09the wealth tax on billionaires, lobbying
00:27:12against it in alliance with the oligarchs?
00:27:16Who was it so important for that ordinary
00:27:20working people should chip in for the luxury
00:27:23trips, yachts, private jets,
00:27:26castles, and manorial
00:27:28estates of the NER hussars? And you,
00:27:33"You are worried, wailing, about
00:27:35the media, the freedom of the public
00:27:39media. You, understand, those
00:27:42who are worried about the freedom of the public
00:27:45media, speaking on the public media platforms,
00:27:49who prevented us, as representatives,
00:27:52with security guards from speaking for even
00:27:56five minutes to the Hungarian people in the two
00:28:00years before the election?"
00:28:02How pathetic and repulsive it
00:28:06is that the megaphone, the public
00:28:09money-guzzling news fakers, who for
00:28:135-6 million forints a month slandered and humiliated
00:28:16others, spread fear and hatred,
00:28:20are now with serious faces worried about
00:28:23the freedom of the press and crying out voluntarily.
00:28:27Don't you find this pathetic and ridiculous,
00:28:30dear Fidesz and KDNP representatives?
00:28:34You are worried about arbitrariness.
00:28:38I have a riddle for you, if you look up from
00:28:41your phone for a moment, who could be that
00:28:44legendary Fidesz propagandist,
00:28:48who could be that world-famous anatomy expert,
00:28:52about whom it turned out last week,
00:28:55during the auditing of the public
00:28:58money-guzzling Kekvák, that he is still hiding on a
00:29:03background institution's payroll,
00:29:05and in the meantime, he is producing false
00:29:09defamatory content against the
00:29:13government with state money? Well, who
00:29:16could it be?
00:29:18I'll help you, his name begins
00:29:21with Deák, he's an expert,
00:29:25and it ends with Dániel. Esteemed
00:29:27colleagues, the financial
00:29:31and social damage we face
00:29:34is enormous, but we came here
00:29:37to do the work necessary for Hungary's
00:29:40development, for the creation of a functioning and
00:29:44humane Hungary. The 16 years of
00:29:47the Orbán regime had a very
00:29:50clear, cruel, and utterly
00:29:53unjust logic towards millions of Hungarian
00:29:56people. Very many people paid so
00:30:00that very few could get rich.
00:30:03"It's as simple as one and one. The
00:30:06burdens were spread across the entire Hungarian
00:30:09society, and the profits were taken home by a few.
00:30:13When it was time to pay, every Hungarian person had to
00:30:16pay. When sacrifices had to be made, sacrifices
00:30:20were demanded from every Hungarian family. But when it was
00:30:23possible to share in the fruits of our common work,
00:30:27it was always the same few families, the same
00:30:29few oligarchs, the same
00:30:33"chosen ones", the same people who
00:30:36rubbed shoulders with power, seeking the favor of the fallen prime minister,
00:30:40who were at the front of the
00:30:44system was rejected by the Hungarian
00:30:47people on April 12th,
00:30:50they chased it away. And we received
00:30:53the mandate to fundamentally
00:30:55change things. The enrichment of a few,
00:30:59or more precisely, their enrichment,
00:31:02will be replaced by the prosperity of many. This is the idea
00:31:06that determines our economic
00:31:09policy, our social policy, our tax
00:31:12policy, and our budgetary decisions.
00:31:15Next week we will
00:31:18present Hungary's 2027
00:31:20budget. Our goal is clear
00:31:24and straightforward: to compile a budget of justice
00:31:28and development. We are working to
00:31:31ensure that more goes to many,
00:31:35so that everyone has a chance to prosper. Even in the
00:31:39smallest village, in the mud hut
00:31:42at the end of the village.
00:31:45In the past 16 years, not only were public funds
00:31:48distributed unfairly, but also opportunities,
00:31:51security, and faith in the future.
00:31:54There were a few, privileged ones,
00:31:58janissaries, the oligarchs,
00:32:01who received all the help, and there were
00:32:04many, the masses, millions
00:32:07of Hungarian people, who received little or
00:32:09nothing. There were a few whose
00:32:13enrichment was supported by more and more
00:32:16state subsidies, and there were many
00:32:19who, despite working
00:32:22their whole lives, despite raising
00:32:25their children, despite paying their taxes
00:32:28honestly, still lived from one month
00:32:32to the next. With the budget of justice
00:32:36and development,
00:32:38the fruits of the country's prosperity will finally
00:32:41reach those who have so far only paid the price.
00:32:45"Those who were left behind by the previous
00:32:48government will also have a chance to rise. We are working
00:32:52on a budget that does not forget
00:32:55healthcare professionals, social workers,
00:32:59child protection
00:33:02personnel, educational support
00:33:06staff, or even those working
00:33:08in public collections, and yes,
00:33:11it provides assistance to impoverished pensioners,
00:33:15families in difficult situations,
00:33:18small entrepreneurs, and young people as well. We cannot,
00:33:22we cannot, and we do not want to
00:33:25distribute gifts. Unlike the Orbán government,
00:33:28we do not have favorite social groups,
00:33:32we do not have favorites. We do not divide the country
00:33:36into those to whom we give everything, and those
00:33:40to whom we give nothing. We are working
00:33:44on a disciplined, stable, and sustainable
00:33:47budget, because the Orbán government almost
00:33:50plunged the country into economic and financial
00:33:53ruin, with a record deficit,
00:33:56misrepresented budget items,
00:34:00industrial-scale theft, wasteful spending,
00:34:04irresponsibility, and a good dose of
00:34:06dilettantism.
00:34:08This is now over. We will manage every
00:34:12forint of public money responsibly, we will
00:34:15examine every state and ministerial expenditure twice,
00:34:19but preferably four times, and we will save
00:34:23as much as possible on the operation of the
00:34:26state. Instead of supporting the chosen large
00:34:30entrepreneurs in the economy, the billionaires living off
00:34:34political connections, the oligarchs fattened
00:34:37by state money, we will direct the country's
00:34:40resources towards strengthening Hungarian
00:34:44small and medium-sized enterprises. Towards those people who have been working
00:34:48for decades, creating jobs, paying
00:34:50taxes, taking risks,
00:34:54supporting families, and who until now
00:34:57had to start with a disadvantage in their
00:35:00own country against the chosen ones of
00:35:04power. We see the strength of the Hungarian
00:35:08economy in the many honest Hungarian businesses
00:35:11that have carried this country on their backs,
00:35:15while the corrupt power distributed
00:35:18opportunities over their heads. For all this,
00:35:22we need to restart an economy that the
00:35:25Orbán government brought to a state of clinical
00:35:28death. By the end of their 16 years of
00:35:31government, they were not only distributing
00:35:34wealth unfairly, but they were able to show fewer
00:35:38and fewer results that could even be distributed
00:35:40or stolen. They consumed
00:35:43our future, the future of Hungarians,
00:35:47they squandered our opportunities, they
00:35:50wasted the country's wealth, and they left
00:35:52behind a stagnant, exhausted economy,
00:35:56deprived of the possibility of growth. This
00:35:59economy is what we must
00:36:03and will restart now. With investments
00:36:06that simultaneously help Hungarian businesses get
00:36:10started and produce tangible results for the
00:36:14country. We are launching a comprehensive housing
00:36:17program for Sándor which will create job opportunities as long
00:36:21as the investment lasts, and then provide
00:36:24homes, housing, and dormitories across
00:36:28the country. retention program, for years
00:36:31this work should have been started years ago. We are
00:36:35years late, but that cannot
00:36:37be an excuse. The work ahead of us is a huge
00:36:40challenge, but also a huge opportunity.
00:36:44Here we stand, in perhaps the most dramatic
00:36:48drought-stricken year in Hungarian
00:36:51there is no doubt that we must act, but a large-scale
00:36:54program will not only protect our waters, our fertile
00:36:57lands, but also provide work and tasks for
00:37:01Hungarian companies and Hungarian employees.
00:37:05With our Baross Gábor railway development program,
00:37:08in the next 10 years,
00:37:10we will spend 3550 billion forints on the modernization
00:37:14of the Hungarian railway.
00:37:17We will renovate railway tracks, build new
00:37:20ones, acquire new locomotives, railway
00:37:24cars and train sets.
00:37:28We will modernize stations, develop suburban and
00:37:31rural railway transport. This
00:37:34program also simultaneously means the revitalization of the
00:37:37Hungarian economy, the strengthening of Hungarian
00:37:40businesses, the creation of jobs, and the
00:37:44implementation of developments that have been
00:37:46postponed for decades. Ladies
00:37:50and gentlemen, Fidesz played Russian
00:37:53roulette with Hungary, in every sense of the word.
00:37:57The result of which was an infinitely unjust,
00:38:01crumbling economy, a Fidesz-style
00:38:04head start. It is not easy, it is not easy
00:38:08to get the country back on its feet from here, but we believe
00:38:12that if we jointly find the breakthroughs, if
00:38:15we do not pull the government, if
00:38:18we create transparent rules, if
00:38:20we listen to the voice of Hungarian businesses, if
00:38:23we pay attention to those for whose tax forints.
00:38:35This is what we are working for, and we will soon
00:38:39present and jointly
00:38:41this budget.
00:38:44Esteemed House, there is no
00:38:47question where we started from, nor is it a question where we want to go. From
00:38:51a country where many worked
00:38:54for the enrichment of a few, we want a Hungary.
00:38:58where everyone benefits from the results of our
00:39:01common work, where there is economic growth, and where
00:39:05Hungarian families, Hungarian
00:39:08employees, and Hungarian businesses
00:39:11share in this economic growth, where
00:39:14public money truly serves the common
00:39:17good, where the state works for the prosperity
00:39:21of many, and where the government uses its power
00:39:24for what it was authorized to do,
00:39:28"to make every Hungarian's life better,
00:39:31to try to make it better. This is the
00:39:34commitment we made on
00:39:36April 12th, and with every decision,
00:39:40every workday, and every measure
00:39:43of the past six months,
00:39:46we are striving to
00:39:48fulfill this commitment.
00:39:50My fellow citizens, six
00:39:53months ago, on April 12th,
00:39:58"I stood on the other side of the Danube
00:40:01with my colleagues and thousands of people, and spiritually
00:40:05with millions of Hungarians, behind us
00:40:08the Parliament, the world's most beautiful
00:40:11building. I think all of us
00:40:15will have moments from that night
00:40:17that we will be able to recall for the rest
00:40:20of our lives, the embraces,
00:40:24the joy that erupted from people, the love.
00:40:28"the street parties that erupted
00:40:30in many parts of the country, that
00:40:33feeling that all of us, every Hungarian,
00:40:37then on that day, in those
00:40:40moments, stood on the stage of history, of Hungarian history, and
00:40:44of course we will be able to recall
00:40:47the dance of birthday boy Minister Zsolt Hegedűs, God
00:40:51bless you, Minister
00:40:52sir."
00:40:59But let us also remember that
00:41:02I sent a clear message that night to the
00:41:06puppets of the Orbán regime.
00:41:09Some heard it and left,
00:41:13some did not want to hear it, but many of them have
00:41:17also left. And there is a third group,
00:41:21there are those who still do not want to hear,
00:41:25do not want to understand.
00:41:28"the message sent by millions of Hungarians on April
00:41:3112th,
00:41:34I say it with good intentions, learning from
00:41:38the mistakes of their predecessors.
00:41:42for an inglorious end. On Friday, we announced
00:41:46with Minister Dávid Vitézi that the Hungarian
00:41:48government was terminating the 337
00:41:51billion forint contract concluded
00:41:53for the construction of the Southern
00:41:56Circular Railway with Lőrinc Mészáros's
00:41:59company called Vhíd.
00:42:03Lőrinc Mészáros's faction's
00:42:06tobacco lobbyist representative, of course, immediately lied.
00:42:10Dear compatriots, the European Court of Auditors revealed
00:42:14serious
00:42:16irregularities and
00:42:19conflicts of interest in connection
00:42:22with this multi-hundred-billion-forint contract. Not
00:42:24the Hungarian, but the European
00:42:28Court of Auditors. The Hungarian State
00:42:32Audit Office had not a word
00:42:35to say about the theft of hundreds
00:42:39of billions just as the Hungarian State
00:42:42Audit Office had not a word to say about
00:42:45the illegal Fidesz-style
00:42:49party and campaign financing,
00:42:52and of course for years it had not a word
00:42:56to say about the hundreds of billions stolen
00:42:59from the foundations of the Hungarian National Bank.
00:43:03How could it have, since the
00:43:06President of the Hungarian, not the European, Court of Auditors, Matolcsy
00:43:09György, was the deputy during the
00:43:12looting of the Hungarian National Bank, and
00:43:16now here is Mészáros's Vélhíd,
00:43:19the company of the failed prime minister's
00:43:23henchman, his private treasurer. Now
00:43:27that it has come out that Mészáros
00:43:30supported Megafon with at least 4.5 billion
00:43:33forints, Mr. Szűcs's former
00:43:36workplace, which means, dear
00:43:38fellow representatives, through the public
00:43:42money stolen from us and passed
00:43:45through the bridge, we, Hungarian taxpayers, paid not only
00:43:49for Fidesz oligarchs, but also
00:43:52for Fidesz smear campaigns,
00:43:55and we paid for Fidesz propaganda
00:43:57as well, and the head of the
00:44:01Hungarian State Audit Office, for 8-9 million
00:44:05forints a month, has not a word
00:44:09to say about this, why? Probably
00:44:11because that is exactly why Orbán
00:44:14put him in that position, to keep quiet
00:44:18as long as possible, and in this he has already
00:44:22proven himself, because if anyone has any doubts about
00:44:25the abilities of the ASZ president, it is worth
00:44:29recalling that he was the vice-president of
00:44:32the Hungarian National Bank during the creation
00:44:36of the legendary MNB foundations, which resulted
00:44:40in the disappearance of hundreds of billions of forints,
00:44:43and at the start of the money drain.
00:44:47He skillfully assisted in that, just as
00:44:50he skillfully assisted, as ASZ president, in the
00:44:54illegal party and campaign financing. Just
00:44:57as the other Orbán puppet, the head
00:45:00of the Economic Competition Authority, Csaba
00:45:03Rigó, did. Where was
00:45:05the GVH when the oligarchs of the Orbán
00:45:09regime were dividing among themselves
00:45:12a significant part of state investments?
00:45:15Where was the famous
00:45:17competition authority, when Hungarian businesses
00:45:21repeatedly found themselves facing
00:45:24the same billionaires? How could it happen that
00:45:28finally the European Court of Auditors had
00:45:31to expose, for example, the public
00:45:35procurement irregularities of a several
00:45:37hundred billion forint Hungarian railway investment?
00:45:41In short, corruption.
00:45:43We read this morning that
00:45:46the GVH now, five, six, seven years later,
00:45:50after the government presented this case, has
00:45:54already launched a procedure. I think it's too
00:45:57late, as they say, "after the rain, a cloak."
00:46:00It should not be the government's job
00:46:04to make the president work, to spur
00:46:07the president who earns 8-9 million forints a month.
00:46:11It's time for Csaba Rigó to realize
00:46:14that his departure is also necessary
00:46:18to restore confidence in the institution.
00:46:21The president's deputy,
00:46:25Dr. László Back, has already done so. Mr.
00:46:28Presidents, it's time to leave, whether
00:46:31hand in hand or without, if not,
00:46:34we will help.
00:46:43Dear Fidesz and KDNP
00:46:46representatives, if you happen to look up from
00:46:50your phones, they will run out. Be careful,
00:46:53it is clearer than day that
00:46:56Fidesz's disastrous campaign, which led
00:46:59to your historical defeat, was financed
00:47:03with stolen money. It is clear, we know,
00:47:07it is demonstrable that you cheated.
00:47:11When you sit here in
00:47:14the world's most beautiful building, the temple of
00:47:18constitutionality, always remember, I wish.
00:47:22every moment you should remember what price you are
00:47:26sitting here for. Remember, Mr. Béla Radics, who is currently
00:47:30in the buffet, that your campaign failed
00:47:34miserably, but also remember,
00:47:36the chief tobacco lobbyist, Balázs
00:47:40Német, that your ridiculously
00:47:44disastrous campaign was financed
00:47:46with money stolen from the Hungarian
00:47:50people. Remember
00:47:53every current and future megaphone member here
00:47:56that you got rich and lied with money
00:48:00stolen from working Hungarians. Remember
00:48:03every day that at least
00:48:06half of the Fidesz-KDNP faction sitting
00:48:10here freely is illegitimate,
00:48:13because they gained their seats through
00:48:16illegal party and campaign financing, that is,
00:48:18through fraud.
00:48:31Dear fellow representatives, that is why I said
00:48:34on April 12th, and that is why I say
00:48:39regime change is not over, it was far from over
00:48:43on the night of the elections. As long
00:48:45as state institutions are led by leaders
00:48:49who serve the failed power
00:48:52instead of the Hungarian people, as long
00:48:56as the leaders of organizations created to control
00:48:59public funds do everything but protect public
00:49:03funds, then we have work to do,
00:49:07and we will complete this
00:49:09work. Esteemed House, dear
00:49:13compatriots, at home and abroad, exactly six
00:49:17months ago, on April 12th,
00:49:20I considered it important to also address
00:49:23Fidesz voters. Since then, there are fewer
00:49:28vote for their representatives who got here through
00:49:31fraud. To those who are
00:49:35afraid, and worried about the future,
00:49:38allow me to address them again
00:49:41today. Dear Fidesz
00:49:44compatriots, they lied to
00:49:47you, many times. There was no
00:49:51conscription, no atom war,
00:49:55your former leader
00:49:58abandoned you, and when your community
00:50:01needed him most,
00:50:04he was vacationing, resting,
00:50:07traveling, and from America
00:50:10or Ireland he ordered one of his
00:50:12lackeys to post something good,
00:50:16something black and white, something frightening
00:50:18about tyranny. I want to repeat again,
00:50:22"and if necessary, I will repeat
00:50:25it a thousand times, I, we have no dispute
00:50:28with Fidesz voters, and I consider it my
00:50:32responsibility to represent you too,
00:50:35as the Prime Minister of Hungary.
00:50:38This wonderful country is the homeland of
00:50:42all of us, and never,
00:50:46ever again should anyone feel that
00:50:50they are a second-class citizen just because
00:50:53they live in a settlement whose leader is from the opposition,
00:50:57or has an opinion that differs from
00:51:01that of the power, the government, or works in a sector
00:51:04that someone is already sharpening their teeth
00:51:07on. This is over,
00:51:10we are one country, all of us,
00:51:14in our complexity, our disagreements, our
00:51:18different goals and values, our
00:51:21future is shared. "And as long as I am
00:51:24the Prime Minister of this country,
00:51:27there will never, ever be a moment
00:51:31when anyone who shares the fate of this country,
00:51:35within or beyond its borders,
00:51:38supports any party, community,
00:51:41or person, should feel like
00:51:45a second-class citizen. This government will represent
00:51:48him too, it will never abandon him.
00:51:53"It works for him too, and it will not
00:51:56allow it to happen again that this
00:52:00brave, wise, patriotic nation
00:52:03is divided, blackmailed, or
00:52:06plundered. Dear
00:52:08compatriots, for me, the past six
00:52:12months have been one of the most uplifting
00:52:16and difficult Uplifting because
00:52:19I work for this country, and at the
00:52:22same time dramatic, dramatic to realize
00:52:25that the legacy left to us reveals an order of
00:52:29magnitude greater evil,
00:52:33corruption,
00:52:35than I could ever have imagined,
00:52:38but I am proud of it, I am proud
00:52:41that every tentacle,
00:52:45every tentacle that we cut off the octopus,
00:52:48is new support for Hungarians, the reduction
00:52:51of firewood, the reduction of firewood, the school
00:52:55starting allowance, the pension increase, and many
00:52:58of our decisions, in just six months,
00:53:01showed that on April 12th..."
00:53:05it was not simply Tisza that won,
00:53:08the Hungarian people took back their
00:53:11homeland, the Hungarian
00:53:14became a free, empowered nation,
00:53:17and as Dániel Berzsenyi said,
00:53:21a free people does wonders.
00:53:24Thank you for
00:53:26listening.
00:53:45Many in the Fidesz parliamentary group believe that Hungarian
00:53:49voters were given a mandate to play Russian roulette.
00:53:51We wish them good
00:53:53work, good luck, and we continue our work.
00:53:57Esteemed National Assembly, after the Prime Minister's speech
00:54:00exceeded 20 minutes, the leaders of the parliamentary
00:54:04groups have eight minutes to deliver
00:54:07their contributions.
00:54:10I draw your attention to the fact that in response
00:54:13to the Prime Minister's speech before the agenda,
00:54:16the leaders of the opposition parliamentary groups may speak
00:54:19in ascending order After that,
00:54:23the leader of the ruling party's parliamentary
00:54:26group will speak. According to the rules of
00:54:29procedure, only the faction leaders and
00:54:32their deputies may speak
00:54:37in response to the Prime Minister's speech before the agenda. I ask the faction leaders or their deputies who wish
00:54:41to speak to indicate their intention
00:54:44by pressing the button now.
00:54:48Thank you. Esteemed National Assembly, on behalf
00:54:51of the Mi Hazánk parliamentary group,
00:54:54I give the floor to Mr. László Toroczkai, faction
00:54:57leader, for an eight-minute timeframe.
00:55:01Thank you for the floor, Madam Speaker.
00:55:04Mr. Prime Minister, there was nothing new,
00:55:08we saw and heard the same thing for 45 minutes,
00:55:11which we have become accustomed to. You spoke mostly about
00:55:15the past 16 years, of which
00:55:18you spent 14 years at the top of
00:55:22this system called Fidesz, or the NER system,
00:55:26and we heard much less about what
00:55:29work you did in the past six months, or what Hungarian employees
00:55:33can expect, what Hungarian businesses
00:55:37can expect, and what the rule of law and the
00:55:40restoration of the rule So I would
00:55:43like to talk about that instead of you, and in addition
00:55:47to that, perhaps it's no surprise that you talked a lot
00:55:50about yourself, about your feelings, about how
00:55:54you experienced these past two years, how uplifting it is
00:55:57Don't react, Mr. Prime Minister, but we are not interested
00:56:01in that. You know what we are interested in? We are interested
00:56:05in how you truly intend to establish the rule of
00:56:09law, how you intend to create a better country,
00:56:12and I would specifically ask you not to speak
00:56:15on behalf of every Hungarian, because you just did
00:56:19that, you said what you see in the eyes of the Hungarian
00:56:23people. Imagine, not only you travel the country,
00:56:26I also travel the country, not only you sometimes
00:56:29travel by public transport, or Dávid Vitézi, or say by a
00:56:33budget airline, so I also meet people, and imagine,
00:56:37completely different types of people come to me,
00:56:40who say completely different things, in whose eyes,
00:56:44for example, there is concern, who are concerned about
00:56:47the situation of the rule of law, or who are
00:56:49concerned about their jobs, who are,
00:56:53let's say, concerned about the situation of
00:56:56and I must say that they are right,
00:57:00And during the 45 minutes,
00:57:04in addition to criticizing Fidesz, there was also
00:57:07a sentence about Mi Hazánk, not much,
00:57:10but a sentence, so I would like to set
00:57:13that straight as well. You said that Mi Hazánk
00:57:17is operating as a sidecar to Fidesz,
00:57:20if I remember correctly. In the past few days,
00:57:23they have lied incredibly disgustingly about Mi Hazánk,
00:57:27because the news in the past few days was about
00:57:30István Gyöngyösi, the vice-chairman of the investigation
00:57:33committee I lead, who posted on Facebook - I cannot
00:57:37even correct the lie there yet, I still
00:57:41don't have a Facebook page - with my
00:57:44photo, that Mi Hazánk is helping to ensure
00:57:48that Viktor Orbán, the Prime Minister, cannot be summoned before
00:57:51the relevant investigation committee, because at the
00:57:55session of the investigation committee investigating
00:57:58the pardon case, Novák Előd voted against inviting
00:58:02him, meaning he voted against compelling Viktor Orbán to make a personal
00:58:06statement. Please wait, I will finish soon.
00:58:09"It is true that Novák Előd voted
00:58:13against inviting Viktor Orbán.
00:58:15I would have voted differently,
00:58:19you see. But laugh, laugh, because maybe
00:58:22you don't know, but the big situation
00:58:26is that not only did it happen that,
00:58:29for example, at the session of the investigation
00:58:33committee investigating the systemic situation,
00:58:36the crisis of child protection, where the
00:58:39Tisza president suggested summoning
00:58:42Viktor Orbán, it was Barnabás
00:58:45Létei who did not
00:58:47vote for this. But that was not the
00:58:51only thing that happened, and it was no accident
00:58:54that I mentioned Deputy Chairman István Gyöngyösi,
00:58:58who lied with my photo
00:59:02and deflected regarding Viktor Orbán's
00:59:05summons. At the session of the investigation
00:59:09committee investigating executive abuses,
00:59:12which I lead, the following happened:
00:59:15This summer, I prepared a list of 53
00:59:19names whom I wanted to compel to give statements.
00:59:23And do you know who did not vote for it?
00:59:26The three Tisza party representatives did not
00:59:29vote for the summons of Viktor Orbán and Ferenc Gyurcsány,
00:59:33former Prime Ministers. Because of them,
00:59:36I cannot summon Viktor Orbán or Ferenc
00:59:39Gyurcsány. They gave the professional
00:59:42argument, and then on the list of over
00:59:4560 names they submitted a few weeks ago,
00:59:49which largely includes the names I also
00:59:53wrote down, they again omitted Viktor
00:59:57Orbán and Ferenc Gyurcsány, and argued that
01:00:00it was because it was not professionally
01:00:03justified, rather the Ministry of Justice
01:00:06should be summoned and heard. So
01:00:10this is exactly what happened, in contrast to what
01:00:13István Gyöngyösi posted with my photo, that
01:00:16it was the Tisza party members who voted
01:00:20against summoning former prime ministers. They didn't
01:00:23say this, they are constantly deflecting and lying,
01:00:26Mr. Prime Minister, about the Mi Hazánk movement. But
01:00:30what is the problem? The problem is that
01:00:34the wage increases or even family allowance
01:00:38increases you promised are not happening,
01:00:41and that is why they are talking around the issue,
01:00:45for example, about how
01:00:47it to eight years for my sake,
01:00:51that is exactly what I'm but each of them, after introducing themselves,
01:00:54are building a dictatorship, like some mini dictator.
01:00:58But that wasn't all, just last
01:01:01time, here in the plenary session, you threatened
01:01:05me." but that they would reduce
01:01:08with the fact that there was a laptop where Balázs Hankó was sitting,
01:01:12and it said that you will be next, and
01:01:15he pointed out that you could be next, here. During our debate, you know, if
01:01:19any representative does this, it's not a nice thing, but a
01:01:23prime minister with the two-thirds majority, and with that
01:01:25excessive power, by dismantling the system of checks and balances, which
01:01:29you are doing, you are making, the most dangerous and
01:01:33darkest future for Hungary, not for me, no, not for me,
01:01:36but for Hungary. You cannot do this
01:01:40and you cannot constantly abuse your power, you are not
01:01:42threatening, because you certainly did not receive any
01:01:46authorization for this, and "our compatriots are rightfully concerned, not just
01:01:49because of this, because of your behavior stemming from your character,
01:01:52but also because of what they are doing. What happened with this August
01:01:5620th fireworks display? We
01:01:59made, the Azák movement made, a complaint, perhaps you remember, and
01:02:03then you answered that the Ministry of Interior would investigate, which is quite
01:02:06ridiculous in a rule of law state, so they would investigate themselves,
01:02:10and that is what happened, which was expected
01:02:14in advance, the Ministry of Interior found
01:02:17everything in order, and did not even investigate whether there was an overpricing. Well,
01:02:21that's why we cannot trust you at any level.
01:02:24Then there was also the fact that I don't think it's right how, for example, the president
01:02:28of the MVWH' was elected,
01:02:31which is why we withdrew from the process of electing the vice-presidents,
01:02:35because we support the elimination of corruption, but
01:02:39we don't support what you are doing, putting your own people
01:02:42in such positions, like you decided about Anna Róza Unger in a
01:02:46smoke-filled room, you and let's say Bálint Ruff,
01:02:49you two decided that she would come there, and then she says things
01:02:53that make your hair literally stand on end,
01:02:57and now in connection with her own criminal case, she is threatening
01:03:00prosecutors again, even though the question is whether
01:03:04she took the phone of a voter, a citizen,
01:03:07threw it into the Danube, whether bouncers threw her out by the
01:03:10scruff of her neck, and do you really think this is not a
01:03:14criminal case? Do you think what you did is normal, and it's only the
01:03:18prosecutors or the police who are to blame? Thank you, Madam President.
01:03:20asszony,
01:03:26On behalf of the KDNP parliamentary group, I give the floor to Mr. Bence Rétvári,
01:03:30faction leader, for an eight-minute time limit.
01:03:33Please. Thank you for the floor, Madam President, esteemed House, esteemed
01:03:37fellow representatives, several of you started by saying who
01:03:41you met in the past few days. I met
01:03:43several Péter Magyars over the weekend, it was strange for me too,
01:03:47said that they asked us to work so that
01:03:51when they introduce themselves, not everyone thinks of the Prime Minister of Hungary,
01:03:54because they feel extremely uncomfortable because of this, and
01:03:58they trust that this situation
01:04:00will end as soon as possible, if only because, if only because
01:04:03you were supposed to give a report on the past
01:04:07six months, you were supposed to tell
01:04:11what you did for the Hungarian people in the past
01:04:14six months, and instead we heard the same thing
01:04:18again as always, you always only dealt with Fidesz
01:04:21KDMP, you dealt with Viktor Orbán, you dealt with Lőrinc Mészáros,
01:04:25and that's why, that's why we can tell in advance what you will
01:04:28talk about, we can check in advance what your words
01:04:31will be, because you simply don't talk about your own
01:04:34governance, you are still stuck in the past, you are still the opposition's
01:04:38opposition, you are still only dealing with attacking the opposition
01:04:41and attacking the previous government, and this is already visible in economic
01:04:45figures, in rising unemployment, in
01:04:48closing factories, and this is already visible
01:04:51in economic data as well, whether you look at tourism, or any other
01:04:55area, you tried to say about the past six months
01:04:58that there are the many, and there are the few, and you represent the many
01:05:02against the few. Well, tell me, Mr. Prime Minister,
01:05:06which year out of the past years was it when you were not
01:05:10among the few, or did not want to be among the few? Well,
01:05:13that's why you wanted to be among the few, that's why you looked for
01:05:17Lőrinc Mészáros, so you could be among the few, that's why you created your own
01:05:20position at the permanent representation in Brussels, so
01:05:23you could be among the few. That's why you wanted to get as close as
01:05:27possible to Viktor Orbán, at events,
01:05:30at sports matches, so you could be among the few, that's what you constantly
01:05:33strived for, to be as close as possible to Viktor Orbán, to be as close as possible to Lőrinc
01:05:37Mészáros, both legally and physically, so that the few
01:05:40could be among the few, it wasn't about the many, I see
01:05:44obviously those who go on luxury safaris in Africa
01:05:48and have more than 80 properties can represent the many,
01:05:51surely they are the most credible representatives of the many, but for the many
01:05:55it would have been necessary for the price of petrol to remain at the
01:05:58protected price, and the price of diesel to remain at the protected price. For the many, it would have been necessary
01:06:02for you not to double the KATA tax. How many times did you talk about doubling the KATA
01:06:05tax in the campaign? Not once, you said it would be more favorable. For the many
01:06:09it would have been favorable, and not just for KATA taxpayers. You saw the various posts on
01:06:13Facebook from various small entrepreneurs about how their prices
01:06:16will increase due to the KATA changes, some by 1200 HUF, some by
01:06:201500 HUF, but the KATA doubling will certainly be passed on
01:06:23to those people who go to such small artisans,
01:06:26who work in the beauty industry, or elsewhere. And
01:06:30they will pass on the prices to the people. You represent the many. Well, which government
01:06:33was it that reduced the
01:06:37families, the already approved subsidies?
01:06:39In the home energy storage program,
01:06:42they reduced it from 2.5 million HUF to 1.8 million HUF. Which
01:06:46government dared to do this to many, that they won a subsidy for something, that they
01:06:50would modernize their homes, which is good for the country too, as they can store energy at home, and
01:06:53you are taking from these people. This is many thousands, or
01:06:57tens of thousands of people, who already... learned what retroactive effect is like, when their
01:07:00already approved and notified
01:07:04subsidies are taken away from them, you don't represent
01:07:07many, but few, and a good part of the
01:07:11few are foreign. Mr. Prime Minister, you spoke very little
01:07:14about how you made history in the past six
01:07:18months by being the first Hungarian prime minister
01:07:21to be accused as prime minister. That's a record, we can
01:07:25congratulate you on that, there has never been such a prime minister before, you didn't say a word,
01:07:29we see that from explanation to explanation, how you contradict
01:07:33yourself, one explanation contradicts the other.
01:07:36One time you say you were provoked,
01:07:40and you reacted to this provocation, then another time you say
01:07:44no, no, someone provoked girls, and then you
01:07:47stepped in like a knight, and you wanted to save those girls, well, we saw the
01:07:50videos of you staggering around Széchenyi Square in stained trousers, you think
01:07:54it was just a shadow on your trousers, obviously in the evening lights, this
01:07:57in the sunlight is obvious, but how can you, in this
01:08:01state, really saved girls and would do it again,
01:08:04well, that knight, that grand knight, that gentleman, who
01:08:08who protects ladies in a night club, is not thrown out
01:08:11by the scruff of his neck from the night club. As many
01:08:14sentences as you say, so many contradict each other, because the whole thing is a huge
01:08:18spiral of lies, and that's why you got into this situation, and
01:08:22then you say that you expect the
01:08:24prosecutor's office not to file charges, for the whole
01:08:28procedure to stop at the prosecutor's stage, when it comes to the election of the
01:08:32chief prosecutor, you expect the chief
01:08:35prosecutor to drop these charges, and the
01:08:38suitable chief prosecutor is the one who will not file charges in court, because...
01:08:42you said at a public press conference that you would not like to see charges
01:08:46filed, because if charges are filed, and possibly theft, due to the violence that
01:08:50the crown witness said he used against him, if it is changed to robbery
01:08:53during the procedure, then you could lose your prime ministerial
01:08:57position and your parliamentary mandate as well, and at this critical
01:09:00moment, when there is a chief prosecutor election, and the first candidate
01:09:04for chief prosecutor has already been rejected, you are expressing
01:09:07such public expectations as prime minister towards the
01:09:10prosecutor's office, about what the prosecutor's office should and should not do.
01:09:14This is clearly influencing a completely, a
01:09:17completely independent organization from the government, the
01:09:20prosecutor's office, and the whole fairytale, as if you were the
01:09:24victim, you, who according to witnesses and videos
01:09:27really behaved violently, crawled
01:09:30on all fours between the thighs of teenage girls on the
01:09:33ground, you want to pretend that you are
01:09:37protecting those young girls. This is at least as big a
01:09:41fairytale as when you said that you praised an old lady's jam bread
01:09:44and apple strudel, so she signed her apartment over to you, and that's how you got
01:09:48a property in Buda. Few, few will believe these fairytales,
01:09:51Mr. Prime Minister, however, I suggest that you be careful
01:09:55when letting the Tisza ministers and representatives out into the corridor, because
01:09:59they will report on how you keep them on a short leash,
01:10:02and how, how
01:10:06four ministers in your portfolio have really reached the brink of
01:10:09collapse, some even running out of government meetings crying, because they cannot
01:10:12tolerate the style that you practice, and some have a past
01:10:16that makes this style unacceptable for many. But
01:10:20I would like to ask you a very serious question: Here is the Minister of Education,
01:10:23Minister Lannert, you are also preparing for
01:10:26constitution-making, there was constitution-making before, then
01:10:29Minister Lannert expressed her opinion in an article about
01:10:33abortion and the protection of life, and
01:10:36she wrote that there are children who would be born into unsuitable
01:10:39circumstances,
01:10:43families, and these are not adequately prepared families, and she said that
01:10:46in these cases, it may be justified to perform
01:10:50an abortion. She would make a decision
01:10:53about a fetus based on its parents'
01:10:56lifestyle, she says these children will become criminals
01:10:59who will kill others, and this way the population will
01:11:03shrink. Making a decision
01:11:06about a human life based on origin, about a human
01:11:09life based on origin,
01:11:12outrages everyone, and your Minister for Children's Affairs,
01:11:15your Minister for Children's Affairs
01:11:18shared such a line of thought with the wide Hungarian
01:11:21public, citing American studies as a kind of
01:11:24justification, that yes, if there are more abortions, then
01:11:28crime will be lower, and crime should be fought with more abortions.
01:11:32Can you associate yourself with such a Minister for Children's Affairs,
01:11:35who thinks this way about fetuses of a few centimeters,
01:11:38that because of their parents, because of their parents' lifestyle,
01:11:42she would deny them the right to life? Shouldn't every child rather be given the opportunity
01:11:45to develop their abilities? Can you agree with such a line of thought? Thank you
01:11:49very much.
01:11:51a
01:12:02On behalf of the Fidesz parliamentary group, I give the floor to Mr. János Bóka,
01:12:06faction leader, for an eight-minute time limit.
01:12:09Please.
01:12:12Thank you for the floor, Madam President, esteemed House, elections were held
01:12:15six months ago, and the Tisza government
01:12:19was formed five months ago. The Tisza government
01:12:23would have had five months to
01:12:26govern, but this did not happen. Instead of governing,
01:12:30the Hungarian people received many other things. Let's see
01:12:33what the Hungarian people received instead of governing in the past
01:12:36five months. In the past five
01:12:39months, the Hungarian people received.
01:12:44Of these tax increases, some have already
01:12:47been implemented. The excise duty on tobacco products,
01:12:50for example, has already been raised,
01:12:53and they expect an additional 90 billion forints
01:12:56from this. This measure will come into
01:12:58force on November 1st. Everyone
01:13:02will then be able to experience how these will appear
01:13:05in consumer prices. You then said that this
01:13:09tax increase, because it is a tax increase,
01:13:12is a public health measure.
01:13:16Of course, we did not see any related public health
01:13:19measures. This is simply a
01:13:22tax increase, a budget
01:13:25surcharge. There are tax increases
01:13:28for which the government has already
01:13:32published its proposal and submitted it for public consultation.
01:13:35This includes the brutal increase of KATA.
01:13:37The tax of 13,800 self-employed KATA taxpayers
01:13:41will increase from 500 HUF to 10,000
01:13:44HUF. And you say that this is not a
01:13:48tax increase, it is a tax restructuring of KATA, but if
01:13:52you look at your own proposal for public consultation,
01:13:55it states in black and white that you expect
01:13:59an additional 60 billion forints in budget
01:14:02revenue from this, and this additional budget revenue will be paid
01:14:06by the Hungarian people. This is 60 billion
01:14:10forints of tax increase, and there are
01:14:13tax increases that are still
01:14:16pending, but probably not for long. The
01:14:20IMF delegation visited Hungary at the end of September,
01:14:23early October. The government agreed to
01:14:26publish the recommendations formulated by the IMF,
01:14:29which is certainly not a coincidence, as it happened a few
01:14:33weeks before the start of the debate on next year's budget.
01:14:36Therefore, it would probably be worth it for the government to clarify its stance on the
01:14:40IMF recommendations. The
01:14:43recommendations include the introduction of a progressive
01:14:47personal income tax. Here, of course, it is not
01:14:50about tax cuts, because the IMF itself says in its
01:14:54recommendations that it wants to achieve
01:14:57an increase in tax revenues with this. The recommendations
01:15:00also include the reduction of VAT exemptions and benefits,
01:15:04corporate tax increase, more aggressive taxation
01:15:07of capital gains, including, for example, the yield
01:15:11on government bonds, and it is completely
01:15:14obvious that this is happening in an economic environment
01:15:18where growth prospects at the European
01:15:22level are at least questionable. In Hungary, unemployment
01:15:26is rising, and in such an environment, a
01:15:29tax increase clearly reduces investment appetite,
01:15:32and a decrease in investment can lead to job
01:15:35losses, and here I would just briefly mention that the IMF
01:15:38is extremely creative and innovative
01:15:42in its wording regarding pensions as well, saying
01:15:44that the retirement age should be linked to the average
01:15:48life expectancy, which in Hungarian means raising the retirement
01:15:52age, and it also talks about narrowing the possibilities
01:15:56for early retirement with benefits. It does not mention
01:15:59women with 40 years of service, but perhaps the poet meant
01:16:03that. In addition, the Hungarian people received record-high
01:16:06fuel prices. Today's average prices
01:16:10for diesel are at 709
01:16:12HUF, and for 95 petrol at
01:16:15642 HUF. The solutions you offer
01:16:18leave families by the roadside,
01:16:22leave transporters by the roadside. "Leave
01:16:25farmers by the roadside. The opinion of the Hungarian Independent
01:16:29Transporters' Association is also quite devastating and
01:16:33categorical in this regard. The solutions you
01:16:36offer are not only inadequate, but
01:16:39also mistaken. You should take into account, and again I'm not
01:16:43saying this, but the Hungarian Independent Transporters' Association, that
01:16:46Hungary is on the brink of economic crisis, and
01:16:50you should be offering solutions to this impending
01:16:53economic crisis.
01:16:55You even refused to put our bill regarding
01:16:58protected prices on the agenda. We believe that
01:17:02there is no better solution on the table. Therefore, we are
01:17:05re-submitting this bill today, and we ask you
01:17:09to decide on putting it on the agenda. Instead of governing, the Hungarian
01:17:12people received factory closures,
01:17:16everyone knows the unemployment statistics. In one month,
01:17:20the number of unemployed increased by 7,000, and the number of employed
01:17:23decreased by more than 200,000. This is already a
01:17:26trend, since your government came to power, unemployment has increased
01:17:30from 4.2% to 4.5% and then
01:17:32to 4.7%. For women, unemployment already
01:17:36exceeds 5%. The period of full employment
01:17:39in Hungary has ended, and this pressure is not on large multinationals, but
01:17:43on SMEs. SMEs are under increasing economic
01:17:46pressure, human lives are being ruined, not
01:17:50here in the Parliament, but in Tószeg, Konyhád,
01:17:53Győr, Jászberény, Sárvár, and
01:17:57the prospects are not too rosy either, if we look at the construction
01:18:01industry, or tourism, or the order book, and investment appetite.
01:18:04The Hungarian people received expanding
01:18:08foreign companies instead of
01:18:11you are supporting the expansion of these foreign companies
01:18:14with favorable tax changes, by squeezing out Hungarian
01:18:18businesses, and with earmarked EU
01:18:21funds, and here again, I'm not only talking about large
01:18:24public procurements, it's worth looking at the
01:18:27Public Procurement Bulletin and seeing who won
01:18:30which public procurements in recent months, it's not an exaggeration to
01:18:34say that these are the first steps towards the re-colonization
01:18:37of Hungary. In Hungary, the Hungarian people received a political
01:18:41theater from you instead of governance, you received
01:18:45a new AVH, which
01:18:48covers up the reality, the lack of governance,
01:18:51you received a new
01:18:54AVH, which takes measures with minimal
01:18:57procedural guarantees and without judicial oversight,
01:19:00it can monitor and wiretap anyone,
01:19:04can get its hands on any income and company
01:19:07that has ever been connected to the state.
01:19:11My question is, what can the Hungarian
01:19:14people expect after five months of Tisza governance? Can they
01:19:18expect new tax increases?
01:19:22Can they finally expect real help against
01:19:28Can they expect real measures
01:19:31to protect jobs? These are the questions
01:19:34of today and tomorrow, and instead of
01:19:37wrestling with the past, the Hungarian people deserve to receive
01:19:41answers from you to the questions of today and tomorrow.
01:19:45Thank you.
01:19:46Köszönöm.
01:19:55On behalf of the Tisza parliamentary group, I give the floor to Ms. Viktória Strompová,
01:19:59Deputy Faction Leader, for an eight-minute time limit.
01:20:03Please. Madam President, esteemed
01:20:06Prime Minister, esteemed fellow representatives,
01:20:08képviselőtársaim,
01:20:11I am almost certain that the Prime Minister does not need
01:20:14my protection, he is capable of defending himself,
01:20:18however, the leader of our homeland faction
01:20:22mentioned that nobody cares about emotions,
01:20:26and I, however, think that
01:20:29emotions are important, because
01:20:32whether it's Péter Magyar, the Prime Minister of Hungary, he
01:20:36is also a human being. And we are building a humane
01:20:39Hungary.
01:20:46And speaking of emotions, as a female
01:20:48politician, not just me, but many others in this
01:20:51room, I think these things are important, and
01:20:55what did April 12th mean to me, six months
01:20:59ago, there in North Vas,
01:21:01Vas-2, one half of my heart
01:21:05was bleeding, the other half... "was
01:21:08in euphoric happiness,
01:21:11because I knew,
01:21:14I felt, and by evening it was proven that the
01:21:17Hungarian people chose their own country, their own
01:21:20homeland, they chose freedom,
01:21:24and this is more important than anything to me.
01:21:28As for the KDNP faction leader,
01:21:31and he mentioned that he traveled the country, and
01:21:34he met many Péter Magyars. "And as
01:21:37an honest man, and the name, well, the man I
01:21:41know, and Péter Magyar, I can say many things about him, but not that
01:21:45he is honest.
01:21:51I say to this, that if we go back to April
01:21:5512th, and one eye was crying, the other
01:21:58laughing, I believe and trust that, and I know
01:22:02very well that truth always finds
01:22:05its way, and
01:22:07and as the saying goes, there is a very beautiful Hungarian proverb, a liar
01:22:11is caught sooner than a lame dog, and
01:22:14I am sure that the truth and light will
01:22:18also come out regarding the events that happened there.
01:22:21derülni.
01:22:24Six months ago, the people of Hungary decided that they wanted
01:22:28change, and as the Prime Minister also put it, this
01:22:32decision was about much more than just changing a government,
01:22:35and what
01:22:38does this decision mean to us
01:22:40in our daily lives? What is it that six months ago was still
01:22:44a natural part of our lives, but today fortunately it is no
01:22:48longer? What do people perceive
01:22:50of this today? Change cannot only be measured in
01:22:53laws, decrees, and economic indicators, but also in
01:22:57how we feel in our country
01:23:00today, for example, in that the streets
01:23:03are no longer covered in "public money."
01:23:06közpénzből."
01:23:20"The transformation of public media ensuring that public service
01:23:24broadcasting truly represents the public's interests.
01:23:28But the change means much more
01:23:32than that. More and more people can feel that they can express
01:23:35their opinions, that they can freely participate in a
01:23:38demonstration, express their criticism of
01:23:41the government, and express their opinions without
01:23:45fear of consequences.
01:23:48This is especially important for
01:23:50those who in recent years may have felt that their
01:23:54political affiliation, origin, or simply
01:23:57because they love someone, were targeted.
01:24:01Today, many of them can look to the future
01:24:04with relief. We don't have to worry about being
01:24:08discriminated against because we are different
01:24:10from the majority. A country can only be
01:24:14truly free if all its citizens can live
01:24:18in it with equal dignity. Distinguished
01:24:20colleagues,
01:24:22I myself am experiencing a change that is particularly
01:24:25important to me. In recent months, I have sat down
01:24:29with many mayors to talk, and in these
01:24:32conversations, these mayors are opening up
01:24:36more and more. They honestly
01:24:38tell us what problems they are facing, what
01:24:42developments have been neglected, and what they really
01:24:44need. They don't have to worry that a
01:24:48critical sentence or a political difference of opinion will put
01:24:51their municipality at a disadvantage. It's a completely
01:24:54personal experience, it happened about two weeks
01:24:57ago, six mayors were sitting at that
01:25:00table when I told them,
01:25:04"Dear mayors and ladies, you don't have to
01:25:07love me, you don't have to flatter me,
01:25:11you don't have to keep me well." And
01:25:14one of the most honest reactions was,
01:25:17"Thank God."
01:25:22And we are providing not only mayors, but also citizens with greater
01:25:26say. People's opinions are important
01:25:28not only every four years at election time,
01:25:31but also between elections, every
01:25:35day. At the national level, one
01:25:38tool for this is the social consultation of
01:25:41legislative proposals, which provides an opportunity for
01:25:44people to express their opinions on the legal regulations that affect them. At the
01:25:48local level, the new St. Stephen's Land development program represents
01:25:52the same thing, in which residents themselves can propose
01:25:55developments and participate in their
01:25:58prioritization, because who would know better what a
01:26:02settlement needs than its inhabitants?
01:26:05Changes have also begun in the area of transparency and
01:26:09accountability. The National Asset Recovery and
01:26:13Asset Protection Office was established, whose task is
01:26:17to uncover abuses affecting public property and to enforce
01:26:22the goal is to make the path
01:26:25of public funds traceable, to make asset accumulation
01:26:29verifiable, and for irregularities to finally have consequences,
01:26:33but accountability cannot be limited to abuses
01:26:37of public funds, nor can it depend on which
01:26:40political side someone belongs
01:26:44to. Distinguished
01:26:46National Assembly, there are also encouraging
01:26:50developments in the economy. By September, inflation had
01:26:53moderated to 1.6%, which could mean a noticeable change
01:26:56for Hungarian families. Our task is to
01:27:00create a stable environment with a predictable
01:27:05families and businesses can plan their future
01:27:08more boldly. Meanwhile, we are also moving step by
01:27:11step with the implementation of the Tisza election program. In
01:27:15the program for a functioning and humane Hungary, we clearly
01:27:18articulated what changes we want to
01:27:21achieve.
01:27:23Distinguished colleagues, perhaps one of the most important
01:27:27questions for our common future is whether people will
01:27:31dare to initiate again, dare to ask
01:27:34questions, debate, criticize, stand up
01:27:37for themselves and for each other. If after
01:27:40half a year more and more people feel that they also
01:27:44have a role in shaping the country, then this is a
01:27:47change that is worth will work for
01:27:51this. Thank
01:27:52you for your attention.
01:28:00Distinguished National Assembly, I now give the floor to Prime
01:28:04Minister Péter Magyar. Please.
01:28:07Thank you for the floor, Madam President, distinguished
01:28:10House, distinguished
01:28:12compatriots,
01:28:16we have heard an even weaker and more
01:28:19powerless repetition of the previous lies
01:28:23from the faction leaders of Mi Hazánk, KDNP, and
01:28:27Fidesz, but I will
01:28:29naturally address them despite this. I will also try
01:28:33to answer where it is appropriate, but let
01:28:36me announce something much more important,
01:28:39which they also tried to lie about,
01:28:42to deny, KDMP and Fidesz representatives,
01:28:46but also Mi Hazánk, that there is no point
01:28:49in the political agreement concluded in three weeks
01:28:53after 10 years between the Hungarian government
01:28:56and Ukraine regarding the Hungarians
01:29:00in Transcarpathia, in contrast to this... distinguished
01:29:03colleagues, distinguished Hungarians both here and across the border,
01:29:07the Ukrainian parliament, the Rada, has in the last
01:29:10few minutes adopted the language law amendment
01:29:13that significantly improves minority. Thank you. Thank
01:29:38you very much. Thanks to this amendment, which has parts
01:29:41that come into force immediately after the presidential
01:29:45signature, and there are provisions that will come
01:29:49into force gradually over a few weeks or
01:29:52months, many thousands of Hungarian
01:29:56children, Hungarians living in smaller and larger
01:30:00settlements, Transcarpathian Hungarian children will be
01:30:03able to use their mother tongue. Hungarian
01:30:06educational institutions, state, church, or even foundation
01:30:09institutions will be able to operate more easily and
01:30:12freely. I see, I see President Toroczkai and the
01:30:16others showing sadness and shock, they didn't even dare
01:30:19to applaud when the situation of many thousands of our compatriots
01:30:23becomes easier, when it's not just about talking,
01:30:27not just about inciting hatred, which is what you
01:30:30do, but when there are
01:30:32You sat here for many millions of forints
01:30:36per month, claiming 7-10 million forints in expense
01:30:40reimbursements, stealing hundreds of billions of forints, and
01:30:44achieved nothing, absolutely nothing. The previous failed Prime Minister,
01:30:47Viktor Orbán, has not set foot in
01:30:50Transcarpathia once since 2010 or 2015,
01:30:54and has not been there once since the outbreak of the
01:30:58war. You did nothing but utter big words and tried
01:31:01to pit Hungarians abroad against Hungarians
01:31:05in the motherland, and instead of at least standing
01:31:08up, apologizing, or applauding the people,
01:31:12experts, diplomats, representatives of Hungarians abroad, or
01:31:16the Foreign Minister who worked on this, and achieved
01:31:19more in three weeks, not more, because zero multiplied
01:31:23by zero would just be zero, but almost everything that
01:31:26you could not achieve, you are still just making sad
01:31:30and doubting faces, this between true
01:31:33patriotic, national, call it whatever you want,
01:31:36governance, and the empty words of lies, pharisaism,
01:31:40and hypocrisy. Thank you to everyone who took
01:31:44part in drafting this agreement.
01:31:51Thank you to everyone, once again, who, whether from
01:31:55the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, or
01:31:58from the political representation of Transcarpathian
01:32:01of them, no matter how much you
01:32:05tried to incite hatred, no matter how much you
01:32:08tried to manipulate all the political
01:32:12organizations of the Transcarpathian Hungarians, the Transcarpathian Hungarian churches, whether
01:32:15it's Reformed, Greek Catholic, Roman
01:32:19Catholic, or the university leadership, everyone supported
01:32:22and read through this agreement to the last
01:32:25letter, and I also express my joy that
01:32:29it will be easier for our Transcarpathian Hungarian
01:32:32compatriots. Of course, this does not mean that
01:32:35this is the end of the road, as this agreement
01:32:38still has several points, but it can be said,
01:32:42it can be said that if the presidential signature
01:32:44takes place today or tomorrow, and this adopted
01:32:48law is published, then the Ukrainian side has
01:32:51fulfilled the amendment to the education law before
01:32:55the deadline, as according to the original agreement,
01:32:58the Rada should have adopted and implemented it by December
01:33:0231st. I think this is a good sign, although
01:33:05there is a lot to fix, because you, your failed
01:33:09boss, did a lot, sacrificed a lot, especially the
01:33:13safety and situation of Transcarpathian Hungarians, a
01:33:16lot still needs to be done for this relationship
01:33:20to be a better one, and for trust to be
01:33:24restored on both sides, but I think both
01:33:28countries' leaders have taken the first steps to resolve
01:33:31the situation, primarily, but not exclusively, for the
01:33:34sake of our Transcarpathian Hungarian brothers. Let me
01:33:38continue, honorable faction leader, honorable László
01:33:41Toroczkai, we saw a very nice attempt at
01:33:44escape from you. I see that the distancing
01:33:47is already happening, you tried to distance
01:33:50yourself from Novák Előd,
01:33:54but I think there is still something there from
01:33:58where it came from, I haven't heard
01:34:00publicly yet that you, the faction leader,
01:34:04president, eternal honorary everything of Mi Hazánk,
01:34:07would have distanced yourself, because
01:34:10you were worried about the rule of law here,
01:34:13we saw that you ran away from the music of
01:34:17the Gypsy children, we saw that you don't dare
01:34:20to admit it here, but wherever you go, you try
01:34:23to incite our compatriots, to distance yourself
01:34:26here in the Parliament from the local representatives
01:34:29of Vecsés, who on the anniversary of Arad, on
01:34:32October 6th, found the words
01:34:35of Ferenc Szálasi, the leader of the nation,
01:34:39to be the most appropriate to quote, your representative
01:34:42said, "One can die in the service of our nation,
01:34:45but never tire." This quote was taken from
01:34:49Ferenc Szálasi, the leader of the nation, who is responsible
01:34:52for the deaths of many thousands of our compatriots,
01:34:55for example, many were shot into the Danube. So,
01:34:59do you agree with the Vecsés Mi Hazánk
01:35:01representative, or will you perhaps distance
01:35:04yourself from him too, like from your vice-president?
01:35:07There aren't many left from whom you haven't
01:35:11distanced yourself in this faction, but please
01:35:14don't evade the issue, I want to ask you, and let's
01:35:18clarify this, because maybe some Mi Hazánk or Fidesz
01:35:22voters, well, I can't say KDNP, but Mi Hazánk and
01:35:25Fidesz voters haven't heard it yet, but let's repeat
01:35:28what you tried to deny in such flowery
01:35:31language. Your vice-president of Mi Hazánk, the deputy
01:35:35faction leader, the former Young Pioneer, now a
01:35:38Member of Parliament for I don't know how many
01:35:42years, Novák Előd, with his vote, managed to
01:35:45prevent the Mészáros Lőrinc faction, the Fidesz-KDNP faction, from being
01:35:49able to summon former Prime Minister Viktor
01:35:53Orbán to the parliamentary investigative committee that
01:35:56is also investigating Viktor Orbán's responsibility
01:35:59in the clemency and child protection scandal. Once
01:36:03again, for the record, with the vote
01:36:06of the deputy faction leader of Mi Hazánk,
01:36:10the Mészáros Lőrinc faction, the Fidesz-KDNP
01:36:13faction, managed to ensure that there
01:36:17would not be enough votes to summon Viktor
01:36:21Orbán, to hear that Viktor Orbán who,
01:36:24among other things, campaigned for the pedophile director of the Bicske
01:36:28home in 2002,
01:36:31when János Vásárhelyi was already the head
01:36:35of the home for many years and ran
01:36:38in the local elections. László Toroczkai,
01:36:42deputy chairman, or his deputy faction
01:36:45leader Novák Előd prevented the possible
01:36:47hearing of that Viktor Orbán,
01:36:51who nominated Pál Vásárhelyi
01:36:55for an award, so please don't
01:36:58prevaricate, Mr. Faction Leader, don't try to
01:37:02mix many things up, clarify
01:37:04János Vásári, clarify it, clarify
01:37:07what Mi Hazánk's position is, did you hold
01:37:11Novák Előd accountable, do you recall
01:37:15him from this parliamentary investigative committee,
01:37:19do you perhaps nominate yourself, because if
01:37:22you do, then the investigative committee is ready to put the
01:37:25proposal back on the agenda, and then that certain
01:37:29thing will be separated from that certain thing,
01:37:32and it will turn out that you lied and agree
01:37:35with Novák Előd, and as is obvious to everyone
01:37:39who watches public affairs
01:37:42bóka Jánossal, Navracsics Tiborral. "pontosan
01:37:45ugyanazt a narratívát nyomva, egymás végtelenül gyenge
01:37:48viccein nevetgélni, nevetgélve, mindenki
01:37:51látja, önök nem csak oldalkocsik, önök
01:37:55hát a nem túl jó minőségű mentő csónakjai, a
01:37:58mészáros Lőrinc frakciónak a Fidesz, KDNP,
01:38:01egyébként csalással, tiltott pártfinanszírozással, tiltott
01:38:05kampányfinanszírozással és egyéb lopásokkal itt lévő
01:38:09képviselőnek, úgyhogy legyen szíves, lesz még öt perce, biztos
01:38:12rendkívül fontos dolgokról fog beszélni, példá."
01:38:45now, even those Mi Hazánk voters
01:38:48who had an ounce of doubt will know,
01:38:52if they listen to this debate today, your
01:38:56performance, your broadcast, where everything
01:38:59was discussed, from the defilement of the Tisza,
01:39:02from 0 to 100, but also about the previous
01:39:0516 years of government, whether
01:39:08it was the child protection report, or the atrocities
01:39:12that happened at the Bicske home, or the
01:39:15hundreds of billions of forints stolen, or Lőrinc
01:39:18Mészáros's irregularities in public procurement at
01:39:21the Southern Ring Railway, you didn't talk about
01:39:24any of it, but now with what Novák Előd did,
01:39:27and perhaps we can thank him for it, he definitively
01:39:30exposed the Mi Hazánk faction and party. I
01:39:34ask you to confess and give a direct answer,
01:39:37will you go, or will you instruct Novák Előd
01:39:41to apologize to the victims of pedophile offenders,
01:39:44because he helped the head of the previous
01:39:48government not to have to appear, not to have to
01:39:51be brought in by the police if he doesn't want to? Yes,
01:39:55you're shaking your head, saved... patience, Mr. President.
01:40:27"Next week you will see, it will be very long, because
01:40:31I saw that you couldn't even read the Ministry of Interior's 33-page
01:40:34investigation report. If you want, we can prepare
01:40:38a short three-sentence summary for you with
01:40:41ChatGPT, and the budget will be much longer
01:40:45than that, not just for you, because
01:40:49this is not a bingo where you just have to mark X's,
01:40:52which a blindfolded plushman can do, so the budget
01:40:56is coming next week, and then I would like you
01:40:59to stand up and admit
01:41:02kér, egyébként egy alig öt hónapos kormányon,
01:41:06alig fél évvel a választások után, amit
01:41:09egyébként soha nem kért számon, soha,
01:41:12az előző 16 év bűnös hatalmán, soha
01:41:16semmit nem ért el, egy vizsgálóbizottságot,
01:41:19semmit, most ott van egy vizsgálóbizottság élén sok hónapja, és
01:41:23nulla, azaz nulla eredménye van, ezzel
01:41:26próbálta ete... az embereket, ezzel próbált mindenkit vádolni,
01:41:30hogy ön nem engedik dolgozni, most ott van, nulla, azaz
01:41:34nulla eredménye van, ezt újra felszólítom, ha úgy érzi, hogy
01:41:37önnek ez túl sok, túl nehéz, vagy túl nagy
01:41:41that you lied, everything you are now asking
01:41:44an almost five-month-old government about will be
01:41:47in it, almost half a year after the elections,
01:41:50which you never asked about, never,
01:41:54about the previous 16 years of corrupt power,
01:41:57you never achieved anything, not even an
01:42:00investigative committee, nothing. Now you are at
01:42:04the head of an investigative committee for many months,
01:42:07and you have zero, that is zero results, you
01:42:11tried to blame everyone for not letting you
01:42:14work, now you are there, you have zero, that is
01:42:17zero results, I call on you again, if you feel
01:42:21that this is too much for you, too difficult,
01:42:24or you have too many problems with your own
01:42:27faction, then please return that mandate
01:42:31from the head of the committee investigating enforcement
01:42:34abuses, the 140-strong Tisza faction will do
01:42:38this work too, I ask you to please, next
01:42:42week, when we present the budget, the 2027
01:42:45budget, which will be significantly different
01:42:48from previous budgets. You said that there was
01:42:51nothing in your speech from the podium, if you
01:42:54had paid attention, if you hadn't spent the whole
01:42:57time chatting with your rather few companions,
01:43:00then you would have known, you would have heard what
01:43:04I was talking about. I was talking exactly about
01:43:08how our country's 2027 budget will differ
01:43:11from previous ones, instead of... "the burden
01:43:15of many, based on their burden, few will become
01:43:18rich, the opposite will happen, we will
01:43:21share the burdens in this country in the
01:43:24future, and everyone, whether you like it or not,
01:43:27the Mészáros Lőrinc faction, the tobacco lobbyist gentleman,
01:43:30or his companions, everyone can benefit
01:43:34from these, even the child living in the
01:43:37last small hut of the smallest village,
01:43:41if it's about family allowance, if it's about
01:43:45their parents, then about tax reduction, if
01:43:48their parents perhaps work in the social
01:43:51sector, healthcare professionals, or otherwise
01:43:55assist in education, or work in public
01:43:58collections, they will all receive a salary increase that, of
01:44:02solve what you caused in 16
01:44:05years, because there are sectors where for 4-5
01:44:09years there was zero, that is 0% salary
01:44:12increase, while you created, and are
01:44:15laughing here, the highest inflation in Europe,
01:44:19the highest inflation in Europe,
01:44:22you have already forgotten, while you are playing
01:44:25bingo here, that there was a year when
01:44:28inflation was 25%, there was a time when
01:44:32food inflation was almost 50%, there was food
01:44:35whose price doubled in one year, and
01:44:38meanwhile you, while day after day you gave
01:44:41hundreds of billions of forints in contracts to Lőrinc
01:44:44Mészáros's company, Viktor Orbán's frontman, his
01:44:48domestic treasurer's company, with irregularities,
01:44:52stealing EU and national money, doing the same
01:44:55with László Szi, meanwhile in healthcare,
01:44:59social sphere, at the noksos,
01:45:03at the public collections, in law enforcement,
01:45:06at the riaszos, you gave almost nothing,
01:45:10and now you are here, laughing,
01:45:13on the phone, playing bingo, and you
01:45:17are still not ashamed of yourselves, and that's
01:45:20why I'm telling you, faction leader, that it's quite
01:45:24disgusting that you are asking an almost
01:45:28five-month-old government about factory closures,
01:45:31for example. Do you believe, do you think
01:45:35anyone in this country believes that it's
01:45:38not because of you that they are closing down? In
01:45:41your last year, unemployment continuously increased,
01:45:45in the summer of 2025, unemployment was 1%
01:45:48lower than when you handed over governmental
01:45:52responsibility, the number of unemployed increased
01:45:55by more than 50-60,000 during your governance.
01:45:58Have you ever worked in the private sector?
01:46:02Do you think that a company of 500 people
01:46:05decides in two weeks to pack up
01:46:07and dismantle a branch? You were the ones who
01:46:11did not negotiate with them, who did not help
01:46:14in anything, you were the ones who did not bring
01:46:18home the EU funds, you could not have provided
01:46:22support, job retention support, but you didn't
01:46:25even want to, because let's be honest, you
01:46:28were interested in everything except the interests of
01:46:32the Hungarian people, not the lakeside and
01:46:36my list. You did nothing, and now you are calling to
01:46:40of public funds, or even justice, or the
01:46:44investigation of abuses, so please don't deceive
01:46:47your voters, no one decided this in smoke-filled
01:46:51rooms, but the Hungarian people gave a mandate
01:46:55for this. You spoke, and also tried to explain that
01:46:58billion forints in the come to that investigative
01:47:02committee, or will you send a true patriot
01:47:06there, who will not try to prevent Viktor
01:47:10Orbán's hearing, and you also stated,
01:47:13Mr. President, I see you are looking down,
01:47:16as if you have lost your enthusiasm, about
01:47:19the dismissal of the President of the State Audit Office,
01:47:23or the dismissal of the head of the Competition
01:47:25Authority, that we decided in smoke-filled rooms.
01:47:29Your memory has failed you, Mr. President. We
01:47:32clearly stated this before the elections. We
01:47:36listed all, all of Orbán's puppets.
01:47:40Not just once. Minister, you may recall, it was
01:47:43first heard publicly in Nyíregyháza.
01:47:47We listed them, and it was in our program,
01:47:51we asked for a mandate for this, and maybe you
01:47:54don't like it. This six-person faction doesn't
01:47:57like it, but more than 3,300 Hungarian
01:48:01people also voted, among other things, to get
01:48:05the Mészáros faction out of government, and
01:48:08to stop this public money theft that they
01:48:12were doing, and to of Szálasin and Novák,
01:48:16apart from their predecessors, why they withdrew from the National Asset
01:48:19Recovery and Protection Office's nomination
01:48:22process, he said something like this, that the new deputy presidents of the MVWH
01:48:26are Tisza's people, you know who they are,
01:48:30you know who I'm talking about, Mr. President, these people
01:48:33are prosecutors, 20, 30, I don't know how many years they've been prosecutors, three
01:48:36deputy presidents were accepted or nominated. "The
01:48:40committee's public finance prosecution and
01:48:43appeal deputy presidents, you
01:48:45also withdrew from this, I understand that you have a
01:48:48kind of, how should I put it, a jolly joker capable of anything,
01:48:52the energy lawyer, who knows everything, even
01:48:55space law, asset recovery, the
01:48:58media, he could have been president, president of the republic,
01:49:02if it were up to you, but it seems there's only one, and now I see
01:49:06he's coming for your power, so be careful, Mr. President, because while he's trying to..."
01:49:10acquire the position of faction leader for Lőrinc Mészáros's
01:49:13faction, he might lose his own position too, because he's promoting
01:49:17this man too much,
01:49:20so, let me turn a little. to Lőrinc Mészáros's faction
01:49:23too, Rétvári Bence, I see you don't dare to look me in the
01:49:26eye, you said quite a lot,
01:49:30GDP, which, or rather, you laid quite a lot on us, but
01:49:33continuously, I don't know which said that nothing is happening,
01:49:37well, dear Bence Rétvári, in the last four years of
01:49:40your government, the economic growth was zero,
01:49:43that is zero, in your last four years, you managed to achieve
01:49:47the highest inflation in Europe on average, you, though
01:49:50with hundreds of tricks, tried to hide the budget
01:49:53deficit, you became the new Gyurcsány, although he was even higher
01:49:57in this period of 2010 than you are now,
01:50:00but you didn't succeed, you
01:50:03handed over the budget deficit with 8.3%,
01:50:06you handed over a bled-out, bankrupt country,
01:50:10you might have taken it over in a worse situation than Bajnai
01:50:13did back then, and what you also did, you tripled the
01:50:16national debt, but as I said, in your last year,
01:50:20the unemployment rate increased by 50-60,000 people.
01:50:23You handed over the country with the lowest wages in Europe,
01:50:26officially, according to all statistics, you handed over Hungary
01:50:30as the most corrupt and
01:50:32poorest European member state, EU member state,
01:50:36he brought it up again, compared to this, now I'm telling you what's happening in
01:50:40these few months, the GDP growth
01:50:43in Hungary is one of the highest in Europe, not very
01:50:46outstanding, although your former fallen boss, I think, would have given
01:50:50a lot for this 1.5-2% GDP
01:50:53growth, he might have even learned to fly, if someone else
01:50:58Imagine, Hungary has the lowest
01:51:01inflation in Europe.
01:51:04Under your rule, I tell you, there was a year when food prices increased by
01:51:0750%, now they decreased by 4-5%.
01:51:11Of course, they are not yet where they were at the beginning of your government, but I hope
01:51:14that with a predictable monetary policy, fiscal policy,
01:51:18price stability will be in Hungary, by the way, currently the forint is about
01:51:2160 forints stronger against the euro than
01:51:25it was under your government, and since he spoke again,
01:51:29lying to the Hungarian people's eyes about gasoline prices and
01:51:32diesel prices, then let me tell you that you are still, still talking
01:51:36about record diesel and gasoline prices, yes, János Bóka
01:51:39nods too, now the diesel and gasoline prices are still much lower
01:51:43than many times during your term between 2022 and
01:51:462026, and no matter how much you wish for
01:51:50collapse, no matter how much you wish. Still,
01:51:53in Central Europe, excluding Croatia, Hungary has
01:51:57the cheapest diesel and gasoline prices. I
01:52:00know, I know that you secretly hope for chaos,
01:52:04you secretly hope for fuel shortages, just as you secretly hoped that the Hungarians in Transcarpathia
01:52:08would not receive the облегчения,
01:52:11but you will not succeed,
01:52:14because we do not have a financial, economic government
01:52:18that would collapse the country, you might need it.
01:52:22and that 25 Ft per liter excise duty, crediting
01:52:26possibility, which the Tisza government and the
01:52:29transporters, which the Tisza government and the transporters agreed
01:52:32on together, but believe me, for the transporters it's not a small amount, not
01:52:36a small amount, they said, they asked for it, three
01:52:39ministers were there, I don't know if during your government
01:52:42it ever happened that Viktor Orbán sat down with, say, three ministers
01:52:46together with the transporters, or if he went out to the demonstrating
01:52:49workers in the social sector,
01:52:53Tisza government's three ministers sat down with the transporters' interest
01:52:57representation organization, and not only did they agree on this 25 Ft per liter excise
01:53:00duty crediting possibility, which is many billions
01:53:04of forints of relief for Hungarian transporters, but they also adopted
01:53:07a whole package that will ease the situation of Hungarian
01:53:11transporters. Imagine, they asked, for example, that the
01:53:14enforcement of road tolls should be checked more
01:53:18strictly, because many, according to bad tongues,
01:53:21companies close to the national crime system
01:53:24have trucks, lorries, that don't pay the road toll, so the
01:53:28Hungarian road toll
01:53:32organizations, or the Hungarian transporter organizations,
01:53:35asked the government to act much more strictly, but the government
01:53:38and the transporters' organization also agreed on other things,
01:53:42so, well, you know, there's that joke, maybe on Yerevan
01:53:45radio, that they don't give away, but
01:53:48plunder, not Moskvich, but Zastava, and so
01:53:51on, not... in, but I don't know, in St. Petersburg, but otherwise the news
01:53:55is true, you can take what you said with about that much
01:53:58seriousness, you
01:54:01intendant of the Mészáros faction was lying at the moment,
01:54:04because it was as if it was the same Chat GPT
01:54:08product, two speeches, well, it's true, I'll say it in
01:54:12your defense, that you can never present it as boringly as János
01:54:16Bóka usually does with lies, so there's still room for
01:54:19improvement, but in connection with Kata, you are also capable
01:54:22of truly lying the stars out of the sky, what did he say, how did
01:54:26he say it, sunshine, sunshine, evening, in the evening hours, sunshine, then,
01:54:29when he talked about the Ötkert, I'll get to that in a moment, it's absolutely astonishing
01:54:33that while... thousands of people, thousands of
01:54:39Tisza government's amendment, you will also
01:54:42see, you won't be able to deny it, like the Transcarpathian
01:54:44agreement now, that more than 100,000 more Hungarian
01:54:48small entrepreneurs, micro-entrepreneurs will enter the Kata tax
01:54:52system, and truly, put your hand on your heart for a moment,
01:54:55that you are capable, when you ruined thousands of
01:54:59entrepreneurs, overnight you abolished their
01:55:02favorable tax opportunities, without any
01:55:05questions, without any consultation,
01:55:08and now there is a government that pledged in advance to
01:55:11extend the Kata taxation again, pledged
01:55:14that they would not be left without pensions, would not be left
01:55:17without remote work pay, would not be left without
01:55:21maternity support, the small entrepreneurs, micro-entrepreneurs, and now it's
01:55:24doing it, and you have the
01:55:28start abusing and explain why it's not good, while during
01:55:32your government there was a time when more than 4 people were in the
01:55:35Kata tax system, and finally the number you also mentioned remained
01:55:39with great difficulty, perhaps 13,000 people, and now there will be an extra
01:55:4310,000, or an extra 13,000, and
01:55:45they are capable of opposing this too, but I could also mention the billionaires'
01:55:49wealth tax, I understand that some of your representatives
01:55:53were previously paid by the megaphone, so indirectly they were paid only
01:55:57by Lőrinc Mészáros or the Véhíd, now he pays you directly,
01:56:00I understand that they not only write lobbying articles in professional
01:56:04magazines against the billionaires' wealth tax,
01:56:07but why don't they try it once, maybe the KDMP would have more than five
01:56:10voters, it's worth a try, it can't be much less, why don't they try to
01:56:14tell the truth, to stand by the Hungarian people,
01:56:17why don't they try to apologize once,
01:56:20take responsibility. János Bóka went, I don't know, to some
01:56:24propaganda channel this weekend, and said that they don't
01:56:27need, Fidesz doesn't need to take responsibility for anything.
01:56:30Will you, Mr. Faction Leader, please pay attention while I'm
01:56:34answering you. "I'll wait, I'll wait,
01:56:37until János Bóka can pay attention, and is not just conferring with the megaphone
01:56:40propagandist
01:56:41at the moment.
01:56:45So I'll wait, why can he say such a thing, that you don't
01:56:49need to take responsibility for anything, you stole all the money in the world,
01:56:53everyone can see it now, even those who
01:56:56watch public media, listen to Kossuth Radio, everyone
01:56:59knows, well, there are the polls, 50% of your voters
01:57:02say, they remained. 50% of your remaining
01:57:06few voters also believe that the leaders of Fidesz, the
01:57:10leaders of the previous government, were involved in corruption, and that they stole
01:57:14public funds, this is not what Tisza voters think, because there, obviously,
01:57:17110% think this, among you, 50% of your remaining voters
01:57:20think that Viktor Orbán, the former ministers, you
01:57:23played a role in the theft of
01:57:27hundreds of billions, or thousands of billions of public funds, no,
01:57:31not the phone case, because I see this upsets
01:57:35you very much. I have bad news for you, you
01:57:37are trying to fabricate this, I don't even know when this was, June
01:57:412024, this thing, huge, huge
01:57:44amounts were invested in this, you had huge expectations,
01:57:48I know, it reached me, the former prime minister, and he thought that
01:57:51maybe this would, maybe this would prevent the
01:57:55change of regime, although at that time we were only after the EP elections, and then perhaps
01:57:59they couldn't imagine that they would suffer such an elemental
01:58:02defeat, such an unprecedented defeat,
01:58:06but even then they did everything. I have bad
01:58:09news for you: you very often, very
01:58:13often
01:58:15- ended up on the other side of that certain thing, you wanted something, and the exact
01:58:19opposite happened, and I have bad news, it will happen again, here
01:58:23in my phone is it, I won't throw it at you, but
01:58:26you can see it, the message of
01:58:29the former, of the former
01:58:32chief prosecutor, it's here: "he said what
01:58:36happened, he wrote it down, he was the chief prosecutor then
01:58:39in September 2024, when
01:58:42suddenly without any evidence, without any
01:58:45modification, they tried to fabricate
01:58:48a more serious crime
01:58:52under political pressure, political instruction, or to fabricate
01:58:56a crime out of a non-existent crime,
01:58:58he clearly describes and says it, and I have bad news, he is also
01:59:02ready to testify. and not only in this case, I have more bad news, but he will also
01:59:06testify in the Rogan Shadle Wölner
01:59:09case, because the same, because,
01:59:26because he knows exactly, this Dr. Fürk
01:59:29Pál, the chief prosecutor
01:59:32who once headed the investigative chief prosecutor's office. what it's about, because he
01:59:36was the one who in March
01:59:392024, when I went to the prosecutor's office, when they still thought it was
01:59:43just a desperate attempt by a hopeless person,
01:59:46by the way. Has Bertalan Havasi or Tamás Mencer appeared since then, so this was
01:59:49it, this was the chief prosecutor
01:59:52who was instructed and stood up then and
01:59:56said that the former Minister of Justice only spread rumors
01:59:59when she said that Rogan Antal and his
02:00:02people walked into the prosecutor's office and pulled
02:00:06out the parts of the investigative file that were favorable to
02:00:09them. This was it, this was the chief prosecutor
02:00:13who had to say, had to deny that Rogan
02:00:17or Pál Wölner and György Sadl were Antal Rogan's people,
02:00:20but dear faction leader, I have bad news,
02:00:24you backed the wrong horse again, and the truth will come
02:00:27out after a while, and when the hour and moment of truth
02:00:31strikes, it will be extremely, it will be extremely
02:00:34unpleasant, in fact, I think more so, because
02:00:38you thought you could do anything, you thought you could do anything, but
02:00:41the fact that you politically hand-
02:00:44controlled the prosecution, and in all cases... "that were
02:00:48inconvenient for you, you tried to ensure
02:00:51that nothing happened for years, or even decades, you didn't grant
02:00:54immunity, or you botched the proceedings, if by chance
02:00:57there was a proceeding, if by chance a free Hungarian court could pass
02:01:01judgment, then Áder János, the chief seal, the great
02:01:04fisherman, was still there, who granted clemency to the Fidesz
02:01:07mayor who was sentenced to a custodial prison sentence for corruption,
02:01:11you did this, and you thought that..."
02:01:14you could do anything, we see this in the
02:01:17documents of the ministries, we see this in the future
02:01:21testimony of the prosecutor, we see this everywhere, they thought, yes, yes,
02:01:24he is no longer a prosecutor, no matter how hard he tries to make a very weak,
02:01:28shoddy TikTok video, that person is no longer a prosecutor,
02:01:32that person is no longer a prosecutor, because he resigned a few
02:01:35months ago, and no matter how much they try to intimidate him now,
02:01:39he will tell, he will tell
02:01:42what happened, I can tell you that it will be very, very
02:01:46unpleasant. "It will be very, very unpleasant, just as
02:01:49it can be terribly unpleasant that such a
02:01:52person,
02:01:55here is Balázs Német, a tobacco lobbyist,
02:01:57whose campaign was more pathetic than anyone else's, he still told his
02:02:01voters one day before the election that he would
02:02:04win by 30%,
02:02:05I don't know, if I were you,
02:02:09I would hide, you lost by
02:02:1130%, one day before the elections you spread
02:02:14that you were leading, then you sat down. here, and
02:02:18as a lobbyist for British American Tobacco and János Sánta, you are trying
02:02:22to achieve lower tobacco product prices, so that Hungarian
02:02:26hospitals receive less money, he laughs here, and
02:02:29doesn't find this completely perverse, and here is a faction leadership, and they let this
02:02:33man, they think, congratulations on yesterday's Páztói
02:02:37mayoral election, out of three candidates, the Fidesz candidate came in third,
02:02:40achieving 16%, achieving 16%.
02:02:44Ultimately,
02:02:49ultimately, he was the first from the back, he was on the podium,
02:02:53he was on the podium, but Balázs Német and
02:02:57even János Pócs, or you, will be counted a few more times, I think
02:03:00it will be even less, you think
02:03:04you are here for millions of forints to play bingo,
02:03:07you sit down at a faction meeting, and instead of
02:03:11submitting amendment proposals,
02:03:14budget proposals, helping the Hungarians in Transcarpathia,
02:03:17healthcare professionals, teachers, law enforcement officers,
02:03:21adults sit down, of course they look around to see who else is
02:03:24at large, and after they note that they are still
02:03:26here, they start playing bingo, you
02:03:30truly, you truly, Gyula Andrássy,
02:03:33Battyányi, you are the successors of these people, don't you
02:03:37truly feel ashamed, we work, I started my
02:03:41speech, dear Hajnalka Juhász, by saying what results
02:03:43we achieved for the interests of Hungarians in Transcarpathia. That's the difference, thank you, we'll continue, all the best!
02:03:55"Please take your seat, Representative
02:04:18Pócs, with bingo, and we will continue our
02:04:21work. Due to personal involvement,
02:04:24Előd Novák, the representative of Mi Hazánk, requested the floor. I grant
02:04:27him two minutes. Thank you for the floor, Madam President. Péter
02:04:31Magyar made serious misrepresentations concerning me, since regarding the
02:04:35summons of Viktor Orbán, I voted exactly the same way as the Tisza
02:04:38representatives in the other investigative committees,
02:04:41for example, your nominee for Minister of
02:04:44Justice. Márton Mellétei Barna, in the investigative committee
02:04:48investigating the systemic crisis of child protection, where, by the way, I think
02:04:51it would be more justified to hear Viktor Orbán, but I accept that there too
02:04:54it would be a political mood-setting
02:04:57hangulatkeltés volna azért. kivizsgálás
02:05:00helyett, és ezért, hogy hadd idézzem őt, hogyan szavazták le végül az
02:05:04elnöki javaslatot, például azt mondta az önök frakcióvezető
02:05:07helyettese, idézem a jegyzőkönyvből, nem feltétlenül
02:05:10szükséges most Orbán Viktor személyes meghallgatását ebben a körben
02:05:13elrendelni, majd egyszerre ugye esetleg meg lehet hallgatni, egyébként én
02:05:17magam is ezt képviseltem saját szavazásunkor, ugye azt
02:05:20mondtam, hogy támogatjuk Orbán Viktor
02:05:23beidézését, ha majd valaki olyan vallomást tesz, hogy az
02:05:27ő utasítására, vagy nyomására adtak kegyelmet, de ilyen... "még miniszterelnök
02:05:30úr sem mondott soha, tehát a hamis vád terhe mellett,
02:05:34hogyha valaki egy ilyen kijelentést mer tenni, ám, akkor legyen, vizsgáljuk meg,
02:05:38de az, hogy abszolút filmszínházat csináljanak egy bizottságban, azt nem tudom
02:05:41elfogadni. Természetesen sokféleképpen meg lehet ítélni Orbán
02:05:44Viktort, nyilván a mi frakciónban is vannak árnyalatok, volt aki azt mondta, hogy
02:05:48tartózkodjunk, inkább igennel, vagy akár nemmel is lehet szavazni,
02:05:51nézőpont kérdése, igen, elfért többféle árnyalat, én magam egyébként
02:05:55Orbán Viktornak a keményebb kritikusai közé tartozom, de valódi elszámoltatást
02:05:59szeretnék, nem pedig ilyen látszat szinházat, és én értem, hogy
02:06:02öndig mondta, hogy bilincs, bilincs, rács, rács, és ez folyamatos hangulatkeltés, hogy a
02:06:06kampány véget sem ér, hogy ön le sem jön a platóról, valóban folytatja
02:06:10ezt a kampányt, ezt érezzük, de ezt nem ott kell kiélni egy vizsgálóbizottságban, ahol
02:06:14érdemi munka keretében, például meghallgathatnánk azt a balog Zoltánt
02:06:18a bosszú püspökét, akinek semmilyen következménye nem volt
02:06:21ebben a botrányban, sőt úgy néz ki, hogy miután leszavazták az én
02:06:25javaslatomat, amit már az első ülésen megtettem, ezekután oda jutottunk,
02:06:29hogy őt a püspöki.
02:07:00"due to personal involvement, I give the floor
02:07:03to Mr. Márton Mellétei Barna, for two minutes,
02:07:06thank you very much, Madam President, very briefly and due to everything I wanted to
02:07:10speak, Mr. Torockai, faction leader, claimed
02:07:13that I voted against, or now Mr. Novák also claimed that I voted
02:07:17against hearing Viktor Orbán. The quote is almost accurate,
02:07:20what he said, it continues with "Viktor Orbán's responsibility,
02:07:24his political responsibility is unquestionable as Prime Minister," and then it will be
02:07:28my proposal to "decide on the question of whether the investigative committee
02:07:32summons Viktor Orbán for a hearing, if, by the way, any
02:07:35concrete information emerges about his decision-making in child
02:07:38protection." In other words, in this case there was no decision, at
02:07:42the child protection investigative committee meeting we did not make a decision,
02:07:46as we decided not to decide, and
02:07:49postponed this issue, so we did not decide on it, as we did not
02:07:52on other politicians either, as it is an expert committee, where in the first
02:07:56round we try to clarify expert arguments and an expert position.
02:08:00So that afterwards we can examine the political responsibility, so this
02:08:04is a vile lie, I did not vote against hearing Viktor Orbán.
02:08:07Thank
02:08:08you very much.
02:08:16Esteemed Parliament, László Torockai, faction leader of Mi Hazánk,
02:08:19requested to speak before the agenda. Titled "The Government Is Oppressing
02:08:23Hungarian Businesses". I grant him five minutes, please.
02:08:27Thank you for the floor, Madam
02:08:30President. The situation is that Mr. Prime Minister's
02:08:33endlessly long, of course timeless
02:08:37abuses, insults,
02:08:39misrepresentations and lies would require such a long answer
02:08:42that these five minutes, of course, are not
02:08:46enough, but maybe this is part of his tactic, because this way I can talk
02:08:49significantly less, for example, about wealth tax, or
02:08:52the oppression of Kata, or about how Hungarian
02:08:55businesses are being put in an increasingly difficult situation, precisely
02:08:59because... so that later they can claim that there are not enough
02:09:02strong Hungarian businesses, so then foreigners can come,
02:09:06global corporations can come, despite this, I still
02:09:10have to react in these five minutes, because Mr. Prime Minister asked me
02:09:13to react to certain statements, well, let's start with this, that regarding the
02:09:17statements of our municipal representative in Vecsés, we immediately issued
02:09:20a statement where we clearly stated that we would launch an investigation,
02:09:24and we disassociate ourselves from all types of totalitarian
02:09:27systems. The other thing is that
02:09:37the other thing is that Mr. Prime Minister also called on me to
02:09:41disassociate myself from Előd Novák in connection with what he said
02:09:45earlier during the investigative committees, in this regard I would like to state something,
02:09:49if this has become such a topic, I would like to state something,
02:09:52in its name it contains that these investigative committees
02:09:55investigate, so they do not pass judgment, just because
02:09:59they summon, invite. "They oblige declarants to
02:10:02make statements, but an investigative committee does not pass judgment,
02:10:05therefore I support the widest possible hearings, I think that hearing
02:10:09prime ministers, whether Viktor Orbán or Ferenc Gyurcsány,
02:10:13in the case of various investigative committees,
02:10:15can always be useful, but I will say more about this
02:10:19when Mr. Prime Minister disassociates himself from
02:10:21the Tisza members of the investigative committee I lead,
02:10:25who prevented me from summoning Ferenc Gyurcsány and Viktor Orbán,
02:10:28and from obliging them to make
02:10:32statements. The other thing is that Mr. Prime Minister
02:10:35again prevaricated, again talked beside the point, we were not talking about the election
02:10:39of the National Asset Recovery and Protection Agency's deputy
02:10:42president, deputy presidents,
02:10:45but rather that throughout the entire procedure, we experienced
02:10:49that you decided in smoky rooms, for example, the election
02:10:52of the president, and then for example, regarding Miklós Seszták's
02:10:56arrest, the president would not have talked nonsense, because he would have at least
02:11:00known what kind of office he was leading, and you did not
02:11:03elect your own party member, a person from your political
02:11:07entourage, while all your statements that
02:11:11there is a points system, proved to be lies, that's why we withdrew
02:11:15from this disgusting election.
02:11:17process, and then the Prime Minister said many other things,
02:11:21for example, he said that we nominated the same person for every
02:11:24post, well, just today, all the Tisza party members,
02:11:28who are otherwise Fidesz representatives, unanimously voted for
02:11:31András Radecki, since we are talking about the Media Council,
02:11:34our suitable candidate, everyone together, Tisza members, even
02:11:38Fidesz members, both committees unanimously voted for him,
02:11:42so that..." amidst all the insults and slandering, let me
02:11:45correct this as well, Mr. Prime Minister, and
02:11:49then in the remaining short time I can talk about
02:11:53that, but I'm telling you, this is a good tactic on the part of the Prime Minister,
02:11:56I can talk about how you are destroying, if this
02:11:59continues, Hungarian businesses, why unemployment
02:12:02is constantly increasing since you formed
02:12:06a government. For example, there is a wealth tax, a wealth tax,
02:12:09which is indeed an oligarch tax in our pro... program, and
02:12:13we consider it correct if it's an oligarch tax, but the kind of
02:12:17wealth tax you intend to introduce, the problem with that is that it doesn't want to tax luxury
02:12:20assets, even one or higher 100
02:12:24billion, 5%, but specifically corporate
02:12:27participation, meaning corporate capital as well, and with this, you will
02:12:31reduce the competitiveness of Hungarian
02:12:34businesses, and again, you are doing what is essentially your
02:12:37essence, that's why you are in that European Union party family
02:12:41and that's why you joined them. Because you are again preparing the way for foreign
02:12:44big capital, this is the problem with that wealth tax
02:12:48proposal that you submitted and
02:12:50that you want to introduce now, and
02:12:54of course, this can then cause the consequences of missed investments,
02:12:58or if startups, Hungarian startups will go abroad because of this,
02:13:01this will all be on your conscience, and I have very little time left, but I would also like to say this much about
02:13:05the new KATA, the fixed tax for small businesses,
02:13:09that unlike, when that... So, let me tell you, I'm sure
02:13:21small taxpayers did not expect what you are doing, you are not only
02:13:25raising taxes, but also making it
02:13:28so complicated, excuse me, I had to respond to the Prime Minister's
02:13:32slanders for at least three minutes, just let me finish regarding the KATA,
02:13:35at least 20 seconds, then
02:13:39there will be, I just want to say that practically they will not be able to
02:13:43invoice companies, how much they will have to
02:13:47pay, normally and in well-functioning countries, they do not help
02:13:50small taxpayers like this, but with transparent
02:13:53rules.
02:13:58On behalf of the government, I give the floor to Prime Minister Péter Magyar, with a five-minute
02:14:01time limit, please. Thank you, Madam Speaker, esteemed House, esteemed party leader, sir, in a five-minute
02:14:05speech, you defended Miklós Seszták,
02:14:08you defended Ferenc Szálasi.
02:14:11viewer's pimple,
02:14:14or rather, fellow representative, if I understand correctly, then to this day, it's in vain that you ask for
02:14:18personal attack, you are still a
02:14:21representative, aren't you? They didn't make you resign. What is there to examine if someone quoted Szálasi
02:14:25at the Vecsés municipality's October 6th commemoration? What is there to
02:14:29examine? Was it that, or wasn't it? You still keep him as a
02:14:32representative. You defended Miklós Seszták and attacked the
02:14:35president of the MVWH National Asset Recovery and Protection Office. You said about him that
02:14:39he's talking nonsense. You attacked him because they arrested
02:14:42Miklós Seszták, one of the most corrupt Orbán ministers. You
02:14:46otherwise defended, knowingly or unknowingly, I don't know, Lőrinc Mészáros,
02:14:49when you talked about what the problem is with the billionaires'
02:14:53wealth tax. You said that we tax shares
02:14:56from businesses. According to you, it shouldn't be done,
02:15:00shouldn't we perhaps account for Lőrinc Mészáros's Opusz, MH,
02:15:03MBH bank, or who knows where his shares come from, or Vehíd?
02:15:07Really, according to you, only his personal wealth, Andi,
02:15:10should be taxed, but the 1500 billion corporate
02:15:14shares should not be taxed. Do I understand correctly that this is the official
02:15:18position of Mi Hazánk, that corporate shares, billionaires,
02:15:21oligarchs, corporate shares should not be taxed, right? Because then
02:15:25say it loud and clear that you are defending Miklós Seszták, Mészáros,
02:15:29this is what the Mészáros faction expects from you, and by the way,
02:15:32you actually talked about your candidate,
02:15:36Mr. Radecki, who was supported, I think, by all
02:15:39Tisza representatives. We hope he won't resign after two days
02:15:43like the previous candidate, whom we also elected,
02:15:47we accepted that you nominated him, he was like this and that professionally, but he resigned after two days,
02:15:51so we hope that if you manage to elect your new candidate,
02:15:55"then he will not resign, you also managed to defend
02:15:57Előd Novák, you should have given a straightforward answer as to whether
02:16:01you would vote for Orbán Viktor's hearing instead of Novák or not,
02:16:04instead, you again hedged, you defended Lőrinc Mészáros,
02:16:08Orbán Viktor, so don't laugh, he called Orbán Viktor a statesman of an era
02:16:12last time, it's on the internet, you always
02:16:16forget that the internet doesn't forget anymore, that this is not the
02:16:1980s anymore, it's on there, he said he's a statesman of an era,
02:16:23he said 100 times, rather Orbán Viktor than anyone else, take
02:16:27responsibility, I told you, I quoted this saying, if a man falls into sin,
02:16:30at least enjoy it, this way you won't be able to run for
02:16:34the leadership of the Mészáros Lőrinc faction with a chance, it's there, no matter how much
02:16:38you laugh, you and János Bóka, Tibor Navracsics and
02:16:41others are praising each other,
02:16:45your remaining voters also
02:16:47see that you are slandering a four-
02:16:51five-month-old government for things
02:16:55that are all the results, or lack thereof,
02:16:57of the previous six-year government. You do this, for example, with businesses, you
02:17:01don't mention a word about unemployment increasing by 50-60 thousand
02:17:04in the last year of the Orbán government, but you immediately bring up that
02:17:08three factories closed due to the same period. You don't
02:17:11mention a word about how many factories opened, how many new
02:17:15production halls opened, even this month thousands of new
02:17:18jobs are created, you never say that, but you immediately bring up
02:17:21how many jobs were lost due to the previous government's mistake.
02:17:25Do you think there is still
02:17:28anyone on earth in this country who
02:17:32believes that you are not the lifeboats, or rather
02:17:36sidecars, of this criminal gang in the Lőrinc Mészáros
02:17:40faction? I don't think so. We've said a thousand times, I still have
02:17:43a minute and a half, I need to learn to manage my time, although I had the same amount of time as you
02:17:47in this stage. We've said a thousand times how much we are doing
02:17:50for Hungarian small businesses. If you ever had the opportunity
02:17:54to sit in a government meeting, I would give it to you, but it doesn't depend on him, but on the Hungarian
02:17:57voters, you probably won't have it, then you could see how much
02:18:01this government is doing, while you are hating on Facebook, or
02:18:04just Novák, just János Bóka, or Navracsics
02:18:08are laughing, we sat in from Saturday morning
02:18:127 AM to Sunday evening 10 PM, and worked with the government
02:18:15members to put together the budget of justice and development, to put together
02:18:19programs, for example, the Gábor Baross railway development program, for example, the
02:18:22Sándor Vekerle housing program. We are putting together, for example, that
02:18:26water management construction program, which is not easy in such a
02:18:30budget situation, where it is not easy with such public procurement
02:18:34rules, with such complicated, long rules, if Fidesz
02:18:37didn't even plan such investments, they cut everything, so that they can start
02:18:40immediately, I don't know if you know, because this is a complicated thing, but half a year
02:18:44is at least just the planning, then comes the public procurement
02:18:47procedure, so with the greatest good intentions, if we invested all the money in the world, say
02:18:51in water management investments now, they still couldn't
02:18:54be realized, because there is environmental permitting, which
02:18:57they can rightly demand, there is public procurement, and there is
02:19:01planning, and despite this, we are doing everything to create
02:19:04jobs from repatriated EU funds, or even national funds, housing,
02:19:08water management investments, SME support, and you are trying
02:19:11to praise Orbán Viktor, Miklós Seszták, Lőrinc
02:19:15Mészáros and who knows what else, it's transparent,
02:19:18thank you
02:19:19very much.
02:19:26"Esteemed fellow representatives, in this case, Mr. Representative Pócs, I would like to
02:19:29ask you not to continue the practice of talking to those sitting in the
02:19:33box with your elbow, because this disrupts the work of the session, please
02:19:37refrain from doing so, and I also ask those sitting in the box
02:19:40to pay attention
02:19:44Thank you.
02:19:48Bence Rétvári, the faction leader of the KDNP,
02:19:52has applied for a pre-agenda speech, titled "The Tisza Party fulfills its
02:19:55election promises". I give him the floor for a five-minute time limit,
02:19:59please. Thank you for the floor, Madam Speaker, esteemed House, esteemed
02:20:02fellow representatives, Prime Minister,
02:20:05always wants to say something big, and with that, he exposes
02:20:09himself from time to time. Now I feel that his mobile phone is also in danger, but
02:20:13at least this one is his own, he didn't steal it from anyone else. You said that on this
02:20:16mobile phone, you, it seems,
02:20:19coordinated with the prosecution, it seems there were, there were
02:20:22former leaders.
02:20:25You write messages back and forth with a representative of a
02:20:28completely independent branch of power
02:20:31from the government, and we could feel like we were in the movie "The Witness",
02:20:34because you said that here is the case. the prosecutor's future
02:20:38testimony, so not even Péter Bacsó could have written such a large part
02:20:42into his own film, that the prosecutor's future
02:20:45testimony and even the verdict were already known, but that the prosecutor's future
02:20:49testimony is available, Mr. Virág would also have bitten his 10 fingers, he might have been more
02:20:53successful. We know you are an economic
02:20:57minister and you instruct the leaders of Moll circumventing everyone, and
02:21:00it seems you are coordinating with a representative of a
02:21:03branch of power that is completely independent of the government, not under government
02:21:07control, the prosecution, regarding a future
02:21:11testimony, you are coordinating with a former prosecutor
02:21:14regarding a future testimony. No one
02:21:18in a rule of law dares to do this. Only
02:21:21Péter Magyar dares to do this, because he thinks that he can do anything in this country. Neither the
02:21:25constitution nor anything else is a limit to his power,
02:21:29he can trample on anyone, and he can rewrite any law, or if
02:21:32he doesn't have time to rewrite it, then he follows a different practice. This is unacceptable in a European democracy.
02:21:36in recent weeks and months, perhaps you said this most
02:21:56often in the past six months, about people
02:21:59against whom there is no legally binding court
02:22:02decision, and now that you are becoming a suspect, you object
02:22:05to anyone calling you
02:22:08a suspect, that's all about
02:22:12your case. You introduced a new genre today, until now it was 16 years, now it's 16 and a half
02:22:16years, because now you hold the Fidesz-KDNP responsible not only for 16 years, but also for the first
02:22:19half-year of its municipal governance. These are still the responsibility of Fidesz-KDNP,
02:22:23whatever happened, unemployment increased, tourism declined, whatever
02:22:26else, it's not your responsibility, you didn't make decisions in the last six months, Fidesz-KDNP
02:22:30is responsible for everything, you still refer to 16 years
02:22:34as if you voted for Fidesz in 2010, you voted for Fidesz in 2014,
02:22:37you voted for Fidesz in 2018, you voted for
02:22:41Fidesz in 2022, because, and until then you were on Fidesz's side, as long as
02:22:44you had well-paying jobs, on what basis do you refer to 16 years,
02:22:48when you were a beneficiary of the system,
02:22:51because you wanted to be, because you wanted to fill better and better positions, and it was not
02:22:55during the KATA protests that you turned
02:22:58and stood on the other side, but once your well-paying
02:23:02jobs ceased, you criticize Lőrinc Mészáros, you mentioned
02:23:05MBH Bank and Opus, well, who was a member of the supervisory board at MBH Bank?
02:23:09You. Who wanted to get into a leading position at Opus with a motivational letter?
02:23:13You. And you criticize us about MBH Bank
02:23:16and Opus, and Lőrinc Mészáros. When you were lobbying Lőrinc
02:23:19Mészáros and you continue to do this week after week here,
02:23:22here in Parliament. Completely, completely
02:23:25discredited. You asked if it was really true that Madam Speaker
02:23:29read out the title of my speech,
02:23:32that the Tisza Party fulfills its election promises, I see that it indeed
02:23:36fulfills all those promises that the Tisza Party made to Brussels.
02:23:40We saw Manfred Weber's statement, he is very
02:23:43proud of the Tisza Party's victory, because this way financial support for Ukraine
02:23:47could start, and Ukraine's EU accession talks could also
02:23:50start. We see that it has fulfilled this promise to Brussels.
02:23:53Brussels sent every year that price regulations must be phased out,
02:23:57by phasing out protected prices, it has also fulfilled this promise to Brussels.
02:24:01By phasing out the bank fee stop, it has also fulfilled
02:24:04a promise, a promise
02:24:08that it did not make to the Hungarian people, but rather to the Brussels supporters.
02:24:11By modifying the retail special tax formula in favor of multinationals,
02:24:14it has also met an expectation reiterated by Brussels
02:24:18in country reports and at other times,
02:24:21namely that the 3% fixed working capital loan for SMEs has ceased,
02:24:24this also favors Brussels, favors the European Union,
02:24:28this is good for large multinational companies, bad for Hungarian SMEs.
02:24:31They have also prepared the phasing out of the mortgage interest rate cap and the price cap, which is also
02:24:35bad for people, but "good for multinationals. Public procurements and
02:24:39concessions are increasingly being won by multinationals and foreigners, Hungarians
02:24:43received more taxes, while foreigners received more orders, more support, more
02:24:47won public procurements, this is how you fulfill your promises
02:24:50to Brussels, and tomorrow with the adoption of the Gender Law,
02:24:54against the Hungarian referendum
02:24:57against the Hungarian referendum,
02:25:00your submitted amendments, which allow gender in schools,
02:25:03you will also tick off this Brussels expectation tomorrow
02:25:07with the full 100% implementation of the Luxembourg Court's judgment, thank you
02:25:11very much.
02:25:11I give the floor to Prime Minister
02:25:16Péter Magyar for his response, with a five-minute
02:25:19time limit.
02:25:21Madam Speaker, thank you for the floor, I don't know if there's any point to it, the
02:25:25truth is,
02:25:27but at least the independent political expert,
02:25:31Attila Tibor Nagy, is enjoying this performance from the Fidesz faction's box,
02:25:35I greet him from here.
02:25:37And of course, I also greet the Fidesz faction's psychologist, whom we
02:25:41know from before. Esteemed
02:25:44fellow representatives, esteemed fellow representatives,
02:25:48you, Mr. Faction Leader, just said that... "Tomorrow we are voting on a gender law,
02:25:51right? Tomorrow we are voting on a child protection
02:25:55law. We are voting on a law that strengthens child
02:25:58protection, and you call that a gender
02:26:01law. Let's see tomorrow if the cat
02:26:04will be out of the bag, whether they will vote down or vote for
02:26:08the amendment to the law that strengthens the protection of Hungarian
02:26:11children. You are in such a
02:26:14level of hatred and madness, I don't know if you noticed,
02:26:18that they cancelled the Peace March due to lack of interest
02:26:22for October 23rd, the 70th anniversary of 1956,
02:26:25but they are holding a flag-raising ceremony instead,
02:26:29no matter how much you complain, representative, I don't know what the problem is, they are holding a
02:26:32flag march instead, and do you know what will be the slogan
02:26:36of the Fidesz march on the 70th anniversary of the 1956 revolution?
02:26:40Not "Long live Hungarian freedom" or "Respect to the
02:26:43heroes", no
02:26:45gender, no war, no
02:26:48migration. You have reached this point, that
02:26:51on the 70th anniversary
02:26:54of 1956, with such slogans,
02:26:57which were quite successful in the previous campaign as well, you will march with such slogans,
02:27:01but I would like to draw the attention of the independent political analyst
02:27:04to a small detail, that Fidesz also
02:27:07said that they will march under a 1848 m
02:27:10long Hungarian flag on the 70th anniversary
02:27:14of 1956, let's calculate together
02:27:18how big... the difference, I think,
02:27:21you should have put another 108 m into the price of the Hungarian
02:27:25flag from your own money, without public funds, so that you could march on October
02:27:2923rd with "no gender, no
02:27:32war, no migration" slogans, but I think
02:27:35it would have been much more fitting if you, Bence Rétvári, or you,
02:27:39shouting Hajnalka Juhász, had marched with "Long live
02:27:42May Day" signs, or "Here's November 7" signs.
02:27:45"Let me answer about the
02:27:48föl.
02:27:56prosecution. I wouldn't say you are the sharpest tool
02:27:59in this faction, but I assume even your successor would have understood
02:28:03what I said. I explained it clearly, and
02:28:06everyone understood except you. It wasn't a current
02:28:10prosecutor who wrote, and I didn't reply to him. He sent two
02:28:13text messages about which
02:28:16cases he will testify in.
02:28:20But most importantly, he will testify not in my case,
02:28:23but in another ongoing case, about how
02:28:26under the previous government they tried to politically
02:28:30influence the Wölner-Schadl-Rogán case, how they tried
02:28:33to cover up, to save your former minister from one of the biggest
02:28:36corruption cases, and in other cases. It's useless for you to lie
02:28:40to your five TikTok followers, it's useless
02:28:43to point fingers, you are not that low yet. I just told you,
02:28:46I didn't coordinate with a currently serving prosecutor, I didn't coordinate
02:28:50with anyone, he sent two messages through his lawyer
02:28:53and told me what he will testify about, and I can
02:28:57tell you, perhaps Mr. LMZ will
02:28:59confirm it when he hears the testimony, that it will be very, very unpleasant for you,
02:29:03more than unpleasant. Dr.
02:29:16Bence Rétvári, faction leader of Fidesz, has applied for a pre-agenda speech,
02:29:20titled "Not just numbers". I give him the floor for a five-minute time limit,
02:29:23please. Thank you,
02:29:26thank you for the floor, Madam Speaker, esteemed House. It's always the case that when we get to pre-agenda
02:29:30speeches, the atmosphere gets a little more heated,
02:29:33probably because there are too many mobile phones here and the
02:29:37Danube is too close, but
02:29:40what I can do, what I can do
02:29:44to improve the good atmosphere, is that,
02:29:48is that I will "draw attention to a few
02:29:51facts. Indeed, I made the statement mentioned by the Prime Minister
02:29:55in an interview. I gave this interview to Magyar Hang. Magyar
02:29:58Hang does not consider itself a Fidesz propaganda
02:30:02channel, but if the Prime Minister thinks so, perhaps he should
02:30:05discuss it with them. The other thing is that quite a lot
02:30:08of statements were made regarding pedophile perpetrators and
02:30:12supporters of pedophile perpetrators, just
02:30:15so that the debate returns a bit to reality, and those
02:30:19present here and those watching the broadcast are also aware
02:30:22that the bill submitted
02:30:26by the Tisza Party,
02:30:29which we will discuss in detail today and
02:30:32vote on tomorrow, this
02:30:35bill will make it more difficult
02:30:38to access the register of pedophile perpetrators.
02:30:42This was proposed by Tisza. You will
02:30:45tighten access to the
02:30:49register of pedophile perpetrators.
02:30:52We, whom you said do not work,
02:30:55do not submit amendment proposals, we submitted an amendment
02:30:59proposal so that this tightening does not occur.
02:31:02So you should probably tell the voters why
02:31:06you want to tighten access to the register of pedophile
02:31:09perpetrators by invoking the personal
02:31:13rights of pedophile perpetrators. Perhaps you should
02:31:15tell them if you are doing this for EU funds, or
02:31:18for free, and you should tell them why
02:31:22you voted against our amendment proposal in the committee? We requested
02:31:25that this amendment proposal come back here to the plenary,
02:31:29tomorrow here in the plenary about this... small entrepreneur, whether they are a taxi driver,
02:32:02hairdresser, manicurist, or beautician, they look at
02:32:05the end of the month to see how much is left, and a
02:32:08transporter doesn't fill up with Facebook posts, but with
02:32:12diesel. The Hungarian government's decisions, however, still
02:32:15look as if these were not flesh and blood people, but just, but
02:32:18just numbers. In October
02:32:222024, you, more precisely Péter Magyar, promised
02:32:26that we would restore the KATA tax. Later, he
02:32:29corrected this and said that the new system should be just as simple
02:32:32and just as cheap. Compared to this,
02:32:36138,000 current KATA payers will pay
02:32:3910,000 HUF instead of 5,000 HUF, this is hardly cheaper. Secondly, the new
02:32:43system will not be simple either, because you will introduce a 15% special tax
02:32:46on revenues invoiced to companies, which will complicate
02:32:51In the case of fuel, there is also quite a serious difference between promises and
02:32:54decisions. Péter Magyar said verbatim on March 3rd:
02:32:58"Enough with the talk and agitation, immediate
02:33:02tax cut and petrol price cap at 480 HUF
02:33:06at Hungarian petrol stations." And on April 16th, he promised,
02:33:09and it can be read on his Facebook post: "We will maintain the protected
02:33:13price for both diesel and petrol
02:33:16even after the new government takes office."
02:33:19End of quote. This resulted in
02:33:23a petrol price of 642 HUF and a diesel price of 709
02:33:25HUF. And what you announced on October
02:33:299th is a 25 HUF per liter excise duty
02:33:33refund, while the Hungarian Independent Hauliers'
02:33:36Association is asking for 128 HUF and a 10%
02:33:39road toll refund. So the government gives only a fifth
02:33:42of the requested per liter help, and does not
02:33:46provide any relief. The Fidesz
02:33:49proposal provides an immediate and understandable solution for everyone
02:33:52by reintroducing the protected petrol price.
02:33:56This would mean 94 HUF per liter instantly
02:33:59at the pump, compared to the current diesel price, not
02:34:02months later, and not after filling out paperwork. The
02:34:05Independent Hauliers' Association also said that if someone cannot fill up their
02:34:09truck, they cannot ask for a refund later. We
02:34:13resubmitted this proposal, please, Tisza,
02:34:16also support its placement on the agenda.
02:34:20Thank you. Thank you.
02:34:22I give the floor to Prime Minister
02:34:30Péter Magyar for his response, with a five-minute
02:34:33time limit, please. Thank you, Madam Speaker, how much better the weekends are, no
02:34:37Mr. Minister of Finance, then you can work, and then you don't have to parade
02:34:41in this circus, that's why I was thinking about what it must be like to sit in a box,
02:34:44what it must feel like to sit in a Fidesz
02:34:48box as an independent analyst, then it occurred to me that János Martonyi
02:34:52also joined the MSZMP with good instinct, one year before the MSZMP
02:34:55ceased to exist, that's what came to my mind, but we are not
02:34:58all the same, let me say that it is particularly stomach-churning
02:35:02that you talk about pedophilia, about easing pedophilia,
02:35:05and that Alexandra Szentkirály, who is currently tapping on her phone,
02:35:09is applauding, almost falling out of her seat, who demonstrably
02:35:13and known by all awarded, publicly,
02:35:16a pedophile monster, János Vásárhelyi, awarded him or
02:35:20not, Madam Representative, and now here,
02:35:23here, you are in the photo, smiling as you present
02:35:27this award, dear Representative, but you can speak up
02:35:30under personal attack and say it.
02:35:35between two phone calls, you rarely speak here anyway, for some reason, I don't even know why, so this law
02:35:39for tomorrow, this amendment for tomorrow, no matter
02:35:42what you lie about, by the way, along with your sidecars,
02:35:45with our homeland, this is about easing the situation of the 500
02:35:49babies left in the hospital, for whom you,
02:35:52with whom you did nothing, you tolerated for years,
02:35:56you tolerated for years that several hundred
02:35:59babies, even for more than a year, were in cribs.
02:36:03Why are you shouting? Ms. Hajnalka Juhász, in this Parliament,
02:36:07you tolerated that there are hundreds of babies, for more than
02:36:10a year, but there was one in the Baja hospital for three years.
02:36:15baby, I would like to ask Madam Speaker to ask the Representative
02:36:19not to shout continuously, so this
02:36:21is quite astonishing. We are talking about babies left in hospitals
02:36:25in the basic law.
02:36:29Please pay attention to the speaker, thank you.
02:36:32I suggest the faction's psychologist, or the independent analyst, to give
02:36:35perhaps, to give perhaps educational advice. More
02:36:39than a hundred, more than a hundred, more than a hundred abandoned children
02:36:42were discussed for years, and you did nothing. You did not submit any legislation,
02:36:46you did not provide any money, you did not help the
02:36:49child protection workers, your boss,
02:36:53isn't that right? I would like to ask the camera to show
02:36:57Juhákát, so Viktor Orbán, your prime minister,
02:37:01said that everything is fine with Hungarian child protection,
02:37:04you honored, you gave clemency to pedophile monsters,
02:37:08you took away the money, you didn't let us bring in the gifts
02:37:11at Christmas, you lay down, and now there is a law.
02:37:15There is a government that could help their situation, when we give an additional
02:37:18this year alone, into an extraordinary
02:37:21fund, we do everything, an expert, not
02:37:24an interior minister, not a retired police officer in charge of
02:37:27child protection, but a real expert, then they come here and
02:37:31János Bóka, a former SDS politician, stands up
02:37:34belehazudik az emberek szemébe, pedofíliáról, amiből egy szó
02:37:38nem igaz, és neki tapsol Szent király Alexandra, aki kitüntette a
02:37:41pedofil rémet, hová süllyedtek önök, mit
02:37:45gondolnak önök, mindenki tudja, hogy 16 évig vezették
02:37:48ezt az országot, látták, hogy több 100, vagy néha több mint ezer gyerek
02:37:52van az utcán, kerül pedofil rémek markába, kerül
02:37:56drogbandáknak a karmába Magyarországon, vagy éppen Hollandiában, és
02:38:00önök semmit nem tettek, minden pénzt elvontak, 100
02:38:03milliárdból egy palotát csináltak belügyminisztériumból, eladták a
02:38:07régi épületet egy arab befektetőknek, közben mészáros
02:38:10Lőrincet, Szí Lászlót és ki tudja hány bűnözőt pénzeltek, és van
02:38:13képük fölállni. és lesz képük holnap ezek szerint nem megszavazni
02:38:17azt a törvényt, ami segíthet több 100,
02:38:20több 100 kórházban lévő gyereken, és gendereznek,
02:38:24no gender azt jelenti, hogy nem nélküli, nem tudom mire
02:38:27gondol, jó vergődést, köszönöm szépen,
02:38:39napirend előtti felszólalásra jelentkezett Müller Anna, a tisza
02:38:43képviselője a... a felmérések tükrében
02:38:46oktatásunk jelene és jövője címmel, megadom a szót öt perces
02:38:50időkeretben, kérem, hogy hallgassuk figyelemmel, tiszteljük meg
02:38:53képviselőasszonyt a
02:38:54figyelmünkkel.
02:39:00kezdhetem, szuper, jó, tisztelt elnökasszony,
02:39:03tisztelt miniszter asszony, tisztelt ház, mindannyian a napokban
02:39:07olvashatuk pizza felmérésnek az eredményeit, és
02:39:11soha nem látott rossz eredmények születtek szövegértésből.
02:39:15matematikából, és lényegesen,
02:39:17lényegesen romlott természettudományok területén is
02:39:21az eredmény. mind három területen az OECD átlag
02:39:25alatt teljesítettek a magyar diákok. Éppen
02:39:28ezért, mivel piza felmérés az valójában egy
02:39:31tükör, de nem a diákok teljesítményéről, hanem
02:39:34az oktatási rendszerről. Ezért érdemes végignézni, hogy az
02:39:38elmúlt 16 évbe, három
02:39:40évenként, amikor ezek a mérések voltak,
02:39:44akkor önök. milyen eredményekkel szembesültek, milyen
02:39:47elhatározásaik voltak, és milyen tetteket követtek
02:39:51el. Az első Orbánkormány 2010-es
02:39:54megalakulásakor az első píza eredmények azt
02:39:57mutatták, hogy matematikából és természetismeretből stagnált
02:40:01as well. In all three areas, Hungarian
02:40:04students performed below the OECD average. This was your response: you
02:40:07wanted faster improvement. And what did you do? You
02:40:10abolished the independent Ministry
02:40:12of Education.
02:40:15Your next step was to create the CLICK
02:40:18system under the guise of centralization. Your next
02:40:21step was to lower the compulsory education
02:40:24age limit to 16 years, and then you also
02:40:27reduced the number of hours for all natural science
02:40:31subjects. The next PISA
02:40:34survey, in 2012,
02:40:37came, when the results deteriorated
02:40:40in all areas. What did you do after that? Viktor
02:40:44Orbán was not interested in the topic, but State Secretary
02:40:47Rózsa Hoffmann said that much faster improvement would
02:40:51follow within three to six years, and that the
02:40:54cause of all this was the 2003 core curriculum. Therefore,
02:40:58in 2012, a new core curriculum was
02:41:02quickly created, and the teacher career path system
02:41:05was introduced, Mr. Representative Rétvári is not here, the teacher career path system, which
02:41:09was based on putting all teachers at the starting
02:41:12line, regardless of their professional past. Furthermore, the 20
02:41:16hours were increased to 22,
02:41:19and then to 26. The 2015 PISA
02:41:23survey test followed,
02:41:27when the science results plummeted,
02:41:30mathematics stagnated, and reading comprehension
02:41:33also deteriorated. What was the response to this?
02:41:37Viktor Orbán still did not react to any of it.
02:41:40State Secretary Palkovics said that the previous governments'
02:41:44education policy was still responsible
02:41:47for this. János Lázár, on the other hand, named
02:41:51the teachers as the main culprits. And then
02:41:54after that, they introduced the chalk, from which. We know
02:41:58that it was not really chalk users
02:42:01who profited, but NER entrepreneurs.
02:42:04In 2018, a rare moment arrived,
02:42:07because the system showed signs of
02:42:10recovery. Viktor Orbán was still not
02:42:13interested in any of this. Zoltán Marussa, however, quickly reacted
02:42:17that all this was the fruit of the Orbán government's
02:42:20good education policy. Compared
02:42:23to this, János Lázár did not mention teachers at this time.
02:42:28"However, the government started, my fellow representative Piroska Szalai is not
02:42:31here, that they decreased the
02:42:34amount available for education as a percentage of GDP
02:42:37every year, 5%, 4.8%, then
02:42:414.7%. This is how we arrived
02:42:45at the 2022 results, when the results
02:42:48further deteriorated in mathematics and
02:42:51reading comprehension. At this point, Viktor
02:42:55Orbán spoke up, because he appointed Sándor Pintér, a police
02:42:58officer, as the minister responsible for education.
02:43:02He himself admitted at the introduction that he doesn't understand
02:43:05education, but he understands
02:43:07leadership. What did he do with this attitude? He introduced the
02:43:11status law? Furthermore, he
02:43:15bled out the right to strike, and then those teachers who
02:43:18actually spoke out against the problems here,
02:43:22he fired them. Meanwhile, of course,
02:43:24he introduced a new NAT, they rewrote the
02:43:27matriculation, the matriculation rules, that is,
02:43:31they eradicated every seed of creativity
02:43:34from Hungarian, and although they took a step,
02:43:38with significant European Union support, to raise
02:43:41teachers' salaries, they could not keep young people
02:43:45in the profession. Furthermore, in the world
02:43:48of universities, we know how they interfered.
02:43:52I would like to ask, I will round off my
02:43:54thoughts, that this is how we arrived at the...
02:43:572025 PISA, where
02:44:00from 473 points, the performance in mathematics
02:44:04was 459, from 486 points,
02:44:06480 in natural sciences,
02:44:09and in reading comprehension, the performance decreased
02:44:12from 473 to 452,
02:44:15and all these are the results of your conscious actions,
02:44:19since year after year chalk,
02:44:23so my question to the
02:44:27lady is what strategic steps are you trying
02:44:31to take to stop this catastrophic process.
02:44:46I give the floor to Minister Judit Lannert for a five-minute
02:44:49response, please proceed. Madam Speaker,
02:44:53I have a request, that I was personally
02:44:56attacked, could I respond in two minutes
02:45:00in connection with this as well, I would put
02:45:03this together. No, it is not possible,
02:45:07please respond to the speech now, thank
02:45:11you very much, okay, then I
02:45:15will say that education is in a global crisis, this is what the
02:45:18PISA data shows, never have reading comprehension results been so
02:45:22low worldwide as in the 2025 measurement,
02:45:26and the Hungarian data is tragic
02:45:29compared to this, we lag behind several countries in the
02:45:31region where we previously performed
02:45:34better, so I agree
02:45:37with you, this cannot be explained solely by international trends,
02:45:41the result is largely the consequence of 16 years of government.
02:45:45After 16 years of destruction, we must
02:45:48rebuild a well-functioning Hungarian education system
02:45:52step by step, and we will not make progress
02:45:55with faintheartedness, there are countries where relatively good
02:45:58results have been achieved, Hungary can also belong to this
02:46:02group. The examples of Japan, or in Europe
02:46:05Estonia, England, and Ireland also show that they can be successful
02:46:09where they understand the processes behind learning in depth, and can
02:46:13harmonize the lessons learned from these
02:46:16with national traditions. A common
02:46:19feature in these countries is also that schools and teachers
02:46:23are given significant freedom
02:46:26in organizing the learning process,
02:46:30decisions are not made on ideological or party-political
02:46:33grounds ad hoc, but with thorough strategic planning and
02:46:37broad social consensus.
02:46:40"In Japan, for example, instead of mere memorization, they prioritize
02:46:44learning motivation, applicable knowledge, and technical
02:46:47skills. The Estonians are very advanced
02:46:50in the development of digital competencies, and in Ireland,
02:46:53creativity is given attention. The Irish creative
02:46:56learning program's core element is ensuring student voice and
02:47:00participation in education, and the
02:47:02English, who did not
02:47:06overwhelm their
02:47:09content management
02:47:12with information as many
02:47:15mistakenly interpret it, but since
02:47:182014, they have placed great emphasis on reading comprehension,
02:47:22critical thinking, and problem-solving.
02:47:26We can learn a lot from the example of these
02:47:28countries. We also need strategic thinking and
02:47:32intervention. In the last four months,
02:47:35distinguished House, we have begun dismantling centralization
02:47:39without challenging the system's operation,
02:47:42we expanded the powers of schools and
02:47:45school directors, restored the decision-making
02:47:48and opinion-giving rights of teaching staff,
02:47:52restored teachers' right to strike, we are electing
02:47:55new leaders through open tenders at background institutions,
02:47:59school districts, and vocational training centers.
02:48:02The Tisza government kept its promise, we provide
02:48:0510,000 Forint school start-up support
02:48:08to 400,000 needy families.
02:48:10The salary increase for staff directly assisting
02:48:14education and schooling, forgotten by the Orbán governments,
02:48:16will take place. An independent representation has been given
02:48:20to the nursery and kindergarten sector in the new
02:48:23Ministry of Education and Child Affairs. In the coming months,
02:48:27we will prepare further reinforcing measures,
02:48:30by the end of the year, we will finalize the Hungarian education
02:48:33strategy, which will include the
02:48:36Artificial Intelligence strategy for Hungarian education
02:48:40and training. We are launching a comprehensive
02:48:43reading comprehension development program, and we are
02:48:46developing a new national core curriculum. With the
02:48:49development of the new National Core Curriculum, we will comprehensively
02:48:52revise the content regulation of education,
02:48:56we will define clear exit requirements
02:49:00at the end of each educational stage, regarding what knowledge
02:49:03and skills students should possess, and at what level
02:49:06they can apply these independently. The reading
02:49:10comprehension development program must accompany the entire school learning
02:49:14path, in upper primary and
02:49:17secondary school, it is also necessary to practice
02:49:20processing complex texts.
02:49:23Our goal is not merely to improve numbers, the goal is for children
02:49:27to be better off, to have better opportunities in
02:49:30life, to be capable of more and to achieve
02:49:33more. This is good for children, for families, and also
02:49:37for the economy. Good education, first
02:49:41and foremost, serves the development of the entire country,
02:49:43thank you.
02:49:51Esteemed National Assembly, due to personal involvement, Mr. László Torockai,
02:49:54faction leader, requested the floor, I grant him two minutes
02:49:57of time. Thank you for the floor,
02:50:00Madam President, Mr. Prime Minister, you have repeatedly
02:50:03accused me with the lie that I defended Miklós
02:50:07Seszták. Of course, this is not the case. I assume that we are the
02:50:10Ág movement, but I think it is the duty of all parties present, all
02:50:14their voters and members,
02:50:16to hold accountable every politician
02:50:19suspected of corruption or even those
02:50:22on whom suspicion of corruption falls, so of course
02:50:25I did not defend Seszták, Miklós Seszták,
02:50:29and I specifically urge that the procedures be accelerated
02:50:32even in the case of perpetrators who are still at large
02:50:36in the enforcement mafia case. "Everyone must agree
02:50:40on accelerating the procedures. So I reject
02:50:43these accusations, but the conditions
02:50:46of the rule of law must be demanded. It was about
02:50:50not exceeding the rule of law, whether it be the
02:50:53president of the MVVH or anyone else, not exceeding the
02:50:56framework of the rule of law. My remarks were only
02:51:00about this, you cannot abuse this, and I would also like to
02:51:03react to the fact that here in connection with the investigative committees,
02:51:07it was repeatedly mentioned and every
02:51:11procedure that the Prime Minister attributed to me, which I did not do,
02:51:15was demanded, and also
02:51:18in connection with the quote attributed to Szálasi, the Prime Minister
02:51:21called on me to explain why we have not yet excluded the municipal
02:51:25representative, because it needs to be investigated, exactly
02:51:29like, for example, Tibor Kaprinyák's case, which
02:51:32you knew about exactly half a year ago, but you
02:51:35investigate. The name Ferenc Szálasi was not even mentioned by the municipal
02:51:39representative, and, of course, he claims, this is what our
02:51:42statement was about, that he did not quote Szálasi, this needs to
02:51:45be investigated, so there are rule of law, there are frameworks even within a party
02:51:48that we all must adhere to, therefore
02:51:51I reject what you said, Tibor Kaplinyák's case as well,
02:51:55you are investigating it now, it should have been investigated already, as you knew about it, and also
02:51:59how he could have hundreds of millions, when he previously managed a 100%
02:52:02state-owned company, well, that's not relevant here anymore, Mr. Representative,
02:52:05thank you for your speech.
02:52:08Esteemed National Assembly, I inform
02:52:10you that the list of representatives who have applied
02:52:14for further extraordinary speeches is available
02:52:18on the parliamentary IT network.
02:52:20Esteemed National Assembly, next in line is
02:52:23the establishment of the agenda for today's
02:52:27session. You could find my agenda
02:52:29proposal on the National Assembly's website.
02:52:33Please take your seats and check that your cards
02:52:36are in the voting
02:52:38machine.
02:52:41Esteemed National Assembly, first we decide on a motion
02:52:44for exceptional procedure. The proponent initiated
02:52:47that the National Assembly should discuss
02:52:51in an exceptional procedure "the full
02:52:54disclosure of the secret service activities of the former
02:52:56regime and the amendment of Act
02:52:59LI of 2026 on the Historical Archives
02:53:03of the State Security Services" proposal T/779.
02:53:06According to the proposal,
02:53:08during the exceptional procedure, it should be possible
02:53:12to submit amendment proposals within three
02:53:16hours after the decision ordering the exceptional
02:53:19procedure. The decision on the consolidated
02:53:23amendment proposal and the final vote
02:53:27should take place on Tuesday,
02:53:29October 13, 2026. Esteemed National Assembly,
02:53:32the National Assembly decides on the proposal
02:53:36without debate. I draw your attention to the fact
02:53:39that for ordering an exceptional procedure, more than
02:53:43half of the representatives, i.e., 100 representatives,
02:53:47must vote yes. I ask you, do you accept
02:53:50the motion for exceptional procedure?
02:54:07I announce the resolution: the National Assembly
02:54:10accepted the motion for exceptional procedure
02:54:14with 131 votes in favor, 40 against, and
02:54:18seven abstentions.
02:54:21According to our adopted decision,
02:54:24amendment proposals can be submitted until
02:54:266:54 p.m. today, and the
02:54:30consolidated debate and votes will be discussed
02:54:33during tomorrow's
02:54:35session. Esteemed National Assembly, we are now
02:54:39deciding on a motion to amend the agenda.
02:54:43The Tisza parliamentary group proposed that the agenda
02:54:46for the National Assembly's session on Tuesday, October
02:54:4913, 2026, be supplemented
02:54:52with the following agenda items after the announcement of the results
02:54:56of the secret vote on the personnel proposal
02:54:58for the election of the vice-presidents of the National Asset Recovery
02:55:01and Asset Protection Office, and if elected, after the
02:55:05swearing-in of the elected vice-presidents:
02:55:08Point A. If the National Assembly
02:55:12orders the discussion in an exceptional
02:55:15procedure of the full disclosure of the
02:55:18secret service activities of the former regime
02:55:21and the amendment of Act
02:55:24LI of 2026 on the Historical Archives
02:55:28of the State Security Services, the consolidated
02:55:30debate of bill T/779
02:55:34in an exceptional procedure. Point B.
02:55:37The decision on the consolidated
02:55:41amendment proposal submitted to bill T/779,
02:55:43and the final vote
02:55:47on the bill, after the
02:55:50provisions of point A.
02:55:53Those who agree with this, please raise your hand
02:55:56and vote.
02:56:00Thank you. I confirm that the visible
02:56:03majority of the National Assembly accepted the proposal.
02:56:07Esteemed National Assembly, we are now deciding
02:56:10on a motion for an exceptional procedure. The government
02:56:12proposed that the National Assembly discuss
02:56:16in an exceptional procedure the proposal T/821 on the amendment
02:56:20of Act LXVIII of 2016
02:56:23on excise duty, concerning the increase of the tax refund for
02:56:27commercial diesel due to the increase
02:56:31in fuel prices. According to the proposal, during
02:56:34the exceptional procedure, it should be possible to
02:56:37submit amendment proposals within three
02:56:41hours after the decision ordering the exceptional procedure.
02:56:44The consolidated debate will take place on Tuesday,
02:56:47October 13, 2026, after the decision
02:56:50on bill T/779 on the full disclosure
02:56:54of the secret service activities of the former regime and the
02:56:57amendment of Act LI of 2026 on the Historical Archives
02:57:01of the State Security Services. The decision on the consolidated
02:57:04amendment proposal, as well as the final vote,
02:57:08will take place on Tuesday, October
02:57:1113, 2026, after the consolidated debate,
02:57:15but no earlier than 12:00 PM.
02:57:18Esteemed National Assembly, the National Assembly
02:57:22decides on the proposal without debate. I draw your attention
02:57:26to the fact that for ordering an exceptional procedure,
02:57:29100 representatives must vote yes. I ask you,
02:57:33do you accept the motion for exceptional procedure? Please
02:57:49I declare the resolution: The National Assembly accepted
02:57:52the motion for exceptional procedure
02:57:55with 139 votes in favor.
02:58:00Minister Gábor Kószai's voting machine was not working,
02:58:04so I correct the resolution: the National Assembly
02:58:07accepted the motion for exceptional procedure
02:58:11with 140 votes in favor, 41 against, and
02:58:14three abstentions. Esteemed National Assembly,
02:58:18according to our adopted decision, amendment proposals can be submitted
02:58:21until 6:58 p.m. today.
02:58:25the combined debate and votes will be held
02:58:27tomorrow during the session. Esteemed
02:58:31National Assembly, we are now deciding on an urgent proposal. The government has initiated
02:58:35the urgent debate of the proposal No. T/816
02:58:38regarding the prevention of money laundering and the amendment of regulatory areas
02:58:42affecting certain closed-end funds. According to the proposal,
02:58:46the general debate of the bill should take place
02:58:49after the general debate of the bill No. T/797
02:58:53on measures to protect public property and restore public trust
02:58:56and amendments to the necessary laws during the session
02:58:59of the National Assembly starting on October 12, 2026, on Tuesday, October 13, 2026,
02:59:03in the series of general debates. The urgent proposal
02:59:06can be found on the website. Esteemed
02:59:09National Assembly, I would like to draw your attention to the fact
02:59:12that two-thirds of the উপস্থিত representatives'
02:59:15"yes" vote is required for the urgent debate to be ordered.
02:59:19I ask you, will you order the urgent debate of the bill? Please vote
02:59:23now. Yes. I declare the resolution.
02:59:26The National Assembly, it did not work, since someone
02:59:30voted yes. Thank you.
02:59:33It worked for everyone else. Then... I declare the resolution. The National Assembly
02:59:36ordered the urgent debate
02:59:51with 185 votes in favor, no votes against, and no abstentions.
02:59:54Esteemed National Assembly, we are now deciding on an agenda proposal,
02:59:58which has been supplemented
02:59:59by the debate of
03:00:03proposals T/816 and T/821.
03:00:06I ask the esteemed National Assembly whether it accepts the agenda proposal. Please vote by
03:00:10raising your hand. Thank you very much. I state that
03:00:13the visible majority of the National Assembly
03:00:16has accepted the agenda. Esteemed National Assembly, I thank you for your cooperation
03:00:19so far. I now hand over the presidency to Deputy Speaker Dr. Hallerné, Dr. Nagy
03:00:23Anikó, and I order a two-minute technical break.
03:00:26Esteemed National Assembly,
03:00:29elfogadja-e a napirendi javaslatot? Kérem, kéz felemeléssel
03:00:33szavazzanak.
03:00:36billion, you sold the
03:00:40napirendet elfogadta.
03:00:43Tisztelt Országgyűlés, megköszönöm eddigi együttműködésüket, az elnökrést most
03:00:47átadom Dr. Hallerné, Dr. Nagy Anikó alelnök asszonynak, és
03:00:50kettő perc technikai szünetet rendelek el.
03:09:02we continue our work. At 16:09,
03:09:05we will move on to the debate of interpellations.
03:09:09Please take your seats.
03:09:13Mihály Vicman, representative of Fidesz,
03:09:20submitted an interpellation to the Minister of Finance,
03:09:23titled "What will happen to the real small taxpayers?" Representative Mihály Vicman has the floor
03:09:27for a three-minute time limit. I ask my esteemed fellow representatives
03:09:30to take their seats. We continue our work. Thank you very much.
03:09:34Please, Mr. Representative, you have the floor. Thank you very much for the floor, Madam Speaker,
03:09:38Esteemed Minister, Esteemed fellow representatives, the KATA
03:09:41tax was not originally introduced as a tax option
03:09:44for self-employed small businesses. It was created so that
03:09:47small and individual businesses could fulfill their tax obligations
03:09:51both in terms of payments and administration. These
03:09:54micro-businesses engage in so-called B2C, i.e., business to
03:09:58consumer activities, meaning they provide residential
03:10:01services, during which they directly sell their services
03:10:04to end-users. To give real-life examples
03:10:08and be understandable to everyone, we are essentially talking about
03:10:10nail technicians, hairdressers, masseuses, music teachers,
03:10:14or for example, personal trainers. We also remember
03:10:17that one of the emphasized messages of the election campaign was tax reduction, the
03:10:21reduction of administrative burdens on businesses, and the
03:10:24promise of a simpler, more predictable tax system.
03:10:28According to my recollections, the Tisza Party promised in its election
03:10:31promises that it would make KATA widely available again,
03:10:35gradually simplify the tax system, and reduce the number of taxes.
03:10:38The program also stipulated that they do not wish to increase
03:10:41taxes on wages. In contrast,
03:10:45they are submitting for social consultation a bill on tax increases.
03:10:48The KATA was expected to be simple precisely because it was a simple,
03:10:51predictable, and easily fulfillable tax form,
03:10:54but it is not only simplicity that is important
03:10:57for the smallest, so-called micro-businesses.
03:11:00These individual entrepreneurs are very much concerned whether
03:11:04they have to pay 5,000 Forints or 7,500 Forints
03:11:07per month, or even 10,000 Forints from 2028.
03:11:10The Tisza Party did not promise this, but rather that it would not
03:11:14raise taxes on wages. But let's look at some concrete examples:
03:11:16a hairdresser's annual income is approximately 4.5 million Forints,
03:11:20which is roughly 350-400,000 Forints per month. From this,
03:11:24they pay the current 5,000 Forints KATA, the local business tax, and
03:11:27possibly a lease fee as well. According to the Tisza Party's proposal,
03:11:31the tax burden of the hairdresser in the example will increase
03:11:34by 2,500 Forints per month as a first step, and then
03:11:37by 50,000 Forints per month from 2028. A plumber
03:11:40has a similar monthly income, but they also have to finance
03:11:44their travel to the site in view of the extremely
03:11:48high fuel prices. According to your proposal,
03:11:50the tax burden of the expert in the example will also increase
03:11:54by 2,500 Forints first, then by 5,000 Forints
03:11:57per month from 2028. The monthly income
03:12:01of masseuses is somewhat less than this. This income
03:12:05is burdened by the daily costs of operation,
03:12:08such as the rent. According to your proposal,
03:12:11the tax burden of masseuses will also increase by 2,500 Forints
03:12:14in the first round, and then by 5,000 Forints per month
03:12:18from 2028. Esteemed Minister, I believe that with the proposal
03:12:22submitted for social consultation, it is precisely the smallest
03:12:25who will suffer. Therefore, I respectfully ask you,
03:12:29why are you increasing the burdens on the smallest, and how can
03:12:33the proposed increase in KATA be reconciled with the tax reduction
03:12:36policy promised and announced by you in the campaign?
03:12:40I await your esteemed answer. Thank you very much.
03:12:43Thank you very much,
03:12:46Mr. Representative. I give the floor to
03:12:50Minister András Kármán for a four-minute time limit.
03:12:53Please, Mr. Minister. Thank you for the floor, Madam Speaker.
03:12:56Esteemed House of Representatives,
03:12:59Esteemed Representative, your concern for KATA taxpayers
03:13:01would be more credible if in the summer of 2022,
03:13:04you, along with the Fidesz-KDNP majority, had not voted for
03:13:07and abolished the KATA in its previous form within 24 hours
03:13:10without any consultation or prior communication,
03:13:14which forced 45,000 small taxpayers
03:13:18into a completely changed situation overnight within a year.
03:13:21In accordance with our promise, we are expanding the accessibility of KATA,
03:13:25and we are reopening KATA to
03:13:29non-full-time entrepreneurs as well, including pensioners,
03:13:32entrepreneurs working alongside their employment, and
03:13:36students who are entrepreneurs alongside their university studies, with a fixed
03:13:40tax of 5,000 Forints per month. In the future,
03:13:43KATA taxpayers will also be able to invoice companies again,
03:13:45and we are increasing
03:13:53the annual revenue limit from 18 million Forints
03:13:56to 22 million Forints. The old KATA
03:13:59did not ensure that those within it received acceptable
03:14:02sickness benefits, maternity benefits, and pensions.
03:14:05Their benefit basis today is only 108,000 Forints
03:14:08per month, one-third of the minimum wage. The Hungarian state cannot
03:14:12leave those who work honestly and pay taxes
03:14:16unprotected. In order for the new KATA to be a fair
03:14:19and decent system for all taxpayers, ensuring the social security
03:14:22of taxpayers, we had to change the
03:14:26amount of the fixed tax. The monthly amount of KATA
03:14:29has been unchanged since 2013, while thanks to your government's
03:14:32policy, Hungary had record inflation in Europe.
03:14:35A fixed tax of [amount] Forints is worth little more than
03:14:39half of what it was worth when it was introduced,
03:14:43so it is not sustainable in this form. However, as a result
03:14:45of the amendment proposed in the bill, a secure, transparent, and
03:14:49equitable system for everyone will be created.
03:14:52This is also a question of fairness. A general tax-paying hairdresser
03:14:56already pays contributions after at least the minimum wage,
03:14:59almost 107 Forints per month. The new KATA's
03:15:02full-time fixed tax will be 10,000 Forints in 2027,
03:15:05less than what their colleague working in the neighboring salon
03:15:08pays today, but it still entitles them to full benefits,
03:15:12and the simplicity of KATA remains.
03:15:16I also answer Mr. Representative's examples. The hairdresser,
03:15:19plumber, and masseuse who are currently KATA taxpayers
03:15:22can pay taxes according to transitional rules until the end of 2028.
03:15:26Their fixed tax will be 7,500 Forints in 2027,
03:15:30and 10,000 Forints in 2028, but their benefit basis
03:15:33will also increase with it, from 18,000 to
03:15:37161,000, then to 215,000 Forints.
03:15:40In exchange for the additional 25,000 Forints per month,
03:15:43their sickness benefit can increase from 64,800 Forints
03:15:46to 96,000 Forints, their child care allowance
03:15:50from 18,000 to 161,000 Forints, and their pension will be higher
03:15:53accordingly if they choose the new KATA. Their benefit
03:15:56basis will be 317 Forints in 2027,
03:15:59almost three times
03:16:03Mr. Representative, my answer to your question
03:16:06is therefore clear: KATA is not a tax on wages, but an
03:16:09optionally available, preferential tax form,
03:16:12and it will remain so. The government is not making
03:16:16it more difficult, but is placing it on a secure foundation
03:16:19and making it accessible to many more entrepreneurs,
03:16:22the smallest tax form for the smallest.
03:16:25Please accept my answer. Thank you very much, Mr. Minister.
03:16:29Now I ask the representative if he accepts the answer. Thank you very much for the floor, Madam Speaker.
03:16:32Mr. Minister's answer, unfortunately, despite my greatest
03:16:36respect, I cannot accept. Mr. Minister, you forgot to mention
03:16:39that the KATA tax form was introduced by the Fidesz-KDNP
03:16:42on January 1, 2013, and it worked for nearly 10 years,
03:16:46nearly 10 years, but in practice, the tax form gave rise to
03:16:49many abuses, which is why it had to be tightened at the time,
03:16:53as in many workplaces, employees were essentially
03:16:56employed as KATA workers instead of in an employment relationship,
03:17:00and it is useless for the Minister to say that this does not mean
03:17:02an additional burden for taxpayers, because it does, and that is why
03:17:06I cannot fundamentally accept your answer, because your promise,
03:17:10the official tax policy summary
03:17:12of Tisza published on February 10, 2026,
03:17:14explicitly mentions the
03:17:20broader reintroduction of KATA, the simplification of the tax system,
03:17:23and the reduction of the number of tax types, and this program also states
03:17:27that they will not raise any taxes on wages, no matter what the Minister
03:17:30says, that this does not burden wages, it certainly does, whoever
03:17:34has to pay and has to pay 2,500 Forints more, and then
03:17:37500 Forints, this tax increase proposal will indeed affect their
03:17:41pocket sensitively, therefore I cannot accept your answer.
03:17:44Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Mr. Representative.
03:17:48Representative Mihály Vicman did not accept the answer
03:17:51to the interpellation. I ask the National Assembly if it accepts
03:17:54the answer. Please vote now.
03:17:58Thank you very much. I now state and declare the resolution of
03:18:00the National Assembly: the National Assembly accepted the answer to the interpellation
03:18:04with 124 votes in favor, 47 votes against, and no abstentions.
03:18:07Dr. Zsuzsa Máté, representative of the KDMP, submitted an interpellation
03:18:11to the Minister of Education and Children's Affairs, titled "Life is a sin."
03:18:14Representative Dr. Zsuzsa Márti has the floor for a three-minute
03:18:17time limit. Please.
03:18:21I am very sorry, it's not the Minister here,
03:18:25and I have to address it to you. I'm sorry, because we were the ones
03:18:29who could even present a "yes" vote
03:18:32in connection with an interpellation. The truth is that
03:18:36we are used to the Minister expressing herself in a somewhat
03:18:39technocratic, cold way of thinking, referring to some kind of data-based
03:18:43approach, she made statements
03:18:45about education, saying
03:18:57that it is wasteful because there are too many schools,
03:19:00too many subjects, and too many teachers.
03:19:02At the same time, there are many of us
03:19:06who read these statements with surprise,
03:19:08but we did not suspect that a 2011 reflection
03:19:12by the Minister goes far beyond these.
03:19:15She lamented the question of abortion regulation,
03:19:19and the Minister concluded that in reality, too many,
03:19:22ill-timed, and
03:19:25ill-conceived, yet born children
03:19:28pose a threat to a peaceful society
03:19:32and the quality of education. There are some sentences
03:19:35that when one reads them, one rubs their eyes
03:19:39and wonders if it is real, reads it again,
03:19:42and simply cannot believe that someone wrote it down.
03:19:45Especially from the pen of an educated person who
03:19:49has since been responsible for the entire Hungarian public education.
03:19:53The Minister, citing American crime statistics,
03:19:57wrote that abortion is useful because it reduces
03:19:59the number of violent criminals, as unwanted children are
03:20:03more likely to become criminals, and she continued, and I quote precisely:
03:20:07If we consider that as many fetuses as we save
03:20:10by prohibiting abortion, we can lose the same,
03:20:14or even more, people later due to increasing
03:20:17violent crimes. This is simply
03:20:20unbelievable. You, as educated people, also know
03:20:24which historical era and when such logic
03:20:27was prevalent. Here I would mention the issue of eugenics.
03:20:30The Minister stated no less than that
03:20:33the quoted unwanted child can statistically become a criminal,
03:20:36and if these children predisposed to crime
03:20:40are not born, we actually save lives,
03:20:44because who knows how many fellow citizens they could kill
03:20:48when they grow up. Unfathomable. And she continued
03:20:52the argument, now turning to domestic waters, lamenting
03:20:55the Rákosi era with an education researcher's lens,
03:20:59she claimed that the born
03:21:02populous generations, alongside healthy
03:21:05children, had to learn in
03:21:09overcrowded classrooms, meaning it was bad
03:21:13that this populous generation was born, the "Ratkó grandchildren,"
03:21:16born in the 70s, I also belong to them,
03:21:20who otherwise raised children, work, and I think
03:21:23we are useful members of this society, and
03:21:27it is unbelievable that European civilization, whose
03:21:30fundamental principle is that life is not an economic calculation,
03:21:34not a function of the parents' circumstances and not predestination,
03:21:37is not evident to the Minister. The question is,
03:21:41does she stand by, and this is not for you,
03:21:43Minister, this chilling train of thought? If so,
03:21:47when will she submit her resignation?
03:21:51Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Madam Representative.
03:21:54I now give the floor to State Secretary Balázs Kaproncai
03:21:57for a four-minute time limit. Please. Esteemed Madam Speaker,
03:22:00Esteemed Representative, first of all,
03:22:03allow me to express my appreciation to you for your enthusiasm
03:22:07in being able to travel back in time
03:22:10for even a decade and a half by quoting a single sentence
03:22:14from a 2011 professional blog post. The recipe for demagoguery
03:22:17is infinitely simple: cut out a sentence from
03:22:21a complex social science analysis, and then
03:22:25create moral panic about it. If you had taken the trouble
03:22:28to read the entire text, you would have seen that the writing
03:22:32was not about devaluing life, but rather
03:22:35about the human tragedy of forced political measures.
03:22:38The post summarized the lessons of international and domestic
03:22:42research, including Decree 770 of the Ceausescu
03:22:46dictatorship. It also pointed out the stark fact that
03:22:49when power dictates the most intimate decisions of families,
03:22:53the most vulnerable always bear the brunt.
03:22:57Neglected children, cold state institutions,
03:23:00generational trauma, and deep poverty. The task of science
03:23:04is to present the causal relationships,
03:23:08and this is still the case even if they are uncomfortable
03:23:11for ears accustomed to simple propaganda slogans.
03:23:14And what was the final conclusion in the referenced blog post
03:23:18that you forgot to read out? Let me quote it verbatim: There is no,
03:23:22there is no such thing. The lesson from this is that
03:23:25it is better if politicians leave it to women
03:23:29whether they want children or not, because they are much better
03:23:32at assessing their opportunities. This is the only adult
03:23:35and responsible position. The protection of our children
03:23:38is an unquestionable value for us, not a political campaign
03:23:42product, and not a rubric in the statistics of power.
03:23:46The only difference between us is that we think
03:23:48in terms of human destinies, in ensuring that every child
03:23:54and has a chance for a happy life. How can they entrust the future of Hungarian children
03:23:57and our schools to us without functioning as an ideological
03:24:01inquisition, without poking around in bedrooms,
03:24:05but by building a country
03:24:08and school system where starting a family is not coercion, but
03:24:12a joyful and secure decision, where children
03:24:15can attend modern, supportive schools that provide competitive knowledge, and when they grow up,
03:24:19not emigration, but a real future awaits them. So my answer
03:24:22to your question is clear: the problem is not the child,
03:24:26the problem is if the state is unable to adapt the school,
03:24:30the provision, and the necessary capacities. After the previous
03:24:3316 years, we must change this. You are judging
03:24:37a 15-year-old post, we are dealing with the consequences
03:24:41of 16 years of government. This is what we are doing,
03:24:45and you should hold us accountable for this. Thank you.
03:24:48Thank you very much, Mr. State Secretary. I respectfully ask
03:24:51the Representative if she accepts the answer. One-minute time limit.
03:24:54Thank you very much. No, you are judging over 16 years,
03:24:57excuse me, but we are talking about a reigning politician
03:25:01who is responsible for Hungarian children, and who found
03:25:04a causal connection between the birth of children
03:25:08conceived at the wrong time, in the wrong place,
03:25:10or there, and crime statistics.
03:25:14This is absurd. By the way, we also talked
03:25:16about reading comprehension, whether there are reading comprehension
03:25:21to send all of you this incriminating blog post.
03:25:24Read it and judge for yourselves. I think you are intelligent,
03:25:28sensible people, and you will be able to understand that
03:25:30simply with such a mindset, one cannot be responsible
03:25:34for Hungarian public education and Hungarian children.
03:25:37Therefore, I ask the National Assembly if they accept the answer.
03:25:41Please vote now. Thank you. I state and declare
03:25:44the resolution of the National Assembly, and I ask the esteemed representatives
03:25:48to remain silent. The National Assembly, with 125
03:25:50votes in favor, I still ask the representatives to remain silent,
03:25:54and not to disrupt the declaration
03:25:56of the resolution. Thank you. So once again,
03:26:00the National Assembly accepted the answer
03:26:03with 125 votes in favor, 47 votes against, and no abstentions. Thank you very much.
03:26:10Előd Novák,
03:26:11representative of Mi Hazánk,
03:26:14submitted an interpellation to the Prime Minister,
03:26:17titled "Why can the third man of the Hungarian Armed Forces
03:26:21propagate the imprisonment of Viktor Orbán, if he is theoretically
03:26:25not allowed to engage in political activity?"
03:26:28I give the floor, excuse me, regarding the interpellation.
03:26:32According to the topic, State Secretary László Kürtös
03:26:36Antal will answer,
03:26:39and I respectfully ask if you accept the person
03:26:43answering. Yes. Good, excuse me,
03:26:46I ask if I give the floor, excuse me.
03:26:49Thank you very much. Thank you.
03:26:53Thank you for the floor, Madam Speaker. Esteemed State Secretary,
03:26:57I submitted an interpellation to Péter Magyar,
03:27:01as the competent person, because members of the Hungarian
03:27:04Armed Forces are theoretically not allowed to engage
03:27:20in political activity, and perhaps this should
03:27:23not be investigated directly
03:27:35by the Hungarian Armed Forces or the Ministry of Defense.
03:27:39Nevertheless, Major General Zoltán Apáti
03:27:42Nagy, the Chief of Staff of the Hungarian Armed Forces,
03:27:46who was appointed by the head of state
03:27:48with effect from June 1 on the proposal of Dr. Rusin Sandy
03:27:52Romulusz, propagated the imprisonment
03:27:54of Viktor Orbán on Facebook as Major General.
03:27:58Prime Minister Péter Magyar, who believes that
03:28:02the political statements of Parish Priest Zoltán Osztie
03:28:05are unacceptable, and because of this, he called on the Hungarian
03:28:08Catholic Church to distance itself. Now the question is,
03:28:11will the Prime Minister take similar steps
03:28:15towards the Minister of Defense in his own government?
03:28:19Mi Hazánk has been doing everything from the beginning
03:28:22against all forms of corruption and political crime.
03:28:26We have filed numerous complaints regarding the corruption cases
03:28:28of the Fidesz government in recent years,
03:28:32even I myself, when Péter Magyar was still
03:28:35applauding Viktor Orbán. We have also submitted
03:28:39several bills
03:28:39to curb corruption.
03:28:44Köszönöm a szót, elnök asszony, tisztelt államtitkár úr, azért nyújtottam be
03:28:47Magyar Péterhez interpellációt. mint
03:28:50illetékes személyhez, mert a magyar honvédség
03:28:53tagjai elvileg nem folytathatnak politikai
03:28:56tevékenységet, és ezt talán nem
03:28:59közvetlenül a honvédségnek, vagy a honvédelmi minisztériumnak
03:29:02kellene kivizsgálnia,
03:29:05ennek ellenére Apáti Zoltán vezérőr Nagy
03:29:08a magyar honvédségnek a vezérkari
03:29:12törzsigazgatója, akit Dr. Rusin Sandy Romulusz
03:29:15előterjesztésére június elsejeii hatálljal nevezett ki
03:29:19az államfő. "vezérőr nagyjá a
03:29:21Facebook-on Orbán Viktor bebörtönzését
03:29:24propagálta. Magyar Péter miniszterelnök úr,
03:29:28aki szerint Osztie Zoltán Plébános
03:29:32politikai megnyilvánulása
03:29:35elfogadhatatlan, és emiatt a Magyar Katolikus egyházat is
03:29:38elhatárolódásra szólította fel. Nos a kérdés, hogy
03:29:41miniszterelnök úr, tesz-e hasonló lépést
03:29:44saját kormányában, a honvédelmi miniszter
03:29:47felé. A mi hazánk kezdetektől mindent..." megtesz
03:29:50a korrupció, a politikus bűnözés minden formájával szemben. Számos
03:29:54feljelentést tettünk a Fidesz kormány korrupciós ügyletei
03:29:58miatt is az elmúlt években, én magam is, már akkor, amikor Magyar
03:30:02Péter még Orbán Viktornak tapsolt. Több törvényjavaslatot
03:30:05is benyújtottunk a korrupció visszaszorítása
03:30:08order, but for example, despite Péter Magyar's election promise
03:30:11, the abolition of parliamentary immunity was voted down. Two
03:30:15weeks ago, it was still exactly for cases subject to public prosecution, which he promised not
03:30:18so long ago. However, according to Péter Magyar,
03:30:22accountability should take place within the framework of the rule of law
03:30:25and not under prime ministerial or even military pressure
03:30:29, according to our movement's conception of the rule of law
03:30:32. In the armed forces , political expression on Facebook
03:30:36is also prohibited, and many soldiers have been disciplined
03:30:39for it. Why can the third man in the armed forces do this
03:30:43anyway? What will be the consequence? I don't expect
03:30:46Péter Magyar to throw his smartphone into the Danube either, but still.
03:30:50we cannot tolerate double standards in any way. What
03:30:54kind of example does the Chief of Staff
03:30:56of the Hungarian Armed Forces set? Since he was clearly unable
03:30:59to control himself, he is unfit for his position, and therefore our movement
03:31:03demands his removal. This process must be ended
03:31:06, which Captain Szilveszter Pálinkár started, who
03:31:10also engaged in prohibited political activity, made statements in uniform
03:31:14, and then appeared on stage at a campaign event.
03:31:18Instead of punishment, however, he was promoted , which caused very serious
03:31:21tension among the personnel of the Hungarian Armed Forces as well, since
03:31:25Rusin Sendi Romalus became the Deputy Chief of Cabinet to the Minister of Defense
03:31:28, even though according to the paragraph of
03:31:31Government Decree 137/2024 on the legal status of soldiers,
03:31:34members of the armed forces may not engage in political activity
03:31:38why are the laws not observed? I await
03:31:42your substantive answer and action.
03:31:45Thank you very much, Mr. Representative. Now I give the floor to the
03:31:49Secretary of State. in a four-minute time limit, please, the floor is yours.
03:31:52Esteemed Madam President, esteemed House, esteemed Representative, a few days ago
03:31:56you defended Viktor Orbán from the committee hearing, and now you are speaking again
03:32:00in connection with him, demanding an immediate verdict
03:32:02. I increasingly feel that you interpret your parliamentary work
03:32:06as the legal representation of Viktor Orbán as his defense lawyer
03:32:09. There are often vacancies in the neighboring faction, I think
03:32:12it's time for you to apply for a position. There was no
03:32:15kérdésben nem lett vita közöttünk. A magyar honvédségnek pártpolitikától
03:32:18függetlenül kell. és az állomány tagjaira vonatkozó szabályokat
03:32:22mindenkire egységesen kell alkalmazni, de valamit tegyünk
03:32:26rögtön világossá, a katona és állampolgár, civilben neki is
03:32:29lehet magánvéleménye. Más kérdés, hogy ezt hol, milyen
03:32:33formában és milyen minőségében fejezi ki. Egyen ruhában,
03:32:36szolgálati helyen, vagy szolgálati minőségben szigorú szabályok
03:32:39érvényesülnek. Ha pedig felmerül ezek megsértésének a gyanúja, azt ki kell
03:32:43vizsgálni, és a tények alapján kell megítélni. Mint azt ön is
03:32:47bizonyára tudja, Apáti Zoltán vezérőr nagyon. "magyar honvédség nagy
03:32:51tapasztalattal rendelkező tábornoka, ha szabályt
03:32:53sértett, annak következményét viselni fogja, de azt nem fogadjuk el, hogy
03:32:57egy politikus előre meghatározza egy állami szervezet vizsgálatának az
03:33:00eredményét és az abból következő személyi döntést.
03:33:04Ön ugyanis interpellációjában már Apáti Zoltán leváltását
03:33:07követeli, ebben azért érzek némi ellentmondást,
03:33:11miközben
03:33:12a,
03:33:17miközben a honvédség politikai semlegességé. kéri számom,
03:33:20politikusként egy konkrét személy döntést követ el a honvédségtől. Tudja,
03:33:24ha jogáli működést akarunk, akkor előbb tényeket kell megállapítani, majd a
03:33:28szabályok szerint eljárni, és nem fordítva a politikai elváráshoz igazítva
03:33:32a követ. Különösen érdekes ez az
03:33:35intervallációt öntől
03:33:36hallani.
03:33:41Különösen érdekes ezt az interpellációt éppen öntől hallani,
03:33:44aki rendszeresen hivatkozik honvédség kötődésére, miközben egy politikai
03:33:47párt prominens képviselője és a politikai tevékenysége során újra és újra
03:33:51bevonja a magyar honvédség ügyeit a pártpolitikai térbe. A magyar
03:33:55honvédség nem lesz sem kormánypárti, sem ellenzéki
03:33:58politika eszköze. Láthattuk mindannyian a Fidesz kormányzása. hogy hová
03:34:02vezet, amikor politikai megrendelésre rángatják színjátékokba
03:34:06az állomány tagjait. Ezzel a gyakorlattal szakítottunk, és nem
03:34:10szeretnénk az ön kedvéért sem újrakezdeni. Visszatérve
03:34:13a kérdésére, ha történt szabálysértés, annak legyen következménye, de
03:34:17hogy történt-e, és mi legyen a következménye, azt ne egy hangos politikus, főleg ne a
03:34:21politikai megrendelés dönts el, hanem a tények, a jogszabályok és
03:34:24szabályos eljárás. Hagyjuk meg a magyar honvédséget annak, ami
03:34:28Magyarország köztiszteletben álló fegyveres erejének, egy olyan
03:34:31közösség. amelynek tagjai nap mint nap bizonyítják, mit jelent a
03:34:35szolgálat, ha kell vizet osztanak, ha kell tüzet
03:34:37oltanak, ha kell mederküszöböt építenek, és minden körülmények között
03:34:41a hazájukat szolgálják. Ez szolgálat pedig nem pártpolitikai
03:34:45díszlet, hanem hivatás. Képviselő úr, ha már ennyire
03:34:48érzékeny lett a közösségi médiában megjelenő politikai véleményekre, legyen
03:34:52következetes. Ha egy katona a mi hazánk valamely politikai tartalmát
03:34:56kedveli, ugyanilyen határozottsággal követelné felelősségre vonását,
03:35:00vagy csak akkor válik problémává a vélemén nyilvání. amikor annak tartalma
03:35:03politikailag kellemetlen. Ön a politikusként üzemeltetett
03:35:07közösségi média oldalán az április 14-én frissített
03:35:10borítóképén egyenruhában áll határkerítés mellett. Ön
03:35:14az, aki szeptember 19-én megosztott bejegyzésében mi hazánkos
03:35:18zászló mellett viseli a magyar honvédség egyen ruháját. Reméljük,
03:35:22ezeket a képeket nem törli, mint azt a bejegyzést, amelyben Szentendreri
03:35:25laktanyában Szentender város zászláját ukrán zászlóval keverte
03:35:28össze. Képviselő úr, mielőtt kritizál és ítélkezik.
03:35:32kérem, először saját házatájáljen rendet.
03:35:34Köszönöm.
03:35:41Köszönöm szépen.
03:35:44Köszönöm szépen államtitkár úr. Most megkérdezem a képviselőt, hogy elfogadja-e
03:35:47a választ. Egy perces időkeretben megadom a szót.
03:35:51Államtitkár úr, nem tudom elfogadni azt a védekezését, hogy a magyar
03:35:55honvédség harmadik emberének civilben lehet véleménye,
03:35:58és Facebook-on egészen markáns politikai nyilatkozatokat tehet.
03:36:01Fordított hely. ben viszont igen is azt gondolom az a helyes, hogyha egy országgyűlési képviselő, mondjuk a
03:36:05honvédelmi bizottság tagjaként én aggódom a honvédség létszámhiánya
03:36:09miatt, akkor nagyon helyes, hogy vállaltam, hogy én nem
03:36:12elefántcsontoronyból hozzam meg a döntéseket, hanem vállaltam országgyűlési képviselőként,
03:36:16egyedüliként azt az alapkiképzést, amit tartalékosként elvégezhettem,
03:36:20addig, amíg egyébként épp a Fidesz kormány egy ilyen Lex Novák elődddel
03:36:24összeférhetetlennél nem tette az országgyűlési
03:36:26képviselőséget - a - a
03:36:30tartalékos jogviszonnyal ezért.
03:36:32valóban már nem vagyok a honvédség tagja, de mint
03:36:35kiképzett tartalékosként
03:36:38bizonyos keretek között mégis csak a
03:36:41honvédség része vagyok, viszont azt gondolom, hogy különbséget kell tenni a magyar
03:36:45honvédség harmadik embere között, aki hivatásos, és a tartalékosok
03:36:49igenis véleményt nyilváníthatnak politikai kérdésekben
03:36:52is, ezt ön is nagyon jól tudja, tehát legyen szíves, ne keverje össze ezt a két
03:36:55jogállást, mert nagyon komoly különbség van, mi hazánkat
03:36:59szolgáljuk, elvárjuk, hogy a honvédek is ezt tegyék és ne maradjon következmények. nélkül,
03:37:02hogyha a politika vetület területére tévednek, mint tette ezt pálinkár százados
03:37:06úr, akit önök előléptettek bármilyen következmények helyett, éppen ezért
03:37:10a válaszát nem tudom elfogadni. Köszönöm szépen, képviselő
03:37:13úr. Miután Novák előd nem fogadta el a
03:37:17választ, kérdezem tisztelettel az Országgyűlést, hogy elfogadja-e a választ,
03:37:20kérem szavazzanak most.
03:37:33Köszönöm. Megállapítom és kihirdetem az Országgyűlés
03:37:35határozatát. Az Országgyűlés 126 igen
03:37:38szavazattal, 50 nem szavazattal és nulla
03:37:41tartózkodással elfogadta a választ. Hende
03:37:45Máté a Tisza képviselője interpellációt nyújtott be a
03:37:48pénzügyminiszterhez. Mit várhatunk a kata
03:37:50kibővítésétől címmel? Hende Máté képviselő urat illeti a
03:37:54szó, három perces időkeretben.
03:37:58Köszönöm a szót, tisztelt elnök asszony, tisztelt miniszter úr.
03:38:01Igen, a kata adózás. sokakat érint és sokakat izgat,
03:38:05ezért most én is ebben a kérdésben érkezek
03:38:08korábbi felszólalással azonosan. a magyar gazdaság
03:38:12gerincét a kisvállalkozók, szorgalmas hétköznapi emberek
03:38:15adják. ők azok a fodrászok, futárok,
03:38:18grafikusok, szakmunkások és kisiparosok, akik korán
03:38:22kelnek, későn fekszenek, és a hátukon viszik
03:38:25az országot. azt hiszem,
03:38:29tisztességes munka megbecsülése és a...
03:38:32családok megélhetésének biztosítása közös nemzeti
03:38:35érdekünk. Sajnos a közelmúltban ezek az emberek
03:38:39elveszítették a biztonság érzetüket. Egy
03:38:42meggondolatlan, a stabilitást felborító. döntés miatt nagyon
03:38:46sokan kiszorultak kedvező adózási formából,
03:38:50megélhetésük pedig veszélybe került. Mi, a tiszában
03:38:53azt vállaljuk, valljuk, hogy az államnak nem akadályoznia,
03:38:57hanem támogatnia kell a boldogulni vágyókat.
03:39:01Büszke vagyok arra, hogy amit a programunkban megígértünk,
03:39:04azt most kormányzati szinten végrehajtjuk.
03:39:07Megígértük, hogy a magyar vállalkozók végre
03:39:10kiszámíthatóságot, és tisztességes feltételeket
03:39:13kapnak, és most. is tartjuk szavunkat. Tisztelt
03:39:17miniszter úr, mivel a magyar vállalkozók megérdemlik a tiszta
03:39:20viszonyokat, a tisztán látás érdekében kérem, hogy adjon
03:39:24részletes tájékoztatást az országgyűlésnek az alábbiakban.
03:39:28Mikortól és milyen bevételi értékhatárral lesz újra elérhető
03:39:31a Kata. Milyen adóterhekkel számolhatnak a jövőben a
03:39:35mellékállású és a főállású vállalkozók? Hogyan oldja meg a
03:39:38kormány a cégek felé történő számlázás kérdését, és milyen
03:39:42konkrét garanciákat kapnak a katások a...
03:39:45társadalombiztosítási ellátásaik, például a táppénz és a
03:39:48nyugdíj tekintetében. Várom megtisztelő válaszát.
03:39:52Köszönöm. Köszönöm
03:39:54szépen.
03:39:57Köszönöm szépen képviselő úr. Most megadom a szót Kármán András pénzügyminiszternek.
03:40:01Parancsoljon. Öné a szó, négy perces időkeretben.
03:40:04Thank you for the floor, Madam President. Esteemed
03:40:07National Assembly, esteemed Representative, thank you for
03:40:10your question. I completely agree with you that small businesses
03:40:14form the backbone of the Hungarian economy
03:40:17, and we want a tax system that
03:40:20increases their freedom to do business , but also means
03:40:24fair public contributions and real social security protection
03:40:28. In 2022
03:40:32, the number of KATA taxpayers fell from about 45,000
03:40:35to a fraction, today 130-140 thousand people use KATA in
03:40:39the draft law submitted for social consultation
03:40:42, this circle will be significantly expanded
03:40:46next year. And then I will try to answer your questions
03:40:50in order. First, the new rules
03:40:53will come into force on January 1, 2027, the annual
03:40:56revenue threshold will increase from 18 million
03:40:59to 22 million forints , and
03:41:03KATA taxpayers will be able to invoice companies and
03:41:05organizations again. Secondly,
03:41:09part-time entrepreneurs
03:41:12, i.e., entrepreneurs working alongside employment, pensioners
03:41:15and full-time students will pay
03:41:1850,000 forints per month, and full-time
03:41:21entrepreneurs will pay
03:41:23a fixed tax of 10,000 forints per month
03:41:26. Those who are KATA taxpayers at the end of
03:41:292026 will pay taxes according to transitional rules
03:41:33until the end of 2028 , more favorably,
03:41:3675,000 per month in 2027,
03:41:39and 100,000 forints per month in 2028
03:41:42. Thirdly.
03:41:46"We will make company invoicing possible. A
03:41:49supplementary tax of 15% will be levied on revenue from
03:41:52payers , but this fixed tax will be
03:41:56fully included in it. Thus, for
03:41:59full-time employees, there will be no additional tax up to 8 million
03:42:02forints of company revenue per year, and for part-time employees, up to 4 million
03:42:06forints per year . The
03:42:08disguised employment will be protected against by the fact that
03:42:12the status will cease if at least half of the revenue comes from
03:42:15a single client , or if the entrepreneur continues
03:42:18to work for their former employer. Fourth, the
03:42:22guarantees. Today , the benefit base for KATA taxpayers
03:42:26is only 18,000 forints per month, one third of the minimum wage. According to
03:42:30the transitional rules, this will increase to
03:42:3316,100 in 2027, and to
03:42:3621,500 forints in 2028 . In the New
03:42:39KATA, it will be 317 forints already in 2027
03:42:43, that is, it will be only three times the current benefit
03:42:46base. Thus, a KATA taxpayer's sick pay can increase from
03:42:5064,800 forints per month to 96,600 forints
03:42:53already during the transitional period , and their pension will also be
03:42:57correspondingly higher . In
03:42:59summary, the government will not only restore and
03:43:03extend KATA, but will also ensure that those who
03:43:07work honestly and pay taxes
03:43:10are not left alone in case of illness, childbirth,
03:43:13or retirement. I ask for your acceptance of my answer.
03:43:17Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr.
03:43:20Minister. I respectfully ask the representative if he accepts
03:43:24the answer . Please,
03:43:26the floor is yours. Esteemed Minister, thank you for
03:43:30the answer. Allow me to share a personal experience
03:43:33as well. I myself was a KATA entrepreneur a long time ago,
03:43:36and I experienced the uncertainty when Fidesz prohibited us from
03:43:40working for companies with a single stroke of the pen . It affected
03:43:43countless colleagues and me extremely negatively that
03:43:47they took away our opportunity for free prosperity , all this
03:43:50in the middle of the tax year . That is why
03:43:53what we are now implementing with this proposal is a huge step forward
03:43:57. More than 10,000 small taxpayers finally get their
03:44:01freedom back by being able to issue invoices to companies
03:44:04again, but what is even more important, we are giving back
03:44:08the social security of entrepreneurs. Thanks to
03:44:11the increased benefit base , KATA taxpayers do not have to
03:44:14fear illness, as they are entitled to real sick pay
03:44:18and can build a decent pension
03:44:21for themselves. The social consultation lasts until October 14th
03:44:24, I encourage all affected parties to take advantage of
03:44:27this opportunity. Minister, thank you very much for your work, I accept
03:44:31your answer, thank you. Thank you very much, Mr.
03:44:34Representative. Bálint Nagy, representative of Fidesz
03:44:38, submitted an interpellation to the Minister of Finance
03:44:42entitled "Tax increase for the smallest ". Mr. Representative Bálint Nagy has the floor
03:44:45for three minutes , please. Thank you very much
03:44:48for the floor. Esteemed Madam President, esteemed House, esteemed Minister
03:44:52, unfortunately it has begun, your tax increase
03:44:55package has arrived, which includes the increase in the fixed tax for small
03:44:59individual entrepreneurs as well. All this is happening
03:45:02cloaked in the usual guise from you, under
03:45:05the banner of social justice. According to
03:45:08the proposal, the rate of KATA tax will be doubled in several steps
03:45:11, as has been said several times today , from 500 forints
03:45:15to 10,000 forints. This means a drastic change
03:45:18and poses a serious challenge to micro-enterprises, including
03:45:21hairdressers, music teachers, and for example, taxi drivers
03:45:25as well. It seems that you are desperately
03:45:28seizing every opportunity to collect money from people. You are doing all this
03:45:32despite promising the opposite. Tax increases threaten jobs
03:45:36and will lead the Hungarian economy to ruin
03:45:39. Your bill caused a huge
03:45:42uproar. Taxi drivers also spoke out, as the higher
03:45:46tax burden poses a serious challenge for them. Taxi
03:45:49passenger transport providers already face high
03:45:52material costs , as servicing a car is not
03:45:55cheap.
03:45:59also burdened by record high fuel prices , meaning their
03:46:02daily net income is showing a decreasing trend, they are losing
03:46:06revenue, while their expenses are only
03:46:09increasing. You did not promise this, esteemed Minister. Our
03:46:13position is clear, Hungarian jobs must be preserved, and taxes
03:46:16should not be raised, but lowered. This alone
03:46:20can be the basis of a responsible economic policy . Therefore, I ask
03:46:24the Minister, based on what has been said , what economic
03:46:27indications led to the decision to resort to tax increases
03:46:30, what economic stimulus
03:46:33measures have been taken in recent months to avoid these
03:46:36tax increases , and what message do you have
03:46:39for taxi drivers who rightfully feel that the situation they are in
03:46:42due to, among other things, the increase in fuel prices
03:46:46, is unjust, and now you are burdening them with tax increases
03:46:49? I await your esteemed answer, thank you for the floor.
03:46:53Thank you very much, Mr. Representative, now I give the floor to Mr. Kármán
03:46:57in a four-minute time limit, please.
03:47:01Madam President, thank you again for the floor.
03:47:05Esteemed National Assembly, esteemed Representative.
03:47:07úr.
03:47:10In my opinion, responsible economic policy is not about
03:47:13preserving privileges, but about fair
03:47:16public contributions and the
03:47:19real long-term security
03:47:21of entrepreneurs. In the past 16 years,
03:47:24large companies received significant
03:47:27multi-billion, ten-billion forint subsidies and multi-year
03:47:31tax breaks , while small businesses
03:47:34found it increasingly difficult to stay afloat.
03:47:38It was your government that restricted KATA in 2022
03:47:41, almost overnight
03:47:44, forcing hundreds of thousands of entrepreneurs
03:47:47out of this tax regime, and Mr. Representative
03:47:50personally voted for this law
03:47:52. The draft submitted for social consultation
03:47:56"corrects this error
03:48:00". From January 1, 2027 , KATA will again
03:48:03be available to part-time entrepreneurs,
03:48:07pensioners, and full-time students, with a fixed
03:48:11tax of 50,000 forints per month. KATA taxpayers
03:48:14will again be able to invoice companies and organizations
03:48:18, and we will raise the annual revenue limit
03:48:21from 18 million to 22 million forints . It is true
03:48:24that the tax of full-time KATA taxpayers
03:48:27will increase for the first time in 13 years
03:48:30, but the reason for this is simple: the current
03:48:33system, in exchange for minimal payments, provides almost
03:48:37no social security protection. Those who
03:48:40get sick, expect a child , or retire, will
03:48:44face the fact that their benefits
03:48:47will be a fraction of those of employees. Therefore, along
03:48:51with the fixed tax, the benefit base will also increase to
03:48:54317 forints per month which means real
03:48:58sick pay, maternity benefits, and a predictable
03:49:02pension . To
03:49:04taxi drivers and KATA residential
03:49:06service providers , I say
03:49:10that we are not making changes overnight as your government did
03:49:14in 2022
03:49:15. Anyone
03:49:18currently a KATA taxpayer will be able to pay taxes
03:49:21under transitional rules for another two years , until the end of 2028
03:49:25, while their benefit
03:49:28base will already significantly increase. For KATA taxpayers
03:49:31working for companies, the 15%
03:49:35supplementary tax will fully include the fixed
03:49:38tax, so an additional
03:49:40tax "will only arise for company revenue above 8 million forints
03:49:43per year. As for your question
03:49:46regarding economic stimulus measures
03:49:49. In the past six months, we have brought home
03:49:53previously closed European Union funds, we have put an end
03:49:56to the rule of privilege in public procurement,
03:50:02honest entrepreneurs . We pursue a predictable
03:50:05budget policy , which is also confirmed by the decrease
03:50:09in government bonds and the strengthening
03:50:11of the forint. We are building an economic environment
03:50:14in which not political connections , but real performance
03:50:18is the key to success . Mr.
03:50:21Representative, KATA is a voluntary
03:50:24, preferential tax regime, and it will
03:50:28remain so. A fair tax system and real
03:50:31social security do not drive the economy
03:50:34into a wall, but provide stability for
03:50:37businesses. The government
03:50:40provides this stability to the smallest entrepreneurs,
03:50:43and yes, to taxi drivers as well. I ask for your
03:50:47acceptance of my answer.
03:50:51Thank you very much, Minister, I ask the representative if he accepts
03:50:55the answer. In a one- minute time limit, the floor is
03:50:58yours.
03:51:03Thank you very much for the floor, esteemed Madam President, esteemed Minister,
03:51:06well, I think I can say on behalf of many small entrepreneurs that it is an
03:51:10interesting way for the government to help small entrepreneurs by doubling
03:51:13their taxes. I think they did not expect such help
03:51:17, and moreover, you did not promise such help, so
03:51:20considering that no matter how many beautiful words you use, the
03:51:24end result is still that you will raise taxes, and the tax increase
03:51:27will jeopardize jobs, and this will affect the Hungarian economy
03:51:31very negatively, therefore I cannot accept your answer, thank you very much for
03:51:35the floor. Thank you very much, Mr. Representative
03:51:38, thank you. Very much. Representative
03:51:41Bálint Nagy did not accept the answer to the interpellation
03:51:44, so I respectfully ask the National Assembly if it accepts
03:51:48the answer, please vote now.
03:52:01Thank you. I declare and announce the resolution
03:52:04of the National Assembly. The National Assembly accepted the answer
03:52:07with 124 yes votes , 48 no votes, and no
03:52:10abstentions. Dr. Csaba Latorcai
03:52:13, representative of the KDMP , submitted an interpellation
03:52:17to the Minister for Social and Family Affairs , entitled "Why was the
03:52:21home care allowance not increased by 50%?".
03:52:24Dr. Csaba Latorcai, representative, has the floor. In a three-minute
03:52:27time limit. Please. Thank you for the floor, esteemed Madam President, esteemed
03:52:31Secretary of State, in the past two years, Péter Magyar made
03:52:34more than a thousand promises at his campaign
03:52:38forums and in writing for the Tisza Party . Among these
03:52:42are some where something did happen , but not
03:52:45as and not when they promised, such as
03:52:49the school start allowance, the compared to the promise, for far fewer
03:52:52children, or the abolition of VAT on medicines,
03:52:55from which prescription drugs were completely excluded,
03:52:59and among the promises there are many that they said
03:53:03would be implemented immediately, but unfortunately
03:53:06nothing yet, such as their promise
03:53:10regarding the home care allowance, which I learned about
03:53:13through an inquiry from a voter,
03:53:16who cares for her own mother with incredible
03:53:20dedication, but as she said,
03:53:23she was waiting for an immediate increase in the home care allowance,
03:53:27but she has given up on it, she basically
03:53:30accepted that she was deceived in this too,
03:53:34but I thought I would ask about it and look
03:53:37it up, and indeed Péter Magyar said in Miskolc
03:53:40on September 23rd last year that the home care allowance
03:53:44would be immediately increased by 50%.
03:53:46Prime Minister, a few weeks ago here in parliament
03:53:50he considered his previous statements less important,
03:53:53he rather spoke about the literal program
03:53:57being there, let's rather
03:54:00deal with what is written there, because
03:54:03not everything was said to be immediate.
03:54:06Well, we looked at what the Tisza
03:54:10program writes about home care. We can read the following
03:54:13in it among the commitments related to pensions:
03:54:16immediate targeted income-increasing,
03:54:20income-increasing and fair... measures will be introduced
03:54:24for pensioners, and indeed, the sentence
03:54:28referring to home care is also found here,
03:54:31next to their promise for a senior citizen card,
03:54:35which also has no trace. I quote, we will increase
03:54:39home care allowances by 50%, helping the almost
03:54:42600 families who care for their elderly
03:54:45loved ones and sick children.
03:54:48So it was about immediate targeted
03:54:51measures. Esteemed State Secretary,
03:54:55and the 6000 families you mentioned are still
03:54:58waiting for the increase after five months.
03:55:01Therefore, I respectfully ask,
03:55:04why have you not fulfilled your commitment to an immediate
03:55:0750% increase in the home care allowance, and if you are
03:55:10not helping families with an immediate
03:55:1450% increase in the home care allowance,
03:55:17help them? I await your honorable
03:55:21reply. Thank you very much.
03:55:24Now I give the floor
03:55:27to Dr. Tímea Barna Szabó, State Secretary.
03:55:31The floor is yours, for four minutes. Thank you
03:55:34very much for the floor. Madam Speaker, Honourable House,
03:55:38Honourable Member. I confess, I am listening
03:55:42with some astonishment that you are already making false
03:55:45claims in your question. Let's establish that
03:55:48from September 1st, the Tisza medicines.
03:55:52You are now calling us to account on behalf of the political
03:55:55community that had 16 years to
03:55:58create dignified conditions for home care.
03:56:04about valuing families, protecting them, and the
03:56:07social value of care, only for there
03:56:10to remain a huge gap between the lofty
03:56:14words and the daily reality of families,
03:56:17while you spoke about the importance of care,
03:56:20thousands of families experienced day in and day out
03:56:24what it is like when the full burden of care
03:56:27falls on them. You had 16 years to
03:56:31strengthen home help, make relieving
03:56:34services accessible, and create dignified
03:56:37financial security for family members providing home
03:56:42not create this system that would provide real
03:56:45help and security to all affected families.
03:56:49And now you are asking why the 50% increase
03:56:53has not yet happened. Of course, you have the right
03:56:57to raise the question, but you cannot leave
03:57:00your political responsibility outside the walls of this
03:57:03chamber. You are turning the appreciation of family
03:57:06members providing home care into a communication,
03:57:10political communication product, even though for 16 years you
03:57:13have not dealt with them or any other segment of
03:57:17the social sector. We only need to think, for example,
03:57:21of the sad situation of child protection, but we are
03:57:23not producing campaign slogans, but rather
03:57:27taking on state and social responsibility,
03:57:30and what have we done so far? We have increased
03:57:33the minimum pension, the allowance for the elderly,
03:57:37we have introduced the school starting support,
03:57:40which you were unable to provide for Hungarian children
03:57:43living in Hungary, we have reduced the VAT on
03:57:46firewood, and I have already clarified that of prescription
03:57:50medicines, and all this within five months of
03:57:53governing, because we
03:57:56work of those families who have been caring
03:57:59for their loved ones for years, decades, however,
03:58:03the opportunities for families
03:58:07it matters what condition the cared-for person is in,
03:58:10what intensity of care they need, and what
03:58:14help the family has access to, therefore our department
03:58:16conducts a comprehensive situational assessment of the
03:58:20functioning of the social care system, and based
03:58:24on this, we intend to determine the directions for
03:58:27renewing monetary benefits and services. Our basic
03:58:31principle is clear, whoever needs care
03:58:34should receive appropriate help for as long as possible in their
03:58:38own home, preserving their family and community
03:58:41ties. The government continues to consider it
03:58:45an important task to improve the financial recognition
03:58:48of family members providing home care, and maintains
03:58:55its commitment to a 50% increase in the care allowance. The
03:58:58schedule of the increase and the necessary budgetary
03:59:01resources must be decided taking into account the
03:59:05ongoing professional preparation. We are creating
03:59:08a fairer, more predictable system that responds to
03:59:11real needs, a system in which caring for a
03:59:15relative does not equate to impoverishment,
03:59:18exclusion from work and social life,
03:59:22as it did under your government. Esteemed Member,
03:59:26thank you for your attention. Please choose
03:59:29for acceptance. Thank you very much, State
03:59:32Secretary, now I ask the Member whether he
03:59:36accepts the State Secretary's answer, you have one minute.
03:59:39Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, Esteemed State
03:59:42Secretary, I cannot accept your answer. And not because
03:59:46I indeed misspoke in the question, and the VAT
03:59:49on non-prescription drugs was ultimately not reduced
03:59:53compared to what you promised, but because the State
03:59:56Secretary in her answer only tried to deflect.
04:00:00By the way, I would like to say that
04:00:03we increased the home care
04:00:05allowance for children exactly ninefold, from
04:00:093500 to over 32000 Forints.
04:00:12For example, this trend could be followed for
04:00:16the care of the elderly as well, but please
04:00:19do not distract, you promised the voters
04:00:22in the program with which you won the election
04:00:26that you would increase the home care allowance
04:00:30by 50%, but you did not,
04:00:34neither immediately nor by 50%, there are two possibilities, either you were not serious, which is called a lie, or if you were serious but did not do it, then you are not capable of governing, neither is good, in this case, both are irrelevant, the...