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00:01:06Hello, good afternoon viewers. The controversy surrounding Vice President Gibran Rakabuming Raka's diploma
00:01:10has not yet ended. The spotlight has turned to the regulations for presidential
00:01:14and vice presidential candidacies, which are said to contain alleged
00:01:17smuggled clauses related to educational requirements. This contested
00:01:21article raises questions about how such provisions
00:01:24could emerge, whether the formation process was in accordance
00:01:27with procedures, and whether it is related to... Gibran's
00:01:31educational requirements. This information will be our main discussion in Primetime News at this time,
00:01:35with me, Zilvia Iskandar, and later with our colleague, Evando.
00:01:38We begin today's Primetime News with a Primetime Flash. The first Primetime Flash,
00:01:42viewers, we will immediately see related to the militant volunteer
00:01:46group Gibran 08 Nusantara, who visited Joko
00:01:49which one is actually Widodo's private residence to report on the results
00:01:52of the Constitutional Court's decision regarding Vice President Gibran Rakabuming
00:01:56Raka's diploma. The General Chairman of the militant volunteer group Gibran 08
00:01:59Nusantara, Andi Aswan, reiterated that the possibility of impeachment
00:02:03against Vice President Gibran is very small and stated that the validity
00:02:06of Gibran's diploma is very clear and transparent, so it does not need
00:02:10to be doubted by the public.
00:02:13Next, the second Prime Flash is related to the resistance of
00:02:17Yemen's Ansarullah against the Saudi Arabian aggressors, which has not ended
00:02:20after Saudi bombed Sana'a Airport and cut off
00:02:24humanitarian aid routes in Yemen. Now, Ansarullah has targeted King Khalid
00:02:27International Airport in Riyadh.
00:02:32Next, we will see a Prime Flash regarding the aftermath of a fire
00:02:35that burned down around 500 residents' homes due to forest and land fires
00:02:39in Bangka Selatan district. Hundreds of residents on Monday afternoon
00:02:42returned to their respective homes
00:02:45to sift through the remains of salvageable
00:02:47items. Previously, on Saturday, forest and land fires
00:02:51that hit Serdang Hamlet in Bangka Selatan district
00:02:55spread to residential areas. Viewers,
00:02:59we will discuss this later, but before that, let's start Primetime News with
00:03:14affecting the Tanjung Puting National Park area in Kotawaringin Barat,
00:03:17Central Kalimantan, are
00:03:19expanding.
00:03:23Aerial footage that
00:03:25we will show indicates that forest fires from two areas
00:03:28in Tanjung Puting National Park are estimated to have affected
00:03:32an area of 54,000 hectares and continue
00:03:35to spread.
00:03:42Limited personnel and equipment are hindering firefighting efforts.
00:03:45The Kotawaringin Barat City Government has designated three
00:03:49areas as priority for handling
00:03:52there, that due to being the largest contributors of smoke. These three
00:03:54areas are Pangkalan Bun Road, Kotawaringin Lama City, Tanjung
00:03:58Putri Village, and the Tanjung
00:04:01the House of Puting National Park area. The regional government is requesting
00:04:04assistance from the central government to immediately extinguish the expanding
00:04:07forest and land fires.
00:04:13I swear as
00:04:15indeed, what a witness.
00:04:19There was no intention, no view, nothing
00:04:22at all, no motive to pass someone or facilitate
00:04:26someone in this situation. The article that was
00:04:30smuggled, the article related to the candidacy process,
00:04:33was also not part of the public hearing process, and then it was also not
00:04:37part of the RDP process, but during the harmonization process,
00:04:41it suddenly
00:04:42appeared.
00:04:46Yes, an RDP with all election
00:04:49organizers should be held immediately.
00:04:52We will show the public which one is actually
00:04:55considered not smuggled and which one is smuggled. That's the most
00:05:00important thing now. I will continue
00:05:03to focus on working for
00:05:06the community and making a success of
00:05:09the vision, mission, and programs of Mr. President.
00:05:20Viewers, the General Chairman of the Militant Gibran 08 Nusantara Volunteers,
00:05:23Andi Aswan, visited the private residence of the 7th President of Indonesia, Joko
00:05:27Widodo, on Monday morning. He came with his legal team
00:05:31to report on the results of the Constitutional Court's decision regarding Vice President
00:05:34Gibran Rakabuming Raka's
00:05:35diploma.
00:06:14So friends, and also all Indonesian people,
00:06:17speak up
00:06:19to face all of this, that
00:06:21the truth must be fought for, because if
00:06:24not, those people who spread news,
00:06:27news that is also
00:06:30chaotic
00:06:32politics, whose real aim is to
00:06:35overthrow us, the direction is from
00:06:38Mas
00:06:42Prabowo. Those are the intentions, whoever the person is,
00:06:45whatever the organization, we must join
00:06:48hands, because we must not allow all government programs
00:06:52to get stuck, and whatever mandate has been given
00:06:56to the government must be a shared responsibility, not just
00:06:59the government's, but all Indonesian people's to
00:07:01prosper.
00:07:04Several civil society elements met with the Golkar Party faction
00:07:07to urge the use of the inquiry right against Vice President Gibran Rakabuming
00:07:11Raka, regarding the Constitutional Court's decision. The spokesperson
00:07:15for the Civil Society Alliance, Rai Rangkuti, stated that the alliance is pushing
00:07:19the DPR to use its inquiry right to investigate alleged legal violations
00:07:22or the non-fulfillment of position requirements. According to Rai
00:07:26Rangkuti, the inquiry right is necessary as an initial step to
00:07:30clarify the issue of Gibran's diploma in an official DPR
00:07:33forum. This aims to clarify the differences
00:07:37in statements between the Constitutional Court's decision and Gibran's supporters' claims,
00:07:41as well as to evaluate the performance of the KPU and the government
00:07:44based on Article 7a and Article 7b, and the court cannot be presented
00:07:48recently.
00:07:51We have discussed it.
00:07:54Okay, if we have discussed it, let's open it in the minutes
00:07:57so we can see the recording of how
00:08:01that particular article was discussed.
00:08:04K. Now, according to us, the inquiry right is not just
00:08:07about the end of the process, but also about correcting
00:08:11the system. We correct the election organizers,
00:08:15but more than that, it is about providing a space
00:08:18for Mr. Jokowi's family to
00:08:21restore their good name.
00:08:25It's useless for them
00:08:28to bring as many supporters as possible
00:08:32to refute
00:08:35the Constitutional Court's decision. The hot potato of Vice President Gibran Rakabuming
00:08:38Raka's diploma controversy has rolled into parliament. The legal
00:08:42counsel for the Vice President's diploma plaintiff, Ahmad Qozinuddin, asked
00:08:45the DPR RI to review the complaint through
00:08:48the applicable state administration
00:08:51mechanism. Ahmad Qozinuddin claimed that the DPR RI could
00:08:54consider the right to express an opinion without having
00:08:57to be preceded by an inquiry right, but that step is still a proposal
00:09:01from the complainant. Kozinuddin explained that the complaint
00:09:04submitted covers two aspects, namely alleged legal issues related
00:09:08to educational equivalency documents and questions
00:09:11regarding the fulfillment of requirements.
00:09:42needs to be revealed by the DPR, but in our opinion,
00:09:45the DPR no longer needs to conduct an inquiry right, because what, the investigation has already
00:09:49been conducted by the Constitutional Court and the violation has been found by the Constitutional Court
00:09:53that the Vice President no longer meets the requirements. So, in our humble opinion,
00:09:56through the letter we sent, the DPR must immediately upgrade to
00:10:00what is called an HMP, H stating an opinion where
00:10:04the DPR RI's opinion states that the President has violated,
00:10:07the Vice President has violated the constitution because he no longer meets the requirements, then
00:10:11it is authorized by the Constitution and then in Article
00:10:148, it is followed up with an MPR RI session with two
00:10:17agendas simultaneously. Viewers, the Head of the Shah
00:10:21Ganda Nainggolan Communication Agency confirmed that Member of the Presidential Advisory Council,
00:10:25Rocky Gerung, agreed not to make statements asking Gibran
00:10:28Rakabuming Raka to resign from the position of Vice President.
00:10:32This assurance was conveyed by Syah Ganda after communicating directly
00:10:35by phone with Rocky Gerung. Syah Ganda
00:10:38explained that Rocky previously did not fully understand that
00:10:42the authority and advisory function of the Wantimpres institution also
00:10:45cover the position of Vice
00:10:47President.
00:10:52According to Syah Ganda, the understanding of the scope
00:10:56of the position is one of the things that Rocky needs to consider
00:11:00when making statements
00:11:00in public.
00:11:05Previously, Rocky Gerung suggested that Gibran Rakabuming Raka resign
00:11:09from the position of Vice President after the Constitutional Court's decision
00:11:12emerged. Rocky believes that Gibran's resignation could be
00:11:16an elegant step. He also argued that such a step
00:11:20has the potential to prevent mass anger.
00:11:23This view was conveyed by Rocky in a podcast aired on
00:11:27Akbar Faisal's YouTube channel.
00:11:38Viewers, the House of Representatives seems to be taking a wait
00:11:41and see approach to the political developments after the Constitutional Court's decision
00:11:45regarding Gibran's diploma lawsuit. The next political
00:11:48process depends heavily on the coalition, especially the Gerindra
00:11:52Party.
00:12:05The Constitutional Court handed over the follow-up to the decision regarding
00:12:09the educational requirement for the equivalent of a high school diploma for Vice President
00:12:12Gibran Rakabuming Raka to other authorized
00:12:16institutions. In its decision, the Constitutional Court could not disqualify
00:12:19Gibran Rakabuming Raka as Vice President, even though it did not find
00:12:22evidence of a high school diploma or equivalent.
00:12:25Based on the 1945 Constitution, this authority
00:12:29lies with the House of Representatives or DPR. PKS spokesperson
00:12:33Mustofa Faruk believes that the new facts from the Constitutional Court's
00:12:36decision regarding Gibran's diploma should be followed up by
00:12:39the DPR. This is actually not a matter of political
00:12:43residuals with Pak Jokowi and so on. This is a matter of a legal
00:12:46decision that has been established by the court,
00:12:50in this context, the Constitutional Court, and the Constitutional Court itself
00:12:54mandates to continue this to
00:12:57the authorized institution to continue to check
00:13:01again the related matter. So I think this is not
00:13:05related to political residuals and so on, but indeed we have
00:13:09a new fact that we also, oh, this is a
00:13:12matter that we all should be aware
00:13:15of. This has become a problem that apparently yesterday in
00:13:192024 there was a check that was not
00:13:22really done well and correctly, so to speak,
00:13:25so the Constitutional Court also mandates the related
00:13:29institutions to
00:13:31follow up. The General Chairman of the Nusantara Rampai
00:13:35Volunteers, Mardian Sasemar, claimed that the parties supporting Prabowo
00:13:39Gibran are still solid. Mardian reminded
00:13:42that the parties that lost in the 2024 presidential election
00:13:46should not use the momentum of the Constitutional Court's decision, which is considered
00:13:49to have no legal or
00:13:51constitutional order
00:13:54to follow up. Again, do not let
00:13:57those who are hurting, those who are very
00:14:01disappointed, those who truly feel defeated,
00:14:05try to justify any means, which in my opinion,
00:14:08is far from the legal and constitutional command of the Constitutional Court's
00:14:12decision. It's just about trying to
00:14:16seize, what do you call it, power
00:14:20that they couldn't win in a contest that has legitimately
00:14:23passed. Constitutionally, it has passed. If you want to win,
00:14:27fight again in 2029. Don't hijack the power of people who
00:14:30have fought together before. If residuals are to be
00:14:33denied, PKS can, but if it
00:14:36is so visible, it is very visible. Meanwhile, political
00:14:40analyst Nurul Fattah believes that parties in the DPR are waiting
00:14:43for political steps from the president as the coalition leader.
00:14:47The follow-up process in the DPR depends on the Gerindra
00:14:50party's steps. The solidity of coalition friends,
00:14:53the Prabowo coalition parties, is very solid. That doesn't mean they
00:14:57are, what do you call it, supporting Mas Gibran or defending
00:15:00Mas Gibran, no. I think they are waiting for the president's decision.
00:15:04The button is with the president, right? The main carriage
00:15:08is with Gerindra. If Gerindra presses the button
00:15:11to, what do you call it, roll out
00:15:14the inquiry right process and impeachment,
00:15:17for example, everyone will follow that direction,
00:15:20follow the current, I think, and this shows that
00:15:24these political parties are abandoning Mas Gibran,
00:15:28including abandoning Pak Jokowi. I think that's how I read
00:15:32it. Today, as of today, what you see is only
00:15:35the PSI party. Reporting Team, Metro
00:15:39TV.
00:15:43Information on thick yellowish haze due to
00:15:47forest and land fires is getting thicker, covering
00:15:51Kotawaringin Timur Regency, Central Kalimantan. Meanwhile, in Jambi,
00:15:54forest fires continue to spread.
00:16:06The fire is getting bigger, sir.
00:16:37Four helicopter water
00:16:39bombing
00:16:44units are still currently active
00:16:48in the national park area, in the border area
00:16:51between Sembilang National Park and Berbak National Park,
00:16:54then in Rantau Raso, then
00:16:58there are still some that have descended here in the Tahura
00:17:00area, the black wood war,
00:17:04that's also still there, and the one in Sungai Gelam was also there yesterday.
00:17:11Haze also covers several areas in
00:17:15Kotawaringin Timur Regency. The increasingly thick
00:17:18yellowish smoke from forest fires adds to the public's
00:17:21concern. Besides disrupting daily activities, this condition
00:17:24also poses a risk of causing health problems. The public
00:17:28in Kotawaringin Timur is advised to remain vigilant and prioritize
00:17:31health, reduce outdoor activities, and wear
00:17:35appropriate masks when they have to go out
00:17:38of the house. The
00:17:45smoke condition this Monday
00:17:48morning is quite thick
00:17:51every morning
00:17:54and quite concerning for
00:17:57breathing.
00:18:23Viewers, the General Election Commission denied allegations
00:18:26of a smuggled article in KPU Regulation Number 19 of
00:18:292023 concerning the requirements for presidential and vice-presidential
00:18:32candidates. Information and discussion will be presented after
00:18:36the break.
00:18:47Presented by!
00:21:58a witness.
00:22:03There was no intention, no view, nothing
00:22:06at all, no motive to pass someone or facilitate
00:22:10someone in this situation. The article that was
00:22:13smuggled, the article related to the candidacy process,
00:22:17was also not part of the public hearing process. And then it was also not
00:22:21part of the RDP process, but during the harmonization process,
00:22:25it suddenly
00:22:26appeared.
00:22:30Yes, let's immediately hold an RDP with all
00:22:34election organizers. We will show the public
00:22:39considered not smuggled and which one is smuggled. That's the most
00:22:43important thing now.
00:22:46I will continue to focus on working
00:22:50for the community and making a success of
00:22:53the vision, mission, and programs of Mr.
00:22:56President.
00:23:04You are back with us on Primetime News. Viewers, former KPU Chairman Hasyim
00:23:08Asy'ari denied smuggling Article 18 paragraph 3
00:23:11of KPU Regulation Number 19 of 2023. However, on the other
00:23:15hand, Commission 2 of the DPR RI claimed that the article
00:23:18was never discussed.
00:23:31The General Election Commission of the Republic of Indonesia denied allegations of a smuggled
00:23:35article in KPU Regulation Number 19 of
00:23:382023 concerning the requirements for presidential and vice-presidential
00:23:41candidates. The statement about the smuggled
00:23:45article emerged after Article 18 paragraph 3 of KPU Regulation Number 19 of
00:23:482023 was
00:23:59Article 18 paragraph 3 of KPU Regulation Number 19 of 2023.
00:24:02According to him, Ahmad Doli Kurnia, who at that time was the chairman of Commission 2 of the DPR
00:24:06RI, and Arsul Sani, who at that time was still a member of parliament, were involved in
00:24:10the RDP that discussed KPU Regulation 19 of 2023. Furthermore,
00:24:14he said that the KPU regulation was signed by many parties, including
00:24:17Ahmad Doli Kurniah, who at that time was
00:24:21the Chairman of Commission 2 of the DPR-RI.
00:24:23This statement was responded to by member of Commission 2 of the DPR RI, Ahmad Doli
00:24:27Kurnia. According to him, they did
00:24:30discuss KPU Regulation Number 19 of 2023 twice
00:24:33in the DPR. The first discussion took place in September
00:24:362023, before the Constitutional Court's decision Number 90
00:24:40regarding the age limit. The next discussion
00:24:42took place after the Constitutional Court's decision. However, he
00:24:46emphasized that after the two discussions, Article 18
00:24:49paragraph 3 was indeed not there.
00:24:53Currently, Doli admits that he is tracing Article 18 paragraph 3
00:24:56of KPU Regulation Number 19 of 2023. We want to state
00:25:00that, what do you call it,
00:25:05is alleged by the
00:25:08situation at the Constitutional Court is true. We have
00:25:12never found that article
00:25:15when the documents were submitted to
00:25:19us. Right? Indeed, every
00:25:22RDP has all members of Commission 2 present and there is a conclusion.
00:25:26Right? So later, the details,
00:25:29I will convey them at the appropriate
00:25:32time and forum where I can show
00:25:35when it was entered and,
00:25:38what do you call it, what the chronology was.
00:25:41Article 18 paragraph 3 of the General Election Commission
00:25:45Regulation stipulates that presidential or vice-presidential candidates who attended
00:25:48high school abroad do not need to show proof of graduation.
00:26:02The Constitutional Court stated that it did not find a diploma
00:26:06or other documents equivalent to a high school diploma
00:26:09or equivalent belonging to Vice President Gibran Rakabuming Raka. Vice
00:26:13Chairman of Commission 10, Lalu Hadrian Irfani, stated
00:26:15that Indonesia does not yet have regulations regarding the equivalency
00:26:18of foreign diplomas.
00:26:20Lalu initially highlighted the Ministry of Education and Culture regarding
00:26:24the equivalency of academic results of education abroad.
00:26:27He mentioned that the Ministry
00:27:02alone was used by the Ministry of Education at that time
00:27:06to translate academic grades
00:27:10for any foreign
00:27:13graduates to be recognized in our country.
00:27:17Now, because there are no clear
00:27:20rules or regulations, we in Commission 10
00:27:23are pushing for clear regulations so that
00:27:27there will be no more lawsuits to other institutions. We do not
00:27:31have clear rules for that. Then, how is the conversion done,
00:27:34then which ones can be converted, which ones cannot be converted,
00:27:38that also doesn't exist, only in the form of a ministerial regulation. We are also looking
00:27:42for this ministerial regulation, or whatever form it is,
00:27:46we haven't found it. So, learning from this
00:27:49incident, we in Commission 10 agree to include
00:27:52that regulation in the revision of the
00:27:54law.
00:27:57Viewers, the Constitutional Court's decision on the lawsuit regarding
00:28:01the high school diploma of Vice President Gibran Rakabuming Raka is over,
00:28:05but the problem is the alleged smuggling of Article 18 paragraph 3
00:28:09of KPU Regulation Number 19 of 2023. So, how did
00:28:12this article get into the regulations for presidential and vice-presidential
00:28:15candidacies? We are joined by the General Chairman of the Militant Gibran 08
00:28:18Nusantara, Andi Aswan, and then we also have
00:28:22with
00:28:25us a lecturer of constitutional law from Andalas
00:28:40you just met Pak Jokowi, right, in Solo? What did Pak Jokowi say about the Constitutional Court's decision
00:28:44regarding the high school diploma lawsuit against Gibran?
00:28:48Yes, we discussed a lot with
00:28:51him, and we also reported. We
00:28:54provided documents,
00:28:57documents of the results of
00:29:00the Constitutional Court hearing and also our legal opinion
00:29:04on the Constitutional Court hearing. In addition, we
00:29:07exchanged many ideas, because now the legal process,
00:29:10so to speak, is over. Now, what is rolling
00:29:13out is because in the Constitutional Court's deliberation,
00:29:17it says that Mas Vice President,
00:29:21Mas Gibran, was not found,
00:29:24not possessed, was not found
00:29:28to have an equivalent diploma.
00:29:31If it is said
00:29:34that he has an A-level diploma, which I call an advanced
00:29:38diploma, which was explained by our legal team
00:29:41at the Constitutional Court hearing, it was indeed
00:29:45not included in the
00:29:47deliberation of the Constitutional Court judges.
00:29:50So, from
00:29:54became the entry point for the
00:29:57petitioners to be able to
00:30:01bring it to
00:30:04Representatives, which is said to be
00:30:07because the glorification is that he does not have
00:30:10a high school diploma, even though he
00:30:13has an A-level diploma equivalent to
00:30:17that level to continue to a higher
00:30:20program, namely a Bachelor's degree at Bradford
00:30:23University. So, what was Pak Jokowi's comment on this,
00:30:26Bang Andi? Yes, if Pak
00:30:29Jokowi, we just follow it as it
00:30:32is, right? He is obedient to the law,
00:30:36right? If he is called, he will definitely come. If Mas
00:30:39is called, he will definitely come for that.
00:30:43This means it's not something crucial
00:30:46for the president, because all the documents are
00:30:49complete. Those documents, I'm sure, will be opened
00:30:53by Mas Gibran.