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00:00:02Regardless of the causes, an important goal for governments and
00:00:06central banks is to reduce the amplitude of these swings
00:00:09and limit the risk that the economy gets stuck in a
00:00:13situation with high unemployment, or loses control over
00:00:17inflation. The idea that
00:00:21excessive economic fluctuations can occur if
00:00:25markets are left alone, goes back to
00:00:28John Maynard Keynes, a century
00:00:30ago. Keynes' remedy was
00:00:34government intervention. By stimulating the economy in
00:00:37recessions and slowing it down in booms, the hope is
00:00:41to keep unemployment from reaching high levels during
00:00:44recessions and to maintain low inflation during
00:00:48booms.
00:00:50For a long time, the recipes of Keynes
00:00:54seemed to work, but they
00:00:56then failed during the oil crisis in the 1970s. This is when
00:01:00high unemployment and high
00:01:02all the pieces together in inflation took over
00:01:04simultaneously. Many then
00:01:08concluded that Keynesian stabilization policy did
00:01:12more harm than good and that policy makers should stay away and simply
00:01:16allow business cycles to play out on their own.
00:01:20Others argued that Keynes' insights were still
00:01:23relevant, but that the framework had to be
00:01:26completely rebuilt on a more solid theoretical foundation.
00:01:32In separate contributions, Robert E. Hall and Michael
00:01:35Woodford helped build this new foundation for stabilization
00:01:39policy. To understand how
00:01:43stabilization policy affects the economy as a whole, one
00:01:46needs to start with describing how
00:01:50individual households decide on
00:01:52consumption and how individual firms make
00:01:56pricing decisions. This is what we call micro-foundation.
00:02:00Upon which the new Keynesian framework is built and this
00:02:04framework is used by policy makers all around the
00:02:07world.
00:02:09The professor is now going to tell us more about the laureate's contributions.
00:02:22This shows you the US unemployment rate and how it
00:02:25fluctuates over the business cycle. During a
00:02:28recession, unemployment shoots up
00:02:30dramatically. Unemployment tends to hit the
00:02:34most disadvantaged individuals in our society
00:02:38the hardest. Can we do something about
00:02:40this? This is exactly the
00:02:44goal of stabilization policy. Governments
00:02:47intervene on markets to make them work better. How
00:02:51do markets work?
00:02:54Typically when either supply or demand
00:02:57changes, prices adjust.
00:03:01"The invisible hand does its
00:03:03magic.
00:03:06However,
00:03:08without SNSD, but will during the Great Depression in the 1930s, economists
00:03:12realized that this doesn't always work so
00:03:14well. Prices and wages didn't
00:03:17adjust as much as they should have, and the economy
00:03:21got stuck in a very high unemployment
00:03:24situation.
00:03:27Probably..."
00:03:30The most influential economist John Maynard
00:03:33Keynes then stepped in and forcefully argued
00:03:37that governments have a role to play and should
00:03:41help.
00:03:43Central banks should lower interest rates,
00:03:46governments should lower taxes and increase
00:03:49transfers to bring demand back
00:03:52up. This is the visible hand by the policy
00:03:55maker.
00:03:59The economy... also ended up in the opposite
00:04:02situation where demand exceeded supply. In this
00:04:06case, monetary and fiscal tightening is needed,
00:04:09otherwise there is a risk of
00:04:12inflation getting out of
00:04:14control. This is the Keynesian
00:04:17recipe and it worked well
00:04:21until it didn't. And this is the
00:04:24painful experience of the 1970s, in
00:04:27which case shocks hit the...
00:04:30economy. Policymakers tried to boost demand,
00:04:34but the economy ended up in the worst of both worlds,
00:04:37with high unemployment and high and even accelerating
00:04:41inflation. The Keynesian recipe
00:04:44was shattered.
00:04:47Stabilization policy came under pressure and many thought it should
00:04:51be abandoned
00:04:52completely.
00:04:56This year's prize is about constructing
00:05:00a framework to analyze
00:05:03business cycles and stabilization
00:05:06policy. The issue with the preexisting
00:05:09framework was that it was too much of a... black
00:05:12box. It relied on relationships between
00:05:16aggregate variables that were assumed, for instance,
00:05:19between inflation rate and the unemployment rate,
00:05:23and policymakers thought they could exploit those relationships.
00:05:27However, in the 1970s, those relationships broke
00:05:30down.
00:05:33The solution by Robert Hall and Michael
00:05:36Woodford was to build a new framework
00:05:40from the ground up.
00:05:42"They explicitly studied and modeled the individual
00:05:46decisions of firms and households. They gave the
00:05:50framework a so-called micro-foundation, and
00:05:53by doing so resulted in a
00:05:57framework that gave more robust policy
00:06:00advice. Robert Hall worked on the
00:06:04demand side, studying consumption, whereas
00:06:07Michael Woodford studied the supply side, the price-setting behavior
00:06:11of firms, and..." put
00:06:15a whole.
00:06:18Consumption is key because it's the biggest component of aggregate
00:06:22demand. The preexisting framework
00:06:25simply assumed a mechanical
00:06:28relationship between aggregate disposable income
00:06:31and aggregate consumption
00:06:34demand. Robert Hall instead
00:06:37asked, "How do individuals actually make consumption
00:06:40decisions?"
00:06:47Yes, current disposable income matters,
00:06:50but also expectations about the entire
00:06:53future path of income is
00:06:57relevant too. So, forward-lookingness in this decision
00:07:00is key. If consumers see dark clouds
00:07:04on the horizon, they cut back on consumption already
00:07:07today.
00:07:09Theories that modeled this existed at
00:07:13the time, but they faced a seemingly insurmountable
00:07:17empirical challenge, because expectations are
00:07:19unobserved.
00:07:23In a path-breaking paper in 1978,
00:07:26Robert Hall showed the way forward. The key idea
00:07:30was that if consumption summarizes all the information up until
00:07:34today, consumption changes from one period
00:07:37to the next if and only if new information
00:07:41arrives. However, new information is by definition
00:07:44unpredictable. This means that the theory suggests that
00:07:48changes in consumption must be
00:07:51unpredictable. This is precisely the
00:07:54property that Robert Hall tested in aggregate
00:07:57data and found support for the
00:07:59theory. This was a huge
00:08:03surprise, and it changed the
00:08:06entire theoretical and empirical literature on consumption
00:08:10completely. We now have a way,
00:08:24We will return soon to current topics and guests, friends of
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00:10:56of the show Domod and
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00:11:07The elections in Republika Srpska were again decided by Belgrade, and
00:11:10the opposition was broken by direct dictates from Serbia,
00:11:14says Nebojša Vukanović, our guest today. Where is
00:11:18the limit of political survival and what is the future of those who
00:11:21refuse to play by the rules of the regime, how is...
00:11:25the opposition systematically bought and broken for citizens' money, we ask
00:11:29the leader of the List for Justice and Order. Good
00:11:31day.
00:11:34Good day, greetings from Trebinje, greetings to all your viewers and thank you for
00:11:37the invitation. Mr. Vukanović, the meeting of Dodik
00:11:40and Vučić on Saturday, they say they are hatching plans,
00:11:44what plans this
00:11:47time?
00:11:50Well, Dodik and Vučić, after the fall
00:11:53of Orban, they somehow remained a duo,
00:11:56who keep each other in power and one cannot
00:12:00easily survive without the other, and that is why it should not be surprising that
00:12:03both Vučić and Dodik, and Dodik and Vučić, despite some
00:12:07mutual rivalry, perhaps even intensified
00:12:11intolerance towards each other, support each other because they are aware that one cannot
00:12:14survive without the other, and it is known that Vučić
00:12:18unfortunately put under control through his games and through
00:12:21the state security service and through
00:12:24his..." companies, primarily through Mtel, which is
00:12:28key for financing, that he brought a good part
00:12:31of the opposition under control, that the People's Front was founded in Belgrade,
00:12:35that the PSS was founded in Belgrade and that this group in
00:12:39the SDS that overthrew Milan Miličević after he
00:12:42published a photo from student protests, as well as attacked
00:12:45Ljubiša Petrović, now trying to expel him from the party
00:12:48also, because he supports the student movement, that all
00:12:52clearly tells you what the cause of the problem is, because Vučić controls
00:12:56a good part of the opposition and directs it in such a way
00:12:59that it always plays for Milorad Dodik, that is the key
00:13:02to the defeat in 2018 and 2022, in which I was
00:13:05out of the public eye in a fierce
00:13:09conflict with the people who then led the SDS and PDP. I said that
00:13:13we cannot listen to Vučić and his instructions for
00:13:16some small amount of money that individuals receive and for some small
00:13:19media space in Belgrade newspapers and media, and in return
00:13:23we make suicidal moves. because of which we will lose, and
00:13:27because of that, in 2016, I realized that I cannot
00:13:30be an accomplice to that kind
00:13:33of betrayal of opposition voters and Republika Srpska,
00:13:37and because of that, I decided to run, even though I knew
00:13:40that I was against everyone and didn't have much chance, but
00:13:44I had to at least tell the truth to the people as things stand,
00:13:48and you saw that last night Milorad Dodik gave an interview in which he confirmed,
00:13:52today I called out Branko Blanuša and Draško
00:13:55Ivuković, whom he said he had talked to before the elections, and
00:13:59we realized at the end
00:14:02of the campaign secretly with Branko Blanuša and Draško Stanivuković that they
00:14:06had reached an agreement to enter power together at the level of Bosnia and
00:14:09Herzegovina, that he respects that part
00:14:13of the agreement, and you cannot defeat Dodik if you fight him
00:14:16with people who secretly conspire with him. That is all done
00:14:20at the dictate of Belgrade. Branko Blanuša is a former progressive. I entered into
00:14:24conflicts when I haven't been talking for months
00:14:27with the former president of the SDS, acting Jovica Radlović,
00:14:31and with Nešković, precisely because of the appointment of Branko Vlanuša
00:14:34as president of the SDS and giving the candidacy. I said that someone
00:14:38cannot lead the opposition who until yesterday was in the polygraph
00:14:41of Igor Radojičić's satellite party of Milorad Dodik and who was a progressive
00:14:45of Aleksandar Vučić, that that person will not have any control, that it is a big mistake,
00:14:49and unfortunately time has shown that I was
00:14:52right, and it is sad that after the elections, not even 10 days
00:14:56passed until everything I said was true, that is, that the majority
00:14:59of the opposition is in agreement, in games with Milorad Dodik,
00:15:03that is why Milorad Dodik survives, that he gives them
00:15:05crumbs, and as long as
00:15:09we do not have people who are clean, who have no cooperation
00:15:13or connection with Milorad Dodik and Vučić, only then can we win. That is why
00:15:16we strongly support the student movement in Serbia, because if Vučić
00:15:20were defeated in Belgrade on October 25, that would
00:15:23be a severe blow to Milorad Dodik's system, which he thinks
00:15:26is relaxed now, but believe me, he
00:15:30is very fragile and it takes very little for it all to collapse, just one
00:15:34month of delayed salaries or for the system to break down or for... him to lose
00:15:38the levers of power and the support he has from Belgrade. And I sincerely hope that
00:15:41the students will resist temptations and great pressures and win
00:15:45on October 25, because that would fundamentally change the balance
00:15:48of political power in Republika Srpska. Yes, we will talk more
00:15:52about that, but let's return to these current topics.
00:15:56I listened to that interview in which it
00:15:59seemed to me that Dodik offers the opposition
00:16:03in Republika Srpska, now they are in the government, both in
00:16:07Republika Srpska and in the Council of Ministers. Do you think they will
00:16:10accept joining the government with
00:16:14Dodik?
00:16:16Well, he offers everyone but us. He said only Vukanović, neither does he want to, nor can
00:16:20we be with him. So he understands that we do not want power or positions
00:16:23at any cost, if we wanted power, influence, positions,
00:16:27money, we would probably have known how to compromise. I think
00:16:30that this silence of Branko Blanuša and Draško Stanivuković confirms that
00:16:34what Dodik said is true and now they are bargaining.
00:16:37If they don't want to themselves, Dodik has his people in
00:16:40both organizations. If Draško enters alone, the entire PSS
00:16:44will be in power, then this cuckolding group will enter, four or five deputies,
00:16:47and they will split the PSS in half. It's similar with the SDS, in which he has
00:16:51people he cooperates with, these are Darko Babalj and Marinko
00:16:55Božović, that team,
00:16:57to whom he enables to stay in power in Eastern Lika, to rule there
00:17:01with his consent. Božović thanked him by sinking the candidates
00:17:05of the opposition every election, and they lost. He gave him DNSA, Nešić to be
00:17:09coalition partners. Simply put, what he
00:17:12did was stay in power thanks to the undermining,
00:17:16drilling of the opposition. Sometimes it was the late Mićo Mićić, the SDS in Bijeljina was
00:17:19saved by Ljubiša Petrović. Now those people who saved the SDS, instead of building him
00:17:23a monument, they are kicking him out of the party. And just now it's over
00:17:26his Čavić, who was his oppositionist,
00:17:30and Dragan Čavić and Mićo Mićić and Nenad Stevandić and Darko
00:17:34Bannac and Borislav Bojić and Milan Tubin.
00:17:38and Babić and Ognjan Tadić and Dragan Kalinić, so three
00:17:41presidents of the SDS are now in the arms of Milorad Dodik, his closest associates
00:17:45and advisors, and his entire coalition,
00:17:48so-called coalition, these trailers are people, look, Banjevic was in
00:17:52the SDS, Stevandić was in the SDS, not to mention Čavić was in the SDS,
00:17:56so he survives by trapping someone from the SDS every election,
00:17:59giving them some positions, a little money and power, and they
00:18:03betray opposition voters. This has been happening for 20 years, it's...
00:18:07all happening, unfortunately, with enormous support and
00:18:11winds blowing from Belgrade, because that state
00:18:14security service has largely played a role
00:18:17in creating many political parties and processes,
00:18:21and they simply have many people who are on call, they go for advice
00:18:24to Belgrade, many, many, you would be surprised how many tens of people there are
00:18:28and how many get instructions there, that
00:18:32service protects them, they really do work for them.
00:18:36Those of us who are not part of
00:18:39that perverse system are exposed to attacks, lynching, and
00:18:43demonization from all sides, and believe me, it is absolutely not easy
00:18:46to fight against such a system, and it was not by chance that my
00:18:50car was burned and my house was attacked, and I was not demonized by the media.
00:18:53I will tell you, in Republika Srpska during the election campaign, I did not get a single
00:18:56second of airtime on any of these major televisions, and that is certainly not by chance.
00:19:00What is the limit of that political survival, what do you predict will
00:19:03happen with the List for Justice and Order in the coming years?"
00:19:08"Well, you know what, I am proud of the team of people I have
00:19:12gathered around me, first and foremost a group of honorable people for whom no one can
00:19:16find any stain,
00:19:18professors, doctors, university professors, lawyers,
00:19:22advocates, economists, workers, so a decent group
00:19:25of people. It is not easy today in such a system to gather
00:19:29a company of people to survive, but for 14 years now,
00:19:3215 years we have been actively fighting against the regime, and we have never been part of any
00:19:36government, nor do we have a single..." person employed anywhere in any
00:19:39public sector, nor do we have any mark of whose donations. It is not easy
00:19:43to survive, but you must understand, I saw a well-intentioned
00:19:46column by Mr. Dakić who says you need to be a little more diplomatic, well,
00:19:50this is not about diplomatic skills, that is well-intentioned, but it is
00:19:54that you are a people's tribune for every problem
00:19:58of the citizens, and how did you understand his
00:20:01column, will you listen to some well-intentioned advice,
00:20:05extremely, extremely correct
00:20:08and extremely well-intentioned, but you must
00:20:11understand, if I were to lose the integrity that the List for Justice and Order has, that
00:20:15after the elections we have not a single mark of unpaid
00:20:18debt, not a single invoice, we have not a single person who can point
00:20:21a finger at us for the most immoral act, the only thing we have
00:20:25is purity. If we were to get
00:20:29dirty, we would lose everything and disappear from the political scene. I said simply when
00:20:32it matures, when people want something different, honest
00:20:36people, when they want justice, order in society, that this... You were angry after
00:20:40the elections, you said that citizens can forget
00:20:43your phone
00:20:45number. Does that mean that
00:20:48some... I will give you some
00:20:51examples. I was in the village of Podnovlje near Doboj dozens of times with
00:20:55those locals, filming, talking, fighting against that land
00:20:59up on the church hill where an illegal solar plant is being built, contrary to
00:21:02court rulings, and the SNSD won there. On Bukova Kosa
00:21:06where I also called out Zvonko Veselinović's illegal mine and Jekoci,
00:21:09we got two votes. So simply, I have been used to it my whole
00:21:13life, whoever calls me, I run without ever asking for anything in return,
00:21:16I always ran to correct some wrongs. People's personal
00:21:20and collective problems, and nothing was difficult, but you simply must
00:21:24have self-respect. Those people you fight for must
00:21:28understand that it is not fair to call me at noon, at midnight,
00:21:32me and my people, then when elections come, to run for those who
00:21:35created problems. In Nevesinje, also, the day after the elections, panic
00:21:39about some problem in the school, so they put my deputies in a Viber group to
00:21:43resolve it, to create it. So we serve as some
00:21:46rams to break down the fortress with our heads, to create problems for ourselves.
00:21:50"Because of that, my house was burned because of such things, and my house was attacked. Because of that,
00:21:54I lost 140 thousand marks in lawsuits,
00:21:57writing about injustices, and simply, those people we fight for
00:22:00must understand that they must have
00:22:04respect for us, that we are not here to be taken for granted, and simply, I
00:22:08will now have to turn over a new leaf, because I have never been arrogant or
00:22:12proud, I have always been the same, no matter how time passed, and
00:22:15I hung out with the same people and had the same lifestyle, but the people you
00:22:19fight for, these are some..." when there were workers here of Novotex, the tool industry,
00:22:22Agroko, Neimarstvo, I always said what would happen if they
00:22:26supported the system, those women workers of Novotex Vesela went bankrupt.
00:22:29Dodik used and spent them countless times, and
00:22:33most of those people, unfortunately, are the voting body of the regime. Simply, people must
00:22:37get burned badly to understand that a
00:22:40change of government and system is necessary if we want to create a more
00:22:43just and better society. So that
00:22:47despite those well-intentioned criticisms, we are very...
00:22:50If we lose the purity we have and
00:22:52sincerity, simply there will be at least 10% of people or five who will
00:22:56appreciate that you are clean, that you do not want to be part of corruption and that you will not
00:23:00betray the people. Perhaps the time will come when that will
00:23:04suddenly grow to 30 or 50%, but I do not
00:23:07want to, although I hope people understand me, I do not want to make rotten
00:23:10compromises, to betray fundamental life principles,
00:23:14to betray, I don't know, my comrades,
00:23:17anyone else for a crumb of some power. Power really doesn't... interest me. I am interested in creating
00:23:21a little justice, order in society, even if we don't get a chance, many great figures from our
00:23:25past, from Jovan Skerlić, Dučić was exiled,
00:23:28Branislav Nušić ended up in prison just like me for writing, so you know
00:23:32how Petar Kočić, who was also a tribune, ended up in a mental hospital at
00:23:3630-something years old because they destroyed him, even the people he fought for
00:23:39destroyed him. I always remember how
00:23:43great revolutionaries like Che Guevara ended up, the people he
00:23:47fought for betrayed him, they said his... scares our goats and
00:23:51sheep, so they sold him for a handful of silver, like Jesus for
00:23:54a handful of silver. I simply came to terms with it, I'm not
00:23:58surprised, we just have to tell the truth, the problem is not only in
00:24:01the corrupt government, but in people who for some small
00:24:05personal interest support such a corrupt system until some problem or tragedy
00:24:08happens to them and then they realize how much they
00:24:11erred. Next, we will discuss citizens' money, precisely that
00:24:15system. Dodik has been paying for lobbying in America for years,
00:24:19a scandal last week with Trump's advisors. How
00:24:22do you explain the fact that
00:24:26it passed at all
00:24:29both by the Prosecutor's Office of Bosnia and Herzegovina and
00:24:33by American judicial
00:24:36institutions? How much could it cost him
00:24:39and the citizens?
00:24:41He uses the
00:24:44motto of Louis XIV, "L'état,
00:24:47c'est moi," the state is me. So, all the budget
00:24:50he has, he sees as his personal money, in addition to the 80
00:24:54million he arbitrarily uses as he wishes through the president's
00:24:58cabinet. He is still president, even though he is not in that position. He is still
00:25:01prime minister. He is a minister in every department. He simply
00:25:05because he has captured institutions and because many people who are
00:25:08well paid are actually cowards, judges,
00:25:11prosecutors, auditors, legal representatives, none of
00:25:15them has the strength to oppose him. oppose, it must be said in
00:25:18Sarajevo as well and it gave people who swear by Bosnia and Herzegovina, many
00:25:22Bosniaks, they were not able to implement the judgment, they showed the powerlessness
00:25:25of institutions, they allowed the man who leads SIPA to
00:25:29leave that position and then return without any punishment, they didn't have the courage to
00:25:33implement the judgment, he continues even though there is a ban on activities, his party
00:25:37bears his name, he led the campaign, so he didn't care much about
00:25:40the judgment, it should be viewed that when he shows such force that no
00:25:44institution can do anything to him, that he is stronger than the police and
00:25:47the judiciary and the prosecutor's office and SIPA, and that both
00:25:50Russia and America work for him, and that he can buy everything with money, then don't be surprised
00:25:54that ordinary people are afraid of him and that they follow
00:25:58him and that is a syndrome of slaughtered sheep that I was talking about
00:26:01that mm... "let the wolf break into the sheepfold, let him kill
00:26:05some sheep, only wound some and slaughter
00:26:08those sheep that he slaughtered, they constantly follow him to finish them off," and that's how the path
00:26:12of a good portion of citizens of Republika Srpska, Bosnia and Herzegovina, could be explained
00:26:15by the slaughtered sheep syndrome, because obviously many people are afraid
00:26:19of those who show such power that no one can do anything to them,
00:26:23there should be consequences, of course, the international community that
00:26:26gives billions of marks in loans and support to Milorad Dodik
00:26:30who was..." when it was necessary to bring him to power, I am against any
00:26:34interventionism, but when Dodik was brought to power in '98 and
00:26:372006, they were ready to cut off 50 heads of his
00:26:40political opponents, mostly from SDS, to open doors for him,
00:26:44however, everything is tolerated for him, he before every election makes a round
00:26:48from Budapest, now he no longer goes to Moscow, to Washington, and
00:26:52gets international support, which is crucial for his
00:26:55victory in the elections, with enormous corruption and money that he throws from the budget
00:26:58to citizens before the elections. Now he has changed the route a little, he went
00:27:02to Tel Aviv, then a little to
00:27:06Russia, Željka Cvijanović with the first
00:27:08advisor in the White
00:27:12House, in Banja Luka today we are talking, of course, about
00:27:14current events, Dodik and Čović, we have been used to that
00:27:18for years, without a single delay they implement
00:27:22common political, financial interests,
00:27:25is it even possible and how to break their
00:27:29interest axis on the ground? Well, it's sad to see that
00:27:34the authorities in Banja Luka, who swear they are great
00:27:37Serbs and patriots, roll out the red carpet
00:27:40for Dragan Čović and his delegation who support the monument to Ustaše
00:27:44from the Second World War in the vicinity of Mostar, and on the other hand,
00:27:48they welcome Serbian professors and students from Belgrade and Novi Sad
00:27:51with batons, beatings and bans.
00:27:55That speaks of their hypocrisy. As for the
00:27:59Dodik-Čović axis, I have long told everyone
00:28:02that if the two of them are the axis of evil that grinds everything, it was quite
00:28:06normal for people who care that Bosnia and Herzegovina functions normally on fundamental
00:28:10principles to accept my proposal that, first of all, Bosniak
00:28:14parties, for higher interests, bury the hatchet and
00:28:17say that, first of all, this country is a hostage to the blockades of Dodik and
00:28:21Čović in the House of Peoples and they have captured institutions, that axis
00:28:25of evil that grinds everything must be ground down, and then
00:28:27we will, on some other principled
00:28:31principles, see that... institutions function normally and we will all unite
00:28:34against them so as not to be their hostages, however,
00:28:38just as there are people in the opposition of Republika Srpska who admire the power of Dodik and
00:28:42Čović, they look to them for a little power, so too many among
00:28:44Bosniaks, uh, look for ways to get into that fast game,
00:28:48get a little power and then they are ground down, whoever entered into a pact with them in
00:28:52'18, '22, paid a high price and we will see if anyone has the courage
00:28:56to form the Council of Ministers after these elections in
00:28:592026. I said, when Bosniaks understand.
00:29:11SDA agree to that, HDZ, maybe even
00:29:14SDP, which uh, according to some predictions, will
00:29:18be part of that state government.
00:29:21And SDP had that chance in 2022, and SDP
00:29:24bears the greatest responsibility currently, why is that
00:29:27axis so powerful, because when I went to SDP with a delegation from SDS and
00:29:31PDP and told Nikšić that it was dangerous to give a fourth
00:29:35delegate to Dodik, that he should support not nominating Vojin Mijatović as
00:29:38a delegate, but supporting the candidates of SDS and PDP and forming a Council
00:29:42of Ministers because there were enough votes in the presidency Bećirević and
00:29:45Komšić without SNSD, that would have clipped the wings
00:29:49of SNSD and he would not have been able to spread his wings and the political situation
00:29:53would have been completely different, however Nikšić listened to Vojin
00:29:56Mijatović and Bosnia and Herzegovina was captured for four years, now that
00:30:00opportunity is gone, I am quite skeptical that
00:30:03Bosniaks will have enough, so to speak,
00:30:06courage and wisdom, and what I would say, what
00:30:10I, as someone who is so attacked and branded in Sarajevo, remember
00:30:14I said that I support the Serbian national team, for me it was perceived as
00:30:17such an avalanche of attacks as if I had done
00:30:20something terrible, so for me it's a problem when I support Serbia, I have supported and been a Serb all my life and
00:30:24it's not a problem for the Red Star, who curses and extinguishes everything,
00:30:28many media and politicians in the federation used that and other
00:30:32meaningless things to start a campaign against me
00:30:36in order to keep Dodik in power, simply those people who do such things
00:30:39should also bear the consequences
00:30:43and Bosniaks should also understand that
00:30:46power is also very important to them, but they must understand that whoever
00:30:49enters into a dance with Dodik and Čović at this moment will be
00:30:53crushed, I also said four years ago that Dodik and Čović would crush
00:30:57Bećirović and SDP when they entered and everything turned out to be true.