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00:00:00Welcome to N1 Croatia,
00:00:03good morning Hanan, let's start with
00:00:06the US and Iran and these renewed new
00:00:09negotiations, uh, new blockades, questions
00:00:13what will happen with the Strait of Hormuz,
00:00:17Donald Trump announced that the Iranians had been negotiating
00:00:20all day with the Iranians, but again, obviously
00:00:23in his own style, he said and threatened, there will be, there will be
00:00:27retaliation, there will be strong attacks on Iran
00:00:30if an agreement is not
00:00:32reached, what is the current situation
00:00:36when it comes to negotiations, could Iran
00:00:39get the right to oversee ships entering
00:00:43the Persian Gulf?
00:00:47What we currently know is that the Iranians are negotiating
00:00:50with Oman and are not negotiating with
00:00:53the Americans, because as the American president says, if there isn't something,
00:00:57there will be something. This practically means
00:01:01that uh
00:01:04he imagines those negotiations are taking place, because as we know, in the past few
00:01:08weeks, there haven't been any significant contacts
00:01:11between the two delegations
00:01:13directly, Qatar, a few days ago, Majid al-Ansari and
00:01:17their foreign ministry spokesperson announced that they had joined
00:01:21all of this, which practically means that
00:01:24someone more serious had to be involved in the negotiations
00:01:28as a mediator to try to... reach a solution, because Pakistan didn't
00:01:32succeed, mm, everything else
00:01:34didn't succeed for the simple reason that, well, what you just
00:01:38said, he constantly threatens,
00:01:41constantly makes some new demands, some
00:01:45new threats, constantly changes his mind,
00:01:48nobody is sure anymore whether something that is agreed
00:01:51today will still be in force
00:01:54this afternoon, so what the American president is doing
00:01:57is quite alarming, because I will remind
00:02:01our viewers that at the beginning of the war,
00:02:04that is, at the end of February, he said that it would last
00:02:08four to six weeks, here we are in
00:02:11the sixth month of this war and there's no end in sight,
00:02:14the only thing we got in the last few hours as
00:02:18some concrete information is that
00:02:22Iran and Oman discussed those routes and how
00:02:25this passage through Hormuz will be made, but
00:02:29there are still many problems within it because
00:02:32uh some people are asking what if
00:02:36these, I don't know, transit tariffs or customs or
00:02:39some kind of road tax, as I would call it, are introduced,
00:02:43that will create additional costs for people who
00:02:46do business with the Gulf region and that will of course
00:02:50have an effect on the global community, so
00:02:54this problem with the American administration has been going on for
00:02:57too long and I think
00:03:01military that "if he really wants to reach an agreement, he should form a serious
00:03:04negotiating team that would then go and talk to
00:03:08partners in the Gulf region and beyond to
00:03:11finally find a solution to all
00:03:14of this. Now, here you mentioned Trump's
00:03:17original announcement that the war would last four to
00:03:21seven weeks, it's clear, we are where
00:03:24we are, what has been asked for some
00:03:28time, and increasingly today, mm, is
00:03:32the question of how much this war
00:03:34is exhausting primarily the United States, not
00:03:38so much Iran,
00:03:40uh, how much longer this war could last and also
00:03:44the question of how much it will harm
00:03:47the economy of the United States, or whether there are
00:03:51sufficient supplies of ammunition, they may not
00:03:54even need to exist, but how much money will then go into their
00:03:57creation and for us to... acquire something like that so that
00:04:01the war can continue?
00:04:04You are completely right, according to the latest information published
00:04:07by colleagues from CNN and other American media,
00:04:11their supplies are currently reduced
00:04:14by approximately 80%, especially
00:04:17when it comes to missile interceptors,
00:04:20what were the Iranians practically doing here? The Iranians were firing those
00:04:24missiles to force the Americans to defend themselves,
00:04:27i.e., to defend their allies in the Gulf
00:04:30region. The second thing that is very difficult
00:04:35the African continent for the American president at this moment, mm, is
00:04:37that none of those attacks led
00:04:41to what he was talking about, that they were wiped off the face
00:04:44of the earth, that they were destroyed, that they couldn't defend themselves, that they couldn't attack, and so on
00:04:48and so forth, they still have
00:04:51considerable supplies, certain things, as we learned from
00:04:54intelligence data, reports from our colleagues at the global
00:04:58level, have already, mm... replenished their supplies, produced
00:05:02them in their own production, I have already said, I think in our
00:05:05Zagreb program and our Sarajevo program countless times that
00:05:09for example, the Shahed 136 drones, which
00:05:12Russia uses in Ukraine, are
00:05:15simply transferred across the border from Russia
00:05:18from the factories they own, mm,
00:05:21the license to produce them is given
00:05:24to the Iranians, the Iranians then normally use them.
00:05:28We saw in the Gulf region that the Iranians mostly used
00:05:31drones for attacks, meaning they did not use
00:05:34conventional weapons, you are also absolutely
00:05:38right when you say that the American economy will be threatened,
00:05:42yes. It will be threatened, and it will be severely threatened, and huge
00:05:45financial resources will have to be invested, especially
00:05:49from the Pentagon's budget, I will remind you that
00:05:53currently in Congress a new military budget is being discussed
00:05:57that should amount to more than 1.8
00:06:00trillion US dollars or more than
00:06:031,800 billion US dollars that
00:06:06the Pentagon is currently asking
00:06:09Congress to approve. Of course, then the question will
00:06:13be asked among Americans, especially among voters who
00:06:16will vote in November this year in the congressional elections,
00:06:20well, why are we spending so much money when Trump
00:06:23promised us that we would no longer wage endless
00:06:26wars, that we would not participate in what is happening in
00:06:30the Middle East, so this whole situation
00:06:33simply causes enormous damage and one of
00:06:36the elements that are indirectly connected,
00:06:39or rather directly, with what
00:06:42is happening in the Middle East is the price of oil at American
00:06:46gas stations, not on the global market, but at American gas stations
00:06:50where Americans now say, well, we didn't vote for this, we voted for the
00:06:54barrel to be under 2 dollars, now the barrel
00:06:57is mm 4.5, actually the gallon
00:07:00should be under 2 dollars, now it is
00:07:04$4.55 cents on average, so
00:07:07Americans are feeling this whole...
00:07:10um um
00:07:14gambling adventure that Trump embarked on, which he
00:07:17claimed would end very quickly, just as he said that the war in
00:07:20Ukraine would end in 24 hours, well, this war has not
00:07:23ended as quickly as he said it would end
00:07:27other wars. Yes, the question arises of how
00:07:31he will be, let's say, punished
00:07:34in the US itself,
00:07:37we have now had
00:07:41the first round of elections for Congress in the past two days,
00:07:44these primaries have been held, and we have already
00:07:48seen some unexpected victories and successes
00:07:51of some Democratic candidates, and if
00:07:54we now include this whole story in which we are talking
00:07:58about the American attack and
00:08:00aggression against Iran, which went together with Israel, there is also
00:08:04an interesting question of AIPAC, that is, this American
00:08:07Israeli association that invested
00:08:11millions, 60 million in one
00:08:14case, sponsoring going against the candidates
00:08:17who now seem to have succeeded
00:08:21in winning the elections, what does that
00:08:24tell us about some divisions in
00:08:27American society, or is it perhaps the punishment
00:08:31of these American policies?
00:08:33Yes, what you're talking about, when it comes to Democrats, there's a very interesting Michigan, that's where AIPAC
00:08:36invested huge financial resources, a total of
00:08:3960 million was spent in the fight against Abdel El
00:08:42Said, 30 million, 30 million was invested
00:08:45by AIPAC itself, that's very interesting, these are only
00:08:49primaries, so it's purely within the Democrats to
00:08:53choose who their candidate will be, these are not even the main elections that
00:08:56are coming in November, a huge amount of money was spent,
00:09:00that's precisely the fight that is being waged with, how should I
00:09:04say... with the Democrats over
00:09:07their internal, so to speak, organization, because these progressive
00:09:11candidates like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are now
00:09:15increasingly coming to the scene and
00:09:18if voters go for them, we see that Abdul
00:09:22Elsaid won in Michigan against someone who was
00:09:24an establishment candidate, then that means that there will be
00:09:28punishment for both of them, both because of Gaza and because
00:09:31of what is happening now with...
00:09:35onda to znači da će biti kažnjavanja i jednih i
00:09:39drugih i zbog gaze i zbog ovoga sada što se dešava sa...
00:09:50yes, questions are starting to be asked, that two years
00:09:54of his mandate will practically pass in that the Democrats
00:09:58in 2047 will have the opportunity to
00:10:02constantly investigate everything he did and all the moves he
00:10:05made, and that will create huge problems for him and
00:10:09his administration if by chance, the victory
00:10:13of Alsaid in these primaries suggests that there is a possibility that
00:10:16he will become the first Muslim senator in
00:10:19the United States in the history of the United States, then that could
00:10:22mean that he will lose both houses of the American Congress, and only then will he be
00:10:26in trouble, because then he will be what Americans
00:10:30call a Lame Duck President, meaning a president who
00:10:33cannot do absolutely anything, because the Democrats will not allow him to
00:10:37even pass a uh letter
00:10:40of congratulations, to put it colloquially, if he wants to send
00:10:44a letter of congratulations to someone and needs congressional approval, the
00:10:47Democrats will not uh approve it, they will simply
00:10:51block him in everything, and everything he promised to
00:10:55American voters who supported him will
00:10:58fall in Congress,
00:11:01I must also say that people who
00:11:04voted for him in the last elections simply
00:11:07say, we are deeply disappointed and we made
00:11:11a huge mistake by voting for him at this
00:11:14moment, that is, in the elections when he won the presidential
00:11:17elections, so now he is part of that whole, let's
00:11:20say, MAGA scene, those who
00:11:24largely supported Trump's
00:11:28rhetoric and policy, for example, Tucker Carlson, our
00:11:31colleague, is now completely changing his tune,
00:11:34so a lot is happening, do you think
00:11:38that this war against Iran and actually this Israeli
00:11:41dragging of Washington into this whole story
00:11:45with all these repercussions that you
00:11:48pointed out, is that perhaps that one
00:11:51moment that will?
00:11:55that can really punish him, because people are now, so you
00:11:59mentioned people who voted, we also have people here who financed his
00:12:03campaign who are no longer all so enthusiastic about what
00:12:07Trump's administration is doing, uh, on the other
00:12:10hand, it can be seen that the results of this
00:12:13action can actually harm the US
00:12:16the most, yes, you are completely
00:12:19right, although when it comes to Tucker Carlson, a certain
00:12:23group of people who come from that MAGA sector, I wouldn't always
00:12:27take uh
00:12:30what Americans call face value at face value,
00:12:34I wouldn't take everything they say with complete sincerity
00:12:38and I wouldn't trust them completely, but it shows certain
00:12:41trends that they have started to wash their hands of him and repent
00:12:45for everything they did, but something that is very interesting, Maggie Haberman
00:12:48who recently wrote with Jonathan Swan a book called
00:12:51"Regime Change." regime change, which
00:12:55describes the first year of Trump's mandate and what
00:12:58happened at the beginning
00:13:00of this war with
00:13:04Iran, says that the moment Benjamin Netanyahu came to the White
00:13:07House in the situation room and when he
00:13:11presented the idea of how to
00:13:14go into this war, uh Maggie
00:13:18says the head of the CIA, the head of the State Department,
00:13:21uh numerous other advisors, including
00:13:26segments from the Pentagon simply said no, this idea
00:13:29you are presenting, this idea he is presenting,
00:13:33this will not work, this will not go well, however
00:13:37Trump for some reason decided to go with Benjamin Netanyahu's idea
00:13:41and went into all this that he went into and now we have the whole
00:13:45situation that we have, what can
00:13:48happen, tell
00:13:51me, finish, finish, I had a comment, never mind, just finish... what
00:13:55can happen, you said? What
00:13:57can happen is that
00:14:00even those who were
00:14:03confident within the Republican Party, candidates
00:14:07he supported, but also candidates he did not
00:14:09support, will lose the elections precisely because of what
00:14:13Carlson and others are saying, who have now started to wash
00:14:17their hands of him, and then the situation will be much, much harder for Republicans
00:14:20than they expect at this moment, even in those
00:14:24federal states... that were not red
00:14:27but ultra-red to now turn purple
00:14:31or blue, meaning to fall into the hands of Democrats.
00:14:34Esmire, now while we were talking
00:14:37there were shots from Gaza.
00:14:41Um, the example is, or rather, the ceasefire has been in effect since October
00:14:44of last year, however, Israel
00:14:47has broken that ceasefire and
00:14:51agreements dozens and hundreds of times,
00:14:54in recent days we have also witnessed new attacks,
00:14:58new civilian casualties, renewed shelling of tent
00:15:02settlements, refugee
00:15:04camps - a war that has been going on for three and a
00:15:08half years now, what I'm interested in
00:15:11uh, pardon me, not three and a half
00:15:14years, I was, I was wrong, two and a half
00:15:18years, m, what I'm interested in,
00:15:21uh, can this agreement with Iran? And
00:15:25since the war with Iran is certainly part of this broader story that
00:15:28it falls into, which in a way also started with the war against
00:15:32Gaza and all the conflicts in the Middle East that resulted from
00:15:36it, especially if we take into account that Iran, Hamas,
00:15:39Hezbollah, and also the Houthis in Yemen are part of that axis
00:15:43of resistance, do you think that, whatever the
00:15:46outcome of this war against Iran, there will somehow
00:15:50be room to regulate the situation
00:15:53in Gaza, and then in Lebanon, let's not
00:15:56forget that part either.
00:16:00Ah, Lebanon is another
00:16:02thing, Lebanon will be a little harder to resolve when it comes to
00:16:06Gaza, Gaza. is at this moment a victim
00:16:09of uh internal politics in Israel and
00:16:12the struggle for dominance
00:16:15between Netanyahu and his right-wing coalition and the opposition,
00:16:19the elections are on October 27th.
00:16:22Um, in those elections Benjamin Netanyahu
00:16:25is seeking to politically survive, on
00:16:28the other hand, we are waiting to see what the
00:16:31opposition will do, because for example Gadi Eizenkot, a former general,
00:16:35former chief of staff who leads the opposition,
00:16:38or rather the strongest bloc in the opposition, it seems to me
00:16:41is sending some messages that he might be ready to discuss
00:16:44a certain solution, however we heard uh Bennet,
00:16:48Naftali Bennet, the former prime minister or co-prime minister, whatever
00:16:51you call him, who uh said a few days ago, there's no
00:16:55chance of us having a two-state solution, meaning that
00:16:58a Palestinian state would be established in the Middle East, so here
00:17:01we have a situation now in which
00:17:04simply that Gaza will remain to be...
00:17:07resolved for a long time, and what I have already said and will repeat
00:17:11again, two people, Vitkov and Kushner, um
00:17:15cannot resolve three, four, five
00:17:18mm crises that we currently have and they cannot negotiate all of that
00:17:22and know what is happening and resolve all of it, Richard Holbrooke wouldn't
00:17:26have succeeded, let alone those two who do not come from diplomacy at all, if
00:17:29we could clone the late Holbrooke now and
00:17:33make five copies, that would be enough to solve everything
00:17:37in these few crises or
00:17:40uh to bring up another of the old diplomats who could
00:17:44solve it, however when it comes to Gaza, it seems
00:17:48to me that they don't have an idea how to do it, because now we see that even that
00:17:51stabilization force has not been formed, some alleged
00:17:54pilot project is starting that should be the basis for something
00:17:58that could be done, this whole story about
00:18:01disarming Hamas is completely uh
00:18:05interesting, because they say, for example, we won't disarm, but
00:18:08we'll, I don't know, leave the weapons somewhere on the side, that practically
00:18:12means, we'll put them in a container and if we happen to need
00:18:16them, we'll take them, we also heard that Muhammad Dahlan, who is
00:18:19the former head of security in Gaza until 2011,
00:18:23has joined the whole story, he left
00:18:27uh those areas and lives in Dubai, he has
00:18:30close contacts with Sheikh Al-Nahyan and
00:18:33Aleksandar Vučić, who said that Hamas will transform
00:18:37into a political organization, that's exactly like
00:18:40Hezbollah, where you have a political party that has
00:18:44an armed wing, precisely because of that I say that Lebanon will be difficult
00:18:47to resolve, but Hamas is already a political organization and
00:18:50in power, well yes, but now it would
00:18:54become even stronger or perhaps more structured than it was, because
00:18:58until now it was more that they were uh
00:19:01a militant organization with a political wing, and now they would
00:19:04be a political organization with a military
00:19:08wing, something like the IRA in Northern
00:19:11Ireland or Hezbollah in Lebanon, and precisely because of that
00:19:14I say Lebanon will be harder to resolve because the Lebanese state is not
00:19:18strong enough, the army is not strong enough to deal with
00:19:22Hezbollah, and because of the internal political
00:19:25structure, Hezbollah is important to them in a political sense, so
00:19:29there are many elements that intertwine
00:19:32with each other, so there will be many things that
00:19:36will be difficult to resolve, and Trump here absolutely does not
00:19:39use those classic negotiating uh
00:19:42principles and models that were once used, but tries
00:19:46to solve such complex things with threats, social
00:19:50media posts and so on, which ultimately
00:19:53ends up like this, as it ended with Ukraine, with Gaza, with
00:19:56everything else, for for the end, Esmire,
00:20:00in the past few days last week
00:20:03Ceuta, this whole situation
00:20:06Morocco, Spain, so this Spanish
00:20:09territory on
00:20:12to which tens of thousands of migrants from
00:20:16Morocco landed, they were mostly
00:20:19returned, it seems to me that there are still
00:20:23100 minors, people,
00:20:25how many 2,500 people with some
00:20:29800 minors, there you go, I have
00:20:321, all right, those are the numbers, however, what interests me
00:20:36more is this geopolitical
00:20:40aspect of this whole story, in the past few days there have been
00:20:43opinions and comments, and even analyses,
00:20:47that this is something that could
00:20:50have been orchestrated, that this is something that could, could
00:20:53have been part of some strategy
00:20:57of destabilizing Spain, raising
00:21:00some issues in the European
00:21:03Union itself, some blame Israel and
00:21:07the United States for this, let's remember that Donald
00:21:10Trump himself threatened Spain -
00:21:14partly because of Spain's refusal to allow their
00:21:16territory and US bases there to be used for attacks on Iran. "And
00:21:20on the other hand, we also know that Spain is perhaps
00:21:23the loudest European and one of the main countries
00:21:26in the world that opposes Israeli policy and
00:21:30wars primarily against
00:21:31Gaza?
00:21:34Is there a possibility that this was a hybrid action of some hybrid
00:21:37operation, yes, there could have been Iranians, Israelis
00:21:41and Americans and anyone
00:21:44else currently involved in the geopolitical scene, however, what is interesting to me in the European..."
00:21:47zanimljivo evropskoj..."
00:21:50political space, the first ones who came
00:21:53out to criticize Sanchez and Sanchez's
00:21:56policies were people who expect
00:22:00elections next year, Giorgia Meloni in Italy,
00:22:03AfD in Germany, Le Pen
00:22:06and Bardella in France, practically
00:22:09they want to use this story to raise
00:22:12tensions, to scare people, to
00:22:15say, look, we still have a migrant influx, only we
00:22:19can... protect you from
00:22:21this migrant influx, for example, Giorgia Meloni said
00:22:25that Schengen should be suspended, Spain should be
00:22:28banned this or that, no one
00:22:31reminded that Giorgia Meloni had the idea
00:22:35to move migrants from Italy
00:22:37to Albania, to give them to Edi Rama,
00:22:41so that Edi Rama deals with them until they get a court
00:22:45decision on what to do with those emigrants, on the other hand
00:22:49we have... uh, this stirring up against
00:22:52Sanchez, because of course, they hope
00:22:55that now either PP Feijóo will come to
00:22:58power or some combination of Feijóo and
00:23:02Vox will come to power, so then the far right will be in power in Spain, which
00:23:05would suit them better at this
00:23:08uh moment, because the claim that came from
00:23:12both Giorgia Meloni and others that
00:23:15they attacked the European
00:23:19continent was completely absurd. "None of these
00:23:22migrants crossed into Spain, they all remained in Africa,
00:23:26and as you yourself said, they were all returned to Morocco, so this was more of a political,
00:23:30let's say, game instead of concern for those people
00:23:33and for Europeans living within the European
00:23:36Union, this will probably be used in the coming period, did
00:23:40Trump try to do something against
00:23:43Sanchez, I wouldn't be surprised if he really did, because
00:23:46we saw in Ankara that he was spewing fire
00:23:50against Sanchez and before that at the NATO summit
00:23:54and before that, so possibilities
00:23:57for everything exist, although I think this was
00:24:01a bit of a combination
00:24:03of that Sanchez's law on legalizing
00:24:06migrants and some uh
00:24:10campaign that was waged on social media for people
00:24:14to try to cross there, traffickers tried
00:24:17to sell this as a good
00:24:20idea, however, that program was long
00:24:24over, so there's nothing left of that, and many realized,
00:24:27okay, we were deceived and well, let's go back, what can
00:24:30we do now, Sanchez of course has his own problems
00:24:33within the party and society and everything else, but he also
00:24:37has elections coming up, so we'll see how
00:28:37And the press this morning, I'm going through it with my colleague Jasmin Klarić from
00:28:41the telegram.hr portal. We will now look at some of
00:28:45the headlines in our media today, and then we will comment
00:29:00paper, the new paper. the headline is
00:29:04veterans do not want to be associated with former regimes, but
00:29:07with the truth. That was said in Knin by Croatian veteran Robert
00:29:11Puja demands that the role of veterans be valued
00:29:14exclusively through the truth of the Homeland War and that they
00:29:18should never be identified with any
00:29:21past regime. on the front page of the new
00:29:25paper also tourist season, here they say
00:29:28that the season in Kvarner is at least saved by domestic
00:29:31Central European guests and that July is still in the black,
00:29:35i.e. that 3% more tourists arrived than
00:29:39last year, if we go further, Večernji
00:29:42list, here on the front page is definitely
00:29:45the celebration of Operation Storm and
00:29:48the news that even temperatures above 40 did not prevent
00:29:51people from coming to the celebration in Knin, here is also
00:29:55the news that citizens owe 11 billion
00:29:58euros in the most riskiest consumer
00:30:01loans. "We can also comment on that a little,
00:30:05here are the topics that Kiev was left without defense and since
00:30:08Trump hesitates with air defense,
00:30:12i.e. the Patriot system, here is the topic that
00:30:16we followed today, when rivers dry up, i.e. that the Krško
00:30:20nuclear power plant started reducing the power of the reactor due to
00:30:23fear related to the Sava river, let's move
00:30:27on to the Jutarnji list, we already dealt with this topic
00:30:30today, that is the promise of Andrej Plenković
00:30:33that there will be higher pensions for
00:30:37200,000 veterans, we don't know
00:30:40what exactly kind of package it is, here they say in
00:30:44Jutarnji list that the government in June rejected a similar model that was
00:30:47proposed, we can, we had Damir Bakić from Možemo today
00:30:51and we just discussed this topic, and here is also this
00:30:54interesting fact the consequence
00:30:56of the drought that actually the Danube in recent days.