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00:09:15N1 studio live. Will
00:09:18the session of the National Security Committee, which was announced last
00:09:22week, be held and when? It seems that this week
00:09:38it will not. The chairman of the committee, Ranko Ostović, told Nova TV
00:09:41that only if it is concluded that SOA leaders should be invited,
00:09:44then it will be at one of the next sessions. But what will certainly
00:09:48be held tomorrow in Parliament is a debate on confidence
00:09:51in the prime minister. We will follow that live tomorrow, of course. In the meantime,
00:09:54a new Cro Demoscop has arrived. The Cro Demoscop survey, conducted
00:09:58by the agency Promocija plus, shows that HDZ's support has fallen
00:10:01to 25%, which is its weakest result in Prime Minister
00:10:05Andrej's third term.
00:10:09The SDP is at just under 20%, which is also its
00:10:12lowest rating in the same period. Možemo
00:10:15continues to grow for the third month in a row, and is now at almost
00:10:1914%. Bridge is showing a slight increase, approaching
00:10:2310% support. So we will analyze
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00:11:01There are dead, some teenagers
00:11:05were killed. This is just part of the topics. Stay with
00:11:08us. Let's go to our reporter
00:11:12Katarina Plantak for more information about the impeachment
00:11:16and about the SOA and about Cro Demoskop, after all,
00:11:19Katarina, it was announced that the
00:11:22session of the National Security Committee would be held this
00:11:30week, it was declared a victory for the opposition, primarily
00:11:34Sandra Benčić, but as things stand, nothing this week.
00:11:38We also found out that only the committee members
00:11:42have to vote on whether they will invite the SOA
00:11:45to come, even though why not, given that there are
00:11:49some unresolved issues, that's one thing,
00:11:53on the other hand, the opposition,
00:11:57SDP and Možemo, are preparing for tomorrow's
00:12:00parliament session on the impeachment of the prime minister,
00:12:04this is the fourth attempt to impeach Andrej
00:12:07Plenković in all these terms. Yes, Nina, that's right, we were waiting
00:12:09for that session of the National Security Committee, it was
00:12:13announced that it would be held this week, especially after
00:12:16Ranko Ostojić stated at the session two weeks ago
00:12:20that SOA
00:12:22had information about illegal
00:12:25waste disposal in Gospić back in 2022,
00:12:29and that it had forwarded the information to the competent
00:12:32institutions. Of course, the question arose as to which competent
00:12:36institutions, and whether it had sent that information to
00:12:39the President of the Republic, the President of the Parliament, and also to the government.
00:12:42All of them stated that they had not received that
00:12:46information. Similarly, the information that they had not received any
00:12:49information from SOA was stated by Dirh and
00:12:52Dorh, and also by the Ministry of Interior. The investigation
00:12:56into what information SOA had and to whom it had actually
00:12:59forwarded it then lasted. After all, last week, at the end
00:13:03of last week, Sandra Benčić, and the opposition said that they had won,
00:13:07that is, that a new session of the National Security
00:13:11Committee would be convened, at which representatives of SOA
00:13:14would also be present, because we know that two weeks ago there
00:13:18were no SOA representatives, only a report.
00:13:21We expected that session this week, but Ranko
00:13:25Ostojić stated yesterday for Nova TV's daily news
00:13:28that it would not be held this week due to a busy schedule.
00:13:32I spoke to some members of the committee, and they confirmed
00:13:35that to me. They said that the committee session would be held, but not
00:13:39this week. As for SOA, they told me that they still have
00:13:42no information that SOA will not be at that
00:13:45meeting. However, according to what Ranko Ostojić said, it seems
00:13:47that at that meeting, or rather, the committee session,
00:13:51there will first be a vote on whether there is a need
00:13:55for SOA members to attend that meeting, and only then
00:13:58at the next session could SOA members
00:14:02appear before the parliamentary committee to discuss what actually happened
00:14:06in Gospić in 2022, what information they had, and to whom
00:14:09they forwarded it. But what is certainly happening in the Croatian
00:14:13Parliament tomorrow is the state of the nation. The Prime Minister
00:14:16will also be in Parliament and will present
00:14:20to the parliamentary representatives
00:14:23the state of the country, that is, what the government has done.
00:14:27But after that, there will be a debate on the attempt to impeach the government
00:14:30at the proposal of the SDP. 54
00:14:34representatives signed the impeachment proposal.
00:14:38All representatives from the left were joined
00:14:42by representatives of Most. Representatives of the Drito party did not
00:14:45join the signing, nor did representatives
00:14:49of the Domina and Croatian Sovereignists parties. Igor Peternel
00:14:53said that he does not want to build anything with the Left,
00:14:57but that he will support the impeachment in the vote.
00:15:00As I said, this is the fourth attempt to impeach
00:15:03Andrej Plenković's government since he came
00:15:06to power in 2016. The first attempt to impeach
00:15:09him happened in 2017.
00:15:13It was also initiated by the SDP due to
00:15:16the Agrokor case. After that, a full six years passed until a new attempt
00:15:20to impeach him. It is an interesting fact that the impeachment
00:15:24in 2023 came from
00:15:28the current HDZ coalition partners,
00:15:31the Homeland Movement. Then again in 2024,
00:15:34in December, by the HDZ. The third
00:15:37attempt to impeach Andrej Plenković's government,
00:15:41due to the arrest
00:15:44of Beroš and the gas for cent affair.
00:15:47All these impeachments were unsuccessful, the ruling majority
00:15:51had the necessary votes. It seems that it will be the same tomorrow. The ruling majority
00:15:55currently has 79 votes, so Andrej Plenković,
00:15:58and his government, are currently safe. However,
00:16:01as for the ratings, the HDZ's rating has been falling
00:16:05in the last two years, but in all
00:16:07three terms of Andrej Plenković, it now has the lowest
00:16:11rating, which is 25%.
00:16:14In addition to the HDZ, the SDP is also falling, they have fallen below 20%,
00:16:18their current rating is 19.5%,
00:16:21while Možemo and Most are growing. Možemo has reached
00:16:2514%, Most is at almost
00:16:2810%, so smaller parties
00:16:32are growing while the HDZ and SDP
00:16:35are losing ratings. As for the state of the country,
00:16:3917% of respondents believe that the country is going
00:16:42in the right direction, only 17%
00:16:46of respondents believe that the country is going in the right
00:16:49direction. All this is happening,
00:16:52we saw last week an extension of the investigation
00:16:56into the case in Gospić, the investigation also extended to the company
00:16:59Cezar of Petar Pripuz.
00:17:02This company was selected in a public
00:17:05tender for
00:17:07the remediation of the scattered waste in Gospić around
00:17:11the PPK Velebit area. What USKOK is currently
00:17:15investigating them for is that they collaborated with the
00:17:18Xinsek couple, selling
00:17:21ground plastic to them and actually
00:17:24in a way participating in bringing that illegal
00:17:27waste to Benkovac, to the
00:17:31area of the Zlatara Paška Dodić quarry.
00:17:33By the way, regarding
00:17:36that scattered waste and the Cezar company that was supposed
00:17:40to remediate that scattered waste, it was expected that
00:17:44the government would make a decision and sign
00:17:47a contract so that the remediation could begin. However, that contract has not yet been signed,
00:17:51so it is now unknown what will happen with the remediation of the
00:17:55scattered hazardous waste in Gospić, a total of
00:17:584,500 tons, given that the contract has not
00:18:01yet been signed. This week, the government, the Environmental
00:18:04Protection Fund, and the Ministry of Environmental Protection were
00:18:08supposed to meet with representatives of the initiative
00:18:12to present further steps for remediation.
00:18:14Of course, the remediation of the buried waste is also awaited.
00:18:18Covering is underway, but it is only a temporary
00:18:22measure, it needs to be completely remediated. We see
00:18:25now that it is not even known what will happen with this
00:18:28scattered waste, given that the government has still
00:18:31not signed the decision for the Cezar
00:18:35group to remediate that scattered waste. Will they go
00:18:38for a new solution, how much will that further
00:18:42prolong the remediation, it is not known. The minister
00:18:46said last week that it is in their interest
00:18:50that the remediation proceeds according to plan, she expects
00:18:53everything to be according to plan, but she did not say that
00:18:56the contract with the company that is now a suspect in
00:19:00the investigation will not be signed, there is still that
00:19:03possibility that Cezar will remediate that
00:19:06scattered waste. All these are of course questions
00:19:09that we need to get answers to, but it will certainly
00:19:13be asked in Parliament tomorrow. In addition to that,
00:19:15today is also the presidency of the HDZ, so I believe
00:19:18that Prime Minister Andrej Plenković will also
00:19:22stand before the microphone after the presidency and give
00:19:25us some answers to these questions.
00:19:29Katarina, thank you, that was our Katarina
00:19:32Plantak. Let's now go to the studio to analyze
00:19:35everything that is happening
00:19:37in Croatia or in the Croatian political sphere. Tomislav Klauški
00:19:41has joined me for an analysis. Tomislav, good morning, good
00:19:44morning and welcome. Cro Demoscop, these are some new
00:19:48data for us, HDZ 25, SDP
00:19:51also low, just under 20, Možemo
00:19:54and Most are growing. That reminded me, Nikola Grmoja was here the other
00:19:57day on the new day and he said:
00:19:59The real fight will be
00:20:03between Most and Možemo, those are two parties that will grow, according
00:20:13to Cro Demoscop, so far it's not far from the truth.
00:20:17Well, no? Several things can be seen from that survey:
00:20:20first, it is important for the HDZ to enter the next elections
00:20:24as a relative winner, that is, to come out of the elections
00:20:27as a relative winner and thus win the right to be the first
00:20:31to gather a majority, and when the HDZ is the first to gather
00:20:35a majority, that means that many
00:20:38are willing to enter that alliance, from some
00:20:42liberal left to the far right.
00:20:45Secondly, it is important for the SDP and Možemo,
00:20:48in the combined total, which is not representative,
00:20:51it is a national sample, it needs to be done by
00:20:55electoral units, all these variables,
00:20:59all these variables, it is important for them to have
00:21:02more together, more than the HDZ. And as
00:21:06for Most and Možemo, they should be seen as
00:21:10two satellites, that is, larger
00:21:13partners. So, Most, however much it has anti-HDZ
00:21:17rhetoric, has recently switched to anti-Plenković
00:21:20rhetoric, which means that it has positioned
00:21:24itself somehow to be the HDZ's first partner
00:21:27in forming the government. So we can expect, although
00:21:31they persistently deny it, every time I ask it openly,
00:21:34it won't go well, and if it enters
00:21:38as a future HDZ partner, it means that everyone
00:21:41goes to the elections on an anti-HDZ platform, because that is the platform
00:21:45on which votes are won, and then it is counted.
00:21:49But you know, I asked Nikola Grmoja about that then,
00:21:52and I reminded him of the Homeland Movement, of those posters,
00:21:55Vukovar, criminal charges. Today I remembered, in 2023,
00:21:59who initiated the impeachment of Andrej Plenković?
00:22:02Do you know who? The Homeland Movement.
00:22:06It wasn't that long ago, and then he said
00:22:10that, but it can't be compared to Most, those are
00:22:13all former HDZ members, they all came from the HDZ,
00:22:17we are not them. So that topic was, Most
00:22:20has always, Most has, since 2015,
00:22:23appeared on the political scene as a kind
00:22:27of collective consciousness or a beacon of political
00:22:30morality or a corrector of others' shortcomings.
00:22:33They entered as "we will fix the HDZ, we will be
00:22:36a kind of fuse, or a corrector for the HDZ,"
00:22:40and today they probably still think the same. So they
00:22:43will fix the HDZ, or rather, they will first make sure
00:22:47that Karamarko is not too
00:22:50self-centered, that the HDZ is not too much under Karamarko's
00:22:53control. After that, they tried with Plenković, and Plenković,
00:22:56with his secretary, quickly solved that, as we all know,
00:23:00because the HDZ doesn't like to be corrected. But the mathematics
00:23:03and the whole calculation before the elections are going towards
00:23:07Most being, therefore, a competitor to DP
00:23:10as the HDZ's first partner. As for Možemo,
00:23:13they are already practically cemented partners
00:23:17of the SDP. So all these surveys should
00:23:20be viewed in that calculation. It is certainly important for the HDZ
00:23:24that it, as an individual party, be a relative winner, because
00:23:28as such, for now, it is, it will get surplus mandates,
00:23:32but it has the lowest rating this
00:23:35season. But on the other hand, the HDZ always revolves
00:23:38around its 25%, even in the darkest
00:23:41times, it had it. Not after Franjo
00:23:45Tuđman, after Ivo Sanader, they did not fall below 30%.
00:23:49So they, in the elections, they always get
00:23:52the maximum, that is,
00:23:56that can be called a sect, a cult,
00:23:59that is, party loyalty, everyone is tied to the HDZ,
00:24:03by interest, emotionally, and at that level,
00:24:08they are counting on. So they go to the elections from zero, they go
00:24:12to the elections from 25. Well, others don't go from
00:24:15zero either, but their springboard, whatever the HDZ
00:24:19does, is very high. Well, what do you think, these 20%
00:24:21might cause some nervousness within the HDZ,
00:24:25because it is true that for their standard, that is not a very high
00:24:29rating. Well, that is the question
00:24:33of how much, so things have changed in the last 10
00:24:36years. Plenković held that stumbling HDZ for some time,
00:24:39he was the one who pulled the HDZ with his charisma,
00:24:43new approach, persuasiveness. He pulled the HDZ, which was burdened
00:24:47by Karamarko and by the verdict and by Sanader's
00:24:50legacy and so on. But now things have changed a bit.
00:24:54The HDZ, however much it is also marked by everything that is
00:24:57happening, feels that Plenković is the one who
00:25:01is becoming a burden from a savior. He is the one towards
00:25:04whom dissatisfaction and frustrations are channeled,
00:25:07so with Gospić and other topics, that their leader
00:25:11is becoming a kind of burden, that, for example, Most says
00:25:14"we will not work with the HDZ if Plenković..." before that he talks
00:25:18about the Homeland Movement, so Plenković has used up his cards
00:25:21towards other coalition partners, disappointed them,
00:25:25and he has become the face of everything bad that is happening
00:25:29in the country. And the HDZ, as a party that always first
00:25:33looked at its own survival and preservation, always threw
00:25:36overboard those who were a burden to it. So,
00:25:39the question is whether that desire for self-preservation of the HDZ
00:25:42will decide Plenković's fate tomorrow, just as they erased
00:25:46all previous presidents? There is one more interesting thing,
00:25:50matches from that country, honey, milk, GDP and
00:25:53success that is being attempted to be portrayed
00:25:57almost, the percentage is even smaller than the percentage of people who vote
00:26:01for HDZ, or who still support HDZ, meaning HDZ 25% approximately,
00:26:04and 17% of respondents say they support the direction
00:26:08in which the HDZ government and HDZ are leading the country, which means
00:26:12that a good portion of HDZ members are perhaps angry at Andrej
00:26:15Plenković and the government, because we had already learned
00:26:19from the time of Ivo Sanader that when a more liberal
00:26:23president of HDZ comes, he takes the government cabinet
00:26:26as his own and leaves HDZ to HDZ members, and then you
00:26:29have that dichotomy of governance. "where
00:26:33therefore the prime minister governs from Banski Dvori, HDZ is, therefore,
00:26:36on the ground votes, or governs through
00:26:40local sheriffs doing what HDZ does, right? Uh,
00:26:43so now we have uh this situation, however,
00:26:47among these, that's how many, 83%
00:26:51who do not support the direction this country is going,
00:26:54that doesn't mean they are all liberal left-wing dissatisfied
00:26:58with HDZ, meaning with the government's behavior,
00:27:01these can be, therefore... the right, they think Plenković is
00:27:04too much, so it depends, of course, on
00:27:07the European Union, on Brussels, that there are too many human rights, that we are learning
00:27:11the wrong history, that Ustaše should come to power, so that's those 83, it's
00:27:15not the electoral base of SDP and Možemo, so
00:27:18here is the Homeland Movement, Ustaše, so Ustaše, blackshirts,
00:27:20it's all here, right? So it's likely
00:27:24that among those 83% they would want that, therefore, Plenković should come, but that
00:27:28some other prime minister who would be more to their liking should come, mhm.
00:27:34this whole story, who, Zoran Milanović, do
00:27:37we remember this this, we know we remember
00:27:41him,
00:27:43uh, well, no, I'll gently bring you into this story now about soy and about everything and about
00:27:47waste, Zoran Milanović who uh convened that
00:27:51session at one point of the parliament
00:27:54regarding illegal waste and after that he disappeared into
00:27:57the wilderness of Berbinograd
00:28:01in those were those were those wildernesses, jokes aside, this
00:28:04is a collegial comment, so
00:28:08let's make it a bit more relaxed, but indeed Zoran Milanović,
00:28:11where is he? Well, Zoran Milanović, we knew that would happen
00:28:14when he, therefore, from a turbulent first term
00:28:18in which he fought for a second term, entered a second term in which he behaves like Stjepan Mesić in
00:28:22his second term, where he let, therefore
00:28:25Mesić let the country to Ivo, this
00:28:28Ivo Sanader, Zoran Milanović is now letting the country to Andrej, what do
00:28:32you think. Andrej Plenković, but he perhaps even did what he should have
00:28:35done in the first term, let the real
00:28:38political opposition of Andrej Plenković, SDP, Možemo,
00:28:41let them be the ones who will lead the war against Andrej Plenković, but now the question is
00:28:45why did all those people vote for him for what they got or perhaps for something
00:28:49else, I mean, they voted for the HDZ government to have
00:28:53some counterpoint, or counterbalance, this
00:28:56willfulness, there is still that belief that Zoran
00:28:59Milanović will curb HDZ, however, Zoran Milanović
00:29:03did not curb HDZ, and Zoran Milanović did not save Croatia from HDZ, because wherever
00:29:06you look there are some fingerprints of HDZ and
00:29:10its affairs, bad governance, institutional
00:29:13atrophy and so on, right? Uh, so Zoran Milanović behaves
00:29:17as he behaves because he has nothing more to fight for, he no longer wants to
00:29:21go to prime ministerial elections, nor to fight for that
00:29:24presidential mandate, and he actually behaves like
00:29:28Stjepan Mesić behaved in his second mandate, who completely withdrew
00:29:31into himself and... he no longer had contact with Ivo
00:29:35Sanader, except that they together caught some cash, mm,
00:29:38so that Milanović
00:29:41is, for example, interesting that Zoran
00:29:45Milanović for some time bothered that
00:29:48SDP, so it was not thought so,
00:29:52and he was a kind of nuisance because all eyes of SDP voters
00:29:55and the opposition were fixed on Patočak, not on
00:29:59Iblorov Square, or on Možemo, and that was the wrong
00:30:03view, because instead of everyone voting for SDP, Možemo,
00:30:06in this desire to remove this SDP, everyone
00:30:10voted, uh, God, HDZ, everyone voted for Zoran Milanović
00:30:13to be the guardian over HDZ, right? So
00:30:16they went indirectly towards controlling HDZ, or
00:30:20removing it, so Zoran Milanović, on the one
00:30:23hand, it's good that he doesn't interfere, on the other hand, it's bad that he doesn't
00:30:27interfere, because who will interfere if not, and when
00:30:30if not now? This Gospić, this collapse
00:30:33of institutions, this horror that is happening, erupts from
00:30:37every, every pore, so strikes
00:30:40and those institutions, secret services, what
00:30:43were they doing? These are topics about which Zoran Milanović can
00:30:47speak, these are actually some of these topics are his topics, and Zoran Milanović only talks
00:30:51about how the European Union is undemocratic and how the European Union is bad,
00:30:55so he repeats a mantra that apparently has some
00:30:58deeper.