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00:05:57And further, Sandrijom Kuzmanović, about
00:06:00growing up, then and now, young people
00:06:03and old souls, culture and
00:06:06what's left of it, students and sin,
00:06:09politics and life, have we...
00:06:12"despite everything, learned to recognize the moment when
00:06:16we stop moving forward and start
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00:06:34when you find yourself in a situation where that Yugo
00:06:37Florida made a story that is
00:06:40everyone's, here..." That's that story, then it ends
00:06:44like that, then it comes to me, then it comes to me personally, then
00:06:47it comes to, to to to
00:06:51a meeting with life that is real,
00:06:54because it is in a way a true story, not just because it's
00:06:57a true story for many people, that's right, not just the man who
00:07:01made that film, but we are now talking about all of us, we all went
00:07:05through a situation where
00:07:09our dignity was taken away, and in life and in
00:07:12dying, I will say, I cannot say in death, but in dying,
00:07:16yes, now you know when when you meet that
00:07:20character and when you carry with you
00:07:23that that double
00:07:27uh double misfortune, first
00:07:29your own, because you are somewhere in
00:07:33some, some environment that you
00:07:36accepted, clearly, accepted, you don't have to accept it, I mean, I'm talking now
00:07:40about the character in that, I clearly know everything. So, how someone accepts, and
00:07:44must accept, to be there, that around him is some
00:07:48reality show, that then suddenly he starts to understand
00:07:51that as the only possible option, then not
00:07:54happiness, but personal misfortune
00:07:57awakens him and he becomes someone who has long
00:08:01forgotten himself, uh that is the man Zoran whom I
00:08:04play uh
00:08:07I don't know, they taught me at the academy everywhere that when I talk about
00:08:11a character I play, that... to speak in the first person, to say, I am
00:08:15this and that, but I have already played him, so I can freely make some
00:08:19kind of distance, uh Zoran, the character I play in
00:08:22Jugo Florida is really a man from
00:08:25this time we just talked about, you and I, and the time
00:08:29that is here like a perpetuum, constantly changing its
00:08:32form, but the essence is the same, I say
00:08:35the vicious circle, yes, the vicious circle, well, it's not without reason that the saying is as old
00:08:39as uh he is, he is a man... he agreed to
00:08:43spend the whole day
00:08:47with a minimum, a minimum, how much is a minimum, so that's, that's it
00:08:50that that that he spends the whole day with 200 dinars, I mean
00:08:54I'm just making it up now, sorry for throwing in some monetary definition, but
00:08:58today it's impossible to survive a day with 200 dinars, we know and everyone if you want
00:09:02to eat something or drink something, not
00:09:05to mention luxuries like cigarettes or some other things,
00:09:09uh,
00:09:12he... he agreed to all that, he agreed to
00:09:16to below the margin, then there's sometimes
00:09:19the next margin, then below that margin he holds on somewhere, let's
00:09:23say, that dregs, but dregs, I don't mean human,
00:09:27yes, that's right, human uh, he's used to it and he's
00:09:30agreed to it and he's uh, given
00:09:33up on life a little, regardless, he didn't get into,
00:09:36how should I say, he didn't get into some problems like
00:09:40alcohol, gambling, some things that also
00:09:43surround us today, drugs or I don't know what, he didn't get into
00:09:46that, but he simply gave up on himself, I mean, I want to say he had no
00:09:50helpers in all that
00:09:52to make it happen to him, then illness happened
00:09:56at home and he has to wake up, he has to be
00:09:59forced, moreover, moreover,
00:10:02this film, we made it again with Vlada Tagić,
00:10:05of course, uh, we made it very,
00:10:08very, very precisely, very dedicatedly. We made
00:10:12it as if we were making some film over there, and everything was very
00:10:16modest, and we lacked nothing, that's
00:10:19for example, something in which we can find
00:10:23ourselves as as... as in our work, that it's
00:10:26enough for us from what we talked about globally, here in our
00:10:30region, that is, we are all now somehow acquiring these habits that we
00:10:33acquired all of that, maybe we don't know any other way, so we can't,
00:10:37it would be unpleasant for us at this moment to tell someone, "Here, go work," that's
00:10:41how it was, really, I have to praise the production and everything, really, from all
00:10:45that they got and fought
00:10:48for, we were all very nicely snuggled, it was a phenomenal
00:10:51one, Nikola, this Nikola Peković said
00:10:55that it was probably one of the most beautiful sets he had been on, and
00:10:59we really all had that impression, but I think
00:11:03Yugo Florida, well, again, now that film wasn't really followed,
00:11:07I'm not complaining, I'm sorry, of course, as a protagonist that
00:11:10that film wasn't more followed, and I think
00:11:14that people could have gone to the cinema to see it, more of them.
00:11:18I think we had 35,000. Mhm, I'm not sure, pardon, but I think there were about
00:11:2235,000. Some other... things
00:11:25have, I mean, again, that also tells us, that's
00:11:29a mirror image for me, the mirror for me is the theater, and I think I'm involved
00:11:32in it, I don't know how much time I would have if I wasn't involved strictly in this, how much I would go to
00:11:36the theater, to the cinema, honestly I admit, to the cinema probably more,
00:11:40but uh, that's also a mirror of the society we
00:11:44are in and the region we live in. Mhm, yes, now
00:11:47well, and it's quite a difficult film, I have to say that I understand people who have been through
00:11:51that. I wanted to tell you that, you know, you talked about how we are all somewhere unhappy
00:11:55and in our own way reduced to no longer
00:11:58expecting, giving up because some are tired, some have
00:12:02inherited their destinies or the destinies of their
00:12:05parents or the destinies, I don't know,
00:12:08of our region, but
00:12:11essentially when you translate that to
00:12:14a whole, all that we today every day watch, that bad news we
00:12:20many televisions, should be or in some newspapers, right?
00:12:24I don't see that. "And that's what we live, and then when the
00:12:27moment comes for me to see myself
00:12:30having sunk and
00:12:33I see all possible
00:12:35scenes that I
00:12:39personally experienced, I'm talking now about many people who live in this
00:12:43country, you're almost fine, you know, then I
00:12:46tell myself, I can't do this anymore,
00:12:49I won't find good news, true news, truthful news,
00:12:52we gave up on that long ago..." You know, and look, now we have, look,
00:12:56we gave up on truth, we gave up on good news, we gave up
00:12:59on then what's in front of us, we give up on that, and
00:13:03you say why do we give up on that, because someone forced us to
00:13:06give up, because someone is constantly serving us something, because we
00:13:10don't know how to find the present, current moment, that moment
00:13:14of happiness, I must first say one thing that
00:13:18these people here, meaning primarily
00:13:21Serbia, God bless them.
00:13:25"How are they still normal given everything that's happening to them? I'm
00:13:28not just talking about the recent past, I'm talking about a
00:13:31past from which I date, meaning I'm 42
00:13:35years old, nothing here has
00:13:38ever been normal in terms of everyday
00:13:41life, people live very
00:13:44hard, and people are still or I look at people, I look at faces a lot, and when
00:13:48I drive a lot around the city and I look at people on the bus, I look at people
00:13:52at stations, I look at people uh..."
00:13:55Uh, there are some visible breakdowns in some
00:13:58people, but people still
00:14:01hold on, I don't know where they get the strength, and I don't know,
00:14:05because I have to look, I, as an artist,
00:14:08uh, I, as an artist, always have to look,
00:14:11that, that, that's what they taught us, and Bjelja and some older team, we always have to
00:14:15approach critically uh the regime,
00:14:19the society we are in, anything,
00:14:23anything that surrounds us, we have to... react critically so that society can be
00:14:27better, not so that I would profit from it, I have never
00:14:30profited from anything, and I always say, whoever attacks
00:14:34any of mine or anything, I say, "Okay, let's do a listing, to
00:14:38see what you've been through, my love, and where you've established yourself,
00:14:42and then you criticize someone else." I'm
00:14:45for it, I'm for seeing who got what and how.
00:14:49And now, we really are a heavenly people, because
00:14:53it's incredible how... people are still here, as you and I are talking, I see
00:14:57people outside walking, pushing children in strollers, not singing,
00:15:01laughing, waving, not at us, at each other,
00:15:05God bless them, how can I, I mean, because I can't look at it subjectively, to go
00:15:08back to that, because of the nature of the work that I
00:15:11do, we have a strong influence, we used to have at least a strong influence
00:15:15on the society we live in.
00:15:17People think when they see you on the street that, because I was at home through the
00:15:21television, and it's the same, and you know yourself, whoever
00:15:25sees you, they think they've been friends with you for a while, that's
00:15:28very charming, for those who know how to approach politely,
00:15:32memorable, but I can't look at it subjectively and I shouldn't look at it subjectively.
00:15:36where my generation, I can say again, was taught to look at some things
00:15:39subjectively, we went through it, yes, let's talk more, I,
00:15:43no matter how well I lived
00:15:48things happened to me, because I was
00:15:52simply born when I was born, simply a peak
00:15:55for me as a person, as a man, as
00:15:58an artist, is now and I must
00:16:01enjoy it now, but I still see that many people around me don't
00:16:05enjoy it. Then I must say that
00:16:08I don't enjoy it either, and I think
00:16:12it's like at a table in a pub, you know, I don't have to
00:16:16tell you how sometimes you have people
00:16:19who don't care, and then you have those
00:16:22who say, "Wait, I can't if someone is sad at
00:16:26the table in a pub, I will do everything to somehow or we all order
00:16:29a sad song, we all cry for him and we all find ourselves in
00:16:33it, so there's no third option," you know, that's that's it, we are
00:16:36me. I see that, I see that again in in in in traffic, in
00:16:40everything, everything is there, one nation is seen in
00:16:43everything,
00:16:45uh, I repeat again, I believe that we are one of the best nations in the world,
00:16:48the most talented, certainly,
00:16:51uh, but again we have been crumpled so many times and then we picked
00:16:55ourselves up, and so many times they throw us into some
00:16:58corner, so much so that people have become a little
00:17:02selfish, mhm, well the planet has also become a little selfish,
00:17:05yes, globally, I wanted to say globally. "We are now taught that everything
00:17:09is for yourself, don't you, boy, try to
00:17:13act smart
00:17:15and uh I agree that it's some global
00:17:19trend and global fashion, if I may say so, but we are not those
00:17:23characters, if we haven't enjoyed it like the whole world in some beautiful things, let's not
00:17:27be in these ugly ones either, let's step out again or at least
00:17:30stay where we are, so
00:17:34I think this nation is great for what it has
00:17:36been through." Well, okay, but do you now have the impression
00:17:40that it's not just that
00:17:44our bad choices, because you know what,
00:17:48we chose, brother, I mean, many times we chose, it's not like
00:17:51absolutely yes, absolutely yes, we can't say now, well, we didn't think
00:17:54so, we can, but we can't say we messed up 100 times, we can't
00:17:58say that, I can say I messed up, well
00:19:32the older you get, the less you lie, but does this
00:19:35lie bother you, this big lie?
00:19:37Social lie, when they lie to you, when they smear you, no, but how
00:19:41do you react, I know it bothers you, but how do you react, here I go back
00:19:44to it, we don't even react anymore, I can't, you see yourself in
00:19:47the mood, well, I mean, that's some laughter now, because it starts
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00:20:06no, I don't press
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00:20:28this, but yes, I want to say that I must, I must somewhere save myself,
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