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00:00:06stones, to show this,
00:00:30happened against and against Barq instigates riots in Sambhal their colleagues. So somewhere
00:00:34or the other, such things are being
00:00:37deliberately brought by the government to divert people's attention,
00:00:41which creates division among people. There is silence on the death of five people.
00:00:44It's amazing. Five people have died.
00:00:48They were directly shot. There will be
00:00:50no talk about their death. Who killed them?
00:00:54The investigation that has been conducted, the report submitted in the investigation
00:00:57is correct.
00:01:00When the Samajwadi Party government was in power, this is a party skilled
00:01:04in instigating riots. A thousand riots happened in 5 years.
00:01:071200 lives were lost. The leaders of the same party
00:01:11know that if they spoke in the context of offerings,
00:01:15immediate strict action would be taken. Here, action is not taken on the basis of religion.
00:01:18It is taken on the basis of deeds.
00:01:21The killer is also the witness.
00:01:23That's it.
00:01:26The BJP only has Hindu-Muslim
00:01:30society, Hindu Pakistan and nothing
00:01:32else.
00:01:38The guests joining me, let me introduce them.
00:01:42With us is BJP National Spokesperson Prem Shukla ji.
00:01:45Prem ji, after a long time, you have come to Sawaal India today.
00:01:49With me right now is Mohammad Faiz Khan,
00:01:52National Convenor of MRM. With us
00:01:56is Maulana Sajid Rashidi Sahab, President of All India Imam Association.
00:02:09First of all, Prem Shukla ji, I am starting with you because
00:02:13the question is directly being raised by the Samajwadi Party
00:02:16that you brought the Sambhal investigation
00:02:20report before the elections so that
00:02:25for Akhilesh Yadav, the atmosphere could be polarized, so that the opposition would not ask
00:02:27questions about donation theft. In this,
00:02:33and the Samajwadi Party,
00:02:37is it not necessary to reveal the truth about the Sambhal riots? Is it not?
00:02:41Is it not the government's responsibility to expose
00:02:45the people who hatched
00:02:48report orchestrated by the government a planned conspiracy in Sambhal and caused riots,
00:02:52pelted stones, fired bullets, and caused loss of life?
00:02:55Is it not the government's responsibility to take action
00:02:58against such people? The government
00:03:02is ready to discuss all other issues.
00:03:05We are ready to discuss every
00:03:08topic. But as soon
00:03:12as we expose the distorted faces
00:03:16in the riots, why does
00:03:19the Samajwadi Party and the I.N.D.I.A. Alliance
00:03:23start squealing? This is also a question,
00:03:27isn't it, that in this country,
00:03:30those who have a distorted history of continuously
00:03:34instigating riots, instead of accepting
00:03:37the responsibility of exposing
00:03:42and we stand with those families such people as responsible for the riot incident, instead of taking action
00:03:46against those who instigated the riot, the expectation is, isn't it,
00:03:50that the Samajwadi Party should take action
00:03:54but against Ziaur Rahman Barq who instigated the riots, against the MLA who instigated the riots?
00:03:58What place do rioters have in our party?
00:04:00Instead, they are trying to cover them up. This
00:04:03in itself is extremely unfortunate
00:04:07that you harbor rioters,
00:04:10activate rioters, carry out violent activities,
00:04:13and after that, if
00:04:17such violent jackals are exposed,
00:04:20you also squeal. This is amazing.
00:04:23You said that, I am going to Sunil ji.
00:04:27Sunil ji, you seem to have heard Prem ji.
00:04:31I don't need to repeat it. Do you
00:04:34think that a report of an inquiry committee came, it was presented, and it is right to link it
00:04:38to offering theft, that offering theft happened, so they brought
00:04:42this inquiry report to divert attention from those allegations?
00:04:45It is an inquiry report. If something has come out in it,
00:04:49is it not necessary to take it seriously?
00:04:50No.
00:04:54No, it is absolutely necessary to take it seriously, but I think
00:04:58the Uttar Pradesh government does not need to take it seriously.
00:05:01to throw stones, to incite stone pelting, This government has failed
00:05:05on all its promises. This government,
00:05:08I would like to request through your program
00:05:12to the people of JP that you were given
00:05:16two opportunities by the respected people of Uttar Pradesh.
00:05:19Which promise did you fulfill?
00:05:22Your entire 5 years
00:05:25went into Hindu-Muslim issues, snatching the reservations of backward Dalits,
00:05:29committing scams, looting donations.
00:05:32And I am saying
00:05:36one more thing. I was just listening to the BJP
00:05:39spokesperson. Look,
00:05:43we are not in favor of breaking
00:05:46the law or riots or any of these things.
00:05:50But you also have to understand
00:05:53how much the BJP likes riots and riots are instigated
00:05:57by those who benefit from riots. The Bharatiya Janata
00:06:00Party always benefits from Hindu, Muslim and
00:06:04riots. And they even made
00:06:07the Chief Minister in Uttar Pradesh, who was accused of riots.
00:06:10We are saying from the heart that
00:06:14you look at your leader in Uttar Pradesh and on the other hand
00:06:18look at our leader. You tell me
00:06:21who instigated the riots, who had criminal
00:06:24cases against them. There are no criminal cases against our leader.
00:06:28Whenever our leader is mentioned, the mention of 19
00:06:32lakh laptops comes up, the mention of metro comes up, the mention of expressway
00:06:36comes up, the mention of good buildings like JPNIC
00:06:40comes up, the mention of medical colleges comes up. You are talking about the report of the judicial inquiry.
00:07:05Is that acceptable to you or not? Look, there are two things. The government is conducting a judicial inquiry. And
00:07:09that same sharp government
00:07:13which has not been able to catch the donation thieves till now.
00:07:17Well, our leader has said one thing, let me say it through your program.
00:07:20Honorable Chief Minister Yogi ji is constantly saying
00:07:24that he will separate milk from water.
00:07:27Our leader said that give
00:07:30silver for silver, gold for gold, give cash
00:07:34for the cash you have looted. Sunil ji, I am asking
00:07:38you again, a report of the judicial commission came.
00:07:41Is that acceptable to you or not?
00:07:45Do you think it's a false report, a fake report?
00:07:48Then say so. Don't beat around the bush.
00:07:52Prem Shukla ji is sitting here, say it.
00:07:56If you want to say it, your leader's report is a
00:08:01to hide its failures.
00:08:04This is
00:08:07a report orchestrated by the government so that their failures are not discussed,
00:08:11their looting is not discussed. Okay, now you are saying this.
00:08:14Their looting is being discussed. I was saying the same thing
00:08:18because your leader Awadhesh Prasad is saying this, so why are you beating around the bush so much?
00:08:22Say it directly. He is putting them in the dock. He is saying that it was brought
00:08:26at this time so that attention could be diverted during the elections. Prem Shukla ji,
00:08:30you have brought this report to divert attention from donation theft.
00:08:33Its echoes will remain in 27. Ziaur Rahman Barq's
00:08:37father, his father said, he has already said it,
00:08:41I had played one of his statements.
00:08:43He said that the BJP wants to create another Ayodhya. Please answer this.
00:08:46Look, a judicial report
00:08:50is based on evidence and witnesses.
00:08:54The spokesperson of riot emperor
00:08:57Akhilesh Yadav here is rejecting
00:09:01that judicial report without even reading it.
00:09:04Brother, at the time of the Muzaffarnagar riots,
00:09:08the evil deed of giving shelter to the rioters
00:09:11was done by Azam Khan, the goat thief.
00:09:15Is that incident hidden from anyone? In the incident
00:09:19of Azam Khan, the goat thief, just like
00:09:21relief was given to Muslims among the rioters,
00:09:25it was not given to Hindu riot victims. And when the Supreme Court
00:09:28reprimanded, how did Mr.
00:09:31Akhilesh Yadav commit the evil act of instigating
00:09:35riots and giving the benefit of the riots
00:09:38to a specific community? This
00:09:41has been told by the Supreme Court with a reprimand. On this very Ram Janmabhoomi temple,
00:09:45on the temple of Shri Ram Lalla, jihadi terrorists
00:09:48committed the evil act of attacking.
00:09:52Did they ask their religion?
00:09:55What if they are Muslims, they are jihadis?
00:09:59What if they are Muslims, they are our vote bank?
00:10:02So to get some part of that Muslim vote bank,
00:10:06how did Akhilesh Yadav decide to release
00:10:09Muslim jihadis? And the Allahabad High Court
00:10:13reprimanded him for that, but these are shameless people.
00:10:17The shamelessness of these shameless people is that even today
00:10:20they defend it. So
00:10:24those who had the most riots during their tenure,
00:10:27those who gave shelter to rioters,
00:10:30Azam Khan, the goat thief, did the work of releasing
00:10:33those who started the riot in Muzaffarnagar from police stations.
00:10:37Is this hidden from anyone? Everyone knows this very well.
00:10:41This is an open secret. And right now,
00:10:44Ziaur Rahman Barq is instigating riots,
00:10:48and the BJP is benefiting. Ziaur Rahman
00:10:53to benefit the BJP.
00:10:55Brother, they have a history of instigating riots. During the tenure
00:10:59of the respected Yogi Adityanath of the Bharatiya Janata
00:11:02Party, riot conspiracies are thwarted.
00:11:06This is their pain. Now,
00:11:09I want to ask one thing.
00:11:12Faizan Sahab, I will ask you, Rashidiji, Rashidiji, first you tell me
00:11:15about this report that came, in which it was said that
00:11:19a rumor was spread. In this, the name of MP Ziaur
00:11:23Rahman Barq is there. The name of Suhail Iqbal is there.
00:11:26And it has been said that speeches were given before the survey.
00:11:30Efforts were made to gather crowds through social media. And many outsiders
00:11:34were activated, saying that look, the survey team that is coming
00:11:38is coming to demolish the mosque. In this report,
00:11:41through a list of witnesses,
00:11:44as Prem Shukla ji is saying, this report has come after
00:11:48what happened there. Are you accepting this report or not?
00:11:51Look, the Samajwadi Party
00:11:55has its own history,
00:11:56there is no doubt about it.
00:12:00The riot of 2013
00:12:03was such a horrific riot
00:12:06that even today lakhs of people are homeless.
00:12:10They never talk about it. They never gave anyone a home.
00:12:14They never went and healed anyone's wounds.
00:12:18And they always incite Muslims.
00:12:21They always provoke Muslims.
00:12:25The question is that whenever something comes up
00:12:28related to Muslims, who are the people from Samajwadi
00:12:32who speak first? Brother, ask us too,
00:12:35what do we want? They deliberately give
00:12:38such statements so that it creates incitement
00:12:42and somewhere or the other, it spreads hatred in the country.
00:12:46Whose statement, whose statement are
00:12:49you saying? These Samajwadi people give it.
00:12:53If at that time
00:13:25a little restraint had been shown, perhaps those five people would not have died,
00:13:29those five people who are gone.
00:13:32Those five people, they would have been someone's brother,
00:13:35someone's husband, someone's son.
00:13:39The death of those five people is a tragic death.
00:13:43Everyone should think about it. And all those
00:13:47who bake their political loaves on the dead bodies of others,
00:13:50they should at least think that only the one whose son dies
00:13:54or whose husband dies, only they know
00:13:58how much pain and suffering they go through. These people are just doing their political
00:14:01thing. Okay, Rashidi ji, what you are saying,
00:14:04you are saying that this is being done
00:14:07for political gain. I am also showing these pictures.
00:14:11My viewers should see them. The violence in Sambhal in '24,
00:14:14if people can remember by looking at these pictures,
00:14:18anyway, these are not pictures that can be forgotten. The way the violence happened, stone pelting happened,
00:14:21then the police came there, tried to stop it, tear gas.
00:15:26these riots, they incite their workers,
00:15:30that this will happen to you, you are doing this, Sunil ji,
00:15:34you are inciting your workers, they are saying that you people...
00:15:38I can only understand that perhaps it's a power struggle. They are saying that since 2014, you people are handing over
00:15:43to polarize, you people are spreading stones, handing over stones to your
00:15:47workers.
00:15:50Look, we are Samajwadi people, we never
00:15:54believe in riots, stone pelting, fighting,
00:15:58or violence. There is a Maulana Sahab sitting here,
00:16:01I don't know his name, whoever he is, Maulana
00:16:04Rashid is working as an agent of the BJP,
00:16:08whoever he is, he can't even speak the truth on TV. Sometimes he speaks in your support,
00:16:12he can't even speak the truth. Look, Sucharita, Sucharita,
00:16:15no, because
00:16:19I don't have a TV in front of me right now, so I couldn't know,
00:16:23I only heard the voice, for which I am only saying
00:16:27that brother, please listen. We were speaking in between.
00:16:30Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:16:34What is Rashidi ji saying?
00:17:07went to Jantar Mantar and the language and the things
00:17:11that were said to Modi ji, all those things about Modi ji
00:17:14should be considered true. What does
00:17:18this mean? What does this mean?
00:17:21Akhilesh Yadav ji is advancing the Samajwadi movement.
00:17:25Akhilesh Yadav ji is working to defeat
00:17:29the capitalist people with the slogan of PDA.
00:17:32No, tell me one thing. Tell me one thing, no,
00:17:36I am not saying that I agree with what the Maulana
00:17:39Sahab is saying, but with whom are you comparing
00:17:42Mulayam Singh ji? If some roadside person
00:17:46was using bad words at Jantar Mantar, are you comparing
00:17:50them with Mulayam Singh ji, with Netaji? Look, remember
00:17:54one thing, Netaji has said a lot about the BJP.
00:17:57Yes, they will definitely accept it. Oh brother,
00:18:02to
00:18:07weaken Akhilesh Yadav
00:18:10working as an agent of the BJP will not do.
00:18:14Look, the Samajwadi Party, with the slogan of PDA,
00:18:17halved the BJP in 2024.
00:18:21In 2027, they will clean
00:18:23sweep the BJP.
00:18:26Look, one thing, if any Muslim raises questions about the Samajwadi Party,
00:18:29why are they an agent of the BJP? Because you assume that no
00:18:33Muslim will support the BJP. If they are, then they are an agent of the BJP.
00:18:36Do you assume that? Faizan Sahab, is this
00:18:39what it is, that no Muslim will support?
00:18:43I am coming, Sunil ji, I am coming. Please bring Shahdab ji on screen.
00:18:47The thing is, if a Muslim votes for the Samajwadi Party,
00:18:50votes for Congress, then he is their beloved. And if
00:18:54he talks about RSS, talks about BJP, then he is a tout.
00:18:57This is their strange policy. And look, Sucharita ji, their arguments
00:19:01are very strange. In 1875,
00:19:04Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay wrote Vande Mataram
00:19:08because in 2025, it will be 150 years, and the Bengal elections will come, and
00:19:11the BJP will benefit from it. Is this some kind of argument?
00:19:15150 years ago, he wrote Vande Mataram for this reason. Now this report has come about the Sambhal riots.
00:19:19This report has come to hide the theft in the Ram temple.
00:19:23Oh brother, the report has come under legal process.
00:19:26And those who are guilty of the Ram temple are also being punished.
00:19:30And those who are guilty of Sambhal will also be punished.
00:19:33And I completely agree with this. Where did this sudden tendency come from
00:19:37to make Muslims victims and stone-pelters? In Turkman Gate,
00:19:41everything was going peacefully. Mohibullah Nadwi came,
00:19:45stone pelting started. Which party is he from?
00:19:48Samajwadi Party. Tahir Hussain, in Delhi riots,
00:19:52which party is he from? Aam Aadmi Party. Ziyaur Rahman Barq, guilty of riots in Sambhal,
00:19:56which party is he from? Samajwadi Party. Riots happen in Bareilly,
00:20:00Tauqeer Raza, the Samajwadi Party also supports them.
00:20:03In Delhi riots, Tahir Hussain, Sharjeel Imam,
00:20:07Umar Khalid, who supports all of them?
00:20:10These poor children, students, are called by the Samajwadi Party,
00:20:14Aam Aadmi Party, Congress Party. That is, you people
00:20:17will support every rioter, every stone-pelter,
00:20:20every looter. And those who talk about nationalism,
00:20:24talk about unity and integrity in the country, you will call them agents of the BJP.
00:20:27Until yesterday, Maulana Sajid Rashidi Sahab was their beloved.
00:20:31Today, a quote from Mulayam Singh Yadav ji was mentioned, that one who is not of his father
00:20:34cannot be of anyone. So today, Sajid Rashidi also became an agent
00:20:38of the BJP, a tout. They started saying this.
00:20:42Brother, he said this for his biological son. It could have been a political
00:20:45sentence for the BJP. But saying this for his
00:20:49biological son is very thoughtful,
00:20:53very considerable. I want to request that the work
00:20:56of the police is to protect, not to falsely implicate.
00:21:00Akhilesh ji, okay, but the work of the police is not
00:21:04to shoot Ram devotees. It was your and your
00:21:07father's rule, then girls could not go to school.
00:21:11Schools, colleges, we all know this. When it was your rule,
00:21:15the Bharat Milap program could not be held,
00:21:18and goons and criminals used to roam freely with guns.
00:21:21And in the film Ajay, it has been shown very well
00:21:25what changes have happened after Yogi Adityanath ji came.
00:21:29That's why those who walk on the path of lies, try to speak the truth,
00:21:32then something will happen. And what's the use of breaking a mirror?
00:21:36If you erase the stains from your face, then something will happen.
00:21:39And to the spokesperson of the Samajwadi Party,
00:21:43I have a request. The stone-pelters,
00:21:46abusers, reel-makers in Delhi were abusing so badly.
00:22:09The report states that the MP there raised slogans, standing on the mosque stairs, saying that this mosque was and will remain. It was told to the people that the survey team coming is coming to demolish it.
00:22:13Right now, because it is coming to remove it,
00:22:17is this inciting or not? No, look, Sucharita ji, when that survey
00:22:21team came, the way it was, and it seemed that Vishnu
00:22:25Shankar Jain was leading it, you can show its footage as well.
00:22:29First of all, if any report comes,
00:22:32from any commission, it is a commission formed by the government,
00:22:36and everyone knows what the government's
00:22:40role has been in it. The honorable Chief Minister ji repeatedly calls it Hari Har Mandir,
00:22:43even though there is no such evidence, no such court's
00:22:47decision has come, which the Chief Minister ji openly calls Hari Har
00:22:51Mandir. So what can be expected from them? But I have full faith in our
00:22:54judiciary that justice will be done.
00:22:57No innocent person will be punished, and no culprit, whether
00:23:01he is a person holding any position, whether he is an ordinary person,
00:23:04or any person, no one will be able to escape. The judiciary will do justice,
00:23:08it will definitely do so. We have faith in this.
00:23:12The other thing is that it is not necessary to consider any report as final.
00:23:15And as a lawyer, many such reports have come
00:23:20which were presented by commissions formed by the government, which the courts have refused
00:23:23to accept or have been proven wrong. So this is a fact.
00:23:27The other thing is that you are making allegations against someone that he did this
00:23:31and that. This matter will go to court. The court will definitely decide,
00:23:34but the attitude of the government
00:23:38and their officers at that time are speaking the language of politicians today.
00:23:41So we have told them that they should directly enter politics. So you are saying that many judicial commission
00:23:45reports came which were overturned in court or the court did not accept them.
00:23:49So you are saying that will you speak against this, because your
00:23:53leader gave many statements on Sambhal? He gave many statements
00:23:56during Sambhal, I remember, and interviews also.
00:24:00Now, if you feel that the report is wrong or
00:24:03sponsored, as Sunil ji called it fake, will MIM
00:24:07take any stand against this? Definitely,
00:24:09Sucharita ji, our chairman
00:24:12Mushir Chaudhary Sahab is keeping an eye on all things
00:24:16to see what legal aid can be provided in this matter.
00:24:19And because this matter will be decided by the judiciary
00:24:22in court, because neither the government nor any common person can decide it.
00:24:26And the Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen has condolences with those families whose lives were lost,
00:24:32who are victims, whoever they are, because everyone's life is important.
00:24:35Look, what happens is, it's very easy to say
00:24:39that we have our condolences, we stand with the people,
00:24:44when you keep calling a matter a lie,
00:24:48that is also incitement. So when you are calling something a lie,
00:24:52then try to go to court against it. If this is a lie,
00:24:55I openly say that if this is a lie and this is a lie
00:24:59served by the government, then do not express condolences with those people.
00:25:02Go to court to get their rights or will there only be rhetoric
00:25:06in the studio? Oh Sucharita ji, I clearly said
00:25:10that we will definitely approach the judiciary in this matter, and we believe
00:25:14that the judiciary will do justice, and we are ready for whatever legal aid
00:25:17the victims will need. The matter is about justice,
00:25:20and it is the job of the judiciary to do justice.
00:25:24We cannot declare anyone a criminal based on any report.
00:25:28I want to ask Sunil ji, since he is calling it fake,
00:25:32Sunil ji, will your party
00:25:36also go to court against this, that it is a false, fake report?
00:25:39You don't have that much courage.
00:25:41Oh, it's absolutely a fake report, it's a planned
00:25:45attempt
00:25:48by the government to falsely implicate people.
00:25:52And I am saying again, the Samajwadi Party does
00:25:55not have the courage to go to court against
00:25:59this.
00:26:02Oh, we have so much courage that we just halved the BJP, now we will completely
00:26:06wipe them out. You keep fighting for them.
00:26:10You are afraid to speak on issues related to Muslims. Your leader
00:26:13is even afraid to say the word Muslim. This is your courage.
00:26:17What atrocities have been committed against Muslims in the last nine years?
00:26:20What false propaganda are you spreading on TV?
00:26:22When Muslims were mob-lynched
00:26:27in the last nine years. Our houses were bulldozed,
00:26:30atrocities were committed.
00:26:32How many movements came out with your 100 MLAs and 37 MPs
00:26:36under the leadership of Akhilesh ji? Show one photo, prove Shahdab Chauhan wrong.
00:26:39If in Uttar Pradesh, the Yogi government
00:26:43or the BJP government
00:26:45is there,
00:26:48then Honorable Akhilesh Yadav ji fought
00:26:50and the Samajwadi Party fought
00:26:55till the house. People used to campaign
00:26:58that the Samajwadi Party is MY. The same Samajwadi Party
00:28:33has now become PDA. You can imagine,
00:28:36when it became PDA, where will the Bharatiya Janata Party be seen?
00:28:40Where are we?
00:28:43भारतीय जनता पार्टी कहां नजर आएगी, कहां
00:28:47With us, minority Muslims are with us.
00:28:50Muslims are with you in the minority, but you are not with Muslims.
00:28:53What is your stand on Vande Mataram? Tell me what your stand is on Vande Mataram, on the law that the government has brought.
00:28:57Tell me. You tell me.
00:29:01Do you support it or oppose it?
00:30:02Just tell me in one line. The Muslims of the country are watching whether the Samajwadi Party
00:30:06supports the law against the faith of Muslims,
00:30:10Tauheed, which was brought in Parliament, or opposes it.
00:30:13Tell me.
00:30:14Whatever
00:30:18law the Bharatiya Janata Party brings
00:30:22against any community, it is the Samajwadi Party
00:30:25that fights in the house. You people are not
00:30:29fighting. You people are not fighting.
00:30:32Only the Samajwadi Party is fighting. And we are saying again,
00:30:36if anyone can defeat the BJP,
00:30:39it is only the Samajwadi Party. I
00:30:41thought
00:30:48that in this debate, Prem ji, one second, bring Prem Shukla ji on screen.
00:30:52Prem ji, I thought this debate was a direct debate between SP versus
00:30:54BJP, but many fronts have opened up here now.
00:30:58हैं अब यहां