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00:00:34In the city of Semenov, Nizhny Novgorod region, a man, in front of his
00:00:38friends, doused his ex-lover with a flammable liquid and
00:00:41set her on fire. A criminal case has been initiated against the man
00:00:45accused of committing a crime under Part Three of Article
00:00:48Thirty, Part One of Article 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian
00:00:51Federation, attempted murder. There was no living
00:00:55spot left on the victim's body. She was taken to intensive care in critical
00:00:59condition, where she remained in an artificial coma for 4 days. The man
00:01:02was detained, and the court chose a measure of restraint against him in the form of detention
00:01:06in custody. Why did the man decide to burn his ex-lover?
00:01:10coal, it was so scary, these little things,
00:01:13they accumulated and then an explosion occurred, it was done
00:01:17specially, that is, there is already an understanding of who and what this person
00:01:21is, a spineless animal, why didn't the friends who were nearby
00:01:24stop him, she just burst into flames like a torch,
00:01:27and what the victim herself said when...
00:01:30she came to her senses in the hospital, I think that at the moment when all this happened to her, she
00:01:33said goodbye to life, she even told me, take
00:01:37me home, I want
00:01:38to die,
00:01:41she had a premonition that sooner or later her daughter's relationship would end
00:01:45in tragedy, in the studio is the mother of the victim, Tatyana
00:01:48Sirotkina,
00:01:54Tatyana, hello, what you had to go through, I wouldn't wish it on any
00:01:57mother, how are you holding up?
00:02:02How am I holding up? I came to your program,
00:02:05to ask for help, so that
00:02:08this scoundrel would be punished,
00:02:11the main thing is what state your daughter is in now, in a
00:02:14serious, in a very serious state, I can't look at
00:02:18her, but she is conscious, conscious, thank
00:02:21God, what was most severely affected, what
00:02:24body parts, everything was affected, head,
00:02:28face, terrible,
00:02:30hands, body, everything,
00:02:34practically, fingers, everything, her eyes
00:02:37see, her eyes see, thank God, uh-huh, it didn't go
00:02:41without surgery, there were three operations,
00:02:44a skin graft, I didn't
00:02:47specify where, but there was an operation on her hands, they even wanted to amputate
00:02:51her hand, but they saved it, do you know what
00:02:55percentage of burns, well, that's what they told me initially in
00:02:58Semenov in intensive care, 40-50%.
00:03:02Stanislav, 50% is a large area of damage. This
00:03:05is a huge area of damage. The thing is, in this case, it's not so much
00:03:09a burn, but rather burn disease that develops. And this is a very serious
00:03:13condition of the body, with a huge percentage of fatal
00:03:16outcomes. All internal organs are affected, huge intoxication.
00:03:20Not only the burn, but also the overall damage to the body is critical. And
00:03:24the fact that they wanted to amputate her arm, apparently, there was such severe
00:03:27gangrene, probably some necrosis took place.
00:04:00take me home, I want to die, terrible
00:04:04words, I sympathize with you very much, because the
00:04:07situation is very difficult, but there is always
00:04:11hope, and we will hope for the best, the main thing is to psychologically
00:04:15tune her
00:04:17to life, after all, to life, any life is still life,
00:04:21Tatyana, do you remember when you saw her for the first time after what happened,
00:04:24well, of course, I got a call, I
00:04:28rushed to the hospital. right to intensive care, because I am a
00:04:31medic, and I worked in this
00:04:34hospital, so they immediately let me in,
00:04:38of course, I saw her, what did
00:04:40you see,
00:04:43coal,
00:04:45everything was so sad, everything was so scary, at that
00:04:49moment you understood what happened, or you didn't know about the
00:04:52tragedy yet, no, I didn't know the events,
00:04:56it was later, she didn't
00:04:59tell me. Of course, the neighbors already had
00:05:02talks, but she herself didn't tell you anything, she
00:05:06is such a secretive person that she didn't say anything, I didn't even
00:05:09torment her, you provided us with a video from... from
00:05:12the hospital, let's watch. Bandaged
00:05:16from head to toe, Olga lies on a hospital bed,
00:05:18the thirty-three-year-old woman with difficulty opens her eyes and mouth, but for the sake
00:05:22of her ex receiving the harshest punishment, she is ready to tell
00:05:26everything even through pain. My ex-boyfriend
00:05:30doused me with gasoline and
00:05:33set me on fire. There were people nearby, no one
00:05:36helped. I don't remember anything else.
00:05:40Stanislav, looking at these shots.
00:05:43uh, what can you say about Tatyana's daughter's condition?
00:05:46Well, I can say that she is holding up well,
00:05:50because this is insane pain, and this pain, well, she can't
00:05:53move, she can't stir, yes, almost the entire front surface
00:05:56of her torso, I'm surprised she can even talk at all, yes, her face is burned,
00:06:00well, she's just all over, and it all hurts very much, it all
00:06:03brings insane suffering, and painkillers certainly
00:06:06relieve it, but they don't deprive people of sensation. The next
00:06:10question is that this is a very tricky story. Why? Because sometimes
00:06:13the patient's condition may seem better than it actually
00:06:17is. The overall condition of a person with severe intoxication should
00:06:21be very bad. I think she is certainly holding up well,
00:06:24being brave. Yes, yes, but it is very difficult for her.
00:06:27Inna, looking at such a lesion,
00:06:30can you imagine what the girl
00:06:33had to endure? Yes, I suspect that it's just
00:06:36an incredible shock, because you can expect anything,
00:06:40but not that you'll be doused with gasoline. And set on fire, and you'll
00:06:43literally turn into a torch, that is,
00:06:47well, not only is it a shock, I think that it's not even a shock, it's
00:06:50some kind of horror that a person experiences, well, that is,
00:06:53it's, well, it's a state of death that a person
00:06:56enters, that is, on the verge of life or death, and it is decided in
00:07:00an instant, I think that at the moment when all this happened to her, she
00:07:04said goodbye to life, probably that's why she tells her mother
00:07:07such terrible words, but for any mother to hear such words
00:07:11from her daughter, that...
00:07:43to douse the girl with gasoline and set her on fire,
00:07:46Tatyana, what happened there, how did your daughter end up
00:07:50at this man's place,
00:07:53you know, I can't say, she didn't
00:07:56tell me, she just said that
00:07:59she would go to work at two o'clock, I didn't
00:08:03know that after six months,
00:08:06practically
00:08:08not living with him, she went to me, that is, to...
00:08:23to him, he didn't come, I can't say what attracted her that day,
00:08:26maybe she wanted to take something
00:08:29from him, some of her things, well, and before
00:08:32they broke up, how long were they together, about
00:08:36two years, she used to leave
00:08:39him, and why did she leave, because he beat
00:08:42her, but she didn't tell me, this is all from
00:08:45the words of neighbors, but you somehow found out about it, how often did he
00:08:49beat her, how badly, I don't
00:08:52know how often, but once I came to
00:08:55her, we I came for her, she was
00:08:58badly beaten, what injuries did
00:09:01your daughter have, bruises, on her
00:09:05arms, on her legs, under
00:09:07her eyes, at that moment you didn't take her away from this cohabitant, you
00:09:11took her away, I took her, but she still
00:09:14went back to him later, well, he called,
00:09:17apologized, constantly,
00:09:20came, but she didn't file a report against him, I suppose,
00:09:24no, why, you advised her, surely, or
00:09:27not, oh, I generally
00:09:30advised her to leave him, I always
00:09:34had a premonition that this would all end badly, Tatyana, I
00:09:38apologize, but usually
00:09:41a woman, in this victim syndrome, something comes from
00:09:45childhood, maybe she was an unloved child, maybe she wanted,
00:09:48maybe, thank you for what you said, yes Tanechka, yes,
00:09:52you see, where this comes from, yes, that is, she wants to be
00:09:55good, she wants to be with this man to say, I'm good,
00:09:58good, why are you hitting me, that is, this happens with these
00:10:02victims, to such an extent, why didn't the girl leave,
00:10:05the man is a strong manipulator, 100%, he
00:10:09manipulated her, broke her self-esteem, said I'm better than
00:10:40well, if we summarize, do you assume that during these six months of alleged separation, of which her mother was aware, she met with him, not at night, but during the day, maybe
00:10:43somewhere, briefly, because she
00:10:47seemed to want to forgive him,
00:10:51but she was embarrassed in front of her mother, I decided to break up, but in the end not...
00:11:27Natalia, how did you end up at the scene that day? The
00:11:31accused called me,
00:11:34and we decided to meet, he called me a taxi, I
00:11:38came to his house, and who are you to him, we are just
00:11:40friends, there are no
00:11:44relations between you and there never were, was there before, well,
00:11:48when I was about 13, we dated him, you could say that
00:11:51he was your first love, probably, yes, but at that...
00:12:25he, why would I take her, she was there, excuse
00:12:28me, I'll say, can I, yes,
00:12:31there, well, that's how he started
00:12:33being rude to her, then somehow everything turned into
00:12:37other conversations, we talked, and maybe
00:12:41about, well, probably 20 minutes,
00:12:44Olya flew in and started yelling at him that why weren't you
00:12:48answering the phone,
00:12:51he, well, he also started being rude to her, she...
00:12:55Natasha, your husband is serving, why are you here, I told her, Olya, I said, well, we're just
00:12:58sitting, talking, nothing special, and Olya knew
00:13:01that we used to date him, maybe there was some jealousy or
00:13:05something, she hit him on the cheek, then
00:13:09suddenly, well, I thought it was water, to be honest, he
00:13:13splashed it, maybe to calm her down, or something,
00:13:16well, and he splashed her,
00:13:19then he set her
00:13:22on fire, she just flared
00:13:25up like a torch, our friend who was with us, he quickly
00:13:28started extinguishing her, and how did they extinguish the girl, he
00:13:32covered her with a blanket, you understand, when I came up to her,
00:13:35I was in such shock, it all happened so quickly, it all happened
00:13:39instantly, well, imagine,
00:13:43it's hard to imagine, if honestly, when you came up to her, was she
00:13:46still burning, no, she was no longer burning, what did you
00:13:49start doing, well, I go up to her, Olya-Olya,
00:13:53I touch her, well, with my hands, and I'm in shock, she's all lying there,
00:13:57imagine, you started a bonfire, yes, well, this log,
00:14:00excuse me for such a word, of course, it's not good, yes,
00:14:03to compare, this charred log me,
00:14:07you understand,
00:14:11she's all black, she's just, I touch Olya, I'm in
00:14:14shock, first of all, you understand, her eyes
00:14:17are open, her hair is all burned, I even remember
00:14:20how her hair, well, she was
00:14:24lying there somehow... so strangely, well,
00:14:27this was still melting,
00:14:31smoldering, smoldering, yes, that's it, Vitaly, how should one act in such situations,
00:14:35if you see that a person, God forbid, has caught fire,
00:14:37is burning? Well, here the actions were basically correct,
00:14:41you always need to cover with something so that oxygen
00:14:44does not have access and further burning does not
00:14:47occur, and given that it was
00:14:51a flammable liquid, well, or acetone or something similar.
00:14:55Yes, it immediately gets into all places, it
00:14:58is highly volatile, and of course, such fires are very difficult
00:15:01to extinguish, water is useless, water was useless,
00:15:05and the fact is that with water, the doctor can confirm me, it is not always necessary
00:15:08to do this, so as not to, when water mixes with flammable
00:15:12liquid, to cause further intoxication of the body,
00:15:16intoxication of open wounds, well, here the opinions differ, but
00:15:20it is considered that, first, prevent oxygen access, second,
00:15:23cool the burn site.
00:15:45it splashes and the burning area increases. If we're talking about gasoline, the main thing is that the vapors ignite, they burn out instantly, there's not much left. Therefore, for example, water could have been
00:15:49added here, but the question is how quickly you can gather such a volume to douse
00:15:53the whole person, right? While you're getting glasses, something will continue, so
00:15:56the quickest thing is to cover it with something, like a fire blanket, just some
00:16:00blanket, preferably not synthetic, because any
00:16:03synthetic jacket will just burn and melt.
00:16:08You
00:16:13shouldn't touch anything at that moment, you need to call medics, that's all,
00:16:17because if you remove it, a - it hurts, b -
00:16:20it's non-sterile instruments at home, non-sterile hands,
00:16:24yes, it's simply introducing new infections, plus tissue
00:16:27trauma, there's a very high probability of bleeding developing
00:16:31immediately, because the skin is burned, the underlying blood vessels will just start bursting and the person
00:16:34will start bleeding out, and that's horribly painful.
00:17:07indifference, it speaks of his initial intent, it speaks of the fact that he committed
00:17:11a crime, he wanted death,
00:17:13from my point of view, it speaks of the fact that he absolutely did not feel guilty
00:17:17for what he had done, probably, yes, because when we were at the police station,
00:17:20I was first in one office, and he was in another
00:17:24office, then they moved me to that office, well, there were a lot
00:17:27of police there too, he was sitting on a chair, then they took him away,
00:17:31and he looked at me with such eyes, you know, as if
00:17:34nothing at all, well, nothing, I remember that...
00:17:37gaze, I'm shaking all over, I can't, I'm in shock, I just
00:17:41tell him, I say, you scumbag, I say, you, you ruined everyone's life, I say, you
00:17:45destroyed the girl, and does he realize this, do you think, he
00:17:49has such a blank stare, well, empty, as if he didn't do
00:17:53anything at all, well, empty too, you know, there's an detached stare, when a person is so in
00:17:56shock from what he did and repents, does he
00:17:59repent, I don't know, I think, probably,
00:18:02no, but Natalia just said an interesting phrase, when they came out, he
00:18:06told her that she...
00:18:37it sounded, but we judge this based
00:18:40on information from one side, the other side says:
00:18:43yes, Natasha came and says that she
00:18:46flew in, slapped him, we don't know yet
00:18:50if he reacted immediately to this slap or something
00:18:53else, question two, at some point he
00:18:56grabbed some dish, the question is what dish, was it a bottle,
00:19:00was it a glass, what was it, a bottle, well, a plastic
00:19:04bottle, where did he even get it, open or closed?
00:19:07bottle, he unscrewed, splashed, unscrewed splashed, could this be in
00:19:11a state of affect, prolonged affect, as it is called,
00:19:14when he was driven to such a state, Tatyana said that she
00:19:18saw her with bruises, and we don't know the origin of these bruises, because she is
00:19:22a partisan, as you say, she said nothing, where did she get
00:19:25the bruises, the question is, you took her, yes, that's clear, bruises, daughter, you
00:19:29know, she probably beat herself, pretending, she beat herself, and
00:19:33then called her mom and said I was
00:19:34sick,
00:19:37what kind of nonsense are you talking about? You saw the footage,
00:19:40what happened to her, she's all covered in burns, what are you
00:19:44talking about? It became known that he opened the bottle, that means
00:19:47it was done on purpose, that is, there is already an understanding of who and what
00:19:51this person is, and just as I called him an animal, I will call him again
00:19:54a spineless animal, there's no other way to say it, what doubts can
00:19:58all those present here have, whether he beat her before or not, if we
00:20:02see the consequences of this incident, of this
00:20:05crime in legal terms.
00:20:16wanted to cause her death, do you have doubts that he beat her before
00:20:19that, it could have been a cumulative effect, let's ask
00:20:22Natalia, she is not a specialist, but she was there, which is very important, from your
00:20:26point of view, was this done in a state of affect, at least as I
00:20:29know
00:20:33him, this is not the first such case, well, not...
00:20:37arson, I mean, well, tell me, what else happened? Well, when we
00:20:41met him, he just wouldn't let me
00:20:44pass, I was hit by a car on his
00:20:47initiative, I got a concussion. Well, then my dad takes
00:20:51me, we don't file any report, he didn't actually
00:20:54bear any responsibility for that, no, then before that, when we
00:20:58were already dating, I found out that he was, well, cheating, yes, well,
00:21:01the girl is 13 years old, you love her, this is your first
00:21:04love,
00:21:06I started, and we hung out in the same company with this girl, when
00:21:10I found out that he was cheating on me with her, we had
00:21:13a scandal with her, to be honest, we even
00:21:17pulled each other's hair, well, and... where we
00:21:20hung out, well, according to us, yes, that's the cage,
00:21:23a company gathered there, there was a bath near the
00:21:26bathhouse, I was left to blame, he drowned
00:21:30me in that bath, just by my hair, he drowned
00:21:34me, he didn't get punished for it again, again he didn't get anything, they
00:21:38just took me away from him on a motorcycle to another
00:21:41place, and why didn't anyone raise the alarm,
00:21:44the person does terrible things,
00:21:47which should actually be criminally punishable. No one files
00:21:50a report, raises the alarm, or contacts anyone,
00:21:53it was like that, that they lived near
00:21:57the station, they had a two-story house, we came to visit him
00:22:00then, he just sat on me and started hitting
00:22:03me, imagine, well, blood
00:22:06splashes in one direction, in the other direction, and even after
00:22:10that you didn't go to file a report, even after that I didn't go, why
00:22:14please explain to me, I don't know, probably there was some, first of all, maybe
00:22:17fear, fear of love? Well, I don't, I don't
00:22:21know, I won't explain, I'm surprised at you, Natalia, well, you were
00:22:2413 years old when you endured all those abuses that you
00:22:28went through, but why continue to communicate with this person, you say, I
00:22:31came to visit him, what kind of visit, he almost
00:22:35killed you then, I apologize, Tatyana, I don't
00:22:38understand you either, you were there, I was there, you should have
00:22:41said, when he was beating her, you say, you brought her
00:22:45home, yes, I would have dragged this daughter by her hair, I wouldn't have
00:22:49... locked her up, she's an adult,
00:22:53I won't tie her down, you can't forbid a person. Tatyana, when I asked
00:22:56Natalia if she thinks he repents or not, you
00:23:00shook your head, you're sure he doesn't
00:23:02repent,
00:23:05not at all. In your opinion, what punishment should he receive? The
00:23:08full extent of the law. At the moment he is in a pre-trial detention center, in
00:23:12a pre-trial detention center, yes, in Nizhny Novgorod. What charges
00:23:15have been brought against him? 105, attempted
00:23:18murder, unequivocally. In his actions, it is precisely 105 that is seen -
00:23:22this is murder, but not murder as a completed
00:23:24crime, namely attempted murder, and I would say that most
00:23:28likely, it is still part two, point with particular cruelty,
00:23:32because gasoline is precisely the qualifying sign that falls under this
00:23:35article, punishment up to 20 years of imprisonment, is it really
00:23:39for the sake of a man who set her on fire, Olga even left her
00:23:42child, the child lives with his father,
00:23:45I even told her not to
00:23:48take him, probably the father, in my opinion, is a more adequate
00:23:51person, and what could have driven the accused to such savagery, according to
00:23:55his friend, she lived with one, then with
00:23:58another, left her ex, with this she also mocked him a little, most
00:24:02likely, we will find out in a few
00:26:03Does he even realize he has a problem? In the morning,
00:26:06yes, during the day he dreams of getting rid of it, and in the evening
00:26:09again, everything's fine, leave me alone,
00:26:12good heavens, it used to be only on Fridays, then after
00:26:15work, then I relax like that, and now
00:26:19I already recognize his steps in the stairwell, how tipsy he
00:26:22is, the children notice,
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00:29:46beyond in a split second a young woman burst into flames like
00:29:49a torch, her ex-partner set her on fire in front of acquaintances, miraculously
00:29:53surviving, the unfortunate woman has already undergone several operations, now her
00:29:57mother wants to achieve the most severe punishment for the arsonist, another
00:30:00acquaintance...
00:30:02of the detained victim, is sure that if she had been there, the tragedy would not
00:30:06have happened. In the studio, Tatiana Korol. Hello,
00:30:09Tatiana.
00:30:17Tatiana, why do you think you could have prevented the trouble if
00:30:20you were nearby? Well, because nothing like that ever happened when I was around. And who are
00:30:24you to whom? Well, we all live on the same
00:30:28street. The victim first lived in another
00:30:31house. Well, with her husband, and our
00:30:35children became friends, our children were close in age, roughly speaking, in the same
00:30:39sandbox, so we, accordingly, also
00:30:43as mothers, gathered, sat, walked, and
00:30:46what impression did she make on you as a woman, as a mother?
00:30:49Well, she appeared on our street in 2015, even when
00:30:52she was pregnant, so the child
00:30:56was born in front of us, a year later my child
00:30:59was also born. Well...
00:31:15And what happened in 2023? Well,
00:31:18there was a conflict among our friends because of our
00:31:21children. What kind? Well, in short, my
00:31:24fingers were broken. Who? One of our neighbors, one of
00:31:28our friends, mothers, Tatiana's daughter, no, and
00:31:32what does Olga have to do with it? When the police arrived, when I filed a statement, because one
00:31:36finger on my left hand, on my right hand, was
00:31:39crushed in the iron door.
00:31:42It turned out that the case was closed, I wrote:
00:32:15She started to be jealous. Well, and did
00:32:18you know this man well? Yes, we knew him, because we live on the same street. So,
00:32:21besides neighborly relations,
00:32:23did anything connect you with this
00:32:27man? Last year he started
00:32:30courting me. Did these advances lead to anything? Did you have a romantic relationship? Well, yes,
00:32:34he gave gifts to my children. Do I understand correctly that he was courting you
00:32:38at a time when he was officially, as it were, dating Tatiana's
00:32:41daughter? Yes, yes, he said, "That's it, I kicked her out."
00:32:45Everything, we broke up, and you believed him? Why shouldn't I
00:32:49believe him? I was a single woman at that time. And how did you find out about what
00:32:52happened? I found out that day, September 3rd,
00:32:55I'm walking my children from a club, we stopped at
00:32:59the end of the street here, well, neighbors are
00:33:02standing, looking into his windows,
00:33:06and they're saying something. I'm saying, "What happened?" They
00:33:08say, "Well, it's like this and that, that he doused her with gasoline,"
00:33:12and lit her with a lighter. My...
00:33:19ambulances there, well, there were a lot of cars, I
00:33:23say, "How could that be?" I called another neighbor,
00:33:27she tells me, "There was a girl there, and because of the girl,
00:33:30did all this happen?" In short, that is, Olga
00:33:33was jealous of Natalia, right? What kind of
00:33:36relationship did she have with Olga? Well, you understand, we had, if we had
00:33:40a relationship, ours was calmer, I'm a family person, my children are always my first
00:33:44priority, so I... I won't go anywhere, he's there,
00:33:47"Come to me," well, I know that people gather at his place, I won't go there, I don't
00:33:51want to, and Olga, isn't she like that? She also has a child, the child
00:33:55lives with his father, and he doesn't live with her. And Tatiana, why
00:33:59does your daughter, your granddaughter live? They
00:34:01agreed during the divorce,
00:34:04that until Olya doesn't
00:34:08take her, because I even told her not
00:34:12to take her, why because of him?
00:34:45Here all these inclinations, one is
00:34:47drowned, another is knocked down, a third is set on fire, what
00:34:51is happening in general? I think the father has seen all this already, he saved
00:34:54the child, yes, he just protected him from this Alectina, and the fact
00:34:58that the mother so easily gives away her daughter, choosing in
00:35:02fact a man, yes, a new one, how does
00:35:05that characterize her? Well, I would say as a flighty
00:35:09person, I don't understand why, why is this
00:35:12necessary? Why did you come to him? Why, what
00:35:16to talk about? Your lives are different. I don't understand
00:35:19the reason why you are all flocking to
00:35:23him like flies, Alectina, following up on your
00:35:26words, I still don't understand why everyone persistently
00:35:29forgives him, yes, they return, despite
00:35:33the fact that they have already been killed, and overkilled, they still
00:35:36go and open up to love, they
00:35:40even say that he's not such a bad person, Tatiana, do you have
00:35:43an explanation why? Which
00:36:28led
00:36:36to arguments and violence, and on
00:36:39both sides, as I understand, this violence took place during
00:36:42arguments. At some point, it seems, one thing
00:36:46coincided with another in her head, that her suspicions
00:36:49were not unfounded. Natalia, in the moment when she was there,
00:36:53she simply became a trigger that unleashed this inner jealousy.
00:37:27Sergey, how often did your friend and Olga argue? Before the situation,
00:37:31let's say, an unpleasant one, I was visiting
00:37:34him, he invited me, we
00:37:37had a conversation about work, he asked,
00:37:41so I went to visit him, we went in,
00:37:44sat down, I said, "Why are you alone?" He says, "Well, I'm alone
00:37:48now," so we started talking,
00:37:52we were talking, then someone knocked on his door, I
00:37:55say, "Well, go out," maybe I thought, neighbors, maybe... that thing, he went out,
00:37:59opened the door a crack, they started, let's say, well,
00:38:03a verbal conversation in raised tones,
00:38:06so, but he's saying something, that is, like I'm not alone, then they
00:38:10came in, let's say, I saw a girl, he
00:38:14says, "This is my wife," common-law wife, let's say,
00:38:17well, that's it, that is, we continue our dialogue with him, she starts
00:38:21getting into our dialogue, "Who is this?" well, at me, that is, like,
00:38:25"What is he doing here? I'm nothing to you," she started, that is, like to switch
00:38:29to him, that's it, I just
00:38:32tell my friend, I say, "Let's better
00:38:35talk outside," that is, I tried to smooth
00:38:38things over, but it didn't work, she
00:38:41started, like, raising her hands, swinging at him, what
00:38:44is this, he says to him, "Calm down,"
00:38:47I already, I couldn't stand it, I say, "I don't like
00:38:50seeing this," so I say, "That's it," I say, "I'm
00:38:53leaving," well, I'm not interested, that's what I say, nevertheless, throughout
00:38:56this... period, what she shouted, at least some quotes,
00:39:00what, what claims did she make against him? She supposedly,
00:39:03"Why did you kick me out?" He says, "We'll talk about
00:39:07this later," so, well, don't be there with me, I understood that he didn't tell her the reason,
00:39:10but all this happened on the eve of the tragedy, yes, on the eve, it happened on
00:39:14the eve. Sergey, what do you think happened
00:39:17on the day of the tragedy? As far as I know, he asked
00:39:21her to leave the apartment, he asked her to leave
00:39:24repeatedly, even the neighbors heard
00:39:27screams, well, they had, it turns out, a
00:39:30conflict, perhaps verbal, the neighbors even asked
00:39:34her, "Please, leave." And why did he let her into
00:39:37the apartment, you see, but
00:39:40she, as far as I know, yes, she lived with
00:39:43one, then with another, she went back to her ex, that is, like this,
00:39:47today with one, tomorrow with another, like this. Her mother says that
00:39:50he was the only one in her life, where is your mother, you mother,
00:39:54forgive me, she went to her husband, well, they didn't...
00:39:57live, but they didn't live, but she met him, went to him, to
00:40:01him, I don't know, well, I don't know, but I know that she left, yes, she
00:40:04went to her husband, accordingly, my friend,
00:40:08well, he's also uncomfortable at heart, no matter what, yes, but
00:40:11they had a family argument, figuratively speaking, there, well, he kicked
00:40:15her out, yes, it's his apartment, well, he, could she have been with you
00:40:18there, well, at her mother's, no questions, he might not have had any, that is,
00:40:22well, no jealousy there or anything else, she goes to her ex-
00:40:25husband, her daughter lives with her husband, but
00:40:29to visit her daughter, I understand, that is, let's say, there
00:40:33you came, yes,
00:40:36you were there, well, for a day, even a night, yes, but not for a week,
00:40:39a week, she didn't go to that husband, she
00:40:43called another guy her husband,
00:40:46another one, yes, in 2023 we met her at
00:40:50the polyclinic, she was walking with a guy, but
00:40:54not that one, I started to question her about those statements.
00:40:57Why about me, she goes so brazenly, I say, why
00:41:01did you make the case closed? I wanted, well, a fair
00:41:05end, well, my fingers, my hands, I couldn't go to the bathroom, because
00:41:08all my hands were, and it was, well, in a cast in this, she
00:41:12says, "Now I'll call my husband," and I say, "Who is she?" She calls this
00:41:15young man, he arrives completely runs
00:41:19up, such a weakling, so thin and small, did you know about
00:41:22this man? That is, was it the third one or is this
00:41:25the father with the daughter? No, no,
00:41:27I know about this man, but I know that she
00:41:31didn't live with him, maybe she didn't live, she visited, well,
00:41:35she visited, she visited, eventually she lived. Vladimir, what do you think, this
00:41:38inconsistency. If
00:48:17the limit. A mother asks for justice for her daughter.
00:48:20Her ex-partner set her on fire and didn't even...
00:48:52There really was a whole company in the apartment, says another
00:48:56ex of the accused, Natalia Zaumorova. She and their mutual friend
00:48:59were sitting at the table with the host when Olga appeared at the doorstep and started
00:49:02a scandal. She hit him on the cheek, then suddenly,
00:49:06well, I thought it was just water,
00:49:10he splashed it on her then
00:49:13he set her on fire, she just burst into flames like
00:49:16a torch. Her friend rushed to extinguish Olga, they called an ambulance
00:49:20and the police. Tatiana Sirotkina learned about what happened to her daughter
00:49:24from her neighbors and immediately rushed to the hospital. I was in
00:49:27shock.
00:49:29It was just charcoal. I was scared.
00:49:33Another friend of the accused, Sergey Sukhorebrov, witnessed the argument
00:49:36of the exes on the eve of the tragedy. He claims that the couple's relationship was always
00:49:40difficult, but in his opinion, it was Olga who added fuel to the fire
00:49:44with her constant infidelities. She
00:49:47lived with one, then with another, went back to her ex, that is,
00:49:50like that. My friend, well, he's also uncomfortable at heart, on the day of
00:49:54the tragedy were you visiting your friend? No, I was just
00:49:58told, they called and said, "There's such a situation, our mutual
00:50:02acquaintance called, says, 'Have you heard the news?'" I say, "What
00:50:05news?" He says, "Your friend
00:50:09burned," he told me, initially,
00:50:11"burned
00:50:13his common-law wife," immediately believed? I say,
00:50:17"What do you mean, burned?" He
00:50:19says, "Well, like that." If he really did exactly what you were told, does he
00:50:23deserve punishment?
00:50:26Punishment, for every action you need to answer, no matter what you did,
00:50:29of course, this is very cruel in relation, well, to this act, it's cruel,
00:50:33it would be better, roughly speaking, to give him a slap, well, figuratively speaking, throw
00:50:37him out, but not to that extent. Sergey, are you familiar with
00:50:40Natalia? With Natalia? Yes, no, you are not aware
00:50:43that he drowned her, beat her for some reasons? He didn't
00:50:47tell you? No, I've known him for only, well, 3 years. In 3 years
00:50:51he never showed aggression.
00:51:52ran away to him simply from, as
00:51:55she told me, "Mom, I was embarrassed
00:51:59to come to you," this, she, she,
00:52:03the question is, why did she come back? When
00:52:20a wife runs away to such a friend, she shouldn't,
00:52:23why, do you think she went to a man and not to her
00:52:25mother? She was afraid
00:52:28of me, no, I think that some
00:52:32things she simply couldn't say to her mother out of
00:52:35delicacy and her character. She should have said it, there was a
00:52:39need, well, her friends, she is jealous of her friends, she doesn't even
00:52:42know, this one was with him, that one was with him, this, this, this
00:52:46is absolute jealousy, well, she could have come to Anastasia, she came
00:52:49to you, she came, we talked on the phone, we had a lot,
00:52:52yes, a lot of conversations, she always said, told that he
00:52:56hit her, there was even such a case, but I personally didn't see it, but I heard
00:52:59conversations, he jumped on her head, then it was very,
00:53:03yes, there was such a situation. And why after you found
00:53:07out about it, did you not take her by the hand to the police so that she would not
00:53:10write a statement? No, she didn't, we even, I always told her, "Leave, I'm the
00:53:14same, everything you endure, what's good in these
00:53:17relationships?" How did she react? First, we talk
00:53:20to her, yes, she listens perfectly, yes, she agrees, that's it, yes,
00:53:24we break up, we won't live together anymore, that's it, I don't want him, he's
00:53:28a tyrant, he's a demon, then suddenly, I find out that they're living
00:53:31together again. And why, how did she explain this to you, why?
00:54:17We already know many cases when a woman is with a man who
00:54:20doesn't value her at all, treats her, well, worse than a dog, she
00:54:24doesn't leave him, but he evokes strong
00:54:28emotions in her, he evokes in her, it seems, some kind of, well, what she
00:54:31probably considers love, she didn't explain, I, I honestly...
00:55:05at the moment when she sees a man, she evaluates him, as they say, by parameters, I, for
00:55:08one, am deeply convinced that in the first 20 seconds
00:55:12of a woman seeing a man, she internally decides whether she will let him
00:55:16in or reject him, it's somewhere at a subconscious level, woven into some
00:55:20neural connections, you evaluate, is this your man,
00:55:23ding, or not your man, from the point
00:55:26of view, from the point of view of purely physiological
00:55:29perception, here, it seems to me, in these co-dependent, very
00:55:33difficult relationships,
00:56:10and you want a continuation, so the stakes are rising, when the victim will be able to stand on her feet again, as well as a DNA test for the daughter of the pioneer leader and the married
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00:57:05I will come to your aid,
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00:57:15is there, little meaning.
01:03:01Beyond the limits, this is beyond the limits, he was jealous, he beat
01:03:04her, he chased her away, but the young woman returned to her tormentor
01:03:08again and again, until one day she almost burned
01:03:11the man set her on fire.
01:03:14Tatyana, if your daughter, when she recovers, wants to return to
01:03:18this man, will you stop her, if you do, how?
01:03:22Oh, first of all, he will return, I hope, I
01:03:26wish him health, God grant that he
01:03:29stays there longer. He served his time and lived with
01:03:32this, well, he will serve his time, get out, call,
01:03:36say hello, come visit, no,
01:03:39no,
01:03:42do you think, this is
01:03:46it,
01:03:50will it ever happen again, and if suddenly again she recovers and starts bringing him
01:03:54packages to prison, stop her, is that possible,
01:03:57first of all, packages...
01:04:00she won't carry them, she will, if anything, send them
01:04:03through someone, that is, through me, or
01:04:07how? Well, they have mutual acquaintances, she has friends.
01:04:10имеются.
01:04:14No one, his niece called me, his
01:04:18niece, she has three sons, she said: "I'm
01:04:21so ashamed, if they grow up to be like
01:04:25him, they won't even help
01:04:29him." In your circle, everyone understands that he committed something terrible
01:04:32and everyone, roughly speaking, is on your side, he said, he
01:04:36has two brothers, one is very, he
01:04:40has stores, that's it, he said, I won't
01:04:44even order, no lawyers, he didn't
01:04:47say, Eldar, Tatyana hopes that this
01:04:50person will not be released soon, will
01:04:54you help her achieve a fair and severe punishment?
01:04:57This is not a question, I have such a desire. From the very beginning of the broadcast,
01:05:01I want to help Tatyana and your daughter also with this
01:05:04criminal case as a representative of the victim to go all the way, this
01:05:08criminal case will go to court without us, but you have the right to file
01:05:12a lawsuit for moral damages from him, not you, your
01:05:15daughter, in this I can also help you, we will draw up everything, we will do everything,
01:05:19so yes, contact us, we will help you, I believe not only moral, but also
01:05:22compensation for treatment, there should be some, there are two components, Timur,
01:05:26you are right, there are moral components, this is moral damage,
01:05:29moral suffering, which she is currently experiencing, and material, which is related
01:05:32to her treatment, to the purchase of necessary
01:05:36medical drugs, and of course, to the plastic
01:05:39surgeries that she will undergo, both of these, we have the right
01:05:42to recover moral damages from him, if we are talking about moral damage, then it is at least 1
01:05:46million rubles, at least, and material based on how much she
01:05:50will spend, how much you will spend in total on treatment and...