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00:00:00now we're rebuilding it and we're using
00:00:02munitions that
00:00:04me are very powerful, very good, but we wouldn't have been using them, we
00:00:08could
00:00:08in have used something else, but these are a little
00:00:12bit older type, equally as effective,
00:00:16and we
00:00:17it it's things that we have so much, plus we have supplies of
00:00:21munitions all over the world that if we ever needed them we take
00:00:24that, we're supplied all over the world, but
00:00:28uh
00:00:29of we
00:00:29have we're in very... very very good
00:00:31of shape. Russia seems to have increased their attacks
00:00:33of on,
00:00:34of that must be a concerned, well it's
00:00:38look, we're not
00:00:39of involved from the standpoint, it's uh, we're separated by an
00:00:42ocean, but I hate to see 25,00 young people a
00:00:46month get killed, and that's what's happening between Russia and Ukraine, they're
00:00:50losing average 25,000, mostly soldiers a
00:00:54month,
00:00:55a and we're working on it, and I think we're making progress,
00:00:59but "it's a violent, very violent war, there's a lot of hatred in
00:01:03of that war, lot of hatred between the two leaders. I settle eight
00:01:07wars, I thought this would be maybe one
00:01:09of the easier ones and it turned out to be the most
00:01:13of of of difficult, but progress is being made. Thank you
00:01:14of very much
00:01:16of of everybody,
00:01:19of
00:01:23of US president Donald Trump speaking in
00:01:27Washington DC reiterated as administration sp. focus on ending the Russian Ukraine
00:01:31war
00:01:31of through diplomatic efforts while stressing that peace remains a top foreign policy
00:01:35priority, he also highlighted his economic agenda, saying his
00:01:38administration remains committed to boosting investment, creating jobs,
00:01:42lowering cost for American families and strengthening the
00:01:45of US me economy. Trump said his administration will continue pursuing
00:01:48in policies aimed at economic growth alongside efforts to address major international
00:01:52challenges including the ongoing conflict of Ukraine and
00:01:55Russia.
00:01:59That's it. for the moment for more
00:02:00of details and live streaming blog to our website pakistantv.com take
00:02:04care.
00:02:38Choice over there at the very helm of affairs, but rather to
00:02:41of their utter surprise and shock, what they got was more
00:02:45hardlineine leadership and that is what their stance, the
00:02:49Iranian stance has been consolidating over the last five months and they are
00:02:53not going to back off, and also when you talk about the
00:02:56of state of homo scenario, the control
00:02:58of the Iranians has inc. and it will continue to
00:03:01increase in the coming days as this particular
00:03:05conflict on forma shahin we'd like to have
00:03:07your comment thank you, think i would want to comment on this
00:03:11particularly with regards to the latest developments as we have seen
00:03:15of them of happening, think in this regard what is most important to talk about is the
00:03:19state of homose issue which we have seen at least to some extent to the
00:03:22extent
00:03:23of the being operational control and the movement of traffic
00:03:26inward and outward has to some extent been agreed between. Iran,
00:03:30but having said that, something that would post to the first speaker,
00:03:34I think something which is very important to pinpoint
00:03:37of here a is in the fact that yes we do see that both countries at least to some level
00:03:41have agreed upon you know exercising this level of control
00:03:45where one part wh one country would allow inboundships, the other would allow outbound
00:03:49ships, but having said that we also have to remember the fact that this is
00:03:52of something which has not been accepted or endorsed by either USA or any other
00:03:56international framework so with
00:03:58of regards to the latest development. I still feel that there is still a lot of gray area
00:04:02even when it comes to resolving the straight of warm issue and then within
00:04:06that one issue as well there are so many other issues which have not been talked
00:04:09about until unless we get a published account of what both the
00:04:13countries have actually
00:04:14of agreed upon it will be very difficult to comment for example there have been outstanding
00:04:18issues
00:04:18of the fees earlier you would remember that Iran was proposing a fees of
00:04:22five to 7% and
00:04:23then oman was actually putting forward its own figure of 3% and then of course
00:04:27there are very important questions of international law to start. with which
00:04:31actually mandate a discussion on the very simple fact that can or cannot these
00:04:35countries actually impose a mandatory troll and if they can and
00:04:38of how exactly can they do just that? moving on, I think there are also very
00:04:42important questions of
00:04:44you in the event that some kind of an agreement is actually reached with regards to the state
00:04:48of momus entire you know issue, how will it actually be
00:04:52enforced? will the regional mediators with Pakistan for that matter have
00:04:56any kind of influence when it
00:04:58of comes to having a monitoring? verifiable kind of
00:05:01a you know influence and then of course the issue of hootis is something that
00:05:05has you not been touched topon again even if we are aiming
00:05:08towards having you know straight of hormos opened and miraculous. he
00:05:12does open at some point in time with
00:05:14you know hypothetically speaking, even America agreeing to this, what about
00:05:18the you know new war front that we see at the huti front, because we've seen
00:05:21even hutis actually you know threaten that they would
00:05:25also impose some kind of a transit fees and close the babal, so how do you
00:05:29go addressing that? with regards to Israel, I think also it is very important to
00:05:33know that the most recent statement of Benjamin Neta in Yahoo is something which
00:05:37is very concerning because he's gone to the extent of saying that
00:05:40regardless the fact that you "president Trump is his great friend in the
00:05:44white house, he still would work to protect the Israeli interest with or
00:05:48without a deal, so then again we are back the square one. my simple and
00:05:52primary concern here would be that even if two countries that Oman and
00:05:56Iran are working to you resolve the operational control of
00:06:00state of hormones, which at some point was also in its own
00:06:03interpretation contested by the United States of America, following which
00:06:07there was a fallout, there was a cease fire and so many other violations, would this
00:06:11be enough and if it..." is being done, what are the terms and conditions on which is
00:06:15it is being done and how do we actually ensure that the issue doesn't get
00:06:19reignited and then again of course if you are going to
00:06:22you know restore the 14 point original Islamabad memorandum they
00:06:26still issues like that the nuclear which you earlier pointed out which have to
00:06:30be resolved we have to see whether Iran actually does something about uranium
00:06:33enrichment or not which I feel perhaps it might not because it has more
00:06:37strategic leverage now as opposed to what it did when the war actually started and then
00:06:41whether it would bow down to nuclear inspections and safegards or not,
00:06:45which again is something that Iran has resisted. Lastly, I think one thing which is
00:06:49extremely extremely important which I would want to quickly touch upon is the fact that overall
00:06:53mining we also seen just yesterday that you people like
00:06:57Abdul Said winning the democratic seat and for you being a
00:07:01contestant against a primary person republican in the upcoming m terms
00:07:05and then people right Rashid Talib being
00:07:08you know winning I think they also show a very important discourse in the American
00:07:11politics that to way ahead the midterms, because
00:07:14this clearly shows that American people, they are looking for change and
00:07:18they want that change and that change also include includes
00:07:22opposing wars like that of US and Iran, so I think this is also
00:07:25something that we need to discuss with regards to the changing development
00:07:29right, ladies and gentlemen, this is about the changing developing
00:07:32situations every single day, the most conflicted geopolitical
00:07:36tension of this era, of course US and Iran, latest developments
00:07:40happening every day for now, now now we are seeing uh some diplomatic efforts
00:07:44happening behind closed doors, but at the same time there's a lot of
00:07:48you know posturing masculine rhetoric coming from both sides.
00:07:51ground reality seems very different because the stock ammunitions are
00:07:55reducing from the American side as well as the economy of Iran is
00:07:59really going southward so there is need for vision and
00:08:02leadership and of course peace that we are all hoping
00:08:14foreign soil, this is nothing new, this has been in international
00:08:17debates since quite a few years now, the time the matter gain
00:08:21global attention when US and Canadian site publicly
00:08:25linked Indian officials to plot targeting seek
00:08:29separatis, this time
00:08:30it is about monindar Singh, the UN rights experts have urged
00:08:34Canada to take all possible measures in order to save his life, we've been joined by
00:08:38Sardar Ramesh Singh Arora, provincial minister
00:08:53question, when it comes to Indian state sponsored
00:08:56activities outside its borders or you know
00:09:00soil, what is your take on the latest development of Mr.
00:09:04Manindar Singh whose life seems to be in
00:09:11there are series of... happened by the
00:09:13Indian agencies, Indian
00:09:16diplomats, Indian security
00:09:19agencies, so what happened, what happened
00:09:22in in Pakistan, one happened
00:09:25in Canada, and the series of events happened
00:09:29in in the Europe, Canada,
00:09:32UK as well as some news heard that they
00:09:36targeting one of prominent sick leader in the United
00:09:48indian present government modi sarkar
00:09:52is always pursuing only one line
00:09:55agenda and that one line agenda is
00:09:58hindutva and modi is following
00:10:01RSS Banjragdal and shifsana's policy which policy is
00:10:05just to promote Hindutwa and nowadays if you look at
00:10:09India's policy and whatever has happened with the
00:10:12minorities, either they are sick, they are muslim, they are
00:10:16dar, they are christian, everyone is crying,
00:10:20what happened in 1984 with the six, there was a great six
00:10:23genocide. what happened with the Kashmiri Muslims,
00:10:27what happened with the dalits and look at the Christianity, what
00:10:31happened with them, so India who always
00:10:35blame Pakistan, always say that in Pakistan
00:10:39there are no minority rights in Pakistan, there are no human rights,
00:10:43but in actual when we look at whatever has been done
00:10:46by the India, it shows that either it's
00:10:50attack on akal tak sab, either it there
00:10:53is attack and genocide of Muslims, either attack
00:10:57on Dalit, either attack on Christian, it is
00:11:01always by the state, so it means all these
00:11:04incident happened and states supported them,
00:11:08and when it comes to Pakistan, yes, some incident
00:11:11happens, but there is no involvement of state, there are some
00:11:15individuals incidents, whatsoever
00:11:19has done, but there is resolve for the government side that the
00:11:23government would support always the... minorities in
00:11:25Pakistan, so I totally the view
00:11:29that whatever is happening, it is coming from the Indian
00:11:33state, and now it is the duty of and it is the role
00:11:36the international human rights organization,
00:11:40human right defenders and they should come forward and they should play their
00:11:44role and ask the Indian government why the
00:11:48minorities are not protected, why the minorities
00:11:52are not safe in India and why they
00:11:54are all
00:11:55they always cry, why they always say that we there is
00:11:59a sikh genocide, there's a muslim genocide, it means
00:12:02India policy is not supporting the India, the
00:12:06minorities, see in 2019 Pakistan
00:12:10gave gift to the Sikh nation in the form
00:12:14of Kartarpur corridor, now what exactly the Kartarpur corridor
00:12:18is, kartarpur corridor is a place where the
00:12:21Indian dies Indian sich and as well as the...
00:12:25diaspora who come to India, they want to come to
00:12:29kartarpur, but from Indian side they never allowed. In
00:12:322019 government of Pakistan decided to open the Kartarpur
00:12:36corridor and give a chance to the Indian yatris as well
00:12:40as the sick diaspora to come to Pakistan, and there was a
00:12:43science document with between India and Pakistan that
00:12:475000 devotees can come to Pakistan every
00:12:50day, but look at the number, what exactly is, what
00:12:54exactly? India is doing, they don't
00:12:57allow their own citizens to come to
00:13:01to come to the Kartarpur during last four to five
00:13:04years when the Kartarpur corridor was opened, the maximum
00:13:08number coming from India to
00:13:12Pakistan is not more than 400, so it means there is
00:13:16science document between Pakistan, India that
00:13:195000 can come, but India don't allow their
00:13:22own citizens to come to. Pakistan more than
00:13:25400, so when you must be
00:13:29remembering because you are from the media and you always cover all of
00:13:32those happening, whatever is happening, so
00:13:36in on 7th May
00:13:392025 when the India
00:13:42attacked on Pakistan and certainly then Pakistan responded
00:13:46and world knows how the how Pakistan responded and
00:13:49what exactly Pakistan air force and Pakistan armed forces did with
00:13:52India, so on seventh. of by
00:13:552025 India closed the Kartarpur
00:13:58corridor, now it's more than one and a half, one and a half
00:14:02year, the Kartarpur corridor is closed from the Indian
00:14:06side, they don't allow Indian yatris to come to
00:14:09Pakistan, how come India claim that there is a freedom of
00:14:30let me bring your attention to the the state
00:14:34sponsored terrorism, state sponsored activities that are conducted by India, just
00:14:37not the Canadian and US, if you remember
00:14:40there was a youth from Bangladesh, Usman Hadi, and there were reports that
00:14:44were signal signaling again towards the Indian site, so my question
00:14:48is where does this actually place India on the global standings when it
00:14:52comes to the diplomatic credibility, what credibility?
00:14:56has it left with India? see, today I had
00:15:00a meeting with one of your parliament member, he is a visit to
00:15:04Pakistan nowadays, this is what I discussed with him. see,
00:15:07Pakistan has learned a lot during last two decades and
00:15:11now this human rights situation, particularly the minority rights in
00:15:15Pakistan, there's slight, there's an improvement and gradual
00:15:18improvement and we are making sure that the minorities living in Pakistan, they
00:15:22are being taken care the, their rights are protected. they do have freedom of
00:15:26religion, they do have, they do can do their rituals in in
00:15:29their whatever their faith, whatever the religion is according to their own faith and
00:15:33religion, but unfortunately if we look at the standing of India
00:15:37"it is going down with every passing day, because when the
00:15:41president government of Modi Sarkar, he always talks about
00:15:45the Hinditvata, Hinditwa, he always talks about
00:15:49that minorities are being considered as third
00:15:53class citizen, so certainly in the world is watching them, and
00:15:56this is there is why we always appeal to
00:16:00the not only the United Nation to all the human rights defenders, look what
00:16:04exactly India is doing like there" target
00:16:08killing the six worldwide,
00:16:10it is, it is in front of everyone, not me, not you, not the Pakistani media, this is coming
00:16:14from the Canadian media, this is coming from the prime minister of Canada who
00:16:18stood in the parliament and clearly blamed India that
00:16:22India has targeted one of his citizen in Canada and the assassinated
00:16:25and
00:16:26so what does it mean in the world is watching as certainly one
00:16:30such sort of incidents are happing the standing of global standing of
00:16:33India, I, not me, the world is...
00:16:37going down and if the the secular people who who who
00:16:41believe on the secularism in India, they don't come forward, don't play the
00:16:45role, certainly the time would come when India would be blamed and India would be
00:16:49known one the terrorist country and one the country where the
00:16:53minorities are not protected, not safe. Mr. Aurora,
00:16:56one the core principles when it comes to international relations is respecting the
00:17:00sovereignty the other country, you
00:17:02can you cannot just
00:17:03you know operate or do any kind of operation on the host country without it.
00:17:07consent so it is of course viewed as huge breach
00:17:11of international norms, how would you look at it from an Indian from from a
00:17:15Pakistani perspective or world point of view the way India is
00:17:19acting? it is, it is, it is something they always
00:17:23what what they do, they always breach those contracts, so either
00:17:26it's it's a contract signed between India and Pakistan, indus water treaty,
00:17:30how the deal, there is always he threatening Pakistan that we will
00:17:34not accept this treaty and we will discard it, so... do not respect any
00:17:38international law and what happened on 7th May when they
00:17:42blame Pakistan and they said that whatever has happened
00:17:45in in the palgam they blamed Pakistan but I appreciate my prime
00:17:49minister I appreciate my field marshall I appreciate my defense
00:17:53minister as well as the for minister the said okay go for the independent
00:17:57investigation if you go for the independent investigation we will join
00:18:01you you give us a proof that this is something which is done by the Pakistan so we
00:18:05will admit it if you come with the independent judicial. your independent
00:18:08inquiry, but they were just blaming the Pakistan and
00:18:11after that they attacked Pakistan, but this is the park force, the park armed
00:18:15forces and the entire nation
00:18:19was supporting the park armed force, park army, the air
00:18:23force as well as the navy and we responded well and then you
00:18:27know what happened, they were crying and crying reaching
00:18:31Washington DC and appealing to requesting
00:18:34to Mr. President of America. that please save guard us from
00:18:38Pakistan, so this is how the the India, India is
00:18:42playing this dirty game, attacking not only Pakistan
00:18:46attacking his neighbor countries to see what exactly, what
00:18:50exactly is happening with India, this
00:18:51is just because their this Hindit approach, there
00:18:54is look at the relationship with Bangladesh, look at their
00:18:58relationship with China, when it comes to states responsibility or to
00:19:02protect the national security or it obligation to follow or
00:19:06respect international. "I think
00:19:09every nation should follow the international law when it comes to human
00:19:13dignity or protection of the people, so Pakistan
00:19:17strongly follows it, and that's why if you look
00:19:21at the standing of Pakistan, it's increasing day by day and
00:19:24internationally, the repute of Pakistan, the standard of Pakistan, and when
00:19:28it comes to the president of America, they always
00:19:32appreciate the Pakistan, the prime minister of Pakistan, the field
00:19:35marshall and I strongly..." when you when
00:19:39you respect the in human dignity, when you respect the
00:19:43security and when you respect the territorial, you
00:19:47can say respect for other countries, so certainly
00:19:51your studying will go better and now India is day
00:19:55by day internationally there is a decline in their
00:19:59respect. Mr. Ara, how has these developments
00:20:03impacted the sik diaspora in maybe US or Canada or
00:20:06anywhere? any other region across the
00:20:09world, see,
00:20:13you must witnessed what happened on 7th May
00:20:172026, all of those sick
00:20:20diaspora who originally belong to India,
00:20:24they didn't support India at that time, they supported Pakistan
00:20:28because they do, Pakistan always talk about
00:20:32peace, Pakistan always talk about the
00:20:35hemodites, always Pakistan always... talk about the freedom of
00:20:38religion, pakistan always talk about about that the
00:20:42territorial integrity should be considered, that's why in
00:20:46May 2026 the six diaspora sup
00:20:50voted the narrative of Pakistan, which was the narrative of
00:20:53peace, so let tell you, unfortunately the
00:20:57Indian media, the goti media and particularly the Indian establishment, the
00:21:01Indian agency, they are playing very dirty game against Pakistan, they
00:21:05have they have hired pr firms, they have hired
00:21:08influencers, they have hired media houses who
00:21:11always spread misinformation who
00:21:14always propagate a negative agenda Pakistan because they do have their
00:21:18westted interest against. Pakistan and they always try to
00:21:22pollute the minds the sick diaspora living either in the west or the far
00:21:26east or in the central asia and
00:21:29recently I was in the United States, I was in Malaysia,
00:21:33Indonesia and Australia so I visited all
00:21:36of those places and met with my sick community, sick diaspora, I requested
00:21:40them and I told them, see at this time the chief
00:21:44minister of punjab, she is committed, she is passionate and she
00:21:47always says that minorities. are my pride and she is
00:21:51inviting the sick diaspora to come to Pakistan and be
00:21:55attached with your heritage because Pakistan is the first homeland for
00:21:59the sikh because the or the originality the
00:22:03origin the Sikh faith is from Pakistan the first Sikh master the first
00:22:06Sikh Guru Guru Nanak Dev ji his birth place is in Pakistan
00:22:10his resting place is in Kartarpur so we invite all six
00:22:14diaspora to come to Pakistan but unfortunately what
00:22:17exactly the Indian embassies. in different parts
00:22:21the world, wherever they are, they always propagate negative
00:22:25agenda Pakistan, they always spread this information, don't go to
00:22:29Pakistan, so they always stop them. Let tell you the real case
00:22:32example, when I was in one the country of
00:22:36Europe, before I arrive a gurdwara, the Indian
00:22:40embassy stopped the sikh community, there
00:22:44in that country, they don't allow Mr. Arora to come and speak in your
00:22:48Gurdwara because he is coming all the way. from Pakistan and when he come to
00:22:52coming to your Guudwara and talking high about Pakistan, so whatever we have done
00:22:56so far to to to to to like create a
00:23:00bad name for Pakistan, it will be counted by
00:23:23very quick closing comments from both of you, as far as the
00:23:26situation with the westerners is concerned, we saw Justin Trudo
00:23:30standing on the floor the house giving very clear statement in
00:23:34categorical terms that there was a connection with those agents who
00:23:38found in that assassination of Hardeep Singh Nija
00:23:42with the Indian government and he took a stand, we saw the
00:23:46relationship bilaterally between Canada and India.
00:23:50saw it considerably actually nose dived at that particular point, there was a drastic
00:23:53shift, we also saw the endorsement of that particular stance taken by Justin Trudo
00:23:57at that time by five eyes, but later on there was a
00:24:01change the leadership in Canada, so we
00:24:04saw Mark Karne, the new prime the incoming prime minister of Canada making
00:24:08a visit to India, and this particular case of
00:24:12Maninder Singh that you discussing right now, the threats to his life
00:24:16happened on the eve of that particular visit marka. he was making
00:24:20towards India, so looking at that particular time when Justin
00:24:24Truude was at the helm of affairs, it was clear a
00:24:27categorical stance, but I think there was some sort
00:24:31of, I mean the the entire issue was
00:24:35downplayed considerably when there was a change of leadership, having said that one last
00:24:38point when we talk about the United States of America, there was an assassination
00:24:42attempt on that particular front also, we have also seen at
00:24:46the same time there is deterioration the relationship by literally between
00:24:50the US and Canada also under Mark, so until unless
00:24:54there isn't any collective approach by these western
00:24:58countries towards India, then India is not going to
00:25:02abide by any sort of provisions or the norms the international law
00:25:05or whatever, that is one last point, because president Donald
00:25:09Trump also doesn't seem to be serious on that particular front, having that proof that
00:25:13there was an assassination attempt made on the US soil, he
00:25:17just deteriorated his bilateral relations. ship with India
00:25:21not on the basis of this human right issue or this violation of
00:25:24sovereignty, the violation of international law, but on the basis
00:25:28the trade, I think the priorities for the
00:25:37important, is the fact that when we talk about this, I think mahin a very
00:25:41important international law angle is often missed, we have
00:25:45to see that the ICJ has made not one rather various judgments, I remember the
00:25:49case of Nekargua. back in the 1980s and then of course DRC versus
00:25:53Congo where it was very clearly said that no state can either
00:25:56support or inside any kind of violence by promoting
00:26:00terrorism by supporting proxy groups by
00:26:02the way would also by virtue of that include countries like Pakistan because when we
00:26:06are talking about transnational repression it would just not be countries like Canada in
00:26:10US but a
00:26:11also different from
00:26:12you know supporting terrorism here in Pakistan to
00:26:14so the only problem here is practically speaking that
00:26:18unfortunately India cannot be taken to the ICJ because
00:26:21legally India the way India is ratified you know various treaties
00:26:25it has actually kept a legal exemption which actually shows the structural
00:26:29limitations of
00:26:31you know international courts like I CJ as well and this is despite the fact that
00:26:34UN, India is a founding member the UN, it has ratified
00:26:38not one other various country treaties which actually stop it from committing
00:26:42such transnational crimes that to particularly religiously
00:26:46motivated and motivated towards religious minority, so as of course an
00:26:50advocate of international law, I think here we definitely do need some
00:26:53serious kind of changes in our UN of course top tier
00:26:57systems and then of course perhaps do away with the voting system with
00:27:01Pakistan's. perminent representative has also rightly so pointed
00:27:05towards that
00:27:06you know powerful nations get away with so many atrocities just because
00:27:10the p5 they do not let important united nation resolutions
00:27:14get passed against them so I think and overall of international law and of
00:27:18course enforcebility the system is very important to hold India accountable
00:27:27has actually isolated in global front as well but it is high
00:27:31time
00:27:31that the global community national community should really step in and step in
00:27:35and hold
00:27:39TV.