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00:00:00law
00:00:03of of minister as well as in information, they they you
00:00:07explained that the total mission of
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00:00:13in and as well as governor rule is has
00:00:16of decision has been taken
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00:00:21of by exercising a constitutional option
00:00:24available under the 1973 constitution and
00:00:28further as
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00:00:32the the move has been taken under
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00:00:37of article two 32 and 234
00:00:41of of the constitution, they explained that this move has come in the wake
00:00:45of deteriorating law and
00:00:47of order situation in province and they also
00:00:51quoted various incidents in which law and forcement
00:00:54agencies, pakistan army armed forces they have
00:00:58sacrificed their lives in fight against terror in the province
00:01:01and they emphasize that the proventional government
00:01:05of fabric of Kunka they were
00:01:09of either of complacent or they were reluctant to
00:01:12take mers against
00:01:15these terrorist
00:01:18activities in which people were losing
00:01:21of of their lives and they also stated that federal government has
00:01:25been negotiating with
00:01:26in the provincial government and was ready to provide all available.
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00:01:32of avoid this situation and work with the proventional
00:01:35of government to eradicate this manas of terrorism as we know
00:01:40of that of sabtunsa
00:01:40of province is strategically located and shares a long border with
00:01:44restive afghanistan where we know from where
00:01:47a cross border
00:01:50of terrorism has been happening in in Pakistan and there
00:01:53are clear evidence that even the government
00:01:57of table they are also reluctant. to take
00:02:00action contrary to their commitments to
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00:02:04of international community, so here main
00:02:10of of point on which this press conference focus was khibar law and order and
00:02:14growing terrorism. of course security was the main reason
00:02:18on which this these
00:02:20of mayor were taken and proclamation of
00:02:23emergency took
00:02:25of place. also they said that the governance
00:02:28in was also in shambles especially
00:02:32of if you talk about the the points which were raised
00:02:36by information
00:02:38minister he said that
00:02:42government inf they
00:02:45a were beast bothered about the common
00:02:47of people and he also said that
00:02:49the people was suffering not only
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00:02:54in to terrorism but due to bad governance
00:02:57in all so law minister
00:03:01shad light on
00:03:06of of constitutional provisions and how constitution provides the federal government to take such
00:03:10of meers which has been taken in and we said
00:03:14that emergency has been declared
00:03:16in also he
00:03:20clarified
00:03:21to a question by
00:03:22a reporter that there will not be
00:03:25any you
00:03:28of know of in sab of Khah
00:03:32of he said that the additional chief secretary has been appointed for
00:03:37of in 12 most affected districts
00:03:39of where there were large number of
00:03:42terrorism incidents in the past and he said
00:03:46of that to make governance better and bring
00:03:50restore law and order in those 12 very
00:03:54effective affected districts
00:03:56therefore additional chief. has been
00:04:00appointed, likewise law minister
00:04:04interior minister mokwi stated that he has been
00:04:08in constant contact with the
00:04:11of opposition leader till last
00:04:13of night and he has been pressing for reaching a
00:04:17consensus and avoid today's boob, but he
00:04:21said that the government
00:04:23leadership opposition leader the they were
00:04:27adamant and they they did not reach the consensus and even they did
00:04:31of not of respond of
00:04:33of positively and he said that in these circumstances the federal
00:04:37government had take this decision and for
00:04:41which constitutional clearly
00:04:43a provides the ground and he also mentioned that
00:04:47article 232 and article 234
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00:04:50of constitution they provide the
00:04:53space to the federal government
00:04:55to take action under the
00:04:57a law to save uh their lives and their
00:05:01property, especially he said that the government
00:05:04even offered government that they will
00:05:08provide all available resources and he said that particularly
00:05:12about 12 most affected district government
00:05:16had offered that pakistan army and armed forces
00:05:20will pull out from stage wise
00:05:24from these districts and after providing
00:05:27training and resources to the local
00:05:30police, but government did not
00:05:34reach a consensus and they did
00:05:37not took heat and
00:05:41this is how the situation. and further version and also
00:05:44he quoted that many recent incidents we have seen
00:05:48there is a spike about 200% spike in
00:05:52terrorism related incidents intha
00:05:56province where people have lost their lives also
00:06:00various personnel of security forces they
00:06:04have been mad and injured
00:06:07in these incidents right thank you
00:06:11so much musharf who is senior correspondent Pakistan TV for the details
00:06:15and comments that you have given us about the situation,
00:06:18there was a press briefing that was held by the senior federal ministers as they
00:06:22said that the prime minister, the president of Pakistan
00:06:26along with the prime minister they have imposed emergency in the khiib pakhtunkhah
00:06:30province
00:06:35now we are telling you that the president Asidari on advice of prime minister Shihbar
00:06:39sharif has impeled emergency in pathtunkwa under articles
00:06:42232 and 234 the constitution of Pakistan,
00:06:46given the gravity the situation, the president signed the summary sent to him
00:06:50by Prime Minister Shahban Sharif on the recommendation the cabinet for
00:06:54exercising his constitutional authority and imporsing emergency
00:06:58in Paktonkha under articles 232 and
00:07:01234 the constitution of Pakistan. Earlier the
00:07:05federal cabinet was briefed on the law and order situation on the provincial government's
00:07:09deliberate disengagement from the fight against terrorism. and the
00:07:13deteriorating state of affairs regarding terrorism in
00:07:16khaibhtunkha province. the cabinet conducted detailed review
00:07:20the situation, taking into account the vsening law and order conditions in
00:07:24paktunkha.
00:07:30interior minister men says month long efforts and talks with PTI
00:07:33field to resolve outstanding issues as law in order deteriorated in
00:07:3712 districts ofwa province. he made these remarks
00:07:41while addressing a joint press briefing alongside law minister az
00:07:45and information minister Atar that we were sharing
00:07:49live visuals
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00:07:56governorkha fasulem kundi has said that people the province
00:08:00welcome the presidential proclamation and desire peace, stability,
00:08:04progress and prosperity in the province. a message, the governor
00:08:08said the people oftunkwa welcome the presidential
00:08:11proclamation, and desire peace, stability, progress and
00:08:14prosperity in the province. He said the people of KPK will
00:08:18stand by their security agencies and fight against terrorists
00:08:22till the end and want brotherly relations and mutual cooperation
00:08:26with other provinces. Fasal Karim kundi said that people of
00:08:29KP aim to foster development and prosperity in the province through
00:08:33shared experiences and joint efforts and the public wishes to
00:08:37see the promotion of democratic values and the fruits of
00:08:41development reaching. the common citizen, he said the people oftunkwa
00:08:45are peace loving and do not support terrorism or violent acts
00:08:49any way. the governor oftunkha said strict legal action
00:08:53will be taken against those who disrupt law in order or take the law into
00:08:57their own
00:08:57hands.
00:09:02the federal cabinet expressed deep concern over the security situation
00:09:06in kp and last efforts were made through
00:09:10Maulana Fazl Rahman before any final decision. regarding situation in the
00:09:13province. addressing the cabinet meeting, prime ministerif says
00:09:17the government should stand united with the federal government to
00:09:21root out terrorism in the province for improving the security situation
00:09:25there. the prime minister said the federal cabinet will decide today regarding any
00:09:28final decision how on how to improve the security situation in the
00:09:32province as it is now or never
00:09:35situation. he said 800 billion rupees has been
00:09:39provided to strengthen its counter terrorism department.
00:09:43He said, countering terrorism is a shared responsibility the federal
00:09:47and provincial
00:09:48governments.
00:10:22Assalamualaikum and welcome to perspective. Regional. tensions are
00:10:25escalating, putting critical infrastructure, maritime security
00:10:29and regional stability at risk. howthi attacks on Saudi Arabia have raised
00:10:33fresh security concerns, while the strategic mandab straight
00:10:37and the strate of hurmus remain central to wider regional tensions with the
00:10:41US mid-term elections approaching, president Donald
00:10:44Trump is also facing growing political pressure as the Iran
00:10:48conflict disrupts global energy markets and raises
00:10:52questions about the costs and consec. of his
00:10:55policies, how could the evolving security situation
00:10:59affect his party's electoral prospects and shape
00:11:03Washington's next moves. Pakistan has strongly condemned
00:11:06the attacks in Saudi Arabia and reaffirmed its commitment to Saudi
00:11:10sovereinity and security under the Makka joint defense
00:11:14agreement with Saudi Arabia and Turkey. As
00:11:17Islamabad continues to call for peace and
00:11:20deescalation, what is the shifting security
00:11:24landscape? mean for the region. In our second
00:11:27segment, we examine Trump's administ the Donald Trump
00:11:31administration's expanding immigration crackdown, including the
00:11:35suspension of green card processing for major technological companies
00:11:39and investigations into leading US
00:11:42universities. As Washington tightens scrutiny the
00:11:46skilled foreign workers and international research
00:11:49questions are mounting over the future of global
00:11:53talent, mobility and America's
00:11:55competitive competitiveness
00:11:59in the technology sector. All
00:12:33when we look at Babel Mandap, for example, the fact that it's become
00:12:37a critical point in this regional, what
00:12:41strategic objectives are the howt is sort of
00:12:45pursuing by threatening maritime traffic
00:12:48and of course what it means for this vital
00:12:52international shipping route, corridor and and what are the
00:12:56implications in your opinion for regional
00:12:58security and also what it means as far as
00:13:02global security at this
00:13:04time
00:13:11is want to exert pressure on the red sea one a maritime
00:13:15trade to get this economic and political
00:13:18leverage, they understand very well that the world will only pay attention
00:13:22to them if they make noise outside the border of... Yemen has been dubbed for
00:13:26the longest time for the past 12 years the conflict as the forgotten
00:13:29war and to get some attention to get some recognition
00:13:33and to get that stick
00:13:37of they needed to attack all these ships in the red sea making that economic
00:13:41impact on global trade but also threatening regional
00:13:44countries as well because they ship lot of oil through that
00:13:47straight so it's critical for their countries for the
00:13:51stability their countries and this is one the reasons why they also... in the
00:13:55same way are threatening Saudi Arabia the past few
00:13:59weeks by attacking infrastructure within Riyadh within
00:14:03other parts of Saudi Arabia attacking aramco attacking I remember the
00:14:07electricity grid as well and they'll continue to do that because that's
00:14:10how they raised the cost the conflict they learned that from the Iranians
00:14:14and that's how they kind of
00:14:18create this calculus where they can extract concessions not just from
00:14:22Saudi but also from regional and international state.
00:14:33before we go to him, in terms of in terms the huti's
00:14:36actions, Hisham, when we look at
00:14:40you know Yemen's internal conflict and and the political
00:14:43landscape so to speak, how have years of
00:14:47political you know fragmentation, struggle for
00:14:50power, failure to reach a durable settlement enabled the house.
00:14:55is to consolidate their authority and expand their
00:14:58regional ambition, because we know that
00:15:02internally also the situation and the fact that they've been able
00:15:06to do this, how how do you look at that in terms of what's happening
00:15:09now and the internal situation? that's actually an
00:15:13excellent question, this is
00:15:14what i've been saying for the for the past 10 years is that the
00:15:18houties owe their rise to the
00:15:21Iranian support, but also to the fragmentation and the division.
00:15:37the failure the state since since 2010, since
00:15:41the uprisings that accompanied the Arab Spring,
00:15:45and they managed to hijack the state, and by doing so
00:15:49they entrenched themselves a position of power, and
00:15:53throughout the past 10 years the conflict since 2015, they
00:15:57managed to expand across Yemen, moving all
00:16:01the
00:16:01way to the west coast, and that's what you're hearing a lot of fighting now,
00:16:04for instance in Babel Mandab, in the Red Sea, because they want additional.
00:16:08but they owe that as well because the internal
00:16:11fragmentation and I've always said if you want to
00:16:15defeat the hutis, you need to unify the yemini factions led
00:16:19by the yemini government because only them can dislodge the
00:16:23hutis from places like the mar, the central part of
00:16:27Yemen, but also the capital sana, there needs to be a concerted effort
00:16:30backed by the regional international community, and luckily for the time being you have the
00:16:34saudis back in the Yemini government supporting them. but ultimately
00:16:38this is a Yemeni Yemeni fight, this is not, and I remember
00:16:42lot of people trying to pitch it as a Saudi versus Hothies fight, it's
00:16:46not, it never was, it was the Yemenis that wanted to take
00:16:50back the country from the Hhootis, but they also needed support from regional partners
00:16:54and our closest neighbor traditionally for the past 100 years have been Saudi Arabia and
00:16:58that's one the reasons why it was the Saudis that let the
00:17:01coalition that helped attempting to
00:17:04restore the state in 2015. but but
00:17:08where does the house actually derive
00:17:12authority within Yemen today when you look at
00:17:15you know the fact that the main sources their political,
00:17:18financial, military power and and of course
00:17:22how how do they use that to control territory in
00:17:26terms of trying to understand and also the fact that they
00:17:30they are able to somehow sustain their position
00:17:32right? yep, well one one the important things that
00:17:36lot of people need to understand that the hutis did not spring into the scene just in the past
00:17:4015 years, the hutis were there for the past thousand years, we
00:17:44had the imat a monarchy in Yemen for the better part
00:17:48the past 100 years, which was toppled in the
00:17:511960s. these are remonants of that
00:17:54regime that stayed in yemen in the northern part the
00:17:58country, and they managed to build their power over
00:18:02the past 25 years, beginning into the 2000s and in
00:18:062004, they launched an offensive in the north part the
00:18:10country which led to six consecutive wars between 2004 and
00:18:132009, so the hutis actually existed there for hundreds of
00:18:17years, but they managed capitalizing on the
00:18:21instability in 2010, 2011 to expand
00:18:24their influence and exploiting the in fighting between the
00:18:28various factions, tribal and government and military between the
00:18:32period of 2011 and 2015, to jump on the scene, hijack the
00:18:36state, take over the capital, take over other parts of Vietman,
00:18:40one, two, they also owe their rise because the
00:18:43support that they've gotten extensive support that they've gotten from Iran, they
00:18:47they got in financial support, they've gotten ballistic missiles, they've gotten cruise
00:18:51missiles, they've gotten drones, they've gotten lot of training, not just from
00:18:55Iran, they've got a lot of training from Hizbullah as well, and there's a lot, the
00:18:59actually IRGC officers on the ground, on the
00:19:03battlefield as commanders directing the
00:19:06war and... multiple frontlines in Yemen and that includes
00:19:10Hisbollah and IRGC, so they're getting lot of
00:19:13support, and in terms
00:19:16of question, you know, of course they've managed to have that
00:19:20kind of support that then allows them to exert this kind
00:19:24of external influence or external, far
00:19:28beyond the territory, how dangerous is it when
00:19:32when this kind of a grouping can happen and and
00:19:36then and then put it. initially have consequences
00:19:40outside a country's territory when we look at you in the light of
00:19:44this particular instance when we see the
00:19:46hautis extremely extremely concerning you have
00:19:50to remember the past couple years sank or attacked
00:19:54close to 100 ships and see you're not talking about the conflict that
00:19:58is not contained within the borders of yemen you're talking about the conflict had spill over
00:20:02effect remember during the gaza crisis is wanted to
00:20:06jump into the fray try to pitch themselves as the vanguard the muslim the
00:20:10arab nation by attacking also Israel
00:20:13and beyond that they started attacking ships tried to extract
00:20:17tols from ships passing through the red sea, they wanted to be seen as
00:20:20regional player that would have a say an international politics, so if
00:20:24anything does not go their way - respective if it
00:20:28is concerning Yemen or not, they want to exert that
00:20:31political pressure to get this not recognition
00:20:35as regional player and this is one of... reasons why they attacked multiple
00:20:39ships from different countries, not just saudis now lately, but in the past they've attacked British
00:20:43ships, they've attacked Dutch ships, they've attacked American ships
00:20:46and all sorts of ships because they want that recognition. "and
00:20:50it's extremely difficult and extremely dangerous because at the end the day you're
00:20:54dealing with a militia, so if you tolerate
00:20:58that, you're only postponing yet another bout of conflict
00:21:02where the militia is going to blackmail international community seeking additional
00:21:06concessions, and this is why I've always been talking to international partners and regional partners is
00:21:09that you need to address the root the conflict,
00:21:12you need to decisively deal with the hoothies, you cannot keep passing the
00:21:15buck and postponing the issue through temporary ceasefires."
00:21:20or non-sustainable agreements that will allow the hoothies to stay
00:21:24in control, especially when they have control over the means the states and
00:21:28taxation and oil revenues. so in terms the
00:21:31consequences of of this kind of
00:21:35you know a group, if one can call it that,
00:21:39and and you know of course the kind of
00:21:41exercising, of course influence
00:21:44outside the territory, what kind of reaction do you overall
00:21:48you know expect after what we've? also and for Yemen also
00:21:52in particular, what do you expect in the future?
00:21:56unfortunately based on the track record the past
00:22:00three years, there has been some reactions, you've seen the Americans attack
00:22:03the hutis, you've seen the Europeans create that speed's
00:22:07naval force to protect the ships in the red sea, but there they
00:22:11have always been half hearted measures, they never
00:22:15actually delt a blow to the hoothies, it was always a
00:22:18protective force.
00:22:20and
00:22:21was always, it's just a bare minimum, they did not
00:22:25deal with dislodging
00:22:26the the hoothies hoothies, they only tried to protect some the ships in the red
00:22:30sea while leaving the infrastructure in place, while
00:22:33leaving thereat in place, which only
00:22:36means that they're postponing the
00:22:39problem, and come few months
00:22:43the will come back, raise the bar, demand additional
00:22:46concessions, and this is devastating, and this is what happened with.
00:22:49situation,
00:22:57hoping that there is going to be calmer heads that will
00:23:00prevail amongst the huti movement, but we warn back at the time is
00:23:04that the hutis are only binding their time to regroup,
00:23:08restock, they will come back and they will ask for additional
00:23:11concessions and that's basically what they did right
00:23:13now,
00:23:17when we look at in terms of you know ' regional states in
00:23:21their response to the houthi attacks, the threats also
00:23:25against babal mandap, maritime commerce, what combination of
00:23:28maritime security, deterrance, regional
00:23:31cooperation, political engagement you think could make
00:23:35difference at this point, you're also looking at the Saudi Arabia
00:23:39situation to to sort of deescalate
00:23:42for things to at least, sort
00:23:46of, what can one say, go back to a state of...
00:23:50normalcy, let's say,
00:23:52well, okay, you need to
00:23:56begin with the cutting or choking the air
00:24:00out the huti means you need to economically kind of basically
00:24:04isolate them, one, two, you cannot just protect the red
00:24:07sea without dislogging the hoothies from multiple areas,
00:24:11three, this is the award that cannot be one just by aerial campaign,
00:24:15we've been there done that since 2015 and it did not dislodge the huties, what you
00:24:19need is ground. forces to take over the houti controlled
00:24:23areas, you need to limit the power. I've heard lot of arguments
00:24:27the past two days, people saying like, if the America government forces managed to secure the
00:24:31west coast, then it's the end to the threat. That is a
00:24:34completely false. managed to attack the
00:24:38ships over the past two years when they did not control
00:24:42them. well beyond that within from the internal
00:24:46parts of yemen they attack the ships. so you don't need just to secure babelman.
00:24:50them you need to dis from the hotland and from places like the
00:24:53capital for as long as people continue to
00:24:57treat the hoothis as a viable political party we're not getting anywhere hootis
00:25:01are a militia they think in mentality of a militia they're
00:25:05maximalist they also always come back and raise the bar
00:25:09if you don't limit their military power if you don't
00:25:13have that breaking point or you isolate them we're not going to get
00:25:16anywhere how do you in
00:25:20terms the the nexus when we look at Israel in particular, how
00:25:24does it factor in and and how you know the consequences
00:25:28of that nexis itself, do you think that it's been
00:25:31exposed enough, do you expect it to sort of have the the
00:25:35ramifications of that for the world, how do you look at that?
00:25:39well let's refocus that a little bit on yemen, what
00:25:43have had happened over the past three years, especially with
00:25:46the the gaza crisis, the is managed to exploit that to their advantage.
00:25:51they've seen how the world failed to act in
00:25:55defending the Palestinians and they use that
00:25:58to recruit fighters on the ground and
00:26:01lot other factions. did the same thing as well, but the hutis exploited it a very good way bause
00:26:05they have a really good PR machine and they recruited tens of
00:26:09thousands of fighters and and trying to
00:26:13position themselves as the strongest member the axis of resistance that is
00:26:17led by Iran, and in doing so they managed to also get
00:26:20recruits from across the red sea and build relationships with the
00:26:24shabab in Somalia, and they did so by
00:26:28also recruiting people from Syria, from Lebanon and in Iraq as
00:26:31well,
00:26:32and the... also on the opened offices even there, so they built this
00:26:35regional network a premise of dealing with
00:26:39Israel, but while having at heart
00:26:43their own objectives, their own max maximalist objectives and
00:26:47expanding their influence not just at the southern tip the peninsula, but regional
00:26:50influence, and they built this huge network
00:26:53of and also arsenal if i may that
00:26:57they could use any given moment, whether it's in regards to Israel
00:27:01or others. That's what they did over the past month when they started attacking Saudi
00:27:05Arabia, they didn't attack Israel,
00:27:07they attack Saudi Arabia, but what about you, the
00:27:11reports of the delegation, when you look at the US delegation meeting
00:27:14how these and and the effects of that, do you think how
00:27:18credible, and and you think that there is a possibility that
00:27:22something will emerge from there also, how do
00:27:25you look at that? well, the UN led peace
00:27:28process is still ongoing, yes there's been a lot of multiple impediments.
00:27:33and it's a steep hill to
00:27:36climb, especially during escalation, so
00:27:38they always try to deescalate where cooler heads would prevail and
00:27:42they will manage to bring people to the table, unfortunately every
00:27:46time they get to to that point something or the other happens and
00:27:50we're back into fighting mode between the various factions and always it's
00:27:54triggered by the his and this is where we at now for instance the un
00:27:57envoy delivered his remarks yesterday and he basically
00:28:00said we're continue on the path
00:28:04of trying to get a peace process
00:28:08started ultimately
00:28:11reconciliation, but right
00:28:13now emotions are high, right now the fighting
00:28:17is still ongoing, right now the dust has not settled, right now all the
00:28:20groups are trying to get as much territory as possible
00:28:24before they eventually move into negotiations, and this is one the questions that
00:28:28lot of people have asked me and they said, do you think
00:28:32government is going to completely abliterate thes or the is going to be able to completely abliterate
00:28:36the government and i said like that's gna be difficult because you're talking about a complete
00:28:40massacer if you want to wipe up the hoothis I don't think that's
00:28:43feasible and vice versa the hoothis
00:28:47cannot wipe out half the country eventually
00:28:51inevitably you reach an agreement but the question is
00:28:54when we get to the table who's going to have the upper hand and right now
00:28:58his have leverage and they need to dilute that leverage.
00:29:09we have with us Paul Frit who's a senior fellow institute Switzerland, executive and
00:29:13residence, Geneva Center for Security Policy joining us, it's always a pleasure having
00:29:17you, Paul. When we look at the mid-term elections,
00:29:20Iran, Hurmas and of course, the political
00:29:24cost of this war, how do you look at this, as far as the midterm
00:29:28elections are concerned,
00:29:29you know, of course the strategic constraint. if
00:29:33one can call it that as far as Donald Trump administration is
00:29:36concerned, once
00:29:38the the pre-election situation versus the post election situation, how
00:29:42would how do you look at it and and you think it will be a change
00:29:46scenario considering what we know about the position
00:29:49of of you know at this time as far as the Donald Trump
00:29:53administration is concerned? yes,
00:29:57well I think the strategic constraint on
00:30:01the president is... uh not so much the mid-terms
00:30:05themselves, the the strategic constraint is public
00:30:08opinion uh that is by and large opposed to
00:30:12this war, and we see the mid-term
00:30:16election campaigns as an expression of that, and
00:30:20we had series of senate debates this
00:30:23week, and republican candidates have
00:30:26struggled to explain their formal support for the
00:30:30war in terms their - votes against
00:30:33congressional resolutions that have sought to reign in president Trump's
00:30:37authority, and yes, I think that the
00:30:41midterms, if the polls are to be believed, are
00:30:45probably going to send major
00:30:49signal of a public rebuke the
00:30:52administration's