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00:00:01regarding governance gaps, one aspect
00:00:04in that repeatedly nationals action plans have actually
00:00:07mentioned is intelligence
00:00:10sharing among key intelligence organizations in the
00:00:14in country with the new you know changes
00:00:18in at necta, do you think that we are heading towards
00:00:22the that direction also?
00:00:26yes, as far as US is concerned, we understand there is not much
00:00:30of appetite about what is happening between Afghanistan and Pakistan,
00:00:34but we need to tell them that we are going back
00:00:37to 9/11, we are rather we have reached to that once this
00:00:419/11 happened and this will hunt
00:00:43a them, this will hunt them, that's why I always call them as a
00:00:46stakeholders, of course
00:00:49of Russians are coming in,
00:00:51you know,
00:00:55of so they for their technical needs to I address ISIS, ISKP issues, but again they are they are also responsible for
00:00:59this... unstructured state, americans are also responsible 20
00:01:03years of application, then the global application of
00:01:07bringing talibans into it, which Pakistan was also a partner, yes we have
00:01:10also been part of that, but primarily this was being led by the
00:01:14Americans and then
00:01:16of fighting those talibans and ending the war without achieving your political
00:01:19military objectives, so you you kind
00:01:23of a chaos
00:01:25of you have left in Afghanistan, so I think Pakistan has to have
00:01:28to them in to address these issues. President
00:01:32Trump many of times he has said that it was most poorly crafted
00:01:36of withdrawal. As far as Chinese are concerned, the presence in Afghanistan of
00:01:40enemical forces is
00:01:41of also targeting Chinese, all the Chinese you know, especially the
00:01:44of CPEC has been the target. So this is not only application against Pakistan, this
00:01:48is application against the economic pursuits of China as well, so they have to
00:01:52announce the capacity and they have been trying. Pakistan's foreign
00:01:55minister, Chinese foreign minister, they visited Kabul as well, they have been speaking to them.
00:02:00"they have been trying hard because
00:02:01of their own interest and every country work for their own
00:02:05interest, yes there can be a collaboration and this synergy has to be brought by
00:02:09the international forces in Pakistan to address this issue. As far
00:02:12as intelligence is concerned, yes of course that is the
00:02:16most
00:02:17in important
00:02:19you know organization which was meant to address these issues and with the new
00:02:22appointments may be and some changes inside Necta, it is the
00:02:26responsibility to create synergy among this intelligence. collaboration and
00:02:30cooperation, you see that's why we call that this
00:02:33effort war is national activity, so all elements
00:02:37of national power power, all elements of our
00:02:41political you know segments, all elements of our
00:02:45organizations and institutions, we have to work in
00:02:48unisa to create that synergy to address this issue, otherwise
00:02:52of this war on terror, war against the non state actors, it's a very
00:02:56challenging war, so it is protected also it is going to be protected.
00:03:00also but it is not only to fight
00:03:02of the present environment but to to create an environment from
00:03:05where you protect your country from happening it again and again and
00:03:09again you know
00:03:10so we have
00:03:10to work along with by by by
00:03:13of creating that synergy and necta
00:03:17is I think the organization which
00:03:20of is going to do it and already there is an understanding there is
00:03:23understanding of this gap as well and they are trying to address it and
00:03:27hopefully things positive outcomes will come. in the
00:03:30future right?
00:03:33far go ahead with your
00:03:36of in question? yeah, actually there was some communication laps and all they
00:03:40ask those questions, but let me add to this:
00:03:43regarding you know national action plan itself, do you
00:03:47think that there are many important
00:03:50you know points and that which have been already achieved? is there
00:03:54a possibility to once again develop
00:03:57another national election plan?
00:04:00of national action plan 3.0 so that we have very
00:04:04of current
00:04:05of you know points that we
00:04:07have we need to implement. i think other
00:04:11than the kinetic, there are many socio political economic
00:04:15points in that and of course that's a very
00:04:17of comprehensive then then we had
00:04:18a revised national action plan as well
00:04:21of which was reduced
00:04:22of to few less points. why not? why not
00:04:26it depends upon the requirement
00:04:28of of the and depends upon the... prevailing environment, this national action plan was
00:04:32initially,
00:04:33you know, this was made in 2014 and probably the first
00:04:36security paper, always call it
00:04:39for Pakistan, so I think we are nation of
00:04:43very serious minds, intellectual minds who
00:04:46of understand war, and if there are gaps are there can be new
00:04:50approach addressing those issues for which this plan was
00:04:54constituted, I think we can review that, but having said that it's all
00:04:57incompassing, the biggest issue was the will implement that
00:05:01plan, if if you can make 100 plans, you can
00:05:05make brilliant ideas, you can bring brilliant ideas
00:05:09into those plans, but if you don't have the intent and will implement then it
00:05:13will be a challenge. i think most important thing in the is
00:05:17the consistency in the policy, keep the will and intent and as i
00:05:20said earlier Pakistan has the capacity, pakistan has the capability and most importantly
00:05:24today's Pakistan has will implement and use all available
00:05:28means to protect Pakistan and why not in this domain. right, thank
00:05:32you very much, major general retired Zahid Mahmoud, defense analyst for joining us, we really
00:05:36appreciate your presence specifically to our studios and we appreciate
00:05:40of course your perspective as well, this was the first. segment, ladies and gentlemen, about
00:05:44Pakistan's warren terrorism that continues and though there is a spike in the terror
00:05:47incidents, but at the same time Pakistan armed forces have intensified the
00:05:51IBOs and as we were discussed, we have to really break the
00:05:55ecosystem that is there of terrorism and that needs a consistency in
00:05:58policy, creating regional alliances and then bring that up to the
00:06:01international community. With that we move to the second segment of our program, which is
00:06:05about the middle east situation, what exactly is going on there, it is of
00:06:09course facing very dangerous situation, we've been joined by ani, former
00:06:13ambassador, thank you so much sir for joining
00:06:15in. when
00:06:19we talk about the middle east situation, there's another layer of complexity that is
00:06:23added recently, it's the hotis intensified attack specifically on
00:06:27international airports that has caused casualties and
00:06:30suspension in their operations as well. what is your take on the kind
00:06:34of on the on the on the nature that has changed basically the
00:06:37conflict? yeah, i think it's a serious
00:06:41development and which
00:06:44definitely for Saudi Arabia as well
00:06:47as member states the mac they
00:06:51would also be looking at it and Pakistan
00:06:55has already condemned such attacks, but there is new positive
00:06:58development or significant development which Iran has offered
00:07:02to mediate between thehis and
00:07:06Saudi Arabia, this is something
00:07:10we I have been discussing with other
00:07:14friends, diplomats, and this
00:07:17was somehow agreed that
00:07:21Iran can play a very significant role because it
00:07:25has very close relationship with the hoothies,
00:07:29hotis have been enjoying Iran's
00:07:32support, getting drones as well as
00:07:36missiles and so
00:07:40maybe botis may be operating
00:07:43independently, but Iran does
00:07:46have influence, so I think if
00:07:50that happens and if Saudi Arabia agrees, I think that
00:07:54would be a positive dev, yes,
00:07:58right, ambassador Daani, it is talk it is we
00:08:02talking about undermining the security of kingdom of Saudi
00:08:05Arabia, the safest place on earth, specifically it's
00:08:09very sacred for Muslims as well, but "there are
00:08:13concerns of security just not for the citizens and civilians who are living there, but
00:08:17also the foreign visitors, the tourists and the residents that are
00:08:20there, so how should international community now respond to the kind of
00:08:24threats that we are facing in terms the security of Saudi
00:08:27Arabia? well, they have to
00:08:31respond the way they have been responding on such
00:08:35incidents taking place
00:08:36elsewhere that
00:08:40and they should condemn. this terrorist
00:08:43activity which is taking place at the hands
00:08:46offies, any case futis whatever they may show
00:08:50their military powers, but they are a non-state actors, they
00:08:54are not recognized by the international community,
00:08:58the legitimate governments, although still sitting
00:09:02in other, they have had the
00:09:06setbacks at the hands of putis, but that doesn't
00:09:09mean that isis are. should be given a card
00:09:13planch or a free hand, so I think international
00:09:17community should also play its role, when
00:09:20they can talk about
00:09:22issues
00:09:26elsewhere in the world, and when
00:09:28they talk about human rights and when
00:09:30they talk about free passage of waterways, so why
00:09:34not for the babal mandab where the
00:09:38isies are trying to exploit the situation,
00:09:40yes? Right, ambassador Dani, how
00:09:44do you see now Riyadh responding? I mean in
00:09:48the in the past if we see Saudi Arabia has responded very maturely, but at the same
00:09:51time we know and we also want the countries, the gulf
00:09:55allies want not to expand this conflict, not to you
00:09:58know prolong
00:09:59this war, so how do you anticipate the response coming from Saudi Arabia
00:10:02now? I think Saudi Arabia,
00:10:06they has behaved very maturely
00:10:10and then Saudi Arabia
00:10:13should also have the
00:10:17satisfaction that it has the
00:10:21support of Pakistan and Turkey.
00:10:25"they are into a defense fact, which any
00:10:29case is going to take action
00:10:33for
00:10:33the defense of Saudi Arabia, so
00:10:37no one can be allowed to infing upon the soverenty
00:10:41of sudia, island and
00:10:45especially the holy places, so I
00:10:47think Saudi Arabia has done very
00:10:51well and very mature, yes.
00:10:55right ambassador, ambassadorani,
00:10:58could we also speak about one one question that keeps
00:11:02on bothering my mind, as you pointed out, hutis are
00:11:06basically non state actors and especially given their
00:11:10history, it was thought that Iran
00:11:14was actually supporting them in the past, we don't know what is the status right
00:11:17now, Iran's own condition doesn't seem to be
00:11:20great, so they might not have that kind of money or...
00:11:25network to export weapons, where are they
00:11:29getting all this weaponry from sir? and
00:11:33how come they have all
00:11:34of sudden have this renewal of energy? there is another
00:11:37question regarding you know one milestone which has
00:11:41been in this month, now we we are very close
00:11:45to israely elections and then mid-term elections are going to
00:11:49take place also do you think that seriously after these
00:11:53two milestone this going to be some kind of
00:11:57overture for peace from both
00:11:59sides? anything is
00:12:03possible, but how
00:12:07is are getting it, it's not something new,
00:12:09and these powers who have been objecting
00:12:13to this getting weapons, they were
00:12:17just looking on as the
00:12:20spectators whether united states or other
00:12:24powers, so I think
00:12:27it's only now that juties have and
00:12:30after this maka packed they have
00:12:34tried to block babal
00:12:38mandap and that is
00:12:42a way is expanding the theater war
00:12:45theater but here I think
00:12:49situation would be different because here isis
00:12:52will have to face ' three
00:12:56countries which have joined hands in the
00:12:59defense and the self
00:13:02defense, so they cannot be allowed
00:13:06to go extra territory, and that
00:13:10is the main thing, and doing so
00:13:14they'l be enjoying international support, which hutis
00:13:17would not have, and now that Iran has offered
00:13:20its mediation, I think
00:13:24then..." one should expect some positive results,
00:13:27yes, ambassador
00:13:30The Rani, we are talking about security of Saudi
00:13:33Arabia, the the attacks on the critical infrastructure, be it on
00:13:37the pipelines or beat on the you
00:13:40airport, so does this expose the kind any kind of
00:13:44weakness in terms the regional air defense arrangements and what are the kind of
00:13:47lessons that these gulf countries should be you know drawing from in terms
00:13:51of better intelligence sharing or better security arrangement? for the
00:13:55gulf region overall? i
00:13:59think it can't be, we can say it's not
00:14:02weakness, it is yes, if you have
00:14:06early warning, you're lucky and you can neutralize the
00:14:10incoming missiles or drones, yes that is
00:14:14success, but you are not always lucky
00:14:17and at times the aggressors
00:14:21missiles or drones hit the target, so it's a possibility.
00:14:25because
00:14:25it is, it's the disturbance
00:14:29the peace, it is, you can say
00:14:32it is now a state of war, in that
00:14:35situation you should
00:14:36expect the kind of
00:14:40attacks from the adversaries, so
00:14:43what hoothies are doing is part the the
00:14:47game, yes, right, ambassador
00:14:51dani, when we talk about the vision 2030 the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. "it has
00:14:55invested lot be in the tourism sector, aviation or
00:14:59you know the diversification of economy, so when we talk about
00:15:03these repeated attempts or these repeated attacks as well, what would
00:15:06be the impact on the vision 2013 and how can we
00:15:10you really go away from the kind of impression that now
00:15:13it is creating in terms of let's not also forget about the makka
00:15:17defense pact, well I think two
00:15:21are different, but at the same time if..."
00:15:25Saudi Arabia has to divert its resources to defend
00:15:29itself and to tackle that
00:15:33definitely then the
00:15:362030 which will have
00:15:40to bring in some amendments already,
00:15:44i think the project neom
00:15:47project, there have been some cuts,
00:15:51so in a state in unusual circumstances
00:15:55and a state of war, these amendments are
00:15:58possible, so we should anticipate
00:16:01that and expect
00:16:03that ambassador.
00:16:07honey, we are talking about the US around situation, the confrontation as well, and though
00:16:11we know that there are engagements happening through intermediaries, though the
00:16:15stance remains turn and firm and both are giving opposite
00:16:19statements in terms of showing any kind of compromise,
00:16:22so do you think diplomacy is possible right now, the situation that we
00:16:26are in or the stage the point that we are on? well,
00:16:30diplomacy is always possible, during the thick the
00:16:33war parties, they do engage each other,
00:16:38and mostly it's behind the closed or mostly is away
00:16:42from the public player, public
00:16:44attention, that is,
00:16:47that has been the traditional norm historically that
00:16:51happened during the course the war, what
00:16:55is the result that matters and that result
00:16:59now we are now into a new
00:17:01era, we have seen in the recent war that the
00:17:05geography has all has played an important role, but
00:17:09here it has proven that despite the air
00:17:12superiority enjoyed by Israel and united
00:17:16states and then of course having a
00:17:19sophisticated missile defense
00:17:23systems as well as aggressive missiles, cruce missiles
00:17:27and ballistic missiles, the geography has played
00:17:31a role and it has played role in favor of
00:17:34Iran. reason is that these parties
00:17:38Israel and united
00:17:39states are not committing
00:17:43their boots on ground so and they are not going to
00:17:47because they can't afford taking back
00:17:50bodybacks so so this is a you
00:17:54know stalemate condition which is there
00:17:58in similarly i can see this
00:18:02kind of a threat in babal mandap area
00:18:05because there's
00:18:07the is since they have a
00:18:09proximity to babal mandab so they
00:18:13can create problems unless they are pushed away from that
00:18:17geography and that can only be done by the
00:18:21legitimate government of yemen of course there is
00:18:25need for giving support to the
00:18:27legit and Iran has to
00:18:30councel that they should sit
00:18:34with
00:18:35their ryons and come up with
00:18:36the solution. I think here Iran can play a
00:18:40positive right,
00:18:43ambassadortani, you while mahim was asking a
00:18:47question regarding Saudi plan
00:18:502030, vision 2030, I actually thought of
00:18:54something else, because you have mentioned bubble mandam and we have been talking
00:18:58about straight of b, there has been a lot of talk about
00:19:01alternative tools, particularly land tools, then we
00:19:05saw attacks on. Arabia and
00:19:09for bit east first pipeline was also
00:19:13shuttered, do you think that incoming days there is going
00:19:17to be some kind of alternative plan to
00:19:20ensure that energy supplies continue
00:19:23unabated and that can be safe guarded as well and
00:19:27if that happens how soon
00:19:29so I think
00:19:32that's since this is new situation
00:19:36alternative. plans have been tried,
00:19:40this east west pipeline was one
00:19:43them, but it has come
00:19:45and babal m, so I
00:19:49think that plan has not
00:19:53worked to the satisfaction the soudis,
00:19:57UAE has tried to use the
00:19:59route, yes to
00:20:02bypass state of pomus, it is
00:20:06possible, but
00:20:09how much these roots are
00:20:13can catch up for the passage of
00:20:16energy, especially oil through the state of
00:20:20farmers where normally it is almost 20%
00:20:24the requirement or the
00:20:27waterway which serves those
00:20:30energy transport that would be
00:20:34served and it would then take a while i think and lot of
00:20:37resources, it is possible, but at the same
00:20:41time whether those would be economical would be another
00:20:45question, and then question is, are we in for
00:20:49expensive? energy both oil
00:20:53and gas through alternative goods, you have seen
00:20:56that India tried to
00:21:00bypass Pakistan while going to Afghanistan and central Asia through
00:21:04chabar, but India's private business has not
00:21:07availed that facility because they know it is very
00:21:11expensive, it cost them around 75% more in
00:21:14transportation cost, what they can send say through
00:21:18Waga to Kabul then two days takes them
00:21:2220 days to go via chaba so and
00:21:26which is why that private businesses are not availing this
00:21:29facility. same happens say for Pakistan,
00:21:32if this stalement with Afghanistan continues, so our
00:21:36access to central Asia would become expensive whether we take
00:21:40Iranan and route or through
00:21:41China. right, thank you very much
00:21:45ambassador asrani for joining our show and giving us your
00:21:49comprehensive. analysis on the current scenario, thank you farfi for being there
00:21:53with us, although we missed you being in the studio, but thank you again for your
00:21:57pr uh viewers, this is about the middle eastern situation, the kind
00:22:01of conflict that we see rising every day, beat the beat the strikes
00:22:05in the Gaza or the US Iran conflict, the tensions around straight of home
00:22:08was right now, the latest development that we've been talking about is the latest
00:22:12and fresh strikes suppose on critical infrastructure of Saudi Arabia and this
00:22:16time it is on the international airport which is not only cost casualties, but
00:22:20also suspended flight operations as well. It is very concerning and
00:22:24alarming at this time
00:22:25and the need of this hour is specifically now is to deescalate
00:22:29tensions, is to care about the security the civilians and the
00:22:33infrastructure as well, respect the sovereignty, respect the international law and
00:22:37bring all parties back to negotiating table. This is all for tonight show it's
00:22:41mahinja free signing off, stay tuned to Pakistan
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00:23:14Education has become the latest casualty of Hindutva
00:23:17politics as Muslim students. were punished for excelling in
00:23:21Indian occupied Kashmir. Fascist Modi regime has shut down a
00:23:25medical college in Indian illegally occupied Jammu and
00:23:28Kashmir after the first bat saw an overwhelming
00:23:32number of admissions of Muslim students. Right wing Hindu
00:23:36groups fueled by extremist Hindutva ideology under Prime Minister
00:23:40Modi demanded that the college should admit only Hindu
00:23:44students. The admissions to the medical college were finalized after
00:23:47India's national entrance examination. test:
00:23:51legislators the ruling BJP even petitioned the lieutenant
00:23:54governor to enforce religious discrimination, and so on the 6th of
00:23:58January, the national medical commission revoked the college's recognition
00:24:02citing alleged deficiencies, move widely criticized
00:24:06as capitulation to religious extremists rather than genuine
00:24:10educational concerns. Chief Minister of Indian illegally occupied
00:24:14Jammu and Kashmir Abdullah condemned the BJP and its allied
00:24:18Hindu groups for targeting Muslim students. saying that the campaign had
00:24:21destroyed the future of aspiring doctors in Kashmir. Nasir
00:24:25Kuhihami the Jammu and Kashmir students Association warned that
00:24:29framing education as Hindu versus Muslim was
00:24:32dangerously communalizing the sector. He stressed that institutions
00:24:36run by Muslim bodies across India do not exclude
00:24:40Hindu students. Nasir termed religious segregation in the
00:24:44education as both discriminatory and deeply harmful
00:24:48to social cohesion. The closure the medical college
00:24:51further exposes the growing influence of Hindutva politics and
00:24:55Indian illegally occupied Jammu and Kashmir, raising
00:24:59serious questions about fairness, equality and the right of
00:25:03Muslim students to access
00:25:05education.
00:25:26a team like that? I think personally Barbarazim should look back at himself and look
00:25:29back at him as a player and be focusing on how he himself is going to
00:25:33score runs. But it shouldn't be a mismatch in the way that it's playing out. I think
00:25:37that's been very frustrating to watch on the pitch to see these players we
00:25:41know are capable of so much more.
00:25:43Razal has a prime example that there's so much raw talent in Pakistan. I
00:25:47mean
00:25:48you know the way he played the way he's. I mean coming on, suddenly flying
00:25:51into the country, not being used to these conditions, taking four wickets, as I
00:25:55was able to carry Pakistan flag for almost, yeah, 20 years
00:25:59there, and uh, hopefully, inshallah now. being the
00:26:02president can see some Pakistani representing Pakistan in the
00:26:06near future at the open as well again inshallah and we'll show the fans that we
00:26:10are in control and we are making big decisions um but this this
00:26:14is this is not a positive thing for Pakistan cricket it's amazing
00:26:18things on and off the beach he has shown respect he has
00:26:21shown resilience he has shown excellence just for
00:26:25voting for him which is pure corruption at
00:26:29the
00:26:29at at it but it doesn't have to be like this it have to be more rules into it,
00:26:33explained ethical matter, leak by arsenal
00:26:37th, but again it was luck last season
00:26:40whereby
00:26:41the they secured their victory and the tried to change, and i
00:26:45have
00:26:45no more knowledge than referee who's older than me, supposed
00:26:47to judge my fight, come on, it's embarrassing, the supposed to educate you as well at
00:26:51the same time, exactly, he's supposed to keep me
00:26:53safe.
00:27:03Pakistan has categorically debunged India's baseless and
00:27:06misleading remarks regarding US President Donald Trump's
00:27:10recent comments on nuclear testing. Once again, New Delhi
00:27:14has twisted facts attempting to link Trump's words to
00:27:18Pakistan's nuclear program, a desperate bit to
00:27:21malign Pakistan's impeccable record. See
00:27:25Glendestine and illegal nuclear
00:27:27activities are in keeping with Pakistan's
00:27:30history. that is centered around decades
00:27:34of smuggling, export control
00:27:37violations, secret partnerships,
00:27:40aq khan network and further
00:27:44proliferation. India has always drawn the attention the international
00:27:48community to these aspects of Pakistan's
00:27:51record. In this backdrop, we have taken note of
00:27:55President Trump's comment about
00:27:58Pakistan's nuclear testing, but Pakistan's foreign
00:28:01office wasted. no time in setting the record straight, it
00:28:05stated that US has already clarified its position and there
00:28:09is no connection whatsoever to Pakistan's nuclear
00:28:12activities. Pakistan reaffirmed that its last and
00:28:16only nuclear test were in May 1998
00:28:20and its stance remains consistent, responsible and
00:28:23transparent. After having lost that war, India
00:28:27is definitely desperate to defame
00:28:31Pakistan as... and they don't leave any
00:28:35stone unturn to you milig
00:28:38Pakistan unlike India which has abstained from key
00:28:42UN resolutions calling for a global ban on nuclear
00:28:46testing, exposing its ambiguous and dangerous
00:28:49intent. In today's world, no nuclear testing can go
00:28:53hidden because the very precise calculation of
00:28:57seasmic activity. Indeed, Pakistan's nuclear program
00:29:01operates under one. the most secure and credible command and
00:29:05control systems in the world, with comprehensive export
00:29:09controls and zero violations of international
00:29:12laws. Meanwhile, India's own history tells a darker
00:29:16story from radioactive material thefts to illegal
00:29:19sale of California link to Kaba atomic research
00:29:23center. The message is clear, Pakistan's nuclear
00:29:27posture is responsible, transparent and globally
00:29:31acknowledged while India's disinformation campaign
00:29:34only exposes its insecurity and deceat.
00:29:38Pakistan stands firm on facts, not
00:29:41fabrication.
00:30:11Hello and good evening, you watching Pakistan TV and I am Rafi Sohel with the headlines
00:30:15of the hour. Let's have
00:30:16look.
00:30:33Deputy prime minister and foreign minister says Pakistan is committed
00:30:36to the complete elimination of terrorism and demands Afghan
00:30:40Taliban regime to stop all support to terrorists. Addressing counter
00:30:44terrorism conference dar stresses that attacks originating from Afghan soil
00:30:48must end and world mast acknowledge Pakistan
00:30:51sacrifices.
00:30:58Federal Minister
00:30:59for Information.