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00:02:03Hello everyone, July 30th, 2024
00:02:06marks the marturdom
00:02:08of of of one of Hizbillah's pioneers and one
00:02:10of the founders
00:02:11of the resistance against Israeli occupation in
00:02:14Lebanon. Fuad Chukur was not only a military
00:02:18commander in the
00:02:20of resistance, Islamic resistance in Lebanon, but he was also seen as the
00:02:24second man
00:02:24of in Hisbullah, especially after the marturdom
00:02:28of Imad Mughney. he was considered the main
00:02:32military commander and someone who was
00:02:34of inseparable of from the marter, former secretary general
00:02:38Sayid Hassan Nasrallah, and his martterdom of course
00:02:42marked the beginning of a line of Israeli assassinations, and it
00:02:46was actually part
00:02:47of the first Israeli strike and Israeli
00:02:50of aggression
00:02:50of against of the capital Beirot since the genocide in Gaza. On
00:02:54this
00:02:54of episode of Face to face we will be talking to his daughter Khadijah
00:02:58Shukr who
00:02:59of is someone who can give us insight into not only his
00:03:02leadership, but also his role in the resistance, and
00:03:06of course his role as a father. of course, I
00:03:09of would like
00:03:10to thank, I would like to welcome Khadijah, thank you very much Khadijah for being with us
00:03:13and giving us your
00:03:15of time to talk about your
00:03:17of father for Chukut of course on this Martterdom
00:03:19of anniversary, this is the second martterdom anniversary. now first of all we
00:03:23know that he was the first, perhaps commander that was
00:03:27assassinated by the Israelis
00:03:29in a line of assassinations that occurred later on, and
00:03:33finally, of course, it was, the the peak was the assassination, the
00:03:36martterdom of our dear marter
00:03:39sayd Hasan Nasrullah, and just before, of course, the
00:03:42marlah, during the the memorial for Sayid
00:03:46Fuad Shukr. Say gave very landmark
00:03:50speech, his speech was very significant, he was not only seemingly
00:03:54as many people felt, he was not only saying farewell to his
00:03:57people, but he was
00:03:59of talking about could be
00:04:01of a reunion
00:04:01of the marters,
00:04:02a reunion
00:04:03of the loved ones,
00:04:04of the brothers who were the brothers in arms for so many
00:04:07years, that they would be reunited through martterdom. did you
00:04:11sense that in his speech, in his last speech where he
00:04:14said, in arabic, which means
00:04:18of that we will meet
00:04:18of again, and what he meant was he will be meeting with your
00:04:21of father.
00:04:23bismillah,
00:04:27in
00:04:27the name of God, the most gracious, the most mercyful,
00:04:30Honestly, his eminent said Hasan Nasrullah speech during the
00:04:33commemoration
00:04:34a week of my father was extremely moving. As you said,
00:04:38one of its most striking aspects, not
00:04:40of only for me, but for almost everyone who heard it, was the way
00:04:44his eminen spoke about martterdom. It was as though he
00:04:48of were setting a time for a
00:04:49of meeting, and very near meeting. This had an enormous
00:04:54in in effect on us emotionally. After our father's martirdom, we felt that his eminent Sayid Hassan
00:04:58offered us a form of Father. We felt protected
00:05:02by him and drew affection and a sense of support from his presence beside
00:05:06our family. He had told us that he would support us and
00:05:10that we would remain under his care. There. for when he spoke about
00:05:14martyrimm in that way, it was difficult for us to
00:05:17hear. he spoke about longing for martydum and about being
00:05:20eager to follow my father. he even refused to say
00:05:24farewell, instead he said until we meet and martered them.
00:05:28um, it truly seemed as though he was setting a near date for his own
00:05:32martterdom and longing to follow my father. this made me
00:05:35reproach him inwardly, because this kind of speech breaks a
00:05:39heart, just as losing him later broke our hearts.
00:05:42However, perhaps his eminent sense that the region was heading
00:05:46towards war. Perhaps he wanted to communicate that.
00:05:50If defending Lebanon and continuing the path of resistance required his
00:05:54own blood, he had no objection whatsoever. In fact, he
00:05:58was eager to be reunited with those he loved. At the same
00:06:02time, he connected this to the idea the victory of blood over the
00:06:06sword. Even if his eminence himself were
00:06:09morteered, we would consider his blood like the blood of
00:06:12my father and that of other commanders and martyrs to be
00:06:16one manifestation the victory of blood over the sword.
00:06:20هي وحده من مظاهر انتصار الدم السيف.
00:06:24now you already hinted to of course the answer to my next question because i want
00:06:28to ask you as result of that, it's not only just the issue of martterdom, but also like you
00:06:32said talking about a perhaps a long-term victory.
00:06:36did you see that this was going to be the beginning
00:06:39of a long battle for the sake the freedom? the region and we're not just
00:06:43talking about of course the freedom of Lebanon because it seems that now freedom
00:06:47of Lebanon and freedom of Palestine and all the region are
00:06:51inseparable and sayid Hasan
00:06:56sacrifice as you mentioned he's talking about the willingness for sacrifice that even the the highest level of commanders
00:07:00and despite of course the massive love for the people, people are
00:07:03heartbroken like
00:07:05you said for having lost him, but that this battle is perhaps
00:07:08decisive and perhaps the last battle and would require such.
00:07:43especially in such large scale wars. Therefore, if this state
00:07:46requires the blood of Syd Hassan, my father, the leader, and many
00:07:50other commanders and marters, then they willingly offered their blood.
00:07:54They certainly regarded their morterdom as part of this path that
00:07:58would eventually lead to victory. As you said, we are not
00:08:02speaking only about one piece of land or a single country, we're speaking
00:08:06about an entire axis standing against American and Israeli
00:08:09arrogance. Resistance is naturally an. of opposition to
00:08:13something extremely powerful, that is why it is called resistance.
00:08:17before these individuals offered the highest form of
00:08:20sacrifice, their blood, they had already sacrificed their
00:08:24time, youth, comfort, and ordinary lives. their
00:08:28entire lives were devoted to serving the resistance, its plan and
00:08:32its approach. this approach stands against arrogance and
00:08:35attempts to communicate the concept of resistance to all peoples. it
00:08:39is therefore not surprising that they consider all offering their blood for
00:08:43this path to be a small price, perhaps the least they could
00:08:47offer to ensure that these people continued their struggle against
00:08:51tyranybar and of course speaking
00:08:55of resistance, it did not end uh after the the murder
00:08:58of the war, the 2024 war, and despite the fact that we
00:09:02saw that
00:09:03there was an agreement supposedly, sess fire agreement, the Israels continue their
00:09:07aggressions, their assassinations and the destruction
00:09:10now also after the last war in 20 25,
00:09:132026, we saw that the there is massive
00:09:16destruction of all of south Lebanon, not only the border
00:09:20towns, we're looking at what it is, what amounts to war
00:09:24war crimes, ethnic cleansing of all of South Lebanon, not
00:09:28only what they are stressing - infrastructure for the resistance, they're also
00:09:31striking, they're targeting hospitals, they're destroying schools, they're destroying
00:09:35houses, the water stations for example in Markaba,
00:09:39with all of this destruction you lost your father, "we have many families
00:09:43that lost, not only father, a brother, even even mother,
00:09:47sister, children, they lost the
00:09:49the the civilians as well as the fighters, with all of this destruction, do you
00:09:53see that there is as the Israelis are attempting, they want to
00:09:57see, they want to try to break the will the people,
00:10:01and they want to stop the people from supporting the resistance, you feel that
00:10:05any way that support has
00:10:08diminished, they were were they able to break the will
00:10:12of some." although we hear some voices from those that are against the
00:10:15resistance in lebanon saying that
00:10:18it is the resistance that has caused all of this destruction and has caused the death
00:10:22of your loved ones and so on. what do you say?
00:10:28have needed to
00:10:33explain
00:10:33I would in detail how our people think and how they maintain their moral, I would have referred
00:10:37to the words the leaders including Musawi
00:10:40who used to say, kill us, for our people will become increasingly
00:10:44aware. The Israeli enemy does not learn from its mistakes
00:10:47every time it believes that killing and destruction will weaken
00:10:51the people's determination, yet the scenes in Beirot's southern suburb. and
00:10:55in southern Leban tell you everything about the moral the people. No
00:10:59degree of destruction, loss or bereavement during this period
00:11:03has been able to break this population to the extent that it
00:11:06abandons the idea of resistance, gives up its land or stops
00:11:10seeking to defeat the occupation. The evidence can be seen in the Ashura
00:11:14gatherings. The manner in which the funerals the marters were held and the
00:11:18presence of residence in villages they had previously been unable to
00:11:21reach. More importantly, we can hear it in their statements. on
00:11:25television, we feel humbled before a mother who has offered
00:11:28one, two or three martiers, some of even offered
00:11:32four or five, we feel humbled before those who return to their
00:11:36damaged homes and those who were displaced for long periods
00:11:39of time from one area to another, some people were
00:11:43repeatedly displaced from several different locations. despite all
00:11:47this, we hear them speaking only about remaining committed to this
00:11:51path, adhering to the approach of resistance, defending their...
00:11:55land and following the leadership of his eminent Sheikh Naim Qasim who is
00:11:59continuing what his eminent Sayid Hassan had been doing before his
00:12:02martier them. Israel repeatedly tried to reproduce the same old
00:12:06scenarios through killing and destruction. As you said, it commits
00:12:10massacers that are crimes against humanity before they are crimes
00:12:14against particular peoples. We are speaking about schools and
00:12:17hospitals and children. However, the Lebanese people,
00:12:20particularly the Resistance community, raised on these.
00:12:25words of his eminent said Hasan, sayid Abbas, before him, and
00:12:29his eminent
00:12:29the sheikh today, cannot be broken by these tragedies. I
00:12:33believe our people have become too aware to regard sacrifice as
00:12:37source of weakness. They understand that the greater and more
00:12:40costly the sacrifice becomes, the more precious and glorious the
00:12:44eventual victory will
00:12:45be.
00:12:51I remember in the first few months of the genocide in Gaza.
00:12:56came out in one of his speeches and asked the Israelies, haven't you had enough
00:12:59bloodshed, and it seems that the Israelies had not had enough, it seems
00:13:03they are not satisfied, and they went on for more wars and of course
00:13:06even the occupation of Syria and then the war on the Islamic
00:13:10Republic of Iran, the first war, then you have the second war, and of
00:13:14course
00:13:14in the beginning the war, the assassination, the martterdom of our dear
00:13:17leader Ali Khaminai, how did you take that
00:13:20news?
00:13:24uh,
00:13:33of fatherly care, and he gave us that since he was the father of all the
00:13:36ummah. the relationship between the resistance in lebanon and the families
00:13:40the marters with the leader was profound. praise be to
00:13:44God, we received a great deal of his affection during our meetings with
00:13:48him, and his words were always deeply reassuring.
00:13:52however, when the war began, and we learned that the leaders... home have been
00:13:55targeted, we had already reached the state of surrender to God
00:13:59after losing my father and his eminent said Hassan. It had become
00:14:03clear that all the leaders of this axis were ready sacrifice
00:14:07themselves to ensure the continuation of this path, therefore we
00:14:10surrendered our hearts and emotions, which had long been attached to the
00:14:14leader and placed our trust in God. If God chose him as a
00:14:18martyr, just as he had chosen his eminent said Hassan,
00:14:21my father, and the other martyrs and leaders, then God the... 'almighty
00:14:25would take care of us and our hearts. He would give us the
00:14:29ability to continue and draw strength from the path of Wilaah and from the leader who
00:14:33would come after him. Of course, it caused an enormous heartbreak.
00:14:37We are the generation that was raised under the leadership of his eminence, the
00:14:41leader because we did not live during the generation of Imam Khumaini. We
00:14:45used to ask our parents what the demis the imam had been like for them
00:14:48because we knew how attached they were to him. At that
00:14:52moment we understood what loss truly means we'. understood what it
00:14:55means for your guardian or leader to be absent. the difference,
00:14:59however, is that he departed through martidom, which was his
00:15:03ultimate desire, just as it had been the ultimate desire of
00:15:07his eminent sayid hassan and my father. we are people who hope to
00:15:11live for our lives for
00:15:12a particular goal. we do not reject the idea that martyrd itself
00:15:16may be a form of victory, as his eminent said hassan said, whether
00:15:20we achieve victory or attain martydom, we are victorious.
00:15:24these individual. will spend their entire lives confronting
00:15:27arrogant tyrants. Therefore, we say,
00:15:31praise be to God that their lives concluded with marty them because
00:15:35there could be no more appropriate conclusion. for them, despite the
00:15:38heartbreak and the renewed pain caused by the martaridom the
00:15:42leader, following the loss of so many Iranian
00:15:45commanders, we remember the deep emotional relationship between
00:15:48Lebanon and Iran. The relationship between Iran and the resistance has
00:15:52existed since the 1980s. These individuals were regarded as
00:15:56our commanders in Lebanon, and we therefore had a strong
00:16:00emotional connection with them. Nevertheless, during such
00:16:04moments, we remember that Wilaya is an approach and path
00:16:08rather than merely one person. Praise be to God, God
00:16:12honored us with the immediate presence of new aula, we
00:16:16were not left, lost or without guidance. May
00:16:19God support Mustaba Khamanii because this period is not
00:16:22easy. Ultimately, he has also lost his father during this
00:16:26transitional stage. Despite the pain we have learned from previous
00:16:30experiences to carry our grief and transform it into something
00:16:33meaningful. We constantly remind ourselves that the spain serves.
00:17:07leader leader, you also we have the families the marters, your family met
00:17:11him several times, what can you tell us about these meetings, how significant were
00:17:15they?
00:17:21انا راح بلش باخر لقاء, i would like to begin with the meeting
00:17:25before the last, which was the first time we met him after the martyrism of my
00:17:29father. i was always used to meeting him in the presence of my
00:17:32father. ever since we were children, we met him regularly every time we
00:17:36visited eran with our. father: we always received so
00:17:40much compassion and love
00:17:41from him, and we felt it despite the fact that our father was with us.
00:17:45there was some very exceptional meetings we attended, and we were
00:17:49told about the other meetings between my father and the leader and how
00:17:52they had a strong bond, and we saw this relationship with our own
00:17:56eyes. one the friends said that once they used my father's
00:18:00name to be able to get closer to the leader and speak to him. he said the
00:18:04leader was leaving and that he was eager to speak to him, he said
00:18:08muhsin sends his regards and that made the leader turn around and speak
00:18:12to him. he used this clever way to get closer to the leader. what was
00:18:16different in the meeting we had with the leader after the martidom of my
00:18:19father was that the leader told me that he loved to embrace Sayid
00:18:23muhsin and that now his affection will turn to us, his
00:18:26children, and that he will always pray for us. he always gave us
00:18:30morale and said that despite the hardships we are nearing victory.
00:18:34that morale was something all the families the marty. and fighters felt
00:18:38when they met him
00:18:39and it proves the deeply rooted relationship between lebanon and
00:18:43Iran. We have the same approach, the same enemy, and this war
00:18:47proved that Israel is using the same method. It is no longer separate
00:18:50issue, all the region is united now in the
00:18:53struggle. If we want to talk about some the
00:18:57details, perhaps, I'm not sure if you can tell us anything about those
00:19:01meetings, especially since you spoke
00:19:05about the fact that
00:19:06you said there's this victory. that he's talking about, which includes a full
00:19:10defeat for the Israeli regime, this genocidal regime,
00:19:14and he gave that, he always had that confidence that it will be soon. now with
00:19:17all this destruction and everything that is happening, many are saying the
00:19:21Israelis no, have the upper hand and so on, how would you look at that and how
00:19:25do you see it in, it's not in mathematical terms
00:19:29perhaps or logical terms, it is more something that is bigger
00:19:32than that, more spiritual, what can you tell us about
00:19:35that? maybe sanctified the soul the
00:19:38leader. He used to say that whenever the hardships become more
00:19:42intense and the winds become stronger, we're actually drawing closer to the
00:19:46summit. As you said, he always possessed this kind of optimism and
00:19:50confidence that victory was coming. He never presented victory as
00:19:53something as simple as drinking a glass of water or as easy and
00:19:57smooth process. He spoke openly about hardships, he told
00:20:01us that we would face increasing difficulties. He explained that when we
00:20:05felt the difficulties becoming severe. we should understand that we were
00:20:09approaching the summit, we should hold on more firmly and remain
00:20:13more committed to this path. we try endure our wounds,
00:20:17as he used to say, and consider the hardships we are
00:20:20experiencing as evidence that we are drawing closer to the
00:20:23promised result. we draw confidence from the words the leader,
00:20:27his eminent said hasan, my father, and all the other commanders.
00:20:31however, above all, we have confidence in the words of God the
00:20:35almighty. god says that if you support god's cause, he
00:20:39will support you. i believe we have all witnessed that the islamic
00:20:42republic and the leaders of this nation have supported the cause of God.
00:20:46Iran's path, whether through supporting the resistance and
00:20:50Palestine, Yemen, Lebanon or Iraq has represented
00:20:53support for the cause of God. Naturally, whoever supports
00:20:57God's cause, will ultimately receive God's support, sooner or
00:21:01later. The timing, the manner in which it will occur, the number of
00:21:05difficulties and the length the delay are matters of God's hands.
00:21:09It is sufficient for us to believe that we are on the right path. Everything
00:21:13else is determined by God the Almighty. How do you think the marturdom of
00:21:17Sayid Ali Khamenei actually united the resistance? front
00:21:20more and more, we saw
00:21:21of course there
00:21:22were retaliatory operations not only from lebanon but also from
00:21:25Iraq, from
00:21:26Yemen.
00:21:30This is one the lessons Israel has never learned, beginning with lebanon and
00:21:34extending across the region, whenever Israel assassinated or leaders, the
00:21:38resistance became stronger, it
00:21:40assassinated.
00:21:43spoke about the importance the blood of marters. Israel then
00:21:47assassinated and him, the
00:21:51resistance continued to grow and become stronger. Whenever one the
00:21:54commanders was assassinated, or when the number the falling commanders
00:21:58increased, Israel failed to understand that the more precious her
00:22:01blood became, the more the resistance was revived and its determination
00:22:05strengthened. The same thing happened when Haj Qasim Sulaimani and Abu Mahdi
00:22:09Muhandas were martered. Their marty them united Iraq and Iran
00:22:13a manner that had not been witnessed for many years, the martyrdom the
00:22:17two commanders became intertwined. Forgive them. harshness the
00:22:20expression, but even their remains were mixed together. their
00:22:24coffens traveled through both countries, and at that time we began
00:22:28to understand how our commanders unite us even after their
00:22:32martydom. the Israelis and americans have not learned from their
00:22:35mistakes, they have not understood that these peoples draw strength
00:22:39from the blood the martters and from the idea of losing them, rather than
00:22:43abandoning their path, we think about how we can carry their
00:22:47approach forward more effectively. had Israel learned from these
00:22:51previous events, it should have anticipated what would have happened during
00:22:55the funeral the leader. the funeral reminded us the
00:22:58extent to which the different parts of this alliance can become
00:23:02united, we witnessed the magnificent funeral and the large numbers
00:23:06of Iraqis who rushed to take part in it. so many people in other
00:23:09places also wish they could have been present as well.
00:23:13representatives of all parts the alliance attended the funeral.
00:23:17this funeral demonstrated that whenever Israel 'the United States
00:23:21tried to weaken the determination these peoples, the blood the
00:23:24martyrs comes to strengthen them even after the
00:23:27martyrs ليثر حتى من
00:23:31بعد شهادتهم ويقويها اكثر of course that's very
00:23:35significant what you are saying, but now I want to go back to the issue of
00:23:38Lebanon, despite all the destruction that is happening in south Lebanon, we
00:23:42still see the Lebanese government or part the Libanese government
00:23:45insisting on the direct negotiations and this framework agreement
00:23:49that'. had signed in Washington, they continue negotiations, they're saying
00:23:53in Rome, how do you look at that, especially as someone
00:23:57who whose father
00:23:59died for the sake the freedom of this
00:24:01country?
00:24:06Unfortunately, when we discuss such matters, we're speaking about people who
00:24:10are partners in the homeland, lebanese citizens, just like
00:24:14us, I do not understand how they can forget that from the
00:24:18moment the Israeli occupation. entered Lebanon, their brothers and sisters in
00:24:22this country, paid an enormous price. They offered their
00:24:25children, their siblings and fathers to defend this homeland. They made
00:24:29these sacrifices to ensure that Israel could not occupy even one
00:24:33inch of Lebanon, and to work towards driving the Israelis beyond
00:24:37Lebanon's final borders. They wanted to ensure that Lebanon could
00:24:41live with dignity and honor without being subjected to these
00:24:44pressures, which continued even during periods described as
00:24:48peace. The existence the resistance and all the sacrifices it
00:24:52made were in the exchange of protecting Lebanon's sovereignty.
00:24:55Unfortunately, we find that part of Lebanon's political establishment
00:24:59is offering the sovereignty and freedom to Israel a silver
00:25:02platter through these negotiations. Personally, I consider
00:25:06this as betrayal the blood the martyrs.
00:25:09It is betrayal of those who sacrifice themselves, those who
00:25:13sacrifice their comfort and those who sacrifice their blood and even
00:25:17their homes.
00:25:18It is betrayal of every... person who stood against Israel and said, "I
00:25:22want my country to be liberated, dignified and honorable."
00:25:26I do not consider these negotiations legitimate, and I believe that the
00:25:30families the marters share this opinion. We do not believe that
00:25:34these negotiations represent us. We do not believe they represent the
00:25:38Lebanese people, they represent only a particular political class
00:25:42attempting to drag the country a particular
00:25:45direction. I do not believe they will succeed either, in the near
00:25:49future. future, we have previously witnessed many
00:25:52similar attempts, the people always have an opinion and free
00:25:56peoples always know how to impose their will at the appropriate
00:26:00time.
00:26:11more time to talk to you more of course in detail about everything that is
00:26:15happening, I want to thank you very much and once again our condolences to
00:26:19the loss of your father and all the the marters. Thank you for joining us on this
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00:26:26now.
00:28:52A new phase the Iran war has begone as
00:28:55missile strike alliances fracture and pressure mounts in
00:28:59Washington, the question is no longer only, Who can win the
00:29:03next battle, but who can endure the war that
00:29:06follows?
00:29:14Is America facing another endless conflict and has
00:29:18Iran changed the rules the battlefield. These and more
00:29:22on this edition of Iran
00:29:23today.
00:29:57The headlines Yemini Armed Forces say they have conducted major
00:30:01military operation.
00:30:25West bank for the second day, they've also injured at least eight
00:30:28people in southern Lebanon.
00:30:49It's half 9 pm here in the Iranian
00:30:55armed forces.