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00:00:00closer examination of how power, colonial legacies and
00:00:06of of impunity continue to shape lives across the border. here is a brief
00:00:08of report.
00:00:13following the recognition of US independence by great Britain in
00:00:18of 1783, American
00:00:19of Westward expansion intensified involving the seizure of
00:00:22lands,
00:00:24of military conquest, massacres and forced displacement. US
00:00:28military campaigns against indigenous were extensive,
00:00:31of of contributing of to the destruction of communities and suppression of native
00:00:35cultures. Estimates
00:00:36of the indigenous population before European colonization
00:00:40vary, but millions lived across North America. By
00:00:44of 1900, the US census recorded around
00:00:46237,000 American Indians,
00:00:50although historical census methods had significant
00:00:54limitations. The widespread killings, forced removals
00:00:57and cultural suppression have. led some historians to
00:01:01characterize particular US policy and campaigns as
00:01:05genocidal. California
00:01:07in was one
00:01:07of the most diversely populated areas for native
00:01:11Americans, but the 1848 California Gold
00:01:15of Rush brought 300 thousand people there who
00:01:18enslaved native Americans and used them as
00:01:21of a free source of labor. The California
00:01:24of governor apologized to the state's native peoples in
00:01:272019. Nuws said that it's called genocide,
00:01:31there is other way to describe it, and that's the way it needs to be
00:01:35described in the history books. when it comes to
00:01:38genocide,
00:01:40of massacker and killing innocent people, the US has a long history of
00:01:46of of such crimes. the contemporary Ira is rife with such examples considering Washington's
00:01:49approach to enforce its hegemonic policies outside the
00:01:53US borders. the country's invasion of Iraq in
00:01:562003 is one of those examples, the US attacks and the
00:02:00subsequent occupation that
00:02:02of took place under the false pretext of destroying
00:02:05of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction of keys, the
00:02:08of US of has never been, the US has never been alone
00:02:12its crimes in west Asia, it's ally Israel
00:02:16launched a genocidal war on Gaza
00:02:17of in October 2023. The war has so far took the
00:02:21lives of over 74,300 Palestinians
00:02:25and caused devastation in the bessieg
00:02:28the strip more. Recently the US and Israel
00:02:31imposed two wars in Iran from attacks a school in the southern
00:02:35city of Minab that killed 168
00:02:39civilians to deadly strike and a sports hall in lamerd
00:02:42to
00:02:43of attack against Iranian warship deny in international waters there
00:02:47are multiple instances of war crimes in the two imposed
00:02:51a wars of the genocide and disposition of indigenous peoples
00:02:54in in the US did not end with history today the same
00:02:58machinery of imperial power projects violence beyond
00:03:02US borders
00:03:05of of with a wars launched against other nations, including Iran, threatening innocent
00:03:09lives. Allow
00:03:12me to
00:03:13of introduce our guests for this program. Timothy Mas
00:03:17is assistant professor of international law, University of
00:03:20Nicosia joining us from
00:03:22Greece.
00:03:29We also join. by Rafiki Morris, artist, activist, writer
00:03:33and educator joining us from Washington DC in the
00:03:37of US. Welcome to the to the
00:03:41program, gentlemen, thank you so much for your time, allow me to
00:03:44of start in Greece uh
00:03:46of with uh Professor Timas.
00:03:48I mean, if we look at the history
00:03:50of the US imperialism, it's almost impossible not to
00:03:53of connect of it with how the United State is running internally
00:03:57its own um citizens from. from the attacks on
00:04:02of African-Americans or the attack on migrants and the
00:04:05institutionalization of violence that we now see on the US
00:04:08streets.
00:04:11of yes, first of all, thank you for hosting me. it is obvious that there
00:04:15is a deeply
00:04:17of
00:04:17of of rooted of ideologization and of
00:04:21violence within the within the US. we
00:04:24know that the United States economic system
00:04:28is was built. not only industrialization
00:04:32and exploitation of workers, but also on
00:04:36slavery at a mass scale. we know
00:04:39that the colonial practices
00:04:42of of
00:04:42a the british empire
00:04:46of transfer to to the united states as part
00:04:48of their fundamental ideology,
00:04:52the fundamental ideology is
00:04:54in build, of united states fundamental ideology is build on the
00:04:58the
00:04:59of capacity
00:04:59of to exp. band and take the land,
00:05:03exploit the natural resources and
00:05:06of ethnically cleans the lands, the
00:05:10resources and the people of... of other of other origins,
00:05:14including the indigenous populations the United
00:05:17States, I think that now that the
00:05:21US is declining,
00:05:25this deep admiration of
00:05:28brute force without any moral
00:05:31constraint,
00:05:34this arrogance of the force, I would say
00:05:38is getting ever stronger, it's a... the
00:05:42mentality the the establishment in the United
00:05:46States sees victory as
00:05:49complete humiliation if not
00:05:53extermination of anyone who does not
00:05:57accept to be subordinate to the
00:06:00richest and in particular to the ultra
00:06:04rich white people that govern the united states,
00:06:07right? i see you shaking your head there, mr.
00:06:11rafiki, and I like you to get involved in that conversation as
00:06:15well, um, as an African, American, no
00:06:19one is more a better position to tell us of how
00:06:22this institutionalized um violence against um,
00:06:26you know, people who refuse to bow or cower and
00:06:30how um imperialism
00:06:32and imperialistic um view continue to shape how
00:06:36people are being treated in the
00:06:37US,
00:06:40well... once again thank you for having
00:06:44us and I think this is very important uh
00:06:47discussion that everybody needs to engage
00:06:51it
00:06:52um I
00:06:55i the opinion that the
00:06:59US treats Africans in that country
00:07:02today the way they always have
00:07:05and and similarly with the
00:07:09native Americans and with um
00:07:43this capitalist imperialist
00:07:46system and the
00:07:49violence in military form is
00:07:53really just another manifestation the daily
00:07:56violence that
00:08:00people have to deal with in form of
00:08:03economic exploitation and the form of racial oppression
00:08:07a form of just downr social
00:08:11degradation people. are suffering in this place
00:08:15and that's the nature the place is to make us suffer
00:08:18so that they can extract money, extract wealth,
00:08:22extract resources from the very
00:08:26people who are actually doing the work to
00:08:29build this culture and this society, so
00:08:33I i think it's um, I don't really
00:08:37get too excited when it flares up,
00:08:41because it's all... has been flaring up
00:08:44and and the difference between
00:08:48because look the did in gaza was started by
00:08:51democrats and
00:08:53then accelerated by republicans and this just
00:08:57shows that the whole the state apparatus is
00:09:01in this enterprise it doesn't
00:09:04matter and it's not new the
00:09:08question is how we going to resolve it and address it
00:09:12so... that the the rights of human beings are being
00:09:15protected um everywhere in the world and
00:09:19it's not confined to the international scene is
00:09:22happening right in the cities the united states and the criminal
00:09:26justice system right and uh militarization
00:09:30the police, it's all a part of a grand
00:09:33design to exploit our
00:09:36labor and to eliminate as
00:09:39as our previous guest said anybody. who wants to
00:09:43stand up for themselves, yeah, that's
00:09:47that's the nature of this thing, right? so then the the question
00:09:51then is, what is the way out if the United
00:09:55States, which was built on you know the genocide the
00:09:58indigenous people, the enslavement of Africans, uh,
00:10:02the the migrants and Africans who
00:10:06then build the US to become the power house that it has
00:10:10become, how do we move on? from here, if
00:10:13this is the status quo and this status quo is also being
00:10:17exported to different parts the world, many of western countries like
00:10:21Australia and Canada can also trace their own um
00:10:25history to the same genocide, this question is for Dr.
00:10:29Timas, where is the way forward, because many people are still
00:10:32looking to this western country to save whatever is left of Gaza,
00:10:36that is the international system, the two
00:10:40ways, the first one is resistance from the rest the world, you
00:10:44know, just as orientalism is is is
00:10:48a colonial fantasy, there is no common
00:10:51orient, the same is with the so-called west.
00:10:55"the west is invention the colonial forces in order to be
00:10:59able to to
00:11:02present themselves as something different than colonial
00:11:06forces. before the west we had the fantasy the
00:11:09christian world or the civilized world or etc. in reality it was
00:11:13always the colonial forces, the colonial imperialist
00:11:17forces, so there is no west as such,
00:11:21there are people oppressed in the west, but obviously people of this in the..." so
00:11:25caled ways, but obviously people who suffer
00:11:28directly from colonialism and imperialism suffer suffer even worse,
00:11:32so the one way is resistance, and
00:11:36this hurts
00:11:38at the at the heart the whole ideology of
00:11:41power, because it diminishes the fantasy of
00:11:45power that is so fundamental for the US
00:11:49establishment. the other thing that is
00:11:52particularly important is:
00:11:55internal, i would say revolution, but at
00:11:59least opposition within the imperialist
00:12:03powers, one the most significant
00:12:07events, the the one is obviously the
00:12:10the success the resistance from, the other,
00:12:13however, is how much hateful is
00:12:16Israel and also
00:12:18capitalism in the
00:12:21younger generations of us citizens?
00:12:26and the two them, the resistance
00:12:29outside the UN, the the rejection
00:12:33the the the rejection of us,
00:12:37that would say in general, that would say in general in
00:12:41the so-called west are the most two significant events, because
00:12:45actually now, although inside the United
00:12:48States, as well as in other European as well as in
00:12:52European states, it doesn't seem to... the first glance
00:12:56very much likely to have revolutionary developments,
00:13:00the conditions are actually deeply
00:13:02confrontational, both in terms of ideology and
00:13:06in terms of class interest, and in this regards the resistance front
00:13:10gives lot
00:13:11of lot of courage to the people even inside the
00:13:14US and European states, because it shows that resistance can be
00:13:18successful. okay, i'm going to cross
00:13:22over to Mr. rafiqi, resistance can... successful, but
00:13:26correct me if I'm wrong, um, many movements that came out
00:13:30the liberation for the African-Americans in the United
00:13:33States or class action were ultimately
00:13:37repressed, it's one the reasons why we are taught
00:13:41to love uh Dr. Martin Luther King, Bohr River or not
00:13:45really want to be associated with Malcolm X, because his
00:13:48version of resistance is translated as violent
00:13:52and we're taught to not want to be violent. but to justify the
00:13:56institutionalized and government and state
00:13:59violence, well
00:14:02um, well pose an interesting question,
00:14:06resistance is resistance, and for
00:14:09anyone to
00:14:13put the resistance the civil rights movement
00:14:17against the resistance the black nationalism with
00:14:20mal x representative is a person who doesn't understand
00:14:24resist. "these are two sides the
00:14:27same coin, and nobody can say Dr.
00:14:31King did not
00:14:32purausly
00:14:36speak to power in the interest the needs
00:14:40the people, just as also spoke to
00:14:44power, I think that what the issue
00:14:47is which was properly raised is the question of
00:14:51power, we we're not oppressed."
00:14:56because we want to be oppressed, we're oppressed
00:15:00because we don't have the power to put an end to our
00:15:04oppression, so we have
00:15:07responsibility to organize
00:15:10ourselves to come together, and
00:15:14it's it's it's a responsibility that we
00:15:18have to ourselves and to humanity,
00:15:22right, because that's the other side the point. "there's people
00:15:25fighting against capitalism and imperialism and
00:15:29colonialism and zionism all over this
00:15:32world, these forces have to come together and
00:15:35unite and..." form a united front
00:15:39is capable of withstanding the
00:15:42brutality these
00:15:43of these oppressors and exploders the people,
00:15:47organization and
00:15:50consciousness, understanding
00:15:54among the people are the key elements
00:15:57to our our future, and we're
00:16:01not going to defeat the most
00:16:05nastiest econ. political system in the history of
00:16:09humankind overnight, okay, so we have the
00:16:13long-term plans. okay, allow me to cross back to
00:16:17Greece, as a professor yourself, correct me, i'm wrong, but
00:16:20there has been this massive change among the young people,
00:16:24like you mentioned earlier, especially having watched the live stream
00:16:28genocide from Gaza, and you speak about how that has
00:16:32brought together this confrontation now with power, is
00:16:36there hope that for the future generation who have now
00:16:40learned the true meaning of capitalism and how
00:16:44the violence that is being perpetrated against the people in the
00:16:47west is also the one that is manifesting itself in another
00:16:51form in other parts the world with it in Africa, Latin America
00:16:55or West Asia, is there hope now in organizing
00:16:58around the the valor and the bravery the
00:17:02resistance to push back at
00:17:04home uh the... level of
00:17:08oppression um even
00:17:11within
00:17:12the US and in European states
00:17:14and I'm talking about political oppression
00:17:18which is growing, I'm not saying that we are in open
00:17:22dictatorships, but there is
00:17:25climate of of political
00:17:28oppression, and in some cases
00:17:31the the even proto-fascist
00:17:33movements shows how much fear.
00:17:38the establishment is in the US and in
00:17:41Europe because the fact that especially
00:17:45younger generations and exploited people begin to
00:17:49wonder and the major question is
00:17:52first of all, why
00:17:54do we have to be complicit in such crimes?
00:17:57secondly, why must we be get prepared to fight wars?
00:18:01we don't even understand against Russia or against Iran, understand
00:18:05against Russia or against Iran. and
00:18:09potentially is very difficult
00:18:12equation for the establishment to maintain
00:18:16its ideological hegemony, the ideological
00:18:20hegemony which was built first on anti-communism and
00:18:24then on the idea that outside the so-called west
00:18:28leave barbarians or that if you look
00:18:31downstairs
00:18:32at at the social scale even within
00:18:36within at. capitalist western states, you will
00:18:39see marginalized,
00:18:43dangerous, ready to commit cs people, all
00:18:46this ideological hegemony built on fear
00:18:50is disintegrating, of course they have weapons
00:18:53and they will most likely try to
00:18:57renew the fear against some potential enemy
00:19:01again, that's the one way, the other is some kind of
00:19:05you know py intellectual mass hacking
00:19:09with very sallow
00:19:12emotional outbreaks that they know how to
00:19:16engineer, they will even
00:19:19formulate supposedly anti
00:19:23anti-systemic movements which are deeply systemic,
00:19:27most likely from the far right, like trump was for example,
00:19:31don't forget that Trump was elected as a president of
00:19:33peace, among other things, but yes,
00:19:38"there is again the sense of struggle being
00:19:41transferred within European states and within
00:19:45the United States. there is a deeply rooted
00:19:49economical, financial, cultural,
00:19:52ideological crisis the people who possess
00:19:56power in our states.
00:19:59okay, um, professor themis mentioned
00:20:03something very interesting, which is the ideological hegemony the United
00:20:07States?" has and my question then to you, Mr.
00:20:11Rafiki,
00:20:12is are we nearing a point where this hideological
00:20:16supremacy is dying um under the weight the
00:20:20bombardment in Gaza, under the illegal um attack in
00:20:23Iran and the murder of 168 school children
00:20:27under the um attack by ice on the street the United
00:20:31State where people have been murdered without um you know any
00:20:35investigation or justification. Maybe we may be
00:20:38nearing an end to that um ideological
00:20:42hegemony and supremacy, do you think we are there or no, there's still
00:20:46a long way to go?
00:20:50i think there is some different times and i think
00:20:53that um the the process of coming to
00:20:57understand was happening in the world has been
00:21:00accelerated in the minds of of many young
00:21:04people um i was
00:21:07privy to work with some the palestinians who was
00:21:10incamping at George Washington
00:21:13university and we saw freshman
00:21:17students who barely knew the word
00:21:21through their engagement in that activity and their
00:21:25interaction with other militants and
00:21:28organizations
00:21:31accelerated their level of
00:21:33understanding
00:21:41capitalism and imperialism,
00:21:43the their relationship to it, the relationship, the
00:21:46necessity for organization, these are things. usually take
00:21:50quite some time for people to grass, so I think that the
00:21:54times that
00:21:55we are in and the
00:21:59access to information, even the bad
00:22:02information accelerates or at least creates the
00:22:06possibility of accelerating the
00:22:09collective understanding the world that we give
00:22:13and
00:22:15the development of
00:22:17development of.
00:22:28to any kind of change that we want to make, so i do
00:22:32agree, i capitalism and imperialism is desperate, that's why
00:22:36they pushing this reactionary propaganda out here so hard
00:22:40every every minute or every day, but that just shows that they
00:22:43got to keep us confused in order to keep us
00:22:46exploited, and and people are learning and growing and... "I'm
00:22:50always enthusiastic about the
00:22:53future. Okay, Professor Temas, we
00:22:57we see current administration in the United
00:23:00States um that is very bold
00:23:04when it comes to how it disregards even the laws
00:23:07the US and the US states has always tried to
00:23:11um cover um from the the the
00:23:15abduction of seating president in Venezuela um you know
00:23:19to..." all of this pivot up and down the United States president
00:23:23has been doing, do you think we like a previous guest
00:23:27said that there is acceleration especially among the youth in seeing the true
00:23:31face of imperialism and the rejection of it? um, is
00:23:35that also reaction to why the US is taken
00:23:38off some of this cover and just gone straight
00:23:42to the imperialistic core and the way imperialism behave
00:23:46with power? the U.S.
00:23:50establishment is deeply anxious to catch
00:23:54up with
00:23:55the with its with the power that
00:23:59it loses by accelerating its aggression against
00:24:02its potential rivalries
00:24:06um the US establishment will do
00:24:08anything and will use any
00:24:11potential weapon,
00:24:13i think um to
00:24:15to try and maintain its dominance and
00:24:19hegem. exactly because it
00:24:22cannot persuade even its own
00:24:25people, one the things that that
00:24:29came out as accident is
00:24:33that because the massiveness of social media, although
00:24:37despite the fact that they're controlled by big tech or by a handful of
00:24:40companies, they need to have
00:24:44massive amounts of of
00:24:46users, makes it even for the... is not
00:24:50more than four or five big companies to
00:24:54control the whole of content, they need more and more
00:24:58content, and that make creates gaps, holes
00:25:02through which some aspects of reality
00:25:05pass to to to massive audiences
00:25:08and don't forget that it's been
00:25:1235 years since the soviet union
00:25:16is gone, since then the united states tried to find the...
00:25:20an enemy capable of
00:25:22you know somehow creating some sense of unity
00:25:25that the the its establishment could exploit, but
00:25:29it has failed to do so. when you present yourself
00:25:33as so strong that you have no
00:25:36competitors, it becomes very difficult to find an enemy
00:25:40that can persuade right, that be fearful for your own
00:25:44people, so a way the united states are
00:25:47feeling the outcome the...
00:25:50on declared victory against the Soviet
00:25:53Union, okay, and because of
00:25:57communication roads that they opened themselves, right? I'm really
00:26:01sorry, we would have enjoyed. to keep that conversation going, but we
00:26:04are smack out of time. i like to thank both
00:26:08gentleman uh, professor timmes seams, assistant
00:26:11professor of international law, university of Nicosia, joining us from
00:26:15Greece, we're also joined by Rafiki Morrice, artist,
00:26:19activist, writer and educator joining us from Washington
00:26:23DC, and to you our beloved viewer, thank you so much for
00:26:27joining us on this section, goodbye for
00:26:29now.
00:26:42A story of Iran's resilience today, a US-Israel strike
00:26:46during the 40-day war on Iran hit a laser and plasma
00:26:50research facility in Tehran, and most people would assume that
00:26:54means shut down, silence, damage, end of work, but
00:26:58that's not what happened in the Islamic Republic of Iran, because within
00:27:01days the... labs were running again, researchers back in
00:27:05the building, equipment being cleared and experiments
00:27:09restarting, so the first question writes itself, what
00:27:13exactly was the US Israel strike supposed to stop? the
00:27:17answer is quite clear, it was attempt to attack Iran
00:27:20scientific infrastructure itself. many of you may
00:27:24ask, but why? let's on foot that the facility is
00:27:28a working research center focused on plasma physics,
00:27:31photonic. mix, biomedical imaging and industrial
00:27:35applications, the kind of science that moves between
00:27:38medicine, energy and materials, and hey, it is not
00:27:42just theory, the inventions are being applied in Eurons
00:27:46hospitals, industry, pharmaceuticals, even for
00:27:50gemstones. so if the goal was disruption, did the US and
00:27:54Israel succeed? the clear answer is no. another question
00:27:58pops up, how is the work already continuing? because Iranian
00:28:01scientists are: framing this as deeper than physical
00:28:05damage, they believe it reflects pattern, pressure on
00:28:08Iran's scientific infrastructure, something the US
00:28:12and Israel have been doing for decades, remember the target
00:28:16killings of Iran's nuclear scientists and cyber attacks on
00:28:20peaceful nuclear plants. Anyways, this attack was another
00:28:24desperate attempt to disrupt years of research, expertise and
00:28:28technology of research, expertise and technological
00:28:31progress. Instead of allowing the strike to define the
00:28:35institute's future, Iranian scientists returned and
00:28:38restart projects at the center. The damage equipment
00:28:42is already being replaced and in some cases upgraded within
00:28:46domestically developed systems, so instead of shutting the work
00:28:50down, the US is really strike appears to have accelerated
00:28:53rebuild cycle, and that's how the Islamic Republic
00:28:57works.
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