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00:00:00is worth hundreds or thousands of palestinian lives,
00:00:03not million, it's 10 million, okay?
00:00:07that just sounds racist.
00:00:24I'm Rick
00:00:25a Sanchez. What would you do if somebody tried to kill your
00:00:28family? while they're at
00:00:30a restaurant, or your children while they're building sand castle
00:00:34a beach. man, I
00:00:37of know what I would do, you probably would do the same thing, right? now we also know
00:00:41what the Russian military would do, after three days
00:00:43of of deadly attacks on families, on diners, on beach
00:00:47goers, on children. Russia struck back last
00:00:50night, bombing military installations that produced the drones
00:00:54and the missiles
00:00:55of that were likely used to attack those children and those families
00:00:59even. At the
00:01:00in beach.
00:01:01in Watch.
00:01:09See, those are the images that you're looking at right there, images
00:01:13of the strikes. Now, those buildings, those are that are being
00:01:17hit, are described by Russian Intel as transport
00:01:20and logistics facilities for NATO's drone war
00:01:24against Russia. So, Russia used long-range
00:01:27weapons to target and hit these. compounds that are used
00:01:31to store and distribute the long and medium range
00:01:35drone parts. They also identified something interesting I never heard
00:01:39about before. They targeted what sounds like the motherload of drone technology that they
00:01:43found
00:01:43of through Intel, right? It's a, it's called an automated
00:01:47innovation center.
00:01:48There it is right there, where all the drone parts, the robotic systems and the
00:01:52electronic warfare equipment is stacked and stored and then
00:01:56of shipped out as needed to all the different parts of Ukraine to feed
00:01:59of Mr. Zelensky.
00:02:30white paper, document, which calls for longer range
00:02:34of missiles, counterstrike capabilities, and closer tise
00:02:38between its military and the country's private tech
00:02:42companies to
00:02:44non possibly of use against china. now this is not sitting well with
00:02:48china right now,
00:02:50of right? china has reacted in the last 24 hours calling the white paper
00:02:54document
00:02:55of replete with false narratives and
00:02:57a exaggerated security risks. sound familiar. so how
00:03:00of far will China go
00:03:02in to ensure that Tokyo doesn't rearm itself,
00:03:06right? remilitarize as it did when it
00:03:10attacked China and the United States back during
00:03:14World War II, because that's really what this is all about,
00:03:17right? so
00:03:18of listen to what this Chinese businessman and government advisor
00:03:22told me when I talked to him, this was back in
00:03:25February, and I asked him, what will China do
00:03:29if Japan? and continues down this road of rearming
00:03:33itself. watch what he says: there are
00:03:36terms for Japan, never to constitute another military
00:03:40threat against China, otherwise they will be in
00:03:43of breach
00:03:43of their unconditional surrender terms and China,
00:03:47being victor nation, has the absolute full right to
00:03:51strike at Japan to prevent the rise of
00:03:55Japanese militarism or new Japanese fascism.
00:03:58of I have declared on many occasions, the moment Japan possesses
00:04:02nuclear weapon will be the moment
00:04:05of the annihilation of Japan as a state,
00:04:08period, period, the
00:04:11non annihilation, he said, if they go with nuks or develop
00:04:15nukes. Japan,
00:04:17you know, is not the only country that used China as a threat in the United States, the Trump
00:04:21administration has all but created a red scare regarding China since
00:04:24he's been in office. It's mostly hype, mostly
00:04:28politics, you know, but "that is not stopping the
00:04:32usual fearmongers from
00:04:35weaponizing, in this case educational
00:04:39of
00:04:40a exchanges. look at this headline, right? this is the global times, it spells out the key
00:04:44a question that no one has yet answered. how is limiting or stopping
00:04:48or or or deporting Chinese international students going to make the United
00:04:52States safer country? it
00:04:54won't,
00:04:56you know what it will do,
00:04:58of it's probably going to make it..." students from china
00:05:02and India and other Asian countries regularly triple
00:05:05outscore all other students at US universities I
00:05:09mean by a wide margin right? so much
00:05:13so that it's almost like a running gag in movies that even
00:05:17Hollywood puts out or memes that you see on social
00:05:20media, but right now, look,
00:05:24America, my country, is an angry place, it's not
00:05:27exactly a place that's fostering a welcoming environment, which is
00:05:31why as ridiculous as it may sound, suddenly Chinese students are the
00:05:35enemy, they're seen as a national security threat bause they go there
00:05:39to attend us universities, he... Here is what the
00:05:43global times says in its editorial about this. I'll read it
00:05:46to you. It says quote, how exactly do international
00:05:50students threaten US national security? This report offers
00:05:53zero evidence, this white paper, student visa policy has become
00:05:57deeply devisive and highly politicized in the United States. Since last year, US
00:06:01immigration and customs enforcement, ice agents, they've
00:06:05arrested foreign students, triggered widespread panic across the United
00:06:09States and international community. "as
00:06:13you look at that, it's kind of hard to disagree right, especially when
00:06:17students, some of whom who aren't even
00:06:20Chinese, but they look Chinese or they have parents who are
00:06:24Chinese are also being attacked and excluded. listen to
00:06:28this young man story. one of my main concerns was
00:06:32that is the fact that I am Asian American something that actually benefits me or
00:06:35something that actually disadvantages me. my dad ended up joining this fight as
00:06:39well, so my dad and a bunch of other leaders..." Asian-American community
00:06:43formed the Asian-American Coalition of Education, with that coalition
00:06:47together, they together filed a joint complaint
00:06:51against Harvard University. Since 2014 we
00:06:54have lots of progress and I always ask
00:06:57my son and well contributed the
00:07:01community, service for the
00:07:02community.
00:07:07He's really not even Chinese. Here's another one about
00:07:11this kind theme right? Right, that we talked about this yesterday, remember yesterday we were
00:07:15talking about Israel's finance minister, the guy who said he doesn't want the
00:07:19United States to know this, guess what, we know
00:07:23now, but it's better to have American soldiers fighting Iran
00:07:27rather than Israeli soldiers fighting Iran, and and he inferred that
00:07:30Israel is deploying the United States military in Iran,
00:07:34so Israel doesn't have to do the fighting, and so Iran can
00:07:38be weakened. Well, this comment underscored what,
00:07:42many Americans are now saying out loud that Israel has
00:07:46some kind of superiority complex that has involved
00:07:50now them taking advantage of America's benevolence
00:07:54right, but if you thought that comment was
00:07:57crazy, by the way, that comment went viral, if you thought that
00:08:01comment was bad, wait until you hear the one I'm about to play for
00:08:05you, so this is apparently some guy on the West Bank, he's being asked
00:08:09by reporter why he feels... and he's representative the
00:08:13views there by the way, why he feels Israel are
00:08:17better than other people other races, especially of
00:08:20course when it comes to Palestinians, watch what he
00:08:24says, now after they kill one Israeli
00:08:27people, we need to kill all the people in Tel and
00:08:31Sarah, even jit and farata,
00:08:35why? because we don't want to happen
00:08:38again. it sounds like you're saying one Jewish life.
00:08:43is worth hundreds or thousands of palestinian lives,
00:08:46not million. one
00:08:50Jewish life, it's 10 million.
00:08:54okay, that just sounds racist. yes, i
00:08:57know. i know, but this is the
00:09:01true, because god choose us, because
00:09:05of this, you are jealous.
00:09:08wow, did you hear that?
00:09:12is worth more than 10 million because that's the way God wants
00:09:16it to be for his chosen
00:09:19people. you
00:09:22know, when I when I when I first saw this comment as I was
00:09:26preparing this newscast, this show for us, I
00:09:30thought that more often than not, when when people
00:09:34describe Israelis and that Israelis believe that or that kind of rhetoric
00:09:38that's coming from Israelis, I i've always thought,
00:09:42come on. they don't really think like that, they would never say that kind of thing, they don't really
00:09:45believe that kind of thing, and then and then I hear it for
00:09:49myself, right, and and I can't help but
00:09:52think, my god, these people are
00:09:56serious, this is how they really
00:09:58think, it's not like just
00:10:02him, right, I mean, this is a chorus that we
00:10:05hear over and over again,
00:10:08scary, I mean, here, listen for yourself, one...
00:10:12time, his words, one
00:10:16jewish life, it's 10 million,
00:10:20okay,
00:10:24i want to tell you about a US congressman, I know this guy buse I covered him when he
00:10:28was running for office, I'm going to show him to you here, his name is Rapael
00:10:32Warnock, he's from Georgia, he's a democrat, not
00:10:34exactly the type of US politician one would
00:10:38expect to be defending Russia by the way, but he's kind of defending
00:10:42Russia, I'll tell you how, what he's actually defending is
00:10:46America's right not to have to continue to pay higher prices
00:10:50every time they go buy something, which is what automatically
00:10:53happens we know.
00:11:25United States, in honor of Lindsay Graham, the Congress wants
00:11:28President Trump to now impose what Lindsay would have wanted,
00:11:32100% tariffs on China, Russia and
00:11:35Iran and all the countries who do business with China,
00:11:39Russia and Iran, right, because this is what Lindsay would have
00:11:43wanted in his death, I guess, this dude, Warnock, the
00:11:47Democrat from Georgia, says that's crazy, so
00:11:51here he is, in fact in the past, not too long ago, telling the...
00:11:55treasury secretary uh, what
00:11:58tariffs do to American families?
00:12:01listen, well, you should talk
00:12:04to the people in Georgia, they they will tell you sir,
00:12:07that whatever tax relief you think you gave them was
00:12:11more than taken up by these
00:12:14tariffs, they they they according to according to
00:12:18the yall budget lab, the administration's tariffs cost families three
00:12:22times as much as they got back. "here's the real
00:12:26irony in all of this: while the United States and the
00:12:29west are talking about taxing Russian oil and gas
00:12:33and tariffs on Russian oil and gas and punishing Russia you
00:12:37know because because it's selling oil to people and they don't want them to be
00:12:41selling oil to anybody like it's their business, but anyway
00:12:44uh there's a new report, amidst all that, there's a new report out
00:12:48that seems to show that Belgium, which
00:12:52is the epicenter, the very hard..."
00:13:26um, they can't make it through one day without Russian gas, while
00:13:30they're hating on Russia, criticizing Russia,
00:13:34a daily basis, bad Russia, give me your oil, give me your gas, we need
00:13:38it, I mean, right, you can't make
00:13:42this stuff up, when we come back, we
00:13:45told you yesterday about YouTube taking down my
00:13:49account, right, this is what happens in social media, well now
00:13:52Meta has apparently also taken that. the video of somebody
00:13:56who is much more important than Rick Sanchez by about 1 million
00:14:00times, the prime minister of India, if you can believe that,
00:14:04that's right, Mr. Modi's video was taken down, the Indian
00:14:08government's upset because what he put out was important, it could have stopped people
00:14:11from demonstrating and possibly getting hurt, they're not
00:14:15happy about this, what's going on, we're going to talk about this with our
00:14:19guest, ambassador Khanwal Sabal, who is India's former foreign
00:14:23secretary, he's... Graceus with his presence, when we come back, do not go
00:14:27away. We kick
00:14:31off the new season of Inland Visions from El Bruce, the
00:14:34roof of Russia, where every step and view takes your breath
00:14:38away, so join us as we take the show to new
00:14:41heights.
00:15:04Joining us now is renowned diplomat, ambassador Kanwal Sabal, he is
00:15:07India's former foreign secretary, among other things, because he's been representing his country
00:15:11and many countries in the past, and it's an honor for us to be able to have a conversation. Mr.
00:15:15Ambassador, thank you so much for joining us, sir, my my pleasure, thanks for
00:15:19inviting. I guess we got to start with this situation that's going on, this
00:15:22bruha between... India and
00:15:26Metta uh, how would you describe what's going on? Is it a real
00:15:30uh, is it a real case, is it a real story, or is the media just kind of going crazy with this
00:15:34thing? No, no, it's the real story and the government of India. has taken
00:15:38this very seriously, they summoned meta
00:15:42Chief to India, he has come along with
00:15:45another senior executive to talk to the government of
00:15:49India, because the government is
00:15:52extremely unhappy that prime
00:15:55ministers address to the nation at
00:15:59midnight a particular day when this agitation in Delhi was going
00:16:03on, was not aired by meta.
00:16:07h and the protesters, what they
00:16:11were saying, the agitators, their statements, some them were
00:16:15absolutely vicious in terms of language use, was
00:16:19being freely propagated, which
00:16:23means that the algorithms have been done in such a way that anything which is
00:16:27anti-government will get
00:16:30amplified, and anything which explains the viewpoint the government will be
00:16:34suppressed, five hours they did not, a
00:16:38this which has rankled the government and they have
00:16:41summoned these people and they have come, i think today they are there and
00:16:45apparently according to our the secretary in charge of our it
00:16:48ministry mac zakarb has expressed his
00:16:52regret and said that they will now
00:16:56redo things in such a way that this does not this does not get
00:16:59repeated that is one issue the other issue of course is
00:17:03child sexual abuse and stuff like that which is a problem
00:17:07uh for Europe and for India, so this time we've told them
00:17:11that you going to lose your safe harbor if you
00:17:14continue not to deal with the
00:17:18issues that we are raising with you, and also in the future when
00:17:22we raise issue with you, we don't want you to say bring a court order and
00:17:26stuff like that, this has to be within, they given some time
00:17:29limit, I don't know what exactly
00:17:31it is, I forgotten, they've given time limit in
00:17:34which the objectionable material. has to be
00:17:38removed from the platforms, we've had people on the air here at RT
00:17:41today saying that this could have turned dangerous because he what he was essentially trying
00:17:45to do was give an explanation to try and quell demonstrations that were
00:17:49going on in the country, and if the people in those demonstrations don't hear from their prime
00:17:53minister, those those those demonstrations could
00:17:57turn uh more violent, is is that a good point? do you agree with that? yes, of
00:18:01course, but this is true, this is correct, in fact the whole
00:18:04thing, see the prime minister announced in his speech,
00:18:08that all the youngsters who were guilty
00:18:12the most abominable language directed against the
00:18:15government and the prime minister himself will not be proceeded
00:18:19against legally, yeah there no
00:18:22firs or police reports filed
00:18:25against them because he said that look at the end the day children are children,
00:18:29they can commit mistakes, they should have a chance to
00:18:33make amends, change the thinking, they have to be persuaded.
00:18:37"the elders have to deal with this a manner that the children are
00:18:41brought back into the right path and if he then force them to spend their
00:18:45life in courts and in police stations, that's not the way to go about it, but
00:18:49those who actually commuted serious criminal
00:18:53offenses by attacking policeman and injuring them, some them
00:18:56severely, those will be proceeded against.
00:18:59so now this is very important statement, but
00:19:03then then of course the the mata people..."
00:19:07did not, they did not relate it, they did not put it on their
00:19:11platforms, because the algorithms have been done in such a way that anything which is
00:19:15anti government will get air much more than something which actually
00:19:19explains the government's point of view. what do you make these algorithms that they
00:19:22use in social media? give you an example in my case, right? mean i have won
00:19:26emi awards, i have won p body awards, journalism
00:19:29awards, i've worked at CNN and NBC, i've
00:19:33interviewed four different presidents the United States and prime
00:19:37ministers and world leaders and yet now simply because
00:19:41I'm based in Moscow, the algorithm says I have to
00:19:45be excluded from YouTube, so they've taken down my name, my
00:19:49brand, my channel. It doesn't seem fair to me, I'm no different to
00:19:53journalist here than I was when I was working in Washington or New
00:19:57York or Miami, but the algorithms say now I'm a
00:20:01bad guy. That doesn't seem fair to me, it's almost
00:20:04like what they're doing in this case, is it not? Well, I think...
00:20:07you're using very mild words saying is not fair, i think is worse
00:20:11than that. mean, this is contrary to all the values that
00:20:14they talk about in his spouse, and they harang the rest the world
00:20:18with those values which which makes them feel
00:20:21morally and politically superior. this kind of sending, this kind
00:20:25of suppression of voices, not allowing the public to get
00:20:29access to different points of view by serious people. now you are serious
00:20:33person, so it's not as if you are a propagandast.
00:20:37of any kind, but look, at the moment I am in Paris and
00:20:41I see the French TV, my god, you would think that Russia
00:20:45is collapsing, it's finished as a country, it's on his last legs, he's going to break
00:20:49up. "and Kiev is successful in every possible
00:20:53way, and then any any drone thing that happens anywhere in
00:20:57Europe, this time in Germany somewhere near den or some place like
00:21:01that, again that these are the Russians who are doing this and stuff like
00:21:05that, now this kind of win washing that is going on, I can
00:21:08understand that you have kind of an honest debate where a
00:21:11person can hold these views, but then there is another person who gives different point
00:21:15of view so as so that the public can judge where really the
00:21:19truth."
00:21:22of course, it is all one sided, you don't feel like watching television here, frankly, it's such such a
00:21:26come down. let's talk a little bit, what's going on in Iran, which is obviously
00:21:30the biggest story in the world, and nobody seems to be able to figure it out, including the president the united
00:21:34states. here's what you just wrote, okay, this is your latest post, you say
00:21:37everything that could go wrong for the United States in Iran appears to have gone
00:21:41wrong, what began as attempt to force a strategic outcome has instead
00:21:45strengthened Iran's regional position and exposed the
00:21:48limits. power, this is important to hear
00:21:52what you have
00:21:53to say, because you're such an experienced diplomat, do you feel like the United
00:21:57States just stepped in it as we say, in the
00:22:00west? well, if this was the first time they did
00:22:03it, I would say that it was a mistake, but they've been doing it again and again,
00:22:07yeah, this is the problem, they think that they can get away with it, and they don't
00:22:11learn lessons from history, after all, Iraq, look what's happened
00:22:15to Iraq, what's happened to Libya, what's happened
00:22:18to Syria, has been broken up, this hasn't brought
00:22:22about stability, peace, peace in this region
00:22:26or allows societies to function
00:22:29properly or or bring about growth and
00:22:32prosperity, nothing the kind, yeah, but repeat that
00:22:36mistake time and again, but this time, mr. ambassador, if I can interrupt you, it seems to be
00:22:40like this time, this might be the macddy of all
00:22:44uh errors on on on the part the United States buse, you're
00:22:47right, we lost a war. vietnam, we
00:22:50lost Libya, we lost in Iraq, we lost in
00:22:54Afghanistan, and you could go right down the list, but nobody really
00:22:57noticed, no, nobody really said, wow, the United States just got
00:23:01its butt kicked, right, this time, that's
00:23:05what all the world is kind of saying, I think, maybe I'm looking at it
00:23:09from too far, you agree, well, actually,
00:23:12it is,
00:23:13it is very surprising that Iran has shown such capacity, such
00:23:17resilience, after it has... been under sanctions for god
00:23:21knows how many decades, yeah, nevertheless, despite
00:23:24this, despite this, they have been able to develop
00:23:28military capabilities which are absolutely astonishing, yeah, the
00:23:32have the kind of military capabilities that most countries in the global south
00:23:35simply don't have, how have they done it, and then their
00:23:39capacity to bear punishment, after all they have, they have been subject
00:23:43to, god knows how many thousands their targets have
00:23:47been been attack, the infrastructure has attack
00:23:50also, but nevertheless they are committed to a
00:23:53certain, they have committed to their country and they are willing to bear
00:23:57this punishment. now the biggest, biggest, biggest tool
00:24:01that they have in their hand, which united states did not cater for, and
00:24:05trump to my mind quite surprisingly admitted that Iran will
00:24:09close the state of hormos, which would mean that this will affect
00:24:13the flow of oil through this region and then will affect global oil
00:24:16prices, yes, secondly that he'l actually
00:24:20back the gulf countries, now in so
00:24:23both both
00:24:25the state of hormones and
00:24:26the gulf countries have become hostage, because if he start
00:24:29destroying the energy infrastructure of Saudi Arabia or of
00:24:33UAE or the water desalination plants or whatever else, and they have shown the
00:24:36capacity to do so because they have actually attacked successfully the US
00:24:40bases in the region which were defended, now all these other civiliant
00:24:44plants, energy or water salination, they are not defended,
00:24:48they not so they can be... targeted, now if that
00:24:51happens, these societies in the Gulf will collapse and it will be
00:24:55dramatic consequence for this reason and for the global
00:24:58economy, so I just don't know who the advisors of Mr. Trump are, whether he
00:25:02listens to anybody advice, what his world view is, what is his sense
00:25:06of geopolitics, I mean he thought that
00:25:09you know he can do a Venezuelan like operation in Iran and and get
00:25:13away with it, and now he has to live with the consequences and those
00:25:16consequences may be in some senses has become
00:25:20stronger, but this doesn't necessarily mean that tomorrow there is going to
00:25:24be sort of better geopolitical
00:25:27situation in this region, it won't be the case. you know what
00:25:31it is about India in particular from diplomatic
00:25:35standpoint, and I'm talking to the right guy to be asking this question, because
00:25:38you are,
00:25:39you know, supreme among the many diplomats that have come out of India
00:25:43over the hundreds of years, but India
00:26:00I've seen India do that regarding... China, regarding the United States, regarding
00:26:04Europe, and most notably now, regarding uh Russia when it comes
00:26:08to oil, for example, where used, you're now getting like a third
00:26:12of your crew from Russia where you weren't in the past, and it's
00:26:16because Russian oil is out of premium and it's less expensive, makes sense, right?
00:26:20It's a business decision. So what I'm wondering is is I hear you talk
00:26:24about the rise of Iran, what will happen
00:26:28or what might happen in this relationship in the
00:26:31future between? Iran and India, if indeed
00:26:35Iran comes out the victor in all of this? well, from our point
00:26:39of view, we have to have, we
00:26:43have to
00:26:44you know very delicately balance our ties in
00:26:48this region, because our ties with the gulf countries, especially with the
00:26:52UAE are extremely important, we have about 3.7
00:26:55million expatriates in the UAE and about 9 to 10 million
00:26:59all together in in this region, but Iran is very... important a
00:27:03very a very different way, mind you, at
00:27:07one time Iran was the second biggest supplier of oil to India
00:27:10until United States forced us with the threat of sanctions to
00:27:14stop buying oil from Iran and since we could get
00:27:18oil from Iraq and Saudi Arabia and UAE and there other
00:27:21sources so we sort of we sort of decided
00:27:25all right, we have no choice, we will do it, but we will not
00:27:29be left high and dry because we have alternative. sources of
00:27:33supply, but tomorrow, if there is an agreement in this
00:27:36region, Iran is right close to us, it is natural that we
00:27:40should have an energy ties with Iran and they can be
00:27:44revived, and because of that, there will be such a,
00:27:48there will be much more fall out in terms of economic ties, and then of course there
00:27:51is a chabar port which links us to Afghanistan and Central Asia, the
00:27:55international north south trade corridor which links India to Russia,
00:27:59these are projects which have not gone off the ground because of us. sanctions
00:28:03and Iran's very trouble relationship with with the United
00:28:07States, but if tomorrow there is stability, these projects can also
00:28:11take off and it can benefit, it can benefit central Asia and
00:28:14benefit Russia, benefit India, and then finally we need to have a
00:28:18balance between the Shias and Sunnis, frankly, the gulf countries are
00:28:22sunnis largely, Iran is Shia, we need to balance
00:28:26our relationship with with these two
00:28:29you know sectarian bits of... the Islamic
00:28:33world so that we are not seen as being close to
00:28:36one or close to the other. now you mentioned that India has been
00:28:40opportunistic, I would say not opportunistic, this is part of our
00:28:43philosophy right from the time that we decided to be aligned
00:28:47during the during the cold war, that
00:28:50it didn't serve our interest to be on one side against
00:28:52the other, what for? if the other side doesn't do any harm to us, why should we be against the
00:28:56other side? yeah, right? is the same logic today? if we can have good
00:29:00relations with everybody, we would like to have that. "there's only one
00:29:04sticking area where India has been getting a little bit of a
00:29:08blast of late from uh people around the world, of course these are all johnny come
00:29:12latelies because people who never criticized Israel or all of sudden
00:29:16all over Israel, you know it only took them a while to get there, but there there seems
00:29:20to be a sense that India might be a little too cozy with Israel, how
00:29:24would you respond to that? well, we
00:29:27have been cozy with Israel, no doubt after
00:29:31the Madrid peace." we establish diplomatic
00:29:34ties with Israel, and after that the Arab countries have never
00:29:38objected. in fact, our relationship with
00:29:41Egypt, with the Gulf countries, including Saudi Arabia, what have you,
00:29:45has blossomed all these years when they knew very well what
00:29:49our ties with Israel were, even with
00:29:52Iran, we have maintained a certain level of ties, the
00:29:56Iranian presidents have visited India, our prime minister has visited
00:30:00Iran, our foreign minister has visited... Iran several times and they
00:30:03know that we are very close close relation with Israel, so they have
00:30:07understood that if we have close relations with Israel, the target
00:30:11are not the Palestinians, we were the first arab state to
00:30:15recognize Palestinian as a state and they opened their embassy in New
00:30:19Delhi and we continue to support their cause, but there are other
00:30:22reasons why we need close ties with Israel, because they
00:30:26have supplied us certain very critical technologies in the area of counter
00:30:30terrorism and since we have suffered from terrorism all these
00:30:33years, this is very, very helpful, plus there are
00:30:37certain areas, some advanced missile technologies
00:30:40where they have collaborated with us and established very
00:30:44close ties with people working on these systems in
00:30:48India, so it's a very, it's a very mutually
00:30:51beneficial relationship, but from our point of
00:30:54view it does not come a cost of our relationship either with the
00:30:58Arab world or or...