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A weekly podcast and a deep dive into the most pressing global issues through the lens of India and Russia. . . Two civilizational powers. The world’s largest democracy, India, and the world’s largest nation, Russia – like chess pieces navigating a shifting global board. . . Hosted by Runjhun Sharma, head of news at RT India, the show draws on her years of covering foreign policy from New Delhi, Moscow, and beyond.

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00:00:00"it won't work over here. what about the media
00:00:03coverage
00:00:04of the cockroach genzi protest in India? on one hand, the local
00:00:08media was being criticized for being too soft, the western
00:00:12media for being too
00:00:14of celebratory. what is your take? well, there was nothing called
00:00:17a local media. i find it aborent
00:00:21that there should have been an
00:00:24in attempt to malign mainstream media
00:00:28in such a gross manner." as we saw happening over there
00:00:32at janta manta, you mean the journalist getting hackled, journalists getting
00:00:36hackled, then this whole use
00:00:38of the term godi media, now such terms were never hurled at the
00:00:42media earlier, but you don't think the media is it fault here,
00:00:46no, listen, mean i i may agree
00:00:48of with the editorial policy
00:00:52of of media house, i may disagree with it, i may
00:00:55of agree with individuals, i may disagree with them, but i
00:00:59would... ever go to the
00:01:02a extent of labeling anybody godhi
00:01:05or like for instance i never use the term
00:01:09in anti-national because i don't think i have
00:01:13enough intelligence to judge someone's
00:01:17nationalist or non-nationalist credentials so
00:01:21this kind of
00:01:23of labelling and this kind of demonizing is bad. the
00:01:27so-called digital media took over. the
00:01:30space over there, television comes under some
00:01:34amount of accountability, print definitely comes under lot of
00:01:38accountability, and but the digital media,
00:01:41of there is no accountability at all, and that I think
00:01:45is not a very happy situation, and I am okay with
00:01:50of editorial perceptions or editorial interpretations, I am even
00:01:54okay with agenda, but so long as that agenda is
00:01:58known to be agenda and... not as some great journalism
00:02:02as it is being made out to be. what about the western media's
00:02:05coverage
00:02:06of these protes? it's been gastly as usual.
00:02:10someone today actually pointed
00:02:13of out to that the New York
00:02:17de Times has till now carried only one story
00:02:20on the enormous protests happening in Pakistan
00:02:24occupied Kashmir
00:02:26of where more than 40
00:02:27of protesters have been killed by the... funny army and they have
00:02:31carried 16 stories till now on the
00:02:35jantar mantar protest various aspects of it of course
00:02:39so this is something which always intrigues
00:02:42me that there is some
00:02:46kind of a system in place which
00:02:50rewards the the
00:02:53monsterization of India and we saw this happening
00:02:57during the second phase of covid if you remember Yeah,
00:03:03of when that we burn our dead is not some
00:03:06great
00:03:08of secret which was kept locked away from the world all these years, only if you
00:03:11don't know India enough, you
00:03:15a would, dead, so there
00:03:19of were actually drone videos of of bodies being burned that were cited as how
00:03:22gustly the situation is that you have to burn and
00:03:26get rid of bodies and all these people. then
00:03:30rewarded with the police, but that's how it rolls, I
00:03:34mean, you can get away with it in India, but you
00:03:37cannot, there's a price to be paid, but is that India's
00:03:41fault, why, why would this happen
00:03:44in India, meaning the covid example you
00:03:47were giving, people were dying all over the world,
00:03:50but the western media, the western
00:03:54a journalist, they would just hop around hospitals
00:03:57inside hospitals, Indian hospitals.
00:04:00of there is there's a disbalance between the way they look at the
00:04:04world like they wouldn't ever
00:04:07show photos
00:04:10of their dead, they they could wouldn't even mention that
00:04:13they have run out of space to bury their dead, at least we
00:04:17were burning our dead and they didn't have space to
00:04:20in bury their dead and they were just stacking them up in meat
00:04:24of trucks, mean how is it that we were worse off?
00:04:28now having said that, "this is not
00:04:31something which is entirely new
00:04:35of and this is India has faced this problem again and
00:04:38again, India faced this problem with the Guardian,
00:04:42India faced this problem with the
00:04:45of BBC, BBC had to be shut down over here, the guardian
00:04:48correspondent was frock marched to what was then
00:04:52Sabdat Jang airport and put on the first flight
00:04:55of out, I mean
00:04:56you know you just could not deal with them because they were so..."
00:05:00intransigent in their operations over here. Why
00:05:04does
00:05:04the western media hate India? You know, during the cold
00:05:07war, new information order
00:05:11emerged in the world. and all these media
00:05:14houses, whether they were public
00:05:18broadcasters or or private media, they
00:05:21became instruments of
00:05:24governments and all these
00:05:27institutions which were earlier set up,
00:05:30I mean DW was set up to cater to
00:05:33Germans, not to Indians, similarly BBC was
00:05:37meant for Britain and it was meant for
00:05:41British. subjects or British
00:05:44citizens abroad, but during the cold
00:05:48war they chose to become instruments of state
00:05:52policy and
00:05:54their audience therefore changed and from domestic it became
00:05:57international, and now of course
00:06:01the story goes that because the
00:06:05domestic demand and audience and market is shrinking,
00:06:09then you they need new ones, money is... tide so
00:06:13they are looking at India as a market etc etc, but
00:06:17that's really that's i mean it's fine with me,
00:06:21mean i don't care, but
00:06:23i think at some point foreign media needs to also
00:06:26revisit its own
00:06:29ethical standards,
00:06:33it's i won't say morals but at least ethical standards and
00:06:37how each day they violate
00:06:40them and how it's ultimately hurts their
00:06:43own credibility, even back home, nobody takes the New York Times
00:06:47seriously, nobody takes BBC seriously,
00:06:51nobody takes the Washington post seriously, look at where are these
00:06:54papers, we have RT as and alt media, now
00:06:58I have a question there, India's long complain
00:07:02about the coverage it gets in in the western
00:07:06media, so the UK
00:07:10has a BBC, Russia has RT,
00:07:13Australia has ABC. Why
00:07:17doesn't India have a platform? Of course there's dd, but
00:07:21not to level where India's voice can be heard a
00:07:25global stage. Dordarshan Prasad
00:07:29Bharti is an autonomous body to be functioning its
00:07:32own, but the fact that it is
00:07:36a state broadcaster remains a
00:07:40reality. In R idea or concept of a
00:07:44state broadcaster, the purposes of state
00:07:48broadcasting, the ideal audience for state
00:07:51broadcasting and how to
00:07:54use these instruments remain
00:07:57defined in a certain manner, those
00:08:01definitions are the traditional conservative
00:08:04definitions of of any state
00:08:08broadcaster, but as I said during the cold
00:08:11war, "government started using their state
00:08:14broadcasters, all these people then became a
00:08:18part the cold war
00:08:22information system, and therefore their audience
00:08:25changed from the local to the
00:08:28foreign, and increasingly they started focusing
00:08:32on that because there was greater
00:08:35individual interest in that, it was much more
00:08:39fun going and doing a story on..." on the
00:08:43Vatican City by by by
00:08:47placing condomes over there and saying see this is the
00:08:50real and then you get found out and you have egg on your face but
00:08:54nothing happens. I don't think Doordarshan would ever want to do
00:08:58it, should it be doing it? I think yes, Doordarshan
00:09:02and All India Radio should should
00:09:05break free of those traditions. when operation
00:09:09Sindhur happened, India had to send delegations to the... parts the
00:09:13world to just convey what India's
00:09:16perspective and point of view was, if there was DD around the world and
00:09:20if people could just switch on and heard India's
00:09:23perspective, would that not make things like much
00:09:27easier? yes, but also no. my
00:09:31journey begins in 1982 and i have seen the
00:09:35fashioning and refashioning the world information order
00:09:39on how the white west controls the information. nation
00:09:42order and there is
00:09:45inbuilt bias in it, a
00:09:49white man's paper will always carry
00:09:53greater cloud than a black man's paper or a
00:09:57brown man's paper, that's a fact even today,
00:10:00even today it would carry,
00:10:03it is a reality, that's my question, why doesn't India do
00:10:06something, I think it is happening now
00:10:10and I think... "younger
00:10:13journalists are now, they feel more confident,
00:10:17maybe my generation was not that confident of of being
00:10:21able to take them all, but today they..." are you
00:10:25think the gensies will take them on? no, no, not even genzies,
00:10:29mean, you are
00:10:32there, everything doesn't have to devolve to
00:10:36genzy to genz, i get it, mean they will at best be
00:10:39reinventing the wheel, but the wheel is being invented right
00:10:43now, you the kind
00:10:47of stuff which you are doing, the kind of
00:10:51stuff which other journalists are doing,
00:10:55and I think young women have
00:10:59shown greater courage in doing
00:11:02this, but what about the other side, journalists in India, they
00:11:06face UAPA, youtubers have faced
00:11:10Firs, then there are x accounts being withheld on government
00:11:14orders, do you think that criticism the government
00:11:18is increasingly being mistaken for being
00:11:21anti-national? This is a common...
00:11:25perception:
00:11:29i don't think you can show me buring the odd
00:11:33case where the union
00:11:37government, the central government has
00:11:41actually filed cases against
00:11:43journalists,
00:11:45whether under any part the law,
00:11:49everybody says that, oh there is a
00:11:53squeeze on free. press there is a squeeze
00:11:56on free speech that that the press
00:12:00is being throttled, expression is
00:12:04being throttled, speech is being throttled, and you are
00:12:08saying all that sitting here in Delhi or
00:12:11in India, fearlessly, without any fear
00:12:15of any government action
00:12:19for saying this, man, you don't know what it
00:12:22meant, what what censorship me? means under Indian
00:12:26law, yeah, under Indian law, under Indian
00:12:30constitution, what censorship really means slight,
00:12:33and my generation remembers it from the emergency
00:12:37years. what do you think the increasing presence of RT in
00:12:41the region? do you think it balances the western
00:12:44media coverage of south asia to a certain
00:12:47extent? first of all,
00:12:50i think RT should drop the use the term south
00:12:53asia, that is. purely a state department
00:12:56coinage, us state department coinage, you should not
00:13:00use, what should RT use then? indian subcontinent or whatever,
00:13:04india, pakistan, bangladesh or whatever, but not the south asia
00:13:08bunk, while RT should do what
00:13:10is right in terms of
00:13:14journalistic ethics and values, i think so long as
00:13:18you avoid driving agenda, it
00:13:22should it should go, mean and and don't fall into this
00:13:26trap, white west media has this preachy
00:13:30pontificating attitude, he doesn't
00:13:33do that, so we know the best on how to run a democracy,
00:13:37we know how best to do this, we know how best to do that,
00:13:41i think this is hate
00:13:43that being preached
00:13:46to, you and i are this
00:13:50is so we don't like being preached to, so i
00:13:54think that would hold. for the masses, so you should
00:13:57avoid that. Narendra Modi's instagram video was taken down
00:14:01after which India summund representatives of meta, of
00:14:05X, of Snapchat, what is going any big tech
00:14:09platform, whether it is YouTube, whether it is
00:14:12Facebook, Instagram,
00:14:16whatever, they enjoy what is
00:14:20called safe harbor protection, that means they are
00:14:23protected from penal
00:14:25action for anything that
00:14:29appears on their platform,
00:14:32provided they have not engineered
00:14:36it, provided they have no role in it.
00:14:39okay, now when the platform intervenes in this
00:14:43manner, this is intervention a country's
00:14:46political process and it is
00:14:50unacceptable, and that is why these platforms were
00:14:53summoned by the parliamentary standing committee which is
00:14:57headed by Nishikant Dube and I think all them came
00:15:01in, they trouped in and they said they were very sorry that this
00:15:04happened, it won't happen again etc. but rightly they have been
00:15:07told sorry, I mean this is violation the safe harbor
00:15:11cluse in in the IT act, you can't just
00:15:15do it and say sorry, and and now I think they have
00:15:18said that Mark Zuckerberg has to has to offer
00:15:22apology, which I think he owes...
00:15:25to the prime minister, exactly, Nishikant Dube saying that Mark
00:15:28Zakkaberg was apology and this was attempt to
00:15:32discredit India, where is this coming from? See, you have
00:15:36to understand, where it's coming from, the
00:15:40whole question is, what prevails? does the
00:15:43law, sovereign law and sovereign rules of
00:15:47India prevail, or do the boardroom
00:15:51rules these big tech companies prevail, so
00:15:55just because Facebook decides that this is acceptable
00:15:59or this is not acceptable, does it mean that the government of
00:16:02India must also accept it? no, okay, it it has to be the
00:16:06other way round. very quick point over here which I would like to
00:16:10make: lot of people, including sadly Indians, think that
00:16:14we have
00:16:16guaranteed absolute
00:16:19free speech in this country, we don't,
00:16:23we don't have free speech, what we have is
00:16:27conditional speech, people who talk about
00:16:29constitutionalism, they wave a copy the
00:16:33constitution and say, "free speech is guaranteed here, please read it."
00:16:37my foot, you haven't read it. the first constitution amendment in
00:16:41this country was done in the most unconstitutional
00:16:44manner, it was done by the constituent assembly, not
00:16:48even by an elected parliament, and it changed
00:16:52Ambedkar's clause of free speech into conditional
00:16:55speech. you're a senior advisor to the Indian ministry of information and
00:16:59broadcasting. we recently saw the Indian prime minister
00:17:03take to Instagram, he recorded that selfie video since
00:17:07the... and we've seen parliamentarians talk in the genzy
00:17:10lingo, what is going on? is
00:17:14is there are two parts to it: one is that you will
00:17:18find many them trying to ape the
00:17:22gensy, which find comical, mean i
00:17:26cannot become a part the genzy crowd, i can i
00:17:30can communicate with them, i can be with them, but i cannot be
00:17:33them, of course okay, that's that's an impossibility.
00:17:38then there are politicians who think that
00:17:40it is good politics to connect with them and we
00:17:44have to connect with them on their terms, i cannot expect them
00:17:48to connect with me on my terms, so
00:17:52then therefore you have the prime minister shooting his own videos,
00:17:56putting it out, i don't know whether he puts it out also, but he definitely shoots
00:18:00it, i know it for fact, he as a smart politician he realizes
00:18:04that he needs to connect with them and he is that an
00:18:07advantage, look man, mean in
00:18:092013 he was using google to
00:18:13hold, what were they called, now google meets
00:18:17or something, so he was doing all this in
00:18:202011, 2012,
00:18:232013 when jenzi was not even in
00:18:27its tappers, so let's not,
00:18:31let's not mock him for it, by
00:18:342029, the next general election elections in
00:18:38India, nearly 30% the voters will
00:18:41be jenzies, isn't Indian politics
00:18:45bound to change because of that, then
00:18:4865% of India's population was
00:18:5265 or 68% was 35 and below, so we are
00:18:55talking of
00:18:56a of demographic profile which was never
00:18:59old, so if if of that
00:19:0368%, say half percentage points at
00:19:06Gen then it's a very good, it's I think it's very good that this
00:19:10churn is happening, that it brings with it a certain
00:19:14freshness, every
00:19:16republic
00:19:19needs
00:19:21regeneration, because
00:19:23otherwise republics decay, I mean history tells
00:19:27us that, so that the best way of
00:19:30regenerating republic of
00:19:33reaffirming nationhood, of...
00:19:37claiming national identity
00:19:41is to have new generations of
00:19:44people who who are open to change, who
00:19:48think differently, so I would be very happy with it. Vladhimir
00:19:52Putin is coming to Delhi in September for the brick summit and this is
00:19:56going to be his second visit in less than year. Each time
00:20:00Mr. Modi and Mr. Puzan are together, their
00:20:03photographed together, the western media has... a
00:20:07meltdown, why? again, you have to see it,
00:20:11because the cold war is over and done with,
00:20:15but that's what we think, but
00:20:19for them the cold war is still on, so you are
00:20:22either with us or you are against us, this kind of a stark
00:20:26choice which they insist on
00:20:29exercising,
00:20:30you know, for instance, the coverage the ukrainian
00:20:34war, not going into the right. or
00:20:37wrongs of it, but the Russia Ukraine conflict or
00:20:41Ukraine Russia conflict, whichever way you want to phrase it is,
00:20:45is not a black and white story as the western media would
00:20:49insist it. is and again there you are either with
00:20:53us or
00:20:53you are with Russia, that kind of choice making, I
00:20:57don't think works anymore, and lot of people may not
00:21:01want to talk about it, they may not want to get entangled
00:21:04with in long debates and discussions over
00:21:08it, but just like
00:21:10you know with China, the world has learned that it's best not to engage
00:21:14a unending debate where you could be debating it till the cows
00:21:18come home ' 'It's best to deal with China the
00:21:22way it is, and you figure out your own way, your own
00:21:25devices to deal with China. So similarly,
00:21:28you know, the world will figure out a way and its own
00:21:32devices to deal with the west,
00:21:35and the white west media at some point
00:21:39or the other will find its influence declining. My
00:21:42last question, both India and Russia, they speak
00:21:46of building a multipolar world, what role?' an
00:21:50information and broadcasting play in turning that
00:21:54vision into reality? think a lot of
00:21:57countries now believe a multipolar
00:22:00world and the south definitely
00:22:04believes in a multipolar world, and
00:22:08this belief has only gained strength and
00:22:11ground after
00:22:14the covid
00:22:17experience when when..." "there was a lot
00:22:21of extreme bias and and and supply
00:22:24chains broke down even
00:22:27multilateralism is now a
00:22:30discount, so what you have instead are
00:22:34not grand global treaties, but working
00:22:38arrangements between some countries, so
00:22:42that is going to gain ground, and the more
00:22:46ground it gains, the stronger will be..."
00:22:51the global demand for a
00:22:54multilateral world and it will make it that much more
00:22:57possible. Kanchan Gupta, what a wonderful conversation I've
00:23:01had with you. Thank you very much for your time,
00:23:03pleasure.
00:23:37I'll look forward to talking to you all, that technology
00:23:41should work for people, robot must
00:23:44obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders with
00:23:48conflict with the first law. show your identification, we should be very careful about
00:23:52artificial intelligence, the point obviously is to
00:23:56create trust - rather than
00:23:58fear. i would like to take on
00:24:02various jobs, mean with artificial intelligence we are summoning the
00:24:04demon.
00:24:12robot must protect its own existence as long
00:24:14existence.
00:25:34Als Teil der Sanktionen gegen Russland gehen die westlichen Länder gegen Russische
00:25:37Auslandsender
00:25:38vor.
00:25:45On est en France quoi c'est pas
00:25:46possible.
00:25:51We will ban in the European Union the Kremlin's
00:25:55media machine. The state owned Russia
00:25:57today. Even our video agency,
00:26:01roughly all. and on
00:26:03youtube et merci à vous
00:26:07tous pour votre fidélité et votre
00:26:08soutien,
00:26:26it's davu all over again, the mou ending the Iran
00:26:29war is tatters at the NATO media. In Ankara, peace
00:26:33with Russia was not on the agenda. Instead, the now familiar
00:26:37agreement Incapable approach has overwhelming
00:26:41sway. It is obvious the West is unable to think
00:26:44strategically. What if
00:26:48everything you think you know is only part the story. Bold
00:26:52economic moves, high stakes battles on the world stage,
00:26:56war and peace, the very future of America.
00:27:00The headlines are loud, the debate. points are fierce,
00:27:04now it's time for closer look, know the policy, understand the
00:27:08impact, America first, the Scotty
00:27:10Navy.
00:28:02ahí sí me tiraron mis cosas por la
00:28:05basura,
00:28:11enite, cuánto 60 y 60, la situación es
00:28:15difícil
00:28:17también va, desarrollamos un un operativo lo largo la franja
00:28:21fronteriza para inhibir pues comisión
00:28:23de delitos, tráfico estupefacientes, tráfico de
00:28:25personas, cartels has the control the
00:28:29borders, me tuve que meter prácticamente. a
00:28:33situaciones ilícitas, tijuana, cualquier esquina está lleno
00:28:37de postes donde hay personas
00:28:38desaparecidas.
00:28:48ban territories, let's go,
00:28:52krinia here in Iran, we've traveled
00:28:55to lugan, and it's happening right here in China. It's
00:28:59actually quite a beautiful day here.
00:29:03ignored stories, i'm listening. thank you so
00:29:07much, so much, really, god bless you, thanks for having me, such beautiful,
00:29:10forbidden questions, i'm asking them, what's a free country? are
00:29:14you worried, are you scared? we look, are you dictator? there's
00:29:18a buzz out there that you would make a great next president the united
00:29:22states, we will show you what they
00:29:32our tv. in the United States and see, I did not know that.
00:29:35That's the Sanchez effect. tens of millions are now
00:29:39watching, and we're just getting
00:29:41started.
00:29:49We kick off the new season of Inland Visions from El Bruce,
00:29:53the roof of Russia, where every step and view takes your breath
00:29:57away, so join us as we take the show to new
00:30:00heights.
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