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00:00:25he is eager to seize
00:00:26of upon any
00:00:27of words, initiatives or ideas entering the public. discourse
00:00:31so he can push for some breathing room, while Russia's foreign
00:00:34minister dismisses Zeljanskire calls as a apply to regroup
00:00:38Kief's forces, the Kremlin says Vladimir Putin would be ready to hold
00:00:42strikes on Ukrain if it genuinely intends to
00:00:45of hold an election.
00:00:48of The Europeans have given the Russians more
00:00:52money, they have since the started this war then they have given the
00:00:55Ukrainians because they cannot win themselves off Russian
00:00:59energy. Washington blasts the EU's hypocrisy
00:01:03over Russian energy imports as
00:01:04of German opposition officials demand their own Trump style diesel deal
00:01:08with Moscow. It is about ending the sanctions against
00:01:12Russia, about building the capacity for peace rather than military
00:01:16of readiness. The huti's strike Riyad's main international
00:01:20airport three days in a row, killing more than dozen people
00:01:24and
00:01:24in wounding over
00:01:26of 300.
00:01:34It's a busy Monday here at RT International, my name is
00:01:37of Egor Piskunov, welcome to the program. Zelanski will do
00:01:41anything to buy a time to regroup Ukraine's forces, that's the main goal
00:01:44of the constant push for a cease fire from Kieve. And this is according to
00:01:48Russia's foreign minister Sergio Lavroff in comments about a truth deal
00:01:52recently suggested by the
00:01:54of United States. In
00:01:58recent months, the call for a ceasefire. has replaced the call for inflicting
00:02:02a strategic defeat on Russia in the rhetoric of both
00:02:05Zelensky and his western masters. The goal is
00:02:08singular and very simple, to buy time. He has even said he
00:02:12is willing to hold a presidential election, provided he is given two
00:02:16months to regroup. During that period, Europe could flood him with new
00:02:20weaponry to continue his terrorist war against the Russian
00:02:23people. He is eager to seize upon any words, initiatives
00:02:27or ideas entering the public discourse. so he can push for some
00:02:31breathing room. I do not believe
00:02:33he has earned such
00:02:34a respit, nor do I think we will once again fall for assurances or
00:02:38promises. The president has stated this very clearly. We
00:02:41continue to pursue the objectives
00:02:43of the special military operation. These objectives are well-known
00:02:47to everyone. We have never altered them,
00:02:50of unlike the zigzags and evasions of Zelensky and
00:02:53of his European masters. The Kremlin has once
00:02:57again stressed that a temporary truth is not an option.
00:03:00of
00:03:08The question was raised regarding Zelensky's statement that he needs 60 days to
00:03:12hold elections. Here I have already stated that we do not need a
00:03:16true, we need a sustainable peace at lasts for many future
00:03:19generations. It is quite obvious that they truly do not want to hold
00:03:23elections in. These 60 days of truce are not needed for
00:03:27elections, but rather to gather strength.
00:03:38will be prepared to issue an order not to strike Ukraine on the day
00:03:41of the elections, specifically on the day
00:03:43of the elections. This is the second time
00:03:47in mere
00:03:48of weeks that we've heard Donald Trump
00:03:50a come out and declare an energy cease fire between
00:03:54Russia and Ukraine. This time, as last
00:03:57of time, Zelensky coming out within minutes. comment and saying
00:04:01of that, well, this is the first time he's heard of it, saying that if
00:04:05Russia and the United States had agreed on an LGC fire, well,
00:04:09please inform Ukraine, and that Ukraine would be
00:04:12willing
00:04:13in to join in, now that is a far cry from what we heard
00:04:17last time when
00:04:18of Zelensky put forward a slew of precondition saying that Russia
00:04:22would also have to hold hold strikes on Ukrainian logistics
00:04:26and also hold strikes on Ukrainian shipping after.
00:04:30Zelensky himself ordered his military to begin
00:04:32targeting Russian shipping, nevertheless, Donald
00:04:36Trump coming out and saying that, well perhaps it's it's time for
00:04:40new leader has certainly made Zelensky more
00:04:44pliable should have never started, you wouldn't have lost 30% of
00:04:48your country already, you've lost
00:04:50of 30% of your country and you've had over million
00:04:54people killed, but he could have settled it many times and he chose not
00:04:58to, that's a war that should have.
00:05:12election simply couldn't be held in Ukraine, but simply too many
00:05:16people had left, that too many people had now become Russian
00:05:20citizens living across the donbas and Zaparoja region
00:05:24in Hirson region, suddenly elections are
00:05:27again possible, please tell Putin,
00:05:31give us two months, 60 days
00:05:34of total seas fire, 60 days and we will
00:05:38organize elections, of course we will be ready. for
00:05:42any choice of our people, exactly Ukrainian
00:05:46people,
00:05:47and that is exactly what Russia has been
00:05:50referring to, and perhaps even Donald Trump himself, saying
00:05:54that every deal that they put forward to Zelensky, every
00:05:58offer is rejected on the basis that
00:06:01Zelensky puts forward counter
00:06:05demands that make any deal impossible. In this
00:06:08case, two-month seizfire for Zelensky to organize.
00:06:13elections, something that Russia had previously said it
00:06:16would simply be unable to accept, because those
00:06:20two months would be used by Ukraine to
00:06:24show up its military to rearm, retrain its troops and
00:06:28Ukraine would be flooded uh pumped to the
00:06:32teeth with weapons, with munitions, with
00:06:35drones, with rockets and missiles for
00:06:39round two, Russia said that it managed to
00:06:43organize elections uh during the
00:06:46conflict, indeed Ukraine launched its biggest attack on
00:06:50Moscow during those September parliamentary elections
00:06:53in Russia, nevertheless the elections were successful and
00:06:57so could Ukraine. Nevertheless that is
00:07:01uh Zelensky's style to put forward conditions which
00:07:05make simply any deal impossible.
00:07:08Zelensky even felt confident enough to accuse.
00:07:12Trump multiple times of being weak for
00:07:16engaging with Russia. He called the
00:07:20president week, two days ago and bombed oil refineries moments after the
00:07:24president announced a deal with Russia. Let's stop pretending that he's a good
00:07:28ally. Now Zelensky's complaint is
00:07:31that it's him rather than Putin that
00:07:35Donald Trump is pressuring that
00:07:38again uh the the American president is this.
00:07:43weakness according to Zelensky by pressuring
00:07:47Zelensky. This is, the same Zelensky that has put
00:07:51Ukraine on the hook of Europe and the United
00:07:55States. Almost all those rockets and munition shells
00:07:58coming into Ukraine are from the United
00:08:02States paid for by Europeans, so of course
00:08:05there's a pressure mechanism on Zelensky, whereas
00:08:09Russia isn't dependent on the United States. or Europe
00:08:13for anything, nevertheless Zelensky believes it is
00:08:16he personally who is the victim, why are
00:08:20they blaming you for the continuation of
00:08:23this war? because these
00:08:27people can't find a key how to
00:08:31stop Putin, because it's
00:08:35more difficult to stop
00:08:39Putin than to pressure others. Nevertheless. Yes,
00:08:42now Zelensky much less defined than he had
00:08:46been previously. There are also now reports that the Ukrainian
00:08:50negotiation team in the United States in Miami for
00:08:54talks was threatened by the American side with cut
00:08:58in unitian supplies. If Ukraine persisted
00:09:02in strikes on Russian oil refineries for little
00:09:05background. Russia before this conflict supplied more than
00:09:0910% the world's oil export. It
00:09:13supplied more than 20% of global natural
00:09:17gas export,
00:09:18there was a huge quantity is that even if
00:09:22the conflict in the middle east hadn't broken out and cut supplies, from
00:09:26there
00:09:27uh a shortage of Russian supplies would be felt in every country in
00:09:31the world, the United States is on the eve of elections, it is
00:09:35often said that Americans vote at the pump and incredibly
00:09:38reliant on cheap fuel now that the...
00:09:42United States and Russia had made deal to supply diesel, to
00:09:46supply also uh uh raw
00:09:49oil, the Ukrainian side, Zelensky coming out and
00:09:53saying he would continue to burn Russian oil
00:09:56refineries is insulting of course for Donald Trump
00:10:00himself, but it seems that this time
00:10:04after second round, the worst falling out between
00:10:07Zelensky and Donald Trump since early
00:10:112025. Zelensky has become more
00:10:15pliable, and for more on this, let's
00:10:19cross live now to political risk consultant and lawyer Adrielle
00:10:22Casanta, welcome to the program, sir. so Russia's foreign
00:10:26minister says Zelensky is bent on promoting himself and
00:10:30his own goals to the detriment the Ukrainian people. What do you think
00:10:34about that statement? uh, well, I completely agree with that
00:10:38statement, because the recent reaction, the
00:10:41outburs of anger from the
00:10:44Ukrainian leader, after the quite
00:10:48historical words coming from the mouth the
00:10:51President the United States Donald Trump, that the...
00:10:55democratic election should be um uh put in place
00:10:59in in Ukraine because the current leader is not serving his
00:11:03nation and the um its
00:11:06resondert uh rightfully um
00:11:10so basically um Mr. Zelinski is putting everything
00:11:14into one basket so basically she's he's playing a Russian
00:11:18rule quite simply put it uh because he's
00:11:21betting on uh uh democrats coming to power.
00:11:25after the midterms elections uh related to
00:11:28dispopularity uh the Donald Trump in the United States due to
00:11:32his um unnecessary conflict with Iran, so
00:11:36uh uh basically the
00:11:37uh uh
00:11:39the uh uh the thinking in Brussels and both in in
00:11:42in in Kiev and Brussels is that once the democrats will uh take the
00:11:45majority in the United States, the uh the previous
00:11:49scenario which is continuation of maximum pressure
00:11:53on Russia and supplying.
00:11:58money and weapons will continue, so I think
00:12:01that this
00:12:02is the one way street um for for Mr. Zelinski,
00:12:06because maybe even if the democrats will come to power
00:12:09still the Donald Trump is a president and has a
00:12:12significant influence over the foreign policy of his
00:12:16own uh country, so I i think that making an enemies
00:12:20both with Russia and United States who is the main
00:12:23sponsor, who has been the main sponsor of this unnecessary conflict uh
00:12:27is very dangerous uh a game plan from Mr. Zelinski in
00:12:31his political circle and Donald Trump also insists
00:12:34that uh Moscow and Kiev are agreeing to stop striking energy
00:12:38infrastructure but this is a mid the new deal for Russia to supply
00:12:42diesel fuel to the US of course meanwhile Zelensky
00:12:46frankly doesn't appear eager to honor the agreement. Are we about to witness Kief
00:12:50risking its ties with the US in order to keep attacking
00:12:53Russia? "uh, indeed, I think that he's not
00:12:57risking, he already risk his uh um relationship
00:13:01with United States, because uh, I think that still it is very
00:13:05foolish from any leader in the world scene
00:13:09uh to um uh to go uh uh publicly against
00:13:13the uh verbally
00:13:14and publicly against the leader the United States uh so I think that he
00:13:17cross rubicon with this
00:13:21regard, but Mr. Donald Trump, whether it is a..."
00:13:26his genius as a president or maybe
00:13:30some kind of luck, he's trying to kill two
00:13:34two birds with one stone, because we have to bear in mind that the conversation
00:13:38with - President Vladimir Putin was related to Ukraine,
00:13:42but also to Iran, and I think that Mr. Donald Trump is trying
00:13:45to somehow solve the problem, energy crisis by
00:13:49including Russia in the uh uh energy
00:13:53supply
00:13:54um and the global global market and also wanting
00:13:58Mr. Mr. Vladimir Putin to somehow mediate and help
00:14:02United States to save uh their face
00:14:06and and and somehow um bring the conflict with Iran to the
00:14:10end in the in the best possible way that it can
00:14:14be finished at that point of this
00:14:17unnecessary conflict being protracting for for many weeks and months
00:14:21so I think that here we can see a big boys talking about geopolitic.
00:14:25and and and and
00:14:26and and Europe is trying to to somehow
00:14:30bring and and and and keep united states committing
00:14:34itself to this uh unnecessary conflict in eastern Europe
00:14:38which should be resolved. let's talk about uh Washington's
00:14:42leverage over Kiev some more because there have been reports
00:14:45suggesting the US might stop intelligence
00:14:49sharing and refrain from providing starlink internet to
00:14:52Ukraine uh what else could be at stake? here do you
00:14:55think? well, i think that the main the main
00:14:59objectives when it comes to - big
00:15:02strategy of united states has been accomplished, so uh united
00:15:06states doesn't see itself any longer needed
00:15:10to to be part of this conflict, mean they have they secured the mineral deal
00:15:14with with Ukraine, they um uh provided
00:15:18multiple lawns that soon or later will have to
00:15:21be paid back in one way or another.
00:15:25Uh, and also we've heard recently that
00:15:28certain ideas related to sharing the
00:15:32uh uh uh burden of of of
00:15:33northstream um reactivation.
00:15:37between Germany and Russia and United States also uh being on the
00:15:41table, so I think that United States can uh simply
00:15:45put it switch the light, in other words, the
00:15:49supply of weapons and and and and money to to Ukraine, and then
00:15:52Europe will be in the situation
00:15:56where they will have to either uh come up terms with
00:15:59the reality that the United States want to make business with Russia and
00:16:03they most certainly will not go to war with - another nuclear.
00:16:07power or they will try to
00:16:11play play their hand until the very end of our continent and possibly
00:16:15the entire globe and and and and try to
00:16:19somehow start some false flag
00:16:22event in Europe and betting on the
00:16:25goodwill the United States and and and and and and using the
00:16:29sacrosanct article 5 which is not going to happen because we
00:16:33recently heard from Poland that there was some information about the
00:16:36potential assassination attempts on prime minister and the minister of
00:16:40defense, I mean these are clearly some kind of
00:16:43doji news coming from from from
00:16:47from from this eastern borderlands countries uh
00:16:50which hugely uh benefit from the ongoing
00:16:54conflict in Ukraine, first firstly demographically because lot of Ukrainian
00:16:58people uh somehow uh uh emigrated to Poland
00:17:02and other countries um the European Union and they
00:17:05somehow improved the... uh demographic statistics and on the other
00:17:09hand they also want to uh be seen as
00:17:13the main road roads and hubs for
00:17:17military industrial complex of united states because it also the
00:17:21economic incentives are also following by being a hub
00:17:25for for for weapon supply to Ukraine so lot of
00:17:28people have clear interest in in in in seeing this this this
00:17:32conflict protracting but United States
00:17:35visibly doesn't have the... resources and the
00:17:38strategic will or need to continue
00:17:42its presence in in this unnecessary conflict with Russia, so Europe
00:17:46has two choices, either meet the reality and and and
00:17:50follow follow the example of United States or
00:17:53- god forbid try
00:17:57to play the Russian rule and try escalate some
00:18:00potential conflict with Russia which would be devastate
00:18:04devastating for the entire continent uh potentially
00:18:08entire globe all right, hopefully they'll choose the
00:18:12first variant, adanta political risk consultant and lawyer, i
00:18:15appreciate you taking the time and sharing your thoughts with us on this,
00:18:19thank you for having me. oil prices have
00:18:23fallen on expectations of increased russian supplies, although
00:18:26quote quotes still remain above $100, as part
00:18:30the US russian diesel agreement, moscow will supply more than
00:18:33300 thous tons of diesel to american and global.
00:18:37markets followed by a further half million tons in
00:18:40November, and according to President Trump, additional 1 million
00:18:44tons will be delivered immediately thereafter, with another 3
00:18:48million tons to follow depending on the condition of Russia's
00:18:52refineries. US treasury secretary Scott Bessent has
00:18:56accused European leaders of hypocrisy. This in response to
00:18:59the EU foreign policy chief speaking out against Washington's energy deal
00:19:03with Moscow. The Europeans have.
00:19:07given the Russians more money, they since the started this
00:19:11war then they have given the Ukrainians, because they cannot win themselves
00:19:15off Russian energy. They had a failed energy
00:19:19policy, and Vladimir Putin, the they
00:19:22continue to fund him, so for them to say that
00:19:26we cannot have respit in diesel pricing
00:19:30is completely hypocritical. Vladimir
00:19:33Zelansky has been stepping up his efforts to secure additional.
00:19:37support by reaching out to leaders across Europe, and this comes amid
00:19:41Trump's latest statements about the Ukrainian politician and the need
00:19:45for elections in Ukraine. He has spoken with the heads of state from
00:19:48France, the UK and Poland attempts to get their
00:19:52backing. And some the
00:19:56same countries that Zelensky has appealed to, clearly have not
00:20:00benefited from breaking up trade relations with Russia, at least according to
00:20:04data. In the UK, the fuel crisis. brought on
00:20:08by sanctions on Russian energy has cost its economy and
00:20:11estimated 183 billion
00:20:15pounds over four years, including higher household,
00:20:18electricity and heating bills. in France, the government's
00:20:22energy tariff shield has helped minimize the
00:20:25impact on consumers, with the bank de frances estimating its
00:20:29fiscal cost at around 2.2% of GDP over
00:20:332022 and 2023, and in
00:20:36Germany, Economic losses linked to mitigating the energy
00:20:40crisis are estimated to have exceeded 50
00:20:43billion euros. Claudia widing, a German opposition politician
00:20:47from the BSW party argues. that restricting
00:20:51trade with Russia has only hurt Europeans
00:20:54and European consumers, particularly in
00:20:58Germany. In that
00:21:02sense, I see no major contradiction acknowledging that peace negotiations with
00:21:05Russia are not within the powers of a state government. In this motion, we call
00:21:09on the federal government to use every means its disposal, including an
00:21:14that diplomacy initiative once
00:21:15ensure again to takes priority, that the focus
00:21:19returns to neg.
00:21:19Instead,
00:21:30they have seriously damaged the economy. After
00:21:33the inaugural session the German saxont
00:21:37State Parliament, opposition parties AFD and BSW plan to
00:21:41introduce their first joint draft resolution. The proposal
00:21:44calls on the parliament to declare that sanctions against Russia as well as
00:21:48military and financial support. for Ukraine have failed, we
00:21:52spoke with law makers from both parties to understand the motivations
00:21:56driving this initiative. On the
00:21:59one hand, they claim that Ukraine can defeat Russia, on the other, they claim
00:22:03that Russia is about to attack NATO. Neither these narratives is internally
00:22:07consistent, and it is our task including from within parliament, to
00:22:11refocus attention on the fact that these issues are being discussed a completely
00:22:14misguided way, and we are also showing here in Saxanhal that a
00:22:18political shift has taken. place and that the majority of people in the state have
00:22:22voted for parties
00:22:23that do not want
00:22:24to continue pursuing this course. for the BSW, one the central
00:22:27issues throughout our election campaign was the genuine and consistent implementation of a
00:22:31peace policy, and we also know from surveys that the majority of AFD
00:22:35voters w precisely the same thing. an end to this war mongering and
00:22:39escalation, so what we see here and
00:22:41what our motion demonstrates is that a large majority the population has come out
00:22:45in favor of ending this course. we want
00:22:49to spark debate about the war with this motion, we want this motion to help
00:22:53bring an end to the deaths on both the Russian and Ukrainian sides,
00:22:57so that young people no longer die in the war. We want to end the sanctions against
00:23:01Russia here, because these sanctions affect the German and Russian populations
00:23:05more than they affect politicians, and that is why this motion is so
00:23:08important. It is about ending the sanctions against Russia, about building the
00:23:12capacity for peace rather than military readiness. Chancellor Murz said that we
00:23:16must become ready for war, no, we must become committed to peace. peace
00:23:20in the world, that is why it
00:23:21is so important to initiate this debate and revive it here in
00:23:25Germany, so that the war can be brought to an end through
00:23:28diplomacy. If you want to know more
00:23:31about what lies behind the diesel deal between Moscow and
00:23:35Washington, and whether
00:23:36it can be a turning point in the conflict, head to our website,
00:23:39sarg.com for more in-depth
00:23:42analysis.
00:23:46Saudi Arabia has issued urgent alerts for civilians in a
00:23:50southern part the country near the border with Yemen, and this is after
00:23:54houti missile attack on the city of Abha. Reports say
00:23:58Saudi air defenses managed to intercept an incoming ballistic missile, and
00:24:01this video shows plooms of smoke that could be seen arising
00:24:05from the apparent impact points in the city. The Yemeni Khuthis have been
00:24:09launching projectiles across the border into Saudi Arabia as the
00:24:13two countries engaged in increasingly volatile
00:24:16conflict. And there was uh
00:24:20devastating attack by the Yemani Hufis on Riyad's main international
00:24:24airport on Saturday. The death toll from that strike has now risen to
00:24:2713 after an Indian national succumbed to his
00:24:30injuries. The Yemenihuthies struck the airport in the Saudi
00:24:34capital several times over the past week. This CCTV
00:24:38footage shows Saturday's attack which was the most
00:24:41devastating. Authorities say total of 17 people have been killed
00:24:45and more than 300 wounded. Houti spokesperson
00:24:49Mohammed. said it carried out the attacks in
00:24:53retaliation for Saudi
00:24:54aggression.
00:25:32These attacks are Yemeni attacks. We do not do this out of revenge or to take
00:25:36vengeance, but rather to force the Saudi leadership to accept a comprehensive and
00:25:40permanent peace by agreeing to end the war. When
00:25:44asked about the conflict, Donald Trump said it could be possible that the Americans
00:25:48could join in the fight to support. their ally Saudi Arabia, our
00:25:51correspondent Muhammad has the
00:25:53story. There are heavy casualties from
00:25:57Huty attacks on King Khalid International Airport in Riyad. The death toll is
00:26:01expected to. continue to rise with many wounded among Saudi citizens and
00:26:05foreigners. The coalition views these attacks as the beginning of a full-scale war and
00:26:09heinous act that is contrary to generally accepted values and moral
00:26:12standards. The response will be fierce and in accordance with the norms of
00:26:16international humanitarian law, amaid international condemnation,
00:26:20Islamabad reaffirms its position under the Mecca defense agreement as well
00:26:24as its commitments to ensuring the kingdom security and sovereignty. Statements
00:26:28by the US president regarding the possibility of strikes against the hoothies open up
00:26:32the... prospect of definitive resolution to the Yemen crisis. The
00:26:35kingdom declares that the hoothi strikes constitute an act of terrorism that
00:26:39runs counter to moral principles and humanitarian values against
00:26:43this backdrop. Saudi Arabia is garnering international Islamic and Arab
00:26:47support for its position and the measures it is taking safeguard its
00:26:51sovereignty and security. The coalition is threatening decisive
00:26:54response by invoking the collective deterrence mechanism under the Mecca
00:26:58pact. Amid the prospect of US intervention, the standoff with the
00:27:01hoothies. is approaching a dangerous turning point. the key question is
00:27:05how far the conflict will expand and whether new actors from outside Yemen and
00:27:09Saudi Arabia will become involved. we spoke
00:27:13with the Saudi political researcher and he believes that
00:27:16Washington has already been drawn into the
00:27:19conflict. the US is enforced
00:27:22already by providing intelligence
00:27:26and cooperate in many
00:27:28matters, security
00:27:31matters. also by providing what
00:27:34saudi forces needed for equipment and
00:27:37amunition. what you are talking about is
00:27:40whether the united states will help
00:27:44in attacking this
00:27:48sources of fire and whether they will
00:27:52support directly the yemeny government, well that's
00:27:56a matter to be considered and according to Trump he didn't
00:28:00decided yet, but a country as fast as
00:28:04Saudi Arabia, so many cities, so
00:28:07many oil installation, so many ports, we have
00:28:1028 airports in Saudi Arabia, so
00:28:14protecting this much land and this
00:28:17much facilities will
00:28:20require lots of investment, lots of
00:28:23work, and I believe they are working on this, the other
00:28:27side is getting improved
00:28:30abilities like, the new missiles they
00:28:34are using against Saudi Arabia, they have all
00:28:38the the fingerprints of
00:28:41Iran on on that, and they have also
00:28:45Iranian expert and Lebanese and
00:28:48others helping them to do that, so let us wait and
00:28:52see, but I expect Saudi Arabia to improve its
00:28:56facility as well to respond to all this new
00:28:59development. This is our team. I'm bringing you
00:29:03news and analysis from across the globe. Thanks for staying
00:29:06with us.
00:29:46I'm Ashshan, welcome back to going underground broadcast single around the world from the
00:29:50UAE on the anniversary the European Union winning the Nobel Peace
00:29:53Prize. Today leaders from that grouping which
00:29:56is armed genocide in Gaza meet at something called the
00:29:59Warsaw Security Forum. Speakers will have. ly call for the
00:30:03destruction the Russian Federation, not just Ukrainian dictator
00:30:06Zelensky who has been given long-range missiles by Britain and
00:30:10Intel from the CIA to kill civilians in Russia. It's also four
00:30:14years today that 143 out of 193 UN general
00:30:18assembly member states voted to condemn Russia for referendums in the
00:30:22Donbas, Carson and Zaparia. Democracy in the economies of western
00:30:26European states that did so are now in chaos as uprisings rage
00:30:30in Spain and France. Joining me again is someone. Who was recently at
00:30:33the latest UN General Assembly in New York, he has
00:30:36tirelessly fought for the war in Europe to end, before
00:30:40the 24th February 2022, he advised US officials to
00:30:44publicly admit Ukraine would not be permitted NATO membership. Professor Jeffrey
00:30:48Sax is the director of Columbia University's center for sustainable development,
00:30:52president the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network and former advisor to UN
00:30:56secretaries general, General Kofianan, Banki Moon and Antonio.