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00:00:00or be it attacks against you know
00:00:01in infrastructure inside Russia and that would be interesting to see if they choose
00:00:05that that sort of course of events if they choose the latter then well Trump has
00:00:09quite a few quite a few means to apply
00:00:12of pressure and to
00:00:13of punish uh anyone well in Ukraine for
00:00:15a in Ukraine and Europe for disobedience starting with the most obvious options
00:00:19like cutting intelligence sharing and switching off the starlink you
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00:01:06Welcome to Crosstock Bullhorns where all things are considered on Peter Level. With
00:01:10Ukraine on the ropes and its infrastructure being destroyed, the American
00:01:13administration makes an energy deal with Russia. Meanwhile,
00:01:17NATO Brass gathers in Kiev to assess the damage they have brought
00:01:21about. Also, can the Mecca defense Alliance
00:01:24of save the House of Saad? Is new order coming about in the Middle
00:01:28East? To discuss these. issues and more, I'm joined by my guest
00:01:32George Samueli in Budapest, he's a podcast for the gaggle, which be found on YouTube in
00:01:36Locals and here in Moscow, we cross to Mark Laboda, he's an international
00:01:39relations and security analyst. All right, gentlemen, crossstock
00:01:43of rules and effect, that means you can jump any time you want, and I always appreciate it. All right, let's
00:01:46kick it off with Mark here in Moscow, um, let's start with the breaking
00:01:50news, um, an energy deal to bring
00:01:54of Russian diesel to the United States has been
00:01:57of announced, um, the shagrin
00:01:58of the Ukrainian. and Europeans is obvious, it
00:02:02is
00:02:03in a major
00:02:05of of reversal of sorts, um, if anything it's a campaign gimic uh, it will
00:02:09have any kind of impact on diesel prices
00:02:13worldwide or in the United States remains to be unseen, by
00:02:17my estimation, looking at the numbers, maximum, I
00:02:20mean going
00:02:21of into next year, would basically cover about
00:02:25of nine days of US consumption, now maybe on the
00:02:28margins it might help, It's not a solution, the solution is dam
00:02:32of this conflict, but that's where we are, Mark, your thoughts
00:02:35here, yeah, so obviously this deal has been
00:02:38of in the works for some time, um, after the CIA
00:02:42director
00:02:44of Daniel came to Moscow with threats, it was followed
00:02:48up by the Chuckle Brothers of Whitkov and
00:02:51Kushner who came to Moscow and uh asked for
00:02:55an energy
00:02:57ce a cease fire and Russia said no, and then... well how about an
00:03:00energy cease fire and Russia said no,
00:03:03in well how about letting some debel diesel onto the global
00:03:06markets, that that would play well with Trump's voters back
00:03:10home, and uh, Putin said, tell me
00:03:13more, um, so that appears to be what
00:03:17of has happened.
00:03:18in Trump is primarily concerned here with his political survival
00:03:21in the US, going into these mid-term elections. If the
00:03:25of democrats win, he could be facing impeachment battles for the next two
00:03:29years of his. administration and he's rightly terrified
00:03:33of that, so um, he needs
00:03:36of to ameliate,
00:03:38of or at least appear to amuliorate the sharp rise
00:03:42in diesel prices in the US, which is leading to
00:03:45prices of general inflation across the US
00:03:49economy, of course, Europe is being hit even harder
00:03:52of by all of this, um, and Russia historically,
00:03:57of and in fact earlier this year, was still the second. largest
00:04:00exporter of diesel to the world, but because of
00:04:04kiev regime CIA attacks on Russia's oil
00:04:08refineries, Russia felt the need
00:04:11to ban exports of diesel
00:04:15of for several months to make sure they had enough for their own domestic
00:04:18uses going into harvest season and of course for the special
00:04:22military operation, but
00:04:25now uh with Trump's request that
00:04:29of Putin has se to Russia has agreed to
00:04:31of partially lift that
00:04:33of ban. of I agree, it's most of this, diesel is not going
00:04:37to go to the US, it's going to be released to the global markets,
00:04:40this is for optics, this is for
00:04:41optics, but what's the
00:04:45quid pro, what did what did the Russians get out of it, George?
00:04:49Well, it's very hard to say, I mean, I, I think one
00:04:52obvious uh, win for the Russians is
00:04:56Trump's real fury and uh director.
00:05:00first to against Ukraine in
00:05:04of of general and Zelensky in particular, but also against the Europeans, because exactly are
00:05:08looking really very foolish, uh,
00:05:10you know, they say sanction, sanction got to... put more pressure on
00:05:14Putin, you
00:05:15no, it's the only way we can get Putin on the negotiating table and so on. I
00:05:18remember just few weeks ago they were all rejoicing
00:05:22over the uh the passage the Lindsay sanctions
00:05:26bill, well this kind of makes that
00:05:29look absurd, so that I think is very much a
00:05:33part of it, in other words with um if Zelensky
00:05:37immediately announced that he will continue to
00:05:40attack refineries. "now it was clear during the
00:05:44meeting that Zelensky and the Europeans had had in
00:05:48Miami with Kuschner and
00:05:51Witkov is that they Zelensky was
00:05:55told don't hit refineries and and and and
00:05:59Trump then said this, we've said that we've told Zelensky over and over
00:06:02again, don't hit the refiners, six times, George, I think
00:06:06six times, six times and and then yes of course it is
00:06:10true that it was Trump who initiated." thought this would be a
00:06:14wizard idea to hit refineries in Russia, that was back in
00:06:172025, he he he was
00:06:19the he personally gave the go ahead, but now he he he needs
00:06:23some kind of a break. now the real question, what do the Russians get out of it? well,
00:06:27if this antagonism between the US and
00:06:31Ukraine continues, then they may get something
00:06:35out of this,
00:06:35that that I mean that is that this is a little different from what happened
00:06:38in February of 2025 following that.
00:06:43over office meeting, this time that Trump is his back is
00:06:47against the wall, then he was kind of exuberent returning
00:06:51to office, his back is against the wall, he may actually, at
00:06:55least that's the Russian calculation, he may decide finally to bring
00:06:59this thing to an end, and and the key
00:07:02part, end the intelligence sharing with Ukraine, that is,
00:07:06that came up, that came up in the meetings a threat to
00:07:09Zelensky, knock it off, all the...
00:07:13be any intelligence sharing, my take, Mark,
00:07:15at the end the day is the number one, the Ukrainians are
00:07:19humiliated, the Europeans are
00:07:22humiliated, and the administ American administration is
00:07:25humiliated, because can Donald Trump tell CIA
00:07:29to stop helping the Ukrainians, it looks like me like
00:07:33there's there's only one winner on all of this, and I don't
00:07:37know, according to some reports and we are living in the fog of
00:07:41war of so much fake. news right now, a tanker already suddenly arrived in
00:07:45the United States,
00:07:45I don't know if that's true, but I tend to think by this time next week
00:07:49we're not even going to be talking about this, Mark. Yeah, the
00:07:53whole thing smacks of rather maliforous political
00:07:57theater to me, and for exactly the reasons you pointed
00:08:01out, because if Trump is really
00:08:05furious, over continued
00:08:08you, low level, but but still annoying attacks.
00:08:12Russia's oil refineries, including one on Rostof Nadano
00:08:16since uh this um uh deal was
00:08:20announced, he ought to be furious at Trump,
00:08:23because the the K regime simply it lacks the military and
00:08:27technical capabilities to carry out these attacks without
00:08:31active CIA help, and we know that because the CIA under
00:08:35Trump has bragged about it on the front pages the New York Times and the
00:08:39Washington Post on multiple occasions about how
00:08:42they are not only providing intelligence, but directing
00:08:46these attacks down to the point of directing which
00:08:50part the refineries the drones attack to cause
00:08:54the maximum amount of downtime before Russians uh
00:08:58repair it, so I i think Trump ought to really be
00:09:02furious at himself, or at least at his director the
00:09:05CIA, and you raise the question, does Trump
00:09:09actually have power within the... united states
00:09:13government to change us for
00:09:15he did in his first administration, we all know that and it's well
00:09:18documented, you know george, another story that
00:09:22didn't get in much much air time because there's so much going on right
00:09:26now, but um the military heads
00:09:29of every single NATO country, i don't know if the us
00:09:32participateduh went went to kiev, what would they talk
00:09:36about, mean this is like four and a half, almost five years in,
00:09:39mean wouldn't you think they'd do that in the beginning the? conflict
00:09:43and what expertise do any these
00:09:46generals have in fighting a war? i don't think
00:09:50anything right now, mean what a waste of taxpayer
00:09:53money, which is probably the calling card of this entire conflict in the west,
00:09:57george, well i think they're trying to express
00:10:01solidarity, mean that's what
00:10:04that does, yeah that's all
00:10:08they do, and of course that's how the
00:10:10european - responded to Trump's
00:10:14announcement the the diesel deal,
00:10:18enraged comments from Andy Burnham
00:10:22from from the EU, Kaya Halas. and
00:10:25said, well, their responses, we're going even intensify the
00:10:29sanctions, we're going to meet on Monday and we're going to you, hit
00:10:33Russia with the harshest sanctions ever, every every sanction
00:10:37package is the harshest ever, so it's all of
00:10:40this is is expecial solidarity, but to go going back to Mark's
00:10:44point,
00:10:45I i think that is very good question, how much control does
00:10:49Trump have over his own administration, he says over and over
00:10:53again, and he's been saying it for a long time, no strikes on
00:10:55refineries and then they continue, i would assume trump
00:10:59does want to stop the attacks on refineries because the diesel
00:11:03prices are hurting him, mean no question, they are really
00:11:06hurting america's farmers, he says he says this in
00:11:10truth the truth, our farmers and ranches are are
00:11:14in pain, so therefore you assume he wants this
00:11:17stop, but he obviously he doesn't have the power to do so, or
00:11:21he may be afraid, he may be afraid of '
00:11:25buying um the the the the hidden state or
00:11:29the the deep state because otherwise you
00:11:31know
00:11:33mean it is case if you want to stop these refineries you have to get Radciff
00:11:37into your office and tell him don't do it or you're fired
00:11:40but trump doesn't want to do that yeah mark mean if
00:11:44if uh the united states and and Russia can come to deal
00:11:48on diesel why can't they come to deal on other things i
00:11:51mean there's a precedent here right now
00:11:55I mean, I thought this war was supposed to be over before Trump was
00:11:58inaugurated for the second time. I mean, it it, it just,
00:12:02it just shows an enormous inability of leadership, Mark.
00:12:06Yeah, I, I don't, I think actually the US president always has
00:12:09very limited bandwith agency
00:12:13and power over US foreign and military policy. It's largely
00:12:17written in the orthodoxy the institutions
00:12:21that comprise the US government. If you don't
00:12:23want to call it the deep state, you want
00:12:24to call it. the blob as ben roads did or the purement of
00:12:28bureaucracy, that's fine, but at the end the day John Bolton
00:12:32was very clear about how Trump is manipulated and
00:12:35controlled on such things in his memoirs of his time in the first
00:12:39administration, you come and you present set of policy
00:12:43options that aren't really very different from each other, and you say
00:12:47you choose ABC and D, none the above is not an
00:12:51option, and that's that's the way you control, let's face it.
00:12:55rather ignorant president uh in particular uh who gets his
00:12:59news from Fox News uh like Donald Trump, but as for the NATO
00:13:03generals, their big expertise is as dogs
00:13:07uh, they are there as a symbolic to urinate and
00:13:10mark over Ukraine as their territory, we
00:13:14flipped this country in 2014 and you're not going to get
00:13:18it back, they said immediately after the Russian foreign
00:13:21ministry
00:13:24um um put out de declaration for the second time that
00:13:27western and well all foreign diplomatic missions should leave Kiev
00:13:31because it's no longer safe, that was their show of defiance and
00:13:35symbolic support that Ukraine is de facto NATO
00:13:38territory, but we'll see about that. And
00:13:42George, to finish up on this topic, um, there's no
00:13:46denying that Ukraine is being pumbled right
00:13:49now, night after night after night. Again, I why did these NATO
00:13:53generals code there, I mean? um, they can
00:13:57call it theirs, but they can't defend it, I mean it, it's a force
00:14:01on so many different levels, finish up, Mark, George, go
00:14:04ahead, but
00:14:05it is being pummaled, and you would think the the rational thing
00:14:09to do would be bring this thing to an end, um,
00:14:13because it is Ukrainians who are getting killed, but that's not the
00:14:17way they're thinking, they want this to continue, they they, and that's why you know
00:14:21with all their blustery statements that come out of...
00:14:25is we
00:14:26need to keep this going
00:14:28for for you indefinitely without ever
00:14:32presenting any coherent peace plan or anything at all
00:14:36other than well Russia must essentially
00:14:40call for immediate cfy in other words a capitulation
00:14:43so but Georgia don't you think also I mean to finish off here I mean
00:14:47it's very interesting this the European position is to spite
00:14:51the Russians and equally spite the president the United States.
00:14:55I cannot see how that's a winning strategy. All right, gentlemen, I'm going to interrupt
00:14:59myself, we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some
00:15:03real news today with
00:15:04RT.
00:16:14Welcome back to Cross Talk Bullhorns where all things are considered on Peter we're
00:16:17discussing some real news and Mark that real news is what the heck is
00:16:21going on with Saudi Arabia because as you and I noted
00:16:25before uh we convene here today there's an enormous amount of conflicting
00:16:28information and I must say from some sources that I tended
00:16:32to trust and now trust a lot less because
00:16:36there there seems to um
00:16:39um um top dollars out there when it comes to uh trying to
00:16:43um manipulate um how people perceive the the conflict, the
00:16:47multiple conflicts going on now in Saudi Arabia, Yemen and of
00:16:51course the US and Israeli war against Tran, what
00:16:54is going on here and do the Mecca Alliance pact here have
00:16:58any meaning whatsoever, is that just more fog of war?
00:17:02Mark yeah um Saudi Arabia is getting pummeled
00:17:05too um by the Ansar Allah movement, the
00:17:08hoothies and Saudi infrastructure and Saudi
00:17:12airports uh have been hit repeatedly uh
00:17:16over the last two weeks and most recently
00:17:20the east-west uh oil pipeline uh to
00:17:24the red sea uh that is Saudi Arabia's
00:17:27bypass uh uh over the straight of 4
00:17:31moves um that has been hit for the second time taking out another uh
00:17:35pumping station and stopping of that pipeline again for the
00:17:39second time uh a month uh and
00:17:43the refineries have been hit again and again uh also on the
00:17:47ground the hoothis continue to press and
00:17:50take uh uh territory uh from the saudi
00:17:54proxy regime uh in Yemen. now this war
00:17:58has history right uh it's been going on for over decade,
00:18:02it entered into a frozen phase uh and it has now
00:18:06reignited after so...
00:18:07the arabia's attack on uh Yemen's airport in
00:18:11Sana, but it's best understood now in the context of a
00:18:15subset the US-Israeli war on
00:18:18Iran right, because Saudi Arabia, a proxy the United States
00:18:22and the Hufis here if you want to call
00:18:24them a a proxy of Iran uh, but Saudi Arab, the US
00:18:28can't defend Saudi Arabia just like it can't
00:18:31defend uh Kiev uh from these long distance
00:18:35attacks because it has... kille's heel has always been air
00:18:39defense um so the saudis have looked
00:18:43really everywhere right, they've been trying to bring in the French have promised to send
00:18:46troops, now they're turning to their new mecca defense alliance with
00:18:50Pakistan and Turkey and it's
00:18:53unclear,
00:18:54um both them have sent troops to Saudi Arabia to stand around
00:18:58and pretend to um uh provide air
00:19:02defense, well let me let me run let me run with that, let me run with that buse I agree with
00:19:06you uh we do have uh turkish and and making
00:19:10a lot of noise about this pact, but my
00:19:13theory the case is it's not necessarily to
00:19:17protect Saudi Arabia, it is to protect NBS and the
00:19:21Royal Family, that's what their mission is, it's defensive, and
00:19:25Mark and I again before we convene here
00:19:28commenting on um the reports that
00:19:31Pakistan was using its air force against the ansara law, which
00:19:35I alarm bells one off with... with me and I said no, that's
00:19:39not possible, it looks like it's not here, their mission is
00:19:43um to protect the existing order in Saudi Arabia,
00:19:47which depending on who you want to ask, Chaz Friedman, former
00:19:51ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and I thought it was an
00:19:54interesting insight, he said, um, people have been predicting the end of
00:19:58Saudi Arabia since 1934, so we should keep that into
00:20:02perspective, but then nonetheless the the the current
00:20:05royal family is not necessarily... the the the favorite topic the month in
00:20:09Saudi Arabia itself, if you can't defend the country, what right do you have to
00:20:13rule, george? well, I think it is very good point that
00:20:17Saudi Arabia's demise has been predicted many, many
00:20:21times, I mean it's it's uh, it it just seems
00:20:24like such an unstable uh structure,
00:20:28what is remarkable though is that Saudi Arabia
00:20:32actually has very powerful military, it has very large armed
00:20:35forces, it's been train. for years and years by
00:20:39western military advisers, pakistan has
00:20:43been present in Saudi Arabia really for decades, I mean
00:20:47this going back to the 1960s. "in fact, I think there are some
00:20:51Pakistanis who are serving in the uh the Saudi armed forces, well isn't
00:20:55that just the point, George, it's a for foreigners fighting for Saudi Arabia, but
00:20:59it's far, well that that's right, and and but you see in terms
00:21:03the numbers, you think, well that's quite a quite sizable army that
00:21:06Saudi Arabia has and it has up to date very
00:21:10sophisticated military equipment, I
00:21:12mean it's getting military equipment from the United States,
00:21:14it gets military equipment from Britain, from France, it is
00:21:17very large, very well equipped.
00:21:20military,
00:21:22you get there's an image that is still in my mind,
00:21:26Mark is a Anthoraf fighter wearing
00:21:29sandals with one arm firing
00:21:32at at Saudi forces, I mean these people seem indominable, okay,
00:21:36I'm not, I'm not trying to glorify this here, but my point is, I'm not going to
00:21:40dismiss how much money Saudi Arabia spends on military, of course they do, they
00:21:44actually pay a premium, um, but Mark, at the end the
00:21:48day, that's what's got inside. be out of trouble as always they can pay
00:21:52somebody off, they've always got money to to um to
00:21:56to right away its worries, that's not the case now, and
00:21:59they're not getting any cash, and as matter of fact, they're looking for
00:22:02international loans, so money isn't going to buy them out of this
00:22:06problem, mark? yeah, i'll glorify the
00:22:09answer, i don't have a problem with that, right? i'll i'll, i'll hail
00:22:13the fighters the fremmen the middle east, Saudi Arabia couldn't defeat
00:22:17uh, the the you know the the fl whether they've got. flip flops or not,
00:22:21the lucky ones do, I guess, they couldn't defeat them in more than decade, and I
00:22:25don't think they can defeat them now, and you're right, their money can't buy them out
00:22:28of that. It's true that on paper, Saudi Arabia
00:22:32has rather powerful military with lots of hardware from the
00:22:36US and other western countries, but in reality
00:22:39corruption is rife uh, and the saudi
00:22:43military tends to be a place where uh,
00:22:47Saudi uh, shall we say, nobility gets to...
00:22:50reside uh in places of semi uh
00:22:53importance, but but don't really have any military command,
00:22:57authority or experience. i think the saudi military lacks
00:23:01a warrior ethos and certainly lacks any real
00:23:05experience. uh, so i have some real questions, which
00:23:09is why they've relied mostly on mercenaries uh in
00:23:13Yemen for more than decade that do not perform well uh,
00:23:16and why they're now looking outside if the U.S. can no
00:23:20longer provide security them, they're trying to learn to
00:23:24other other actors, and it's true, they've long had a strategic
00:23:27partnership with Pakistan. It's widely rumored that they
00:23:31financed uh Pakistan's nuclear program and that Pakistan keeps
00:23:35some nukes in reserve for them. Uh, and there's an
00:23:38open question of whether Pakistan is participating in this or not, the New
00:23:42York Times reported they were, and then they took back the story when the
00:23:46Pakistan government vociferously denied it. uh so
00:23:50as far as we know they're just standing around in Saudi Arabia along with the
00:23:54Turks pretending to provide air defense, which they're not
00:23:58capable of doing anymore than the Americans, but
00:24:01Erdogan in Turkey, the cunning beast uh, while
00:24:05he has said he will not participate uh attacks
00:24:09on Ansar Alah, which is
00:24:11you know where the real fighting is, I mean this is a war in Yemen
00:24:15with Yemen taking some strikes back against Saudi
00:24:18Arabia, uh... on evidently has been
00:24:21calling on and the saudies as well on uh uh
00:24:25Erdouan's pet al-qaeda leader ruling over the ruins
00:24:29of Syria al-gilani al-sharah and he's got another
00:24:3310 or 20 thousand spare jihadi headchoppers that he could
00:24:37send off uh to fight the hoothies and I think that's what's being
00:24:40negotiated yeah but you're what you're talking about is the horizontal
00:24:44expansion of this war and George remarkably remarkably
00:24:48Donald Trump very upset about the the um the attacks
00:24:52on Saudi Arabia's airports and uh he's um
00:24:56pondering whether what to do meaning getting involved
00:25:00itself. I mean we had that with the b administration, we had that
00:25:04in the beginning the Trump administration and they want to do it
00:25:07again. I mean, I, I, I've expressed
00:25:11to both of you gentlemen, you know, I mean, when there's a, if there's
00:25:15a choice, why consistently the worst choices are
00:25:18made consistent? instantly over and over again, it's I'm
00:25:22baffled by it, George. Well, Trump has already twice
00:25:26said no to Saudi entreaties to bomb
00:25:30the hoothies. He mumbled that he may get
00:25:33involved after the the attack on the Riyad airport, but
00:25:37it was just mumble and he just he said, yeah, maybe we'll think about it,
00:25:41didn't sound like a commitment to do anything, so I have my doubts that
00:25:45he is actually going to do something, um, but I think the the case with...
00:25:50Turkey and Pakistan is, they have made absolutely clear
00:25:53everyone, to to the soudis, we are here
00:25:57defensively, and others, we will defend you here
00:26:01in Saudi Arabia, we are not. going to engage any kind
00:26:04of uh armed combat against the hoothies, we're not going to do that,
00:26:08so what's the point of being there? mean,
00:26:11well then,
00:26:15no,
00:26:15or maybe as you said at the beginning that it's all about trying to
00:26:19protect uh MBS and the the government in Riad,
00:26:22but in the case of Turkey, I mean they've said, well, first of all,
00:26:26the uh, the Mecca defense back hasn't yet been ratified
00:26:30by the the parliament, have you read it? have you seen it?
00:26:33does anybody read it? does anybody know what's in it? i don't think
00:26:37so, i think it's been released. yeah, no, that's right, and so so
00:26:41therefore, and turkey, turkey really does not want to get into
00:26:45any kind of offensive war, they don't want to
00:26:48entagonize Iran, they made clear that they don't want to antagonize
00:26:52iran. also, turkey is rival of Saudi Arabias
00:26:55in as leader the Islamic world, I mean that
00:26:59is very much Erdogan's program that it's... turkey, not
00:27:03Saudi Arabia, that's the leader the Islamic world,
00:27:05so there's no love loss between Turkey and Saudi Arabia, he's not going to
00:27:09antagonize Iran uh for the sake of
00:27:13this the government in Riad, and Pakistan is just
00:27:17says, we're not really going much beyond what we do here, which is we're going to
00:27:20station some forces in in Saudi Arabia,
00:27:24but we're not going to send them into any kind of combat role, you
00:27:27you
00:27:29can the the kingdom of Saudi Arabia is just very much unloved in the world is?
00:27:34I it doesn't have many friends, it has lots of
00:27:38customers, um, in fact you could argue, you could
00:27:42make you the argument that Russia has really one the best
00:27:46business-like relationships uh, despite long
00:27:49geopolitical differences in Syria, and their
00:27:52cooperation on OPEC plus has
00:27:55continued and performed much better than most of
00:27:59the critics uh said it was, but I agree with with
00:28:03George, that the real problem here is the
00:28:06horizontal expansion of this conflict, always
00:28:10spreading outside Iran and bringing in more and more
00:28:14players, whatever their specific role, it also makes it much
00:28:17harder to end, because Pakistan has been serving as
00:28:21a supposed mediator right um the
00:28:24US and Iran now how and the US
00:28:28has also attempted to subvert Oman over the past few months.
00:28:32which was also playing mediating role. now how can there be
00:28:36mediation between the US and Iran to end this conflict
00:28:39if both of those countries are being drawn into the
00:28:43conflict, which makes the ending of it even more
00:28:47difficult and improbable? well,
00:28:51again, we go back to the the origin story on
00:28:54February 28th, could any one, well, I think the if we were
00:28:58asked um, what would be the implications of it? I think we would have said, well...
00:29:02It could easily spread, okay? It could bring a lot of
00:29:06people, and you would be very difficult to control, if not
00:29:10nearly impossible to end, but that's where we are, gentlemen,
00:29:14plenty, plenty of can and voter for us to go over in the weeks
00:29:17ahead. I want to thank my guests here in Moscow and in Budapest, and of course I want to thank our
00:29:21viewers for watching us here in RT, see you next time, remember Crossock
00:29:25rules.
00:30:22He is eager to seize upon any words, initiatives or ideas
00:30:26entering the public discourse, so he can push for some breathing room.
00:30:30Russia's foreign minister dismissed." Vladimir Zelensky's
00:30:34ceasefire calls as a ploy to re-group
00:30:37Ukraine's forces. That's after Keyev demand it the guns
00:30:41fall silent for 60 days to allow for
00:30:44elections. The more we help Ukraine, the
00:30:48sooner the war will be over. Brussels adopts yet another package of
00:30:52anti-Russian sanctions with the EU hoping its 22nd
00:30:56round of restrictions will do what the previous 21 have failed to do.