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00:00:14Sometimes they return
00:00:1710 years after the detention of Russia's
00:00:20most terrible serial killer,
00:00:23Angarsk police officer Mikhail Popkov, his
00:00:27victims interrupt the silence.
00:00:30Today, those who managed to escape alive from
00:00:33the maniac's hands accuse him of the most terrible
00:00:37crimes. Hello, Eduard
00:00:40Petrov is in the studio.
00:00:43Locksmith, police officer, firefighter, gravedigger in
00:00:46the cemetery, car transporter, these
00:00:49are the professions that Mikhail Popkov mastered in
00:00:53a quarter of a century, and he was also known as
00:00:56an exemplary family man and a good comrade. And
00:01:00only in 2012 it became clear
00:01:03that Popkov was living a double life. In that
00:01:06secret life he was a ruthless rapist
00:01:09and murderer, on whose account there were 83
00:01:13victims. In the Irkutsk region, where this beast mostly
00:01:17operated, he was feared like
00:01:20fire. And those few women
00:01:23who managed to escape death were terribly
00:01:26frightened and preferred to remain silent. from
00:01:30the killer, and only now, when Mikhail Popkov
00:01:33is serving his endless sentence in a Mordovian
00:01:37maximum security colony, they
00:01:40decide to remember the past. How many
00:01:44more crimes are on the account of the murderer and rapist
00:01:47Mikhail Popkov? Why do the victims
00:01:50of the Angarsk Ripper find the strength to
00:01:53talk about his atrocities, and what awaits
00:01:57the bloodiest criminal of the modern
00:02:01world? We took on this case and conducted
00:02:04our own investigation.
00:02:45I'll show you now, it's somewhere there,
00:02:47yes,
00:02:51here it is, mhm, here it is, she took it, that's it,
00:02:54Yuri Grishanovich is already a pensioner, but he continues
00:02:58to work as a driver. on a fire truck,
00:03:02he says that service helps him to distract himself from
00:03:06all bad
00:03:07thoughts.
00:03:1025 years ago, Grishanovich's wife Natalia
00:03:13disappeared. On September
00:03:1730, 1997, in broad daylight,
00:03:21a woman got into a taxi in the center of Irkutsk, going to
00:03:25school to her son, no one saw her
00:03:27again.
00:03:33I rushed to the Kirovsky
00:03:36district, I said, it's like this and that, well, it's already evening, it's
00:03:39already 9:00 or whatever time it was, I don't
00:03:42remember, well, I go
00:03:46in there, in general, the captain, explaining the situation,
00:03:49I say, it's like this and that, my wife disappeared, he sends
00:03:52me off, like, go get some sleep, she says you've been fooling around,
00:03:55she'll come
00:03:59back at night... I don't remember how the night passed, in the morning I'm back in this
00:04:02Kirovsky police station, I say, it's like this and that, what's going on, let's
00:04:06deal with it, for several years the search for his beloved
00:04:09wife became the main occupation of Yuri
00:04:13Grishanovich, he devoted all his
00:04:16free time to
00:04:18this, we worked with the men, there
00:04:22were a lot of these firemen in our unit, my brother
00:04:25gave me a bus, two
00:04:28buses, we went to look for her, maybe we ourselves
00:04:32got lost on the way, we walked along the roads and looked for her, well, in the Irkutsk
00:04:35forest, yes, well, of course, out of hopelessness, I don't
00:04:39know what to do, well, that's why we went there
00:04:42and looked for her,
00:04:44friends advised Yuri to turn to
00:04:47clairvoyants and even suggested several
00:04:50addresses. They showed a photo, well,
00:04:54they showed some places on the map where to go or not,
00:04:57what did they say, I... I don't remember what they said, some said that
00:05:01it's all over, you won't find anything, no one, it's already
00:05:04over, others said that
00:05:07wait, she'll turn up, she'll be found, like she'll come herself,
00:05:10well, everyone kind of did that.
00:05:42search for witnesses, together with Irkutsk operatives he
00:05:46found a woman who saw how on that very day
00:05:49Natalia stopped a gray car and
00:05:52got into the front seat, at the wheel
00:05:55of the foreign car was a man in police
00:05:58uniform.
00:06:06Well, she noticed that she said she saw a woman who said
00:06:09she was wearing a leather...
00:06:42Nobody even suspected that the assistant operational
00:06:46duty officer of the Angarsk Department of Internal Affairs Mikhail
00:06:49Popkov in his free time cruised around the
00:06:53region in his foreign car in search
00:06:56of another victim.
00:07:25This is Tatyana Klemko. She,
00:07:28a native of Irkutsk, spent her whole life here, in
00:07:31the Jubilee
00:07:32microdistrict.
00:07:36Jubilee, probably, like in many
00:07:38districts. This was in the nineties.
00:08:44We spent the whole day
00:08:47with friends in the center on the embankment, then at
00:08:50the Trud stadium there was an open-air
00:08:53disco, in the Primursky area we
00:08:56caught a car, where are you going, it was
00:09:0012 o'clock, I was sober, that
00:09:03is, well, normal, I sat in
00:09:07the front seat, the driver
00:09:09turned out to be talkative, he wanted to get to know me
00:09:13better.
00:09:17Along the way he started,
00:09:20asked me my surname, at that moment I had a different surname,
00:09:23well, my maiden name, and it's Polish from
00:09:26my grandfather, he said: "Oh, I haven't had any Polish women
00:09:28yet." This completely
00:09:32stressed me out, we were driving, I asked him to stop, to which
00:09:36he naturally did
00:09:38not react.
00:09:40The taxi driver abruptly turned around.
00:10:12with words, he would cut off my arms,
00:10:14legs,
00:10:18I was skinny, I remember that his hands were
00:10:21huge, well, really, they were.
00:10:25He grabbed my arms and steered with one
00:10:28hand,
00:10:31insane with fear Tatyana had already
00:10:34said goodbye to life, but fate gave her
00:10:37a chance, we had already driven into the cemetery, the road
00:10:40was narrow, that is, graves, a narrow
00:10:43road, it turned out to be a dirt road, it was clear that the person was not there for the first time, he
00:10:46was oriented, he understood where to go, I think so, well, no,
00:10:50it means, a person probably wouldn't have driven so
00:10:53confidently. At this moment a thought
00:10:57occurred to me that only one thing could save me, if his doors were not
00:11:00locked.
00:11:05It was also good that I was wearing pants, I kicked
00:11:09him, his steering wheel swerved, and
00:11:12I pulled the door open.
00:11:15The girl, headlong, ran to the exit of the cemetery, there on
00:11:19the wasteland the lights of a trade
00:11:21pavilion shone dimly, inside there was a seller, and as it was
00:11:25customary in those years
00:11:28A guy came out, a guard came out, I grabbed his hand and said, I won't
00:11:32let you go, well, that's it, at that moment a car drove
00:11:35out, he slightly slowed down, saw that I was not alone,
00:11:39then he drove
00:11:41down.
00:11:45Tatyana didn't go to the police then, she was scared,
00:11:49she called her friends, but what could the young
00:11:52guys do, they advised.
00:12:01She graduated from the institute, got married, got
00:12:05a serious job, she only remembered
00:12:08that terrible incident 15 years
00:12:11later, when Mikhail Popkov was
00:12:14arrested. Our program thoroughly
00:12:18covered the killer in the film "The Button as
00:12:22Evidence".
00:12:25For several decades, a serial maniac operated in the Irkutsk
00:12:28region, an unknown killer brutally murdered young
00:12:30women, most of the crimes were committed in
00:12:34Angarsk. The Angarsk maniac was shown
00:12:37on TV, and Tatyana Klemko immediately
00:12:40understood who exactly she got into
00:12:43the car with on that fateful summer
00:12:46night. I understood that it was him, and
00:12:50they also showed me photos of his car,
00:12:54and they showed... the interior of the car, and I
00:12:57understood, I directly remember that the interior was exactly
00:13:01the same.
00:13:04These gigantic hands, Popkov really has such a powerful
00:13:07hand, I heard about it later on, his hands
00:13:11really, well, with one hand, that is, I couldn't
00:13:13break free, and his face is such, of course, ordinary, not memorable, but
00:13:17generally ordinary, he is an ordinary person, you'll see him in a crowd, and you won't
00:13:21notice him.
00:13:28In our program, we have repeatedly reported on
00:13:31the investigation of numerous crimes committed by Mikhail
00:13:34Popkov.
00:13:37Let us remind you, his bloody record includes
00:13:4183 murders, 82 women
00:13:44and one man, by the way,
00:13:46a police officer.
00:13:49A significant contribution to the investigation of the case
00:13:52of the Angarsk maniac was made.
00:14:25a hunter looking for his prey, who was looking for his prey,
00:14:29was looking for it this way, that is, yes, we see
00:14:32that the process of finding a victim,
00:14:36finding her and tracking her down in the future
00:14:39and bringing his intention to her murder to an end,
00:14:43was quite lengthy, he
00:14:46could just drive around the city, look for a victim,
00:14:49get some pleasure from it, but not kill
00:14:52anyone. There was... as we now have
00:14:56it according to the case, that he found and killed, but both
00:14:59brought him a certain
00:15:00pleasure.
00:15:04Popkov was tried three times, after the first life
00:15:08sentence, he recalled his old crimes
00:15:11twice more, but only now have those victims
00:15:15who managed to survive
00:15:17begun to emerge.
00:15:38For the last 20 years, Sofia Salakhaddinov has lived
00:15:42in Spain. She was born and raised in Irkutsk,
00:15:46went to study in St. Petersburg, where
00:15:49she met a handsome Spaniard. Soon
00:15:52the young couple got married and went to her husband's homeland in
00:15:56the capital of the Balearic Islands, the city of Palma de
00:15:59Mallorca. Sofia got a job in a car sales
00:16:03office, and at the same time studied
00:16:06to be a cosmetologist.
00:16:45crimes, when I saw the report, of course, I immediately recognized
00:16:48him,
00:16:50that is, even after so many years, after more than 20 years, you
00:16:54recognized this person, yes, that's the same policeman who
00:16:58once abused you, it would probably be hard
00:17:01to forget his face,
00:17:05his smile, that is...
00:17:10but it's definitely him, and I have no doubts
00:17:14about it at all. Sofia is sure that the man
00:17:17on the screen is the very man who
00:17:20committed a crime against her. More than a quarter
00:17:24of a century has passed since then, but that day
00:17:27was etched in the woman's memory
00:17:29forever. I remember perfectly
00:17:33how it was, I was waiting for the bus, it was
00:17:37already cold, it was nineteen ninety- four,
00:17:39November, and a car stopped and there
00:17:43was a man and a woman sitting, and they say: "Girl,
00:17:46can we give you a ride, get in," and at
00:17:50that moment, well, I was probably about 14,
00:17:53maybe 15,
00:17:56yes.
00:18:04I got in, it seemed to me at that moment that they were...
00:18:07acquainted.
00:18:13He introduced himself, said that he was
00:18:16a police
00:18:18officer, and yes, a police
00:18:21and we drove
00:18:23further.
00:18:26Soon the man stopped the car, and his companion
00:18:29got out.
00:18:33Sofia was left alone with the stranger.
00:18:40We were driving towards Sverdlovsk market, where it
00:18:44was, you know, I can't exactly
00:18:47say, I don't remember that
00:18:49either.
00:18:53I asked him where we were going, we somehow very
00:18:56quickly reached that
00:18:57place.
00:19:01Then the next
00:19:04thing was that he essentially said, "Come
00:19:08on, no
00:19:10talking, no scandals, undress."
00:19:14He got out of the car, opened
00:19:17the trunk, took out
00:19:19a blanket.
00:19:23Well, actually, he committed violent
00:19:27acts. Why didn't the criminal
00:19:31deal with his victim, as he did in
00:19:35dozens of cases, now we can only guess
00:19:38about it, maybe someone scared him away, or maybe he
00:19:42just really liked the young lady. Whatever
00:19:46the case, the rapist shoved the crying girl into
00:19:49the car, asked where to take her,
00:19:52and then gave her
00:19:54a lecture.
00:19:57He told me that next time, think with your head when
00:20:00you get into a car with strange
00:20:04men.
00:20:06When... we drove up to the house, I got out, ran into
00:20:10the entrance, moreover, I ran into a different
00:20:13entrance, not mine, I flew to the fourth floor, waited until
00:20:17he drove away, then only then returned
00:20:20home. Frightened Sofia did
00:20:24not go to the police. The girl was scared, and
00:20:27it was somehow shameful to report what happened.
00:20:31She didn't say anything to her parents
00:20:33either.
00:20:37I was afraid to tell my father the situation,
00:20:41because my dad was quite
00:20:44strict, and I probably was afraid to tell anyone
00:20:48anything, that is, I didn't tell anyone
00:20:50anything at all.
00:20:53Perhaps, it was my mistake that I didn't tell
00:20:57dad, that we didn't go to the police
00:21:00at that moment, didn't write
00:21:02a statement.
00:21:05No one knows how many more women, like Tatyana
00:21:09Klemko and Sofia Salakhaddinova, still
00:21:12keep their meeting with Mikhail
00:21:15Popkov a secret.
00:21:50sentenced to life imprisonment serial killer
00:21:53Popkov, is serving his sentence in a maximum
00:21:56security colony in Mordovia, in the village of Torbeevo,
00:22:00it is also called Torbeevsky Central.
00:22:21Here, a hundred and fifty inhuman people
00:22:24live out their lives: terrorists, murderers,
00:22:28pedophiles and leaders of organized crime groups.
00:22:57According to our information, maniac Popkov is going to give
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00:23:03crimes, and while he has not written any
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00:28:09In the Torbeevsky Central, we were shown how Mikhail
00:28:12Popkov lives and works.
00:28:16Here he is, in uniform with the letters
00:28:19P-Z on his chest, a lifer,
00:28:22sitting at a sewing machine, on
00:28:26the window of the work cell, a gridded
00:28:29marking on the patterns, carefully one by
00:28:33one he stacks the blanks.
00:28:36Next to Popkov are three more convicts, all
00:28:40notorious villains, nowhere to put a stamp,
00:28:44they sew without stopping.
00:28:47Here the command sounds, attention, convicted
00:28:50Popkov, the maniac jumps up from his workstation,
00:28:53instantly puts on his hat, the other
00:28:56convicts at this time put away their tools
00:29:00and freeze with their hands raised.
00:29:45For an interview with us, Mikhail Popkov was brought
00:29:47to the investigation room and locked up for
00:29:51safety. The serial killer had met with
00:29:54our film crew many times, so he habitually
00:29:58put on a professional lapel microphone on his uniform.
00:30:34I'm used to it, I worked at night for a certain
00:30:38period of time, now
00:30:41I work during the day, a five-day working
00:30:44week, you sew, well, I'm kind of
00:30:47learning, what are you sewing? Everything,
00:30:50in general, well, I understand that this is some kind of workwear
00:30:54for some utility services, mhm, well, in
00:30:58general, nothing complicated, probably, yes, you've mastered a lot of professions, no,
00:31:02I... you know, I haven't dealt with this before, for example, I
00:31:05personally would be able to sew some jeans
00:31:08now, for example, or a jacket,
00:31:12one.
00:31:15Popkov has been in Torbeevsky Central for 3
00:31:18years, he arrived here after another third
00:31:22life sentence.
00:31:25How is the usual routine, wake-up call at
00:31:27what time, like those at
00:31:30six, well,
00:31:33wake-up call, we clean the cell, and what is there to clean,
00:31:36it's always clean there, well, we wiped the dust, mopped the floors in
00:31:40turns, then
00:31:42exercise.
00:32:22here everyone got vaccinated
00:32:24I didn't even
00:32:29feel any slight malaise
00:32:32people say that some people, well, a day
00:32:36or two, well, first of all, a good immune system
00:32:39all such symptoms of a cold you
00:32:42are what? Well, she says that
00:34:06you were driving with a woman, that
00:34:09a car stopped, and there was a man and
00:34:12a woman sitting there.
00:34:35a joke and began very emotionally
00:34:38to recall what car he had at that time,
00:34:42simply put, to make excuses. What if
00:34:45someone mistakes me for someone else or
00:34:48takes me for someone else now?
00:34:53I had three cars at that time, for which I am
00:34:56being accused of crimes, this is a VAZ 2121
00:34:59Niva, light beige in color, then a Honda
00:35:03Integra, silver,
00:35:06in Russian, in Soviet style, wet
00:35:09asphalt, mhm, a blind headlight that opens
00:35:12when turned on, three-door.
00:35:19Mikhail Popkov made it clear
00:35:22that he had nothing to do with this
00:35:25story, and that he did not know Sofia
00:35:28Salakhaddinova and was seeing her for the first time,
00:35:32and besides, who knows what the woman imagined after so many years,
00:35:35but as for possible new confessions, Popkov
00:35:39nods affirmatively, yes, he says there are still
00:35:42sins. And
00:35:46how many more episodes will you have?
00:35:50I don't know, but two, probably, two more episodes, yes, and where, in which
00:35:53cities? We have everything there, in the city
00:35:57of Irkutsk, everything in Irkutsk,
00:35:58yes.
00:36:06Is that really true, do you really remember
00:36:08all this?
00:36:10A hypnotist, a specialist,
00:36:13worked with me, who activated
00:36:16my memory.
00:36:24Why Mikhail Popkov is enviable.
00:36:57Not to say that the word "relax" doesn't fit,
00:37:01probably not quite, you don't work, but it's not work, I just didn't work,
00:37:05I sat, I had the opportunity, well,
00:37:09I sifted through a huge mountain of literature,
00:37:11and books that I never even imagined existed.
00:37:15представлял, что существует.
00:37:31There is no doubt that in the near future, new
00:37:34criminal cases will be initiated
00:37:37against serial killer Mikhail
00:37:40Popkov. It is obvious that all
00:37:43official papers will be sent to the investigative
00:37:46bodies of the Irkutsk region, where
00:37:49this beast mostly
00:37:52operated.
00:37:56So, how realistic is it today to prove Popkov's involvement
00:38:00in crimes twenty years
00:38:02ago? If
00:38:05Popkov gives self-incriminating
00:38:08testimony, reports some circumstances of the committed crime or
00:38:11victims, all this is very simple
00:38:15and quickly checked, so in case such information is received, of course,
00:38:18it will all be worked out and checked, and if guilt is
00:38:22proven, charges will be filed, that is, there will be subsequent
00:38:25criminal cases, a continuation.
00:38:40The only difficulty in investigating such crimes is that
00:38:43a long period of time has passed, and
00:38:46some people, yes, who could have been eyewitnesses, witnesses to those
00:38:50events, they are simply no longer
00:38:53there. The story of the search for the Angarsk maniac, his arrest,
00:38:56every year... is overgrown with new details, and
00:39:00this is not surprising, for example, today we know that Mikhail
00:39:04Popkov was so confident in his
00:39:06impunity, so believed that he would never be
00:39:10found, that he himself voluntarily provided
00:39:13biological material for examination, and before
00:39:16his arrest he personally came to the police station and gave
00:39:20explanations.
00:39:23Our employees brought him a summons, delivered it to his
00:39:26wife at home. His wife then gave it to Popkov
00:39:30himself. Popkov, not only did he not fail to
00:39:33appear for the summons, he, suspecting nothing, came and gave
00:39:37testimony that yes, he was a former police officer, he had blood group
00:39:40three, he used to have a Niva, he provided
00:39:43his biological sample, that is,
00:39:46voluntarily, the sample was sent for examination, and
00:39:50a month later the result came that Popkov's genotype
00:39:54was 100% consistent with three genotypes, specifically from the series of
00:39:57women, that is, it was assumed that Popkov was indeed the serial
00:39:59killer.
00:40:04Artyom Dubynin, the very person who worked for many years
00:40:07in the group investigating the bloody
00:40:10crimes of the then unknown Angarsk
00:40:13maniac. It was he who once detained Mikhail
00:40:17Popkov. Modest, short, he is not at all
00:40:21like a movie superhero. At the moment when I
00:40:24retired, yes, I retired in 2018.
00:40:28in the city of Angarsk, at least 28 women who went missing
00:40:31between 1992 and 2011 under similar circumstances
00:40:34have not been found, and their whereabouts
00:40:37or their bodies have not been discovered
00:40:41or identified. I believe that there are
00:40:44more victims
00:40:46of Popkov in Angarsk and the surrounding
00:40:50areas, whom he either buried,
00:40:53burned, or drowned, so that their bodies
00:40:57would not be found immediately. And
00:41:18another point that people didn't pay attention
00:41:22to before is that a few years before the maniac
00:41:26was arrested,
00:41:40it seemed so obvious: neatly collect
00:41:43DNA from all law enforcement officers
00:41:47and security forces in Angarsk, and you would have
00:41:51the result in five minutes. In reality,
00:41:54it wasn't a five-minute job. Some people had moved
00:41:57to other regions, some had died,
00:42:00and some didn't want
00:42:02to give their DNA. In
00:42:06addition, the cost of one...
00:43:01He rose to the rank of general, at that time he was a senior detective of the criminal investigation department of the Irkutsk Department of Internal Affairs, he recalls a series of
00:43:04rapes and murders near the village of Meget, which
00:43:08is near Irkutsk. She remained alive and said
00:43:12that the criminal was a police officer.
00:43:16Her story is standard: she got into a stranger's car,
00:43:19he grabbed her hands,
00:43:21his grip was iron, and he drove her into the forest.
00:43:25For a long time, according
00:43:28to her, this rape continued,
00:43:32but then he said,
00:43:34"Okay, you can live,
00:43:38I like you, you can live."
00:44:10because the time was, to put it mildly,
00:44:13turbulent, and girls simply,
00:44:17and men too, not everyone would get
00:44:20into a car,
00:44:23they could be robbed, killed, so, therefore,
00:44:27they would get into a car without fear,
00:44:30and you could only get into a car
00:44:34with someone well-known,
00:44:36or a person in one form or another...
00:44:42Kononov reported his assumptions to his superiors,
00:44:45they, of course, listened, but no decisions were
00:44:48made, and there's no one to blame for that. At that time,
00:44:52in the Irkutsk region, people were shot, killed, and
00:44:55robbed every day, and the police were literally
00:44:58exhausted, there weren't enough officers, and
00:45:02they also had to look for an invisible
00:45:04colleague.
00:45:51Well, this is the department, this is Valentina Vasilievna,
00:45:54this is Natalia, where is Natalia,
00:45:57here she is, here she is the second one, with light hair, yes, I think she is even in
00:46:01this suit, or something like that, hmm, well, this is somewhere
00:46:04around '97, and she graduated from the institute and went to work in a bank, yes
00:46:08or how, she worked.
00:46:45The hope of finding his wife, who disappeared
00:46:49in September 1997, does not leave the pensioner Yuri
00:46:52Grishanovich.
00:46:54We talked about his family tragedy at the beginning
00:46:58of our program. He is sure that sooner
00:47:01or later he will definitely find out what happened
00:47:04to his beloved Natalia.
00:47:08He remembers that he himself was once suspected
00:47:12of the murder of a loved one. Then they came
00:47:16to me, one investigator came,
00:47:20let's say, we'll look at you, check you. I say,
00:47:24well, go, look, in the sense, we'll check you again, yes,
00:47:27again, listen, did you have, I understand that this is a bit
00:47:30rude question, Yuri Vladimirovich, did you have any
00:47:34quarrels with your wife, any arguments, maybe,
00:47:37on that basis, well, yes, who didn't,
00:47:40well, not to that extent, of course, it's a household matter,
00:47:44we argued, made up, understood,
00:47:47well, so even if you were suspected of,
00:47:51let's say, your wife's murder. Well, they have to
00:47:54work through everything,
00:47:56who am I to them that they know me, or what, well, so,
00:48:00they came about
00:48:00three times,
00:48:05there are many photos of Natalia in Yuri
00:48:09Grishanovich's house, they are everywhere,
00:48:12in numerous albums, on the table, walls.
00:48:16Grishanovich learned from a TV program
00:48:20that the maniac Mikhail Popkov was operating in the region.
00:48:27After watching our program, the button as evidence,
00:48:31he himself came to the local Investigative Committee
00:48:35department and once again told his story to the investigator.
00:48:38The pensioner does not rule out that his missing wife
00:48:42became a victim of the killer Popkov.
00:48:45It seems that Yuri Grishanovich knows all the stories
00:48:49of missing women in the Irkutsk region,
00:48:53he remembers their names. First Kazimirova disappeared,
00:48:57then the school teacher
00:48:59Leonova, and I don't remember how,
00:49:03in short, I found her relatives and tried to talk to them,
00:49:07well, in general, it was an attempt, we came,
00:49:11I came to her, they lived there during the December
00:49:14events, well, I wanted to talk about what was what, but
00:49:18for some reason, they didn't really want to communicate, I don't know why.
00:49:24And I still haven't found her. We will not discuss
00:49:27the criminal code here and speculate on the
00:49:29severity of punishment for such bloody
00:49:33maniacs as Mikhail Popkov. We will simply present
00:49:36the opinions of the people with whom we recorded interviews for
00:49:40our program.
00:49:44What will be harder for a person: to live their whole life
00:49:47in the conditions in which Popkov is currently held,
00:49:51or would it be easier for him to receive the death penalty?
00:49:55No, it's not needed, why would it be?
00:49:59Everyone already understands
00:50:00that life imprisonment is
00:50:04the same as the death penalty, just in a different
00:50:08form,
00:50:08so to speak.
00:50:12Yes, I think it is needed.
00:50:15If he isn't here now, who
00:50:17will tell? You know, to be honest
00:50:21with you,
00:50:55Even several life sentences are unlikely
00:50:58to reform the cruel maniac killer Mikhail
00:51:01Popkov. His story
00:51:04confirms the theory of the inevitability
00:51:07of punishment,
00:51:11and it's good that in his case, justice
00:51:14prevailed not somewhere in the heavens, but
00:51:17on Earth, those who accidentally survived
00:51:21a meeting with...
00:52:30These are the stories we heard from women
00:52:34who managed to escape the clutches of the Angarsk maniac
00:52:38Mikhail Popkov. This was our investigation
00:52:41from the Irkutsk
00:55:59Our army.