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00:05:39say good morning to skype.gr to see how
00:05:42it records the news. First topic, of course,
00:05:46this incident in Leipzig,
00:05:49hybrid attack, Berlin sees behind the
00:05:52booby-trapped drone in Leipzig, the German Minister
00:05:56of Interior did not rule out involvement of hostile forces, speaking
00:05:59of a very serious case and a new
00:06:03level of hybrid threat. Also, what
00:06:06does the Iran Oman agreement provide for the Strait of
00:06:09Hormuz? Read more at sky.gr.
00:06:12The information we are getting is that this agreement is imminent
00:06:16from hour to hour, not from day to day, they say from hour to hour, but
00:06:20this has been developing from day to day, they've been saying it since the day before yesterday, anyway,
00:06:23now Mitsotakis for interconnection with Cyprus, a strong
00:06:27vote in the energy sector of Greece, the entry of Meridia,
00:06:31electrical interconnection Greece-Cyprus with majority shareholder the
00:06:35French group, this development is very important, we will
00:06:39discuss it in a little while, we also read.
00:06:42of the economy, new system of agricultural subsidies, the instructions
00:06:46of the AADE for the submission of subsidy
00:06:49applications, it seems that some order is being introduced in the
00:06:52agricultural subsidies and the assumption of this role by
00:06:56the AADE. We also read other
00:06:59news, yes, because we may have the Persian Gulf and the international
00:07:03community may have its eyes focused there, but we must not forget another
00:07:07narrow, critical, critical
00:07:09importance, we are talking about the Strait of Bab. Saudi
00:07:13Arabia can break the dominance of the Houthis in the Red Sea, this is an
00:07:17analysis, an article from The Washington Post,
00:07:20and also from the sports news the title for yesterday's
00:07:23game is indicative, Panathinaikos suffered in OAKA,
00:07:27is now called to learn from this and qualify through
00:07:31Bulgaria. You can also see the highlights, we also have
00:07:34statements from the coach, we have the pressure, but
00:07:37we're going for the win, there's nothing else for us. said the
00:07:41coach of the Greens. Of course,
00:07:44we don't forget everything that has
00:07:47happened in recent days with these very destructive
00:07:51fires in Boeotia and Western Attica. Now the government is
00:07:55racing to support the fire victims. Financial
00:07:58aid, tax and insurance facilities,
00:08:02special measures for businesses and residents,
00:08:06were decided at this inter-ministerial meeting under Kyriakos
00:08:08Mitsotakis yesterday at Maximos Mansion, but all
00:08:19this has been gathered in the report of Hrisambatos, let's
00:08:23watch it. Under the
00:08:23diptych
00:08:27rapid damage assessment and immediate relief for the fire victims of Western
00:08:31Attica, the Prime Minister announced a package of support measures,
00:08:34assuring that the state will stand by
00:08:37them. At the center, beyond immediate financial
00:08:40aid, support for businesses and agriculture. operations with a maximum aid limit of
00:08:44€500,000 per beneficiary, suspension of tax and insurance
00:08:48obligations, suspension of auctions, suspension of employment
00:08:51contracts, exemption from ENFIA and special support for fire-affected
00:08:55areas through the creation of a special pass program for
00:08:59the next tourist season and Mybusiness support for
00:09:02further enhancement. This time we will move even faster regarding
00:09:06the financing of the
00:09:09reconstruction actions for the houses
00:09:12that were destroyed, always within the specific legal
00:09:15framework that applies.
00:09:18At the same time, in the next 48 hours, the completion of the damage assessment
00:09:22in homes is expected, while the start of anti-erosion and
00:09:25flood protection works is estimated for September
00:09:2815. The inspections of the competent teams
00:09:32have already started in Porto Germeno, which was visited by the Minister of Civil
00:09:35Protection.
00:09:38Nikos Androulakis toured the affected areas of Western Attica
00:09:42and insisted on the need for timely compensation for the
00:09:45fire victims. The state must support
00:09:48them immediately, paying the first
00:09:52aid, but also the total of the
00:09:54compensation they are entitled to. Civil
00:09:57protection in our country must acquire a
00:10:00different doctrine. We have spent more than 500 million in total in the last
00:10:045 years on prevention actions, these are actions that have
00:10:08measurable results.
00:10:11Responsibilities for shortcomings. The other parties also attribute blame for prevention
00:10:15and civil protection to the government. The Prime Minister today, in a provocative
00:10:18and outrageous way, tried to present
00:10:21white as black and to present success and measurable
00:10:25results on the ashes, we are all judged by the results and
00:10:28unfortunately we are watching the same play, we are obliged to
00:10:31have political conscience, not only
00:10:34political responsibility, because the vicious
00:10:37circle is reproduced, now we are talking about the damages from the fires, in a
00:10:41few months we will be talking about the floods, the Prime Minister self-satisfied
00:10:45and provocatively indifferent, no highly paid
00:10:48co-responsible person feels the need to either foresee, or
00:10:52protect, or resign. We see. a delegation of the Greek
00:10:56Left Coalition also visited the port. Unfortunately, once
00:10:59again, natural disasters find the state unprepared. On Thursday, the
00:11:03Minister of Environment will present in detail the total area that
00:11:06turned to ashes and is estimated at approximately 111
00:11:10acres.
00:11:13And it's not just one Athens, the focus of confrontation between the government and
00:11:17the opposition, because the issue of the recycling kiosks
00:11:20that we saw in previous days is now resurfacing, with the
00:11:23confrontation escalating, Athens. Yes, the government and PASOK are exchanging
00:11:27accusations both about the
00:11:30legality of the contract for these recycling kiosks, as
00:11:34well as about the cost of acquiring them,
00:11:37citing a new opinion invoked by Adonis
00:11:41Georgiadis. At this point, let's see the report prepared by
00:11:44Despina Vlepakis, and immediately after, with us will
00:11:47be the MP of New Democracy, Mr. Stelios
00:11:51Petsas, along with our colleague Giorgos Alexakis, and let's discuss everything.
00:11:55A war of announcements broke out between Adonis Georgiadis and
00:11:59PASOK regarding the recycling kiosks of Techan and the cost
00:12:03of acquiring them. The Minister of Health claimed that everything was done
00:12:06legally and cited an independent expert
00:12:10who characterized, as he states, the opinion
00:12:13of the Financial Control Committee as erroneous.
00:12:16He considers this opinion to be
00:12:19illegal, that it is erroneous, and that the
00:12:22inspectors who issued it have civil liability. of the
00:12:25public, but also criminal liability for infidelity and breach
00:12:28of duty and should be disciplinarily investigated. Mr. Georgiadis' posts
00:12:32who after
00:12:35assuming the position of self-appointed avenger where
00:12:38he was recorded punishing as if he were the judicial d, now
00:12:42he is trying with continuous posts
00:12:45to represent the interests of companies. In his post, Mr.
00:12:49Georgiadis revealed that the independent expert
00:12:53whom the ES service assigned
00:12:55to provide an opinion after the report is the secretary of institutions of PASOK.
00:12:59Mr. Androulakis, did you ask the secretary of institutions and transparency
00:13:03of PASOKinAL about the green
00:13:06kiosks and whether it is a scandal or
00:13:10not? You speak among yourselves in the
00:13:13movement. The opinion you refer to is neither
00:13:16a finding for the case of Techan, nor an assessment of the
00:13:20legality of this specific contract. It is enough to
00:13:23read the text itself, instead of isolating, as
00:13:27you do, excerpts. Panic
00:13:30is a very bad advisor. They keep their secretary, their right,
00:13:34so they accept her findings and stop complaining
00:13:38against themselves. Take down your video, Mr.
00:13:41Androulakis, don't humiliate yourself any further.
00:13:44Apparently, Mr. Georgiadis either did not read the text of my
00:13:47opinion, or he read it and did not understand it, or
00:13:51he read it, understood it, and chose to misrepresent it. The
00:13:55latter version is the most problematic. Read
00:13:58how someone writes when they have been caught with their hand
00:14:02in the cookie jar. After an investigation by the European Public Prosecutor's Office and the termination of its
00:14:05cooperation with Esna, Techan ceased operational
00:14:09support and withdrew from the operation of the multi-center
00:14:12recycling.
00:14:15So, we saw the data as recorded by the Skype report.
00:14:19Let's now move on to our discussion, Mr. Stelios Petsas is here in the studio and it is our pleasure to
00:14:22host you. Good morning, thank you very much for the invitation, happy
00:14:26birthday to all those celebrating today,
00:14:30Transfiguration of the Savior, a great holiday, MP of New
00:14:33Democracy, in Eastern Attica, let's mention these things too, Mr.
00:14:36Petsas, because you never know when they will happen, they will happen in
00:14:392027,
00:14:42for me, I don't know if anything extraordinary will happen of course, but
00:14:46I believe that regarding the timing of the
00:14:49elections, the Prime Minister has said many times about the spring of
00:14:532027, I also believe it. In 2027 and I believe that we still have many things to do
00:14:57to rise higher in the polls, approaching
00:15:00what may currently be a bit silent from New Democracy for
00:15:04various reasons, because we know the reasons, I think we can do
00:15:07things to bring them closer to us, so we have time ahead of us to include
00:15:11our good colleague Mr. Giorgos Alexakis in our discussion. Good day
00:15:14to you, thank you very much. Good morning, good morning,
00:15:18good morning, good morning, Giorgos. So, let's start with the
00:15:21topic of recycling, and happy birthday, it's a big celebration
00:15:25today. Yes, it is, as you said, happy birthday to all Sotiris
00:15:28and Sotiroules, and also to the Morfies, Giorgos, let's not
00:15:32forget them, they are celebrating today, they are celebrating today
00:15:35as well.
00:15:39Here's to the beautiful and non-beautiful ones,
00:15:42exactly, exactly. Let's start, Giorgos, with the topic
00:15:46of recycling that has resurfaced again now.
00:15:50We had successive announcements yesterday, what they call in political
00:15:53reporting, a paper war
00:15:56between Adonis Georgiadis and PASOK,
00:15:59regarding what the Minister
00:16:02of Health said about the opinions given by a
00:16:05PASOK executive. The
00:16:08lady,
00:16:10remind me of her surname, I mean, Ms. Georgaki,
00:16:14bravo, well, all this sparked the controversy, and
00:16:18indeed, Mr. Georgiadis told Mr. Androulakis, it's better to
00:16:22take down any post you've made about recycling, because it's your
00:16:25own executive who is undermining your arguments.
00:16:28Think about the citizens who
00:16:31will be called in a short time to pay as
00:16:35they throw it away.
00:16:39Think about the citizens who in the near future will have
00:16:43before them a very important and reliable
00:16:46recycling system for recovering data and the circular
00:16:50economy goals that exist. Also think about the municipalities who
00:16:53are on the front line of this
00:16:57process and will have to take a series
00:16:59of actions, and on the other hand, look at the paper war, as you aptly
00:17:03described it. You understand that citizens
00:17:07remain a little stunned, they cannot understand
00:17:10what is happening and are asking for answers. The big question is to have
00:17:14transparency in this whole process. We know very well that there are
00:17:17specific business interests behind
00:17:20every proposal that
00:17:23aims to shape these recycling
00:17:26systems. We know that there is a lot of money involved,
00:17:30and there are also the country's obligations, and there is also the money that
00:17:33municipalities, all organizations, are called to invest in this
00:17:36process, and convincing answers must be given beyond these
00:17:39paper wars. From then on, I believe that the central issue is to
00:17:43form a very reliable system so that the country does not reach a
00:17:47point where it pays fines for not meeting the recycling
00:17:50targets, which are quite ambitious and in which we are very
00:17:54far behind at the moment. From then on, I believe that
00:17:57justice, as it seems, will decide, the administrative
00:18:01authorities will have to
00:18:04move to finally see if
00:18:08everything has been done legally or if we have a controversial case. And
00:18:11even more so since the European Public Prosecutor's Office has entered
00:18:14the equation, Mr. Petsas, and this is also an issue on which PASOK insists.
00:18:18I saw a relevant announcement yesterday addressed
00:18:22to Adonis Georgiadis from Harilaou Trikoupi, what does the
00:18:25minister and New Democracy have to say about the investigation conducted by the European
00:18:29Public Prosecutor's Office on the matter? First of all, let's say that recycling is a big
00:18:33issue for all of Europe and of course for Greece, where unfortunately
00:18:36we still have low recycling rates, so we all
00:18:40understand that we need to invest more in this area. One form of
00:18:43investment is what we are seeing now, in which, of course, the European
00:18:46Public Prosecutor's Office, if there are European funds involved,
00:18:50does well to investigate. However, it's one thing that a new
00:18:53institution like the European Public Prosecutor's Office is investigating
00:18:57this case, and another thing that there are
00:19:00political officials who had criminal
00:19:04responsibilities, because yesterday I saw - and I have to take my
00:19:09hat off to Adonis - yesterday I saw a
00:19:11statement by Mr. Georgiadis,
00:19:15followed by two, three, four announcements from PASOK, on the same
00:19:19issue, it seems one didn't cover the other and they needed to issue a bunch
00:19:22of announcements, because, to conclude eventually, as I understand it, so as not to confuse the people listening
00:19:26to us, not on issues of legality that had been checked by the audit court, not on issues of the
00:19:29opinion of the PASOK executive, who served in a
00:19:33pivotal position in the secretariat that justified more or
00:19:36less the undertaking of these investments by the
00:19:39region through the NSRF and placed some
00:19:43blame on a lack of preparedness in the first stage of control by the financial control
00:19:46committee, not on all these, but on the expediency, excuse me, will we
00:19:50talk about expediency, that is, we went to political responsibility now, whether an
00:19:53investment in recycling should have been made or not?
00:19:57That is, I want to say that PASOK is trying to create a scandal
00:20:01on an issue, I don't think it benefits it, it certainly doesn't benefit it in the polls,
00:20:05because I see it falling instead of rising.
00:20:07Therefore, instead of dealing with real issues that concern
00:20:11citizens, such as accuracy, such as security, such as immigration,
00:20:15if you want, with the latest events also in Spain, all these issues are
00:20:19dealt with by four or five announcements from PASOK, to eventually conclude whether
00:20:22it was reasonable to proceed with such an investment for
00:20:26recycling. I don't think we serve our
00:20:30country that way, and I will be waiting with interest for the European
00:20:33Public Prosecutor's Office's report. I have seen many reports from the financial
00:20:36control committee. You know that I come from the
00:20:39General Accounting Office of the State where this service started, so
00:20:43when there is a provisional audit sheet, there is also a second final one, there are many
00:20:47findings, they enter the process of real, let's
00:20:51say, analysis by all those involved to eventually improve the proper management of community funds, but
00:20:55not to the extent of discovering criminal responsibilities everywhere for ministers, especially when the
00:20:59tenders have been made either by the region or municipalities. The
00:21:02framework can also be set by the ministers, perhaps.
00:21:05The
00:21:08key is to see if these processes, these specific
00:21:11structures, should have been funded from the
00:21:15resources, and from then on, a second point that does not concern the tender
00:21:18itself is to see if the strategy for
00:21:21the circular economy is leading us, as Mr.
00:21:25Petsas said, to the
00:21:28implementation of the country's goals, because otherwise we will be called to pay
00:21:32more, and from then on, to see if the
00:21:35return from these specific
00:21:39structures is what it should be for the citizens, let's not forget that a
00:21:43corresponding large DRS
00:21:45system of the deposit-refund process is also
00:21:49approaching, meaning we will get something that is recycled, and we will return it and get a
00:21:52refund. All this needs to be understood by the citizens, to be seen,
00:21:56that's why I insisted at the beginning, to finally see if the
00:22:00country is moving forward, meeting
00:22:02recycling targets, which it is very behind on, and let's not forget that all these
00:22:06issues will be emphatically raised in the near future so that we are not called
00:22:10to pay fines later, and so on, exactly, exactly, exactly,
00:22:13because it is also the infrastructure anyway for which
00:22:17a lot of money has been invested and to see that all this
00:22:21is falling into disuse from a certain point onwards and indeed some municipalities are even removing
00:22:24the specific facilities, it goes without saying that it is
00:22:28something that does not please anyone. Now let's move on to the fires, let's
00:22:31move a little to the big topic of the day. We heard yesterday from
00:22:34the Prime Minister assurances that this
00:22:37time the relief for the victims will be
00:22:41immediate. However, the criticism from the opposition remains and
00:22:44focuses mainly on prevention, because okay,
00:22:48climate change and the climate crisis, we all know it, it's something that
00:22:51is expected, so what do you say to that?
00:22:55Look, I think the Prime Minister said that we will proceed even faster, no,
00:22:59it's not that there isn't a framework, on the contrary, the framework of state aid that was formed after
00:23:022020 has helped both in quick registration and in
00:23:06even quicker payment of compensation at least in most
00:23:09cases. We have the past,
00:23:12because I know this part quite well, it was tragic regarding the
00:23:16delays, even for the inspections it was tragic, I think.
00:23:20It's making progress there and new tools have been introduced, meaning that housing assistance
00:23:23reaches up to 100% of the value,
00:23:27that there are possibilities for rent subsidy to temporarily house
00:23:31someone if their main residence has been destroyed, we have made
00:23:35progress for businesses and for agriculture, for the inspections you
00:23:38mentioned, Mr. Petsas, what we see as a fundamental change that
00:23:41at least I see happening for the first time, is that only one
00:23:45inspection will be enough in order for assistance to be provided
00:23:49to a person.
00:23:55experience of the years, after the first two years of implementing the new
00:23:59state aid model, at least during our governance, experience had
00:24:03shown that there was a limited time where the same teams had to
00:24:07go once, twice, three times because there are needs throughout
00:24:10Greece and the competent
00:24:13staff were not enough, therefore we proceeded to a faster, simpler
00:24:17process, I think this is to everyone's benefit and
00:24:22they accuse you, however, that we are reaching the point
00:24:25where you will give some money, where you will take some actions,
00:24:29such as for example Porto Germeno for
00:24:31the enhancement of tourism, but at the level of prevention, as Athina
00:24:35said a little while ago, that critical projects that
00:24:39you had even planned in the recovery fund, you
00:24:42removed them, then we see fire zones being created at the last
00:24:46minute. Fire zones are a part of prevention.
00:24:50Look, one thing is our responsibility towards the citizens and how
00:24:53we position ourselves as a government and constantly strive for something
00:24:56better, and the other is the criticism of the opposition. I distinguish the two
00:25:00because I want to be consistent. against what I'm saying, because tomorrow,
00:25:04the day after tomorrow, and for years to come, we will be here. No previous
00:25:07government has implemented tools like this government does, the
00:25:10"Antinero" program, for example, which is a cleaning program, all the
00:25:14issues that have to do with increasing funds for municipalities , all
00:25:17the entire framework for the designation of plots. These are things that
00:25:20this government did, so in relation to the criticism of the
00:25:24opposition, I have to say, if these tools had been implemented
00:25:28in the past, we would have had much better results in our forests that were
00:25:31abandoned for decades. However, significant cleaning steps have been taken, and
00:25:35in fact, I read that Mitsotakis yesterday mentioned
00:25:37that
00:25:41in the last five years, you, as a government, have given 500 million euros
00:25:44precisely for prevention, but given the
00:25:47conditions, as they are developing.
00:26:02an unpredictable event. That's why I wanted to distinguish what we did compared to those who want to criticize from the
00:26:06opposition, but addressing the citizens, I want to say, my
00:26:10full position at least, as I have expressed it, that no matter how much support
00:26:13there is from the government, in retrospect
00:26:16it is often not enough. And I have proposed, as you know, in the
00:26:20past, and in Parliament, and in the last bill that was passed for civil
00:26:24protection and the acceleration of the, of dealing with
00:26:26natural disasters, to have universal mandatory.
00:26:30insurance for all and
00:26:32for homes and for businesses and for agricultural holdings. It is the only
00:26:36way for someone to be able to start their life quickly
00:26:39without waiting for a state budget that will constantly have to
00:26:43face new challenges which we must
00:26:47admit that the environmental climate changes will be greater, therefore
00:26:50we must take a step in that direction and because truly
00:26:54some may say that okay well why should we do this it has
00:26:57enormous benefits and also if there are
00:27:01some vulnerable people who are not able to pay the premium for an
00:27:04insurance policy we should support them to substantiate
00:27:07a little what I am saying, an insurance for a house of 100 square meters is approximately
00:27:11120€ per year, if there was universal insurance it would
00:27:15be under 30 to 35% of the premium and
00:27:18we are talking about three out of four Greek families living in homes up to 100
00:27:22square meters, Mr. Petsas, you know what happens, the cost is not terrible when
00:27:26one thinks that they can be without their home for a very long time until
00:27:29they receive state aid. I referred to this issue yesterday on the show on the
00:27:45radio and messages were coming in from listeners who were saying that
00:27:49yes, we want to insure it, but the insurance companies are not
00:27:53insuring it because it is high risk, for example, if it is a
00:27:56property near a dangerous area,
00:28:00so. Do you see a mandatory nature in
00:28:03insurance evolving into
00:28:07a mandatory nature for insurance companies to respond?
00:28:09Can it be done in this way? Yes,
00:28:13what you raised was very important yesterday. There is a threefold issue. Firstly, the
00:28:17age. Very old houses are not insured. Secondly, there is the issue of
00:28:20urban planning regulations. The house must be
00:28:24absolutely compliant. In many
00:28:27cases, some of these houses, even if the procedure has progressed, the...
00:28:31also have outstanding issues, and the third
00:28:33is this risk. There must be an agreement with the
00:28:37government. I think the association of insurance companies, i.e., the body that
00:28:41represents the insurance companies in Greece, has a
00:28:44strong position in the direction of developing insurance
00:28:48awareness in Greece. It is necessary, no matter what, people who
00:28:52have property, all of us who have property, let's
00:28:55consider it. The cost is not that high. It certainly helps and
00:28:58honestly, we can't expect everything from the state,
00:29:01especially when the state is also dealing with serious issues and of course
00:29:05climate change creates very big risks. Let's
00:29:08not forget that our country also has the issue of earthquakes,
00:29:12seismicity. We have learned to live with earthquakes, we have not learned to live with
00:29:16fires and we don't want to. We have learned to live with
00:29:18earthquakes. Unfortunately, there too, despite the fact that we are in
00:29:22an earthquake-prone area, we all neglect it and we should
00:29:26take it seriously. the issue of the discount. These issues must be discussed as a whole
00:29:29and of course we must see what happens with the peri-urban
00:29:42forests, that is, areas that are inhabited
00:29:45and border forest cores,
00:29:49as we had this case in western Attica, to see what
00:29:52can be done as prevention in the
00:29:55incentive process. of insurance. Beyond that, we must
00:29:59again look at the issues of prevention. As
00:30:02it seems, here we have a case like
00:30:06that of Evia, a very dense forest, a very rich
00:30:09forest, which all these years
00:30:13had been protected, either by chance or for reasons of
00:30:16prevention, but it had been left, it had
00:30:19been left because people no longer exist in the periphery,
00:30:22resin producers, the people who lived daily and
00:30:26worked. there is money, the
00:30:29"Antinero" program, there is the undergrounding program for the cables of
00:30:41DEDIE and ADMIE and the issues that
00:30:45keep coming up, the point is that at some point, solutions must be provided.
00:30:48solutions.
00:30:51είναι από ένα σημείο και μετά να δίνονται λύσεις.