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00:00:01in the position of the accused, I was then here, here. I left for five days and there, I was not there,
00:00:05uh, I am not him, I am him, but I did not
00:00:08participate, I mean, nothing like that has been announced, it is
00:00:12a very serious story for anyone to deal with
00:00:15superficially and superficially, indeed, indeed, now
00:00:19at the level of trauma and because we have Mrs. Konstantinidou with us who
00:00:23specializes in these issues, Mrs. Konstantinidou, as
00:00:26a psychologist, Mr. Daltas also said, this is the deep trauma in the
00:00:30Greek society and that 16 years later it is
00:00:33open and we hope at this
00:00:36stage at least that some light will be shed to see what happened because 16 years
00:00:40later it is an
00:00:44open wound for Greek society,
00:00:47it is indeed a collective trauma, we have been saying it for years, we have been
00:00:50feeling it for years, this is something in itself,
00:00:54in essence, in the trauma we say the following:
00:00:57the sooner justice is done,
00:01:01the more time
00:01:04a person saves from dealing with trauma, because there is essentially
00:01:08no real treatment, it is a deep trauma,
00:01:11it is a strong trauma, violent trauma, people
00:01:15died, our fellow citizens, it could be literally anyone,
00:01:19we all identified with this, unfortunately,
00:01:22and we come to this position, we all expect justice,
00:01:26I imagine, especially the family and there
00:01:29the... uh, the deceased, in any
00:01:32case, in order to say that there is some order both
00:01:36within us and at the level of mental balance, justice needs
00:01:39to contribute to this, the sooner justice is served
00:01:43in something,
00:01:47the better for our own management and, in
00:01:50quotation marks, healing, it cannot be done otherwise, what remains
00:01:53open hurts and hurts
00:02:09Dalta, uh, if he hears us however,
00:02:12our question at this moment is where we are in the
00:02:16case of Mistra and how crucial the forensic report will be
00:02:20for the cause of death of the elderly man in a case
00:02:23which has caused a stir and many questions arise, the
00:02:26fact that he had. the other one in the
00:02:30freezer for at least 2.5
00:02:33years to collect the double
00:02:35pension of both the father and
00:02:39the deceased mother, that is a big
00:02:42big issue and many questions, Mr. Edalta, in this case of
00:02:46Mistra. Yes, look, I listened to the
00:02:49sister, I listened to the lawyer, we all listened to them, what did the
00:02:53sister say? That there was no financial issue because if the
00:02:56hotel unit was operating, it would have had much greater revenues
00:03:00than collecting the pension. Uh
00:03:04this in itself causes disgust so the person in the
00:03:08freezer, uh, the explanation given by
00:03:11the lawyer speaking on behalf of the accused
00:03:14is that it is due to pathological
00:03:16love he had for his parents,
00:03:20it is obvious that here the explanation
00:03:23from the psychological sphere participates,
00:03:26because the first explanation is that he did it to collect the pension. Many
00:03:30people have collected pensions and have
00:03:33been exposed of parents who have
00:03:36passed away, no one needs to put a person in the freezer for
00:03:39this, they simply avoid reporting the
00:03:43death to the competent authorities and continue to
00:03:46collect the pension. Uh, now,
00:03:50this is certainly involved in this matter,
00:03:53there is involvement of
00:03:56psychopathology, it is not a normal thing.
00:04:00Keeping a person in the freezer, of course, has happened
00:04:03in some cases where there was no issue of collecting
00:04:07a pension, mainly for young people from their mother or
00:04:10parents, this has been recorded. He will face a
00:04:14charge of embezzlement of money,
00:04:17a misdemeanor because the time period is short and the amount does
00:04:21not exceed the monetary limit for it to be
00:04:24a felony, but we will also have to see what this person will say in
00:04:27court, what explanation he gives.
00:04:32dead also, so, uh, obviously, look, it causes
00:04:35horror, a horrible image,
00:04:38but I don't, in my opinion, we said
00:04:41now, from the outside, giving interpretations
00:04:44is always risky, but
00:04:48I think it is more involved in the psychological sphere of the accused
00:04:51rather than
00:05:27and there are some indicative images that you have
00:05:30also published, regarding
00:05:33citizens who rent boats, they are on an island,
00:05:37they want to have a good time, they rent a boat to go for a ride, the
00:05:40point is that the other person must know how to operate a boat and how to
00:05:44navigate, and here we have cases, we saw the shot
00:05:47in a while, we will see it again, we see here indicatively,
00:05:51uh, that the other person just takes the boat, whoever
00:05:54dies, as the saying goes, in the axle a few days ago here,
00:05:58here we see Mr. Andritsos in all places, in all islands, boats
00:06:02being rented without a speed boat
00:06:05operator's license, I have been shouting
00:06:08for years that it is not possible to rent any
00:06:12kind of floating craft at sea without a speed boat license
00:06:15or without someone who will do the steering,
00:06:19an operator who knows, has a license, so people who have them can
00:06:23have two choices, unfortunately I say it again and again, nothing
00:06:26has changed, that's why you see continuous
00:06:29accidents and problems in this area and it is not
00:06:33an isolated incident, in every island
00:06:36we see the same things because they are small
00:06:40children, they are people who have no knowledge and we simply
00:06:43give them a floating craft for 50-100€ to
00:06:46go around the island, so I will
00:06:50give a child tomorrow my car and tell him to go for a
00:06:54ride so that people understand, just go for a ride in
00:06:57Athens, take your scooter, take your car, you don't need a license,
00:07:01go and take your ride and here we are talking about being in the sea, so
00:07:04you understand that for checks to be carried out,
00:07:08for checks to be carried out, initially there must be 100%
00:07:12staffing in all port services, at this
00:07:16moment, I, who travel all over Greece, do not see
00:07:19100% staffing, so we have low
00:07:23staffing levels in all port services, on the
00:07:26other hand, we see that there are floating craft, there are cars, but there is no
00:07:30human resource to be able to do shifts at sea, to go out and
00:07:33carry out many checks, so here we see that if there is
00:07:37personnel, then to staff the port
00:07:41services together with some changes in
00:07:43legislation, safety at sea will come as it is on land, which is constantly
00:07:47updated, the road traffic code,
00:07:51the frameworks are tightened, you saw with the scooters, you see with the cameras,
00:07:54steps are being taken, we should consider that in the sea, the safety
00:07:57rules and all the data have not been updated since
00:08:011950 and since 1970, and in
00:08:04terms of infrastructure, but also in terms of safety rules
00:08:08at sea, it needs updating, as you say. if
00:08:12it is legislation from 1960, that is,
00:08:15well, it is understood that things have changed,
00:08:18the data has changed, the issue, you know what happens, that
00:08:22the legislation is what it is, the checks and
00:08:25the staffing are what they are, the issue, however, is
00:08:29also regarding those who rent, I mean that it is not
00:08:32enough for someone to simply have the money to come and rent a boat and
00:08:36I think also for the companies themselves at the end of
00:08:39the day the damage they will suffer will be multiplied. when they
00:08:43give the boat indiscriminately to someone, just because he pays the
00:08:46price, that is, apart from the safety itself for the other
00:08:50bathers and so on, it also has to do with the
00:08:54company itself, that from a certain point onwards there must also be
00:08:57some seriousness on this issue, the fact is,
00:09:01Mr. Andritsos, when someone gives you the right to
00:09:04do this, that is, to make money without having to
00:09:08ask for a license, you do it, now they have insurance, no matter what...
00:09:12happens, they say, even if you crash it into a rock, no matter what happens, there is insurance,
00:09:16it will cover it, I get my money, no one obliges me to
00:09:20give it with a license, so they say uncontrollably, I give it to everyone
00:09:23and go out, beaches, bathers, islands, that is,
00:09:27there is all this thing that is also a problem for us, because people
00:09:31don't know the rules, they pass in front of the boats, because they think they
00:09:35are playing by passing in front of the boats, that is, they go
00:09:39near the beaches, near the bathers, that is, they don't know. and
00:09:42they think it's a means of play and entertainment, unfortunately, as
00:09:46you have seen every time we say it, it's not
00:09:49entertainment and a game, it's a very serious
00:09:52issue that needs to be resolved at some point,
00:09:55indeed, we keep all these things, Mr. Valis, be well, thank
00:09:58you very much, thank you very much, have a beautiful
00:10:02day, be well, let's have safe seas, that's what we want, just as
00:10:05we want to have safe roads, we want to have safe seas above
00:10:09all and for that everyone must do
00:10:13what is necessary, isn't it? What needs to be done, we cannot each do as we please, we do not
00:10:50but today morning here, indeed, indeed, uh,
00:10:53I imagine apart from the.
00:10:56for today's Saviour's Day, there is also great satisfaction, I see it on
00:11:00your face, Mr. Deputy Minister, for what was signed yesterday at the
00:11:04Maximos Mansion, because finally the whole
00:11:07process around the cable seems to be unstuck,
00:11:11without a doubt, the involvement of MerinDM yesterday in this project is a
00:11:14very important and undoubtedly positive development, essentially a
00:11:18big giant, a technological giant like MerinDM is entering this
00:11:22important project and gives a big. What
00:11:25does this mean practically? That you know once again that the electrical interconnection
00:11:29of Greece, Cyprus and Israel is a European project, Greece's
00:11:33goal is to create a European energy
00:11:36highway in the Mediterranean that will essentially connect Europe
00:11:40electrically via Greece with the Middle East and at the same time will
00:11:43lift Cyprus out of its energy isolation.
00:11:47Secondly, it is a project that upgrades our country's energy
00:11:51position. Practically, then, the arrival of MerinDM here, what does it mean?
00:11:55That it gives a vote of confidence to ADMIE, who has done
00:11:58important work and this is recognized by technological
00:12:01giants, but it also gives a vote of confidence to the energy policy that this government has been pursuing
00:12:04for many years. What do all these together mean? That the project
00:12:08is safe. The arrival of MerinDM therefore
00:12:12essentially accelerates the process, undoubtedly facilitates
00:12:16the leveraging of capital, which is important for us to be able to
00:12:19proceed, and constitutes an important economic and technical
00:12:22development which will send the project many steps
00:12:26forward, so we are absolutely happy and satisfied with this
00:12:29development, which the Greek government fully credits, and let's
00:12:33also bring Mr. Filis into the discussion to explain to us the importance of the
00:12:37signing because many pieces are unlocked
00:12:40in a particularly complex puzzle, if we could call it that,
00:12:44in the region with a strong economic and geopolitical footprint, and as we heard
00:12:48from Mr. Hadzivasiliou, we have a vote of confidence from France, in
00:12:52this case it is indeed
00:12:55a very positive development which comes in
00:12:58continuation, or rather tries to correct some mistakes that
00:13:02were made in the past. I will tell you exactly what I mean.
00:13:06About two years ago, around this time, we tried
00:13:10to conduct some seabed surveys, which is a
00:13:12prerequisite, a stage before the implementation and
00:13:16laying of the cable, south of Kasos.
00:13:20Uh, the action was prevented then
00:13:23by Turkey and for two years the
00:13:26GSI case was in a suspended
00:13:30state, a limbo state, where
00:13:34on the one hand we had a not inability, but
00:13:37willingness from the companies
00:13:41involved to take the next steps, let's
00:13:44note here for our viewers that until today 60%
00:13:47of the seabed surveys have been completed, that is, all
00:13:51those that were within Greek territorial waters and...
00:13:55Cypriot territorial waters and 40% remains, which
00:13:58is from the six nautical miles south of Kasos
00:14:02up to the west of Cyprus, the 12. which are the territorial
00:14:06waters of Cyprus, because Cyprus has 12. territorial waters, no
00:14:09seabed research has been done. This was a
00:14:12condition that gave Turkey somehow a say in the
00:14:15project. And there was also a very strong disagreement from
00:14:19Cyprus that had nothing to do with the project itself, but with
00:14:23business and financial interests within the Cypriot Republic, which
00:14:27did not wish for its implementation. You do well to remind us of this, because
00:14:30we also remember the exchange of announcements that had taken place
00:14:34between Athens and Nicosia regarding this specific
00:14:37project. It was an awkward way for our Cypriot
00:14:41brethren to deal with their own internal issues that had no
00:14:45relation to Greece, but showed that they did not give a vote of confidence to the
00:14:49project. So what happened or what is happening since yesterday and we must credit
00:14:52the government and ADMIE and the president and managing
00:14:56director of ADMIE, Mr. Manousakis, who took specific actions in this
00:15:00direction. What happened is that we have the involvement
00:15:03of a company that has know-how
00:15:07in the field of energy infrastructure and in financing
00:15:10energy infrastructure, a company that does not come from just any country, but
00:15:14comes from France, that is, it is
00:15:17a state that, besides being a Mediterranean country, has an energy
00:15:20presence in the Eastern Mediterranean,
00:15:23along with France. This specific area certainly has an energy
00:15:27presence, it has, excuse me, a naval presence, apart from an energy one, in the
00:15:30Eastern Mediterranean, I remind you that when Greece very aptly after the
00:15:34attack on the Cypriot Republic in the first days of the war.
00:15:37found itself in Cyprus, France
00:15:41followed, I note for our viewers that there is also a defense
00:15:44agreement that we recently renewed with France, article
00:15:47two of which states that France
00:15:50will assist Greece in case our sovereignty is called into
00:15:54question, I mean that here there is a strategic relationship with the French and
00:15:58certainly and certainly the fact that this company has
00:16:01received the approval and support of the French government means
00:16:05that or we expect that. within the
00:16:08autumn we will have again the seabed
00:16:11surveys that remain, that is, this 40% until the
00:16:15plan reaches a phase of maturity and begins to
00:16:18be implemented. Its implementation was stated very aptly earlier by Mr. Hadjivasiliou,
00:16:22I additionally mention and complement that beyond
00:16:25taking Cyprus out of the energy periphery, which is why it was
00:16:29perplexing why some in Cyprus were fighting this
00:16:33plan, it naturally upgrades the position of both Greece and
00:16:37Cyprus, because we are talking about an electrical interconnection that
00:16:40essentially connects the Eastern Mediterranean with Europe. Exactly what you are saying, Mr.
00:16:44Hadjivasiliou, indeed our country with
00:16:47this, with the completion of this particular project, we are talking about an energy
00:16:50gateway for the European Union and at the same time,
00:16:53having previously shielded,
00:16:57through the agreements that have preceded with France,
00:17:01so we see a new environment being formed in this
00:17:04regard. However, I was looking at yesterday's
00:17:07announcement from PASOK, the Movement for Change, regarding the
00:17:10cable, reminding us of the timeline, stating that
00:17:14this process started in 2009, it moved a step further in
00:17:172013, then with
00:17:20Yiannis Maniatis, and this project should have been completed
00:17:24in 2021, however, what the opposition tells you
00:17:28is that the timetable must be kept, good
00:17:30signings, but let's see the continuation. First of all, this
00:17:34cable is part of a wider plan. that
00:17:38the government is promoting so that the country can become a real energy hub, let's not
00:17:41forget that we have natural gas infrastructures in Alexandroupolis with the vertical
00:17:45corridor that we have essentially changed the
00:17:49course of the corridor, at one point we were talking about sending energy resources from the North
00:17:52to the South, now we are talking about sending energy from the South to the North, so our
00:17:56country plays a very important role there too, we have the
00:17:59Greece-Egypt cable, let's not forget it, the EuroAfrica Interconnector, which will essentially connect
00:18:02Europe and Africa through our country, and now we also have the
00:18:06Greece and... as I said earlier, it will connect Europe with the Middle
00:18:10East. All these upgrade the country's position and
00:18:13essentially make it an energy hub, not in words, but in
00:18:17deeds with specific actions. Regarding this cable that we
00:18:20are discussing, what we are essentially doing is
00:18:23bringing in a giant who offers expertise,
00:18:27experience and especially reliability. MerinDM
00:18:30is a company that manages a portfolio worth 100
00:18:34billion. with 130 projects in
00:18:37every corner of the planet, I say this to illustrate my list
00:18:41of projects it has undertaken, it has connected Britain with Germany for example
00:18:44in the high speed line in France or the
00:18:48Trump in Florence, generally various types and scales
00:18:52of projects, but a short answer to this
00:18:54yes, the opposition tells you that you are late and you are very
00:18:58late for a project, a project that they started in
00:19:012009. For a very long time, the opposition
00:19:05accused us and it is proven at this moment that it did.
00:19:09Because all this time that some from the opposition were saying that the government either
00:19:12is not dealing with it or has changed tactics or has decided to abandon the
00:19:16project, they are simply refuted. During this time,
00:19:19you understand that serious discussions and efforts were made in order to bring in
00:19:23a serious investor such as MRIDM to leverage
00:19:27capital and to gain credibility, therefore all
00:19:30those who unfairly accused
00:19:33the government, what do they have to say today about the fact that a
00:19:36French international company is entering the game of
00:19:40the Greece-Cyprus-Israel cable, essentially bringing capital
00:19:44and above all giving a vote of confidence to our
00:19:47country, but also to the project. Let them therefore leave
00:19:51aside their petty thinking and small-mindedness, let them see reality as
00:19:54it truly is and let them admit that the government today has
00:19:57achieved a significant positive development. Let's
00:20:01also go to the Middle East to see if
00:20:04we see any light at the end of the tunnel because
00:20:07I don't know if you have noticed, we discussed it a bit
00:20:11among ourselves with Nikos this morning, we have lost count as to
00:20:14how many times the American president has told us that we are close
00:20:18to an agreement on the Straits of Hormuz, hour by hour, day by day
00:20:22it goes, Mr. Filis, that is, yes, should we expect
00:20:25something, the truth is that we too find it difficult to
00:20:28follow and keep up with the
00:20:32American president, because the transformations are Ovidian, not
00:20:36within... a framework of weeks but
00:20:39days, not to say hours. My
00:20:42conviction for a long time is
00:20:46that even if we see an escalation that I saw
00:20:50anyway in the past few days, at the end of the
00:20:53day, both sides, both Iran and the United
00:20:56States, desire de-escalation, each for its
00:20:59own reasons. Iran is in an objectively
00:21:03very difficult economic situation, the
00:21:06regime, as long as it cannot pay
00:21:09wages, as long as it cannot supply the
00:21:12economy, loses supporters, loses
00:21:16followers, even those who know that in case
00:21:20of the regime's fall, they will be the first to
00:21:22be targeted. It is also very
00:21:26likely that in the immediate future there will be issues even in the
00:21:29medical and pharmaceutical care of Iranians. So the
00:21:33news is not good for the Iranian regime, despite the
00:21:36fact that today, as we speak, it seems to be the one dictating its terms for
00:21:40a basic reason, because it managed by closing the Strait of Hormuz
00:21:44to transform it into its ultimate nuclear weapon, even if it has not acquired nuclear weapons.
00:21:48Exactly, and by bringing the United
00:21:51States to an absolute deadlock, Mr. Andritsos, it is a consequence
00:21:54of the strategic ambiguity
00:21:57of the Americans from the beginning of the war, it is a result
00:22:00of the Americans' decision to get involved in a war that for them was a war
00:22:04of choice, while for Israel it was a war of necessity, and it is also
00:22:07a consequence of the, I
00:22:10would say, various, not
00:22:13mutations, so to speak, of President Trump, precisely
00:22:16because he had no entry and
00:22:20exit strategy. To conclude, I would say that the Americans, for their part, would
00:22:23like to find a solution, but this solution, it
00:22:27seems, regarding the Strait of Hormuz, will be
00:22:30an agreement between Iran and Oman, which
00:22:33will hardly satisfy the Americans. Of course, the American president, we must
00:22:37say, because he is primarily a businessman and secondarily a politician, will
00:22:40try in every way to present it as a great victory,
00:22:44moreover, even these are, but he is also
00:22:47a businessman, he is a businessman. I don't know if he will
00:22:50be able to succeed in bringing the United States into this game, that is, if
00:22:54he cannot resist the scenario of
00:22:57the end, perhaps because he is also unpredictable, no one can know what to
00:23:01expect from him, he is also a businessman, maybe he will drag the United States into this game. The
00:23:05United States would like to be in this game, only
00:23:08we must keep in mind that if
00:23:12the cost of using, or rather, the narrow
00:23:15strait of Hormuz, increases so much, the next step will
00:23:19be for... everyone to seek to bypass it, which is why
00:23:22we saw the Houthis attack a Saudi
00:23:26Arabian-owned ship yesterday, because if one looks at the
00:23:29map, they will realize that the way to bypass the Strait of
00:23:32Hormuz is through the Red Sea, especially for Saudi Arabia, which
00:23:36is exactly something that the Iranians do not want. At the end of the
00:23:39day, if you allow me, yes, in the long
00:23:43run, probably the Strait of Hormuz will lose its
00:23:46importance and usefulness it had until today because.
00:23:50the costs will be so high and the environment so
00:23:53precarious that everyone will seek some other way, some
00:23:57bypass so as not to depend on it, provided, of course, someone
00:24:00will note, provided the Suez remains open, but that is another
00:24:03matter, another discussion. I want to
00:24:06add to what Mr. Filis said, that for us, the priority is for the Strait of
00:24:10Hormuz to remain open.
00:24:13Absolutely no tolls, as we say for Greece, which is a naval
00:24:16power, this is a priority and a stable position of Greece. Order
00:24:28and free movement in the region, which for us is a matter of vital importance. Moreover, now before
00:24:32we conclude, and because I see you intensely preparing, Ms.
00:24:36Hatzivassiliou, the Greek presidency, the second
00:24:38half of the year on July 1, 2027,
00:24:42it seems far away, but the countdown has
00:24:45begun, and the Greek presidency
00:24:49also needs serious preparation. European presidencies, especially
00:24:52the Greek ones, where we have a tradition of successful presidencies, if you'll
00:24:56allow me to say so, require serious preparation, so
00:25:00it's not an easy mission at all. You will have the
00:25:03aftermath of all this effort for an agreement in a
00:25:06fiscal environment with large countries, large economies having
00:25:09elections next year, and foreign
00:25:12policy. The preparation started a
00:25:16very long time ago from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and from the minister and the
00:25:19deputy minister. Now we come to build essentially and continue the good
00:25:22work that has been done. Our priorities are very specific. First of all, we are talking about
00:25:26defense and security with a 360° approach. As
00:25:30the Prime Minister and the government have said, our goal is to
00:25:33protect our external borders in the north, south, east,
00:25:36west, from every danger, whether traditional,
00:25:40hybrid, or modern. Secondly,
00:25:42competitiveness. This is our big issue today. As the Greek
00:25:46presidency, we want to send messages that Europe must
00:25:50close the technological gap that separates it from
00:25:53other powerful economies on the planet, and this
00:25:56includes the multiannual financial framework that you rightly mentioned, that
00:26:00apparently in Greece, maritime.
00:26:02the discussion should be completed and the new multiannual
00:26:06financial framework for the next seven years should be ratified, and there the government has a
00:26:09specific position that we must simultaneously support both
00:26:12traditional policies along with modern ones, meaning we should not simply
00:26:16focus on technology and
00:26:19abandon agricultural policy, fisheries policy, we must have
00:26:23balanced funding, and this is the official Greek position. And thirdly,
00:26:27we are talking about safety at sea, you also mentioned it earlier, because for
00:26:30Greece, it is a priority to have.
00:26:33and for the application of international law in every critical
00:26:37point. These are our priorities which we present
00:26:40to our partners in Europe, and I believe that in the coming period we will
00:26:44have the opportunity to elaborate on the significant
00:26:47Greek intervention and to conclude this with a very brief comment and both of you
00:26:50are very important. The intervention that was made regarding the
00:26:54migration issue and what we saw in Ceuta with the positions of the
00:26:57Greek side, so we keep that in mind because it is an issue that
00:27:01will certainly be discussed. and the presidency, so it is among our individual
00:27:05actions, obviously also the migration issue, what happened in Ceuta reminds us of what
00:27:09Greece has been saying for a very long time. Yes, to the
00:27:12effective protection of Europe's external borders. No
00:27:15compromise on how we guard our external
00:27:19borders. Greece has paid a very heavy price for this issue in the past.
00:27:22However, in the recent period we have been following a policy that is
00:27:26strict and fair and no talk about Schengen.
00:27:30We do not believe that we are at the right time. Mr.
00:27:37Fili, telephonically, for the closing, for free and safe navigation, Greece
00:27:41must take the initiative and find initiatives and be at the forefront
00:27:45of these. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain cannot take
00:27:49initiatives and we are not, I repeat, at the center.
00:28:02On this, since you mentioned it, at a European level, and it is also your
00:28:06duty, Europeans should change their opinion on how
00:28:09they perceive the security of Europe,
00:28:12because they are monothematically and unilaterally focused on Russia and Ukraine, not that
00:28:16this is not the main priority, as if there is no Middle East, as if there is no Eastern
00:28:20Mediterranean, as if there is no South, and since we are talking about the South in relation to the refugee
00:28:24and migrant issues, what we observe, also with the case of
00:28:27Ceuta, is that there is no European
00:28:30solidarity, it's approximately as.
00:28:42there are still many things that can be done not only at a European
00:29:15Niko, what we are truly seeing is that it's around 8:30
00:29:19in the morning and the beach here in Alimos is already full of people, the
00:29:22temperature is around 28°C, so
00:29:25you understand that despite the fact that it's very early in the morning, there are people
00:29:29coming to enjoy the sea, to swim and of course. to
00:29:32cool off, because we see that in the coming days and hours we will have even
00:29:36higher temperatures, it will reach around 30 to
00:29:3935°C, so people come to enjoy the cool, those who
00:29:42have stayed in Athens, of course, because we saw yesterday and this morning that many
00:29:46are getting on a boat and leaving to go on their summer
00:30:47Giannis with Iani and Giorgos Kalogiannis for
00:30:51that reason, I suppose, but I have to tell you that right now, where I'm walking on the
00:30:54sand in Alimos, until 11:30 or
00:30:5812, there won't be anyone.