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00:00:00tanks that, for example,
00:00:02ah
00:00:05So look at this meaning as a reservoir state, its generation
00:00:08increased
00:00:10from 40 to nearly
00:00:14100, and more,
00:00:18and we also
00:00:19to exaggerate this provided Sudan, the occurrence of massacres in the occurrence of disasters in spare parts
00:00:23and aids to increase
00:00:25adorn this the Sayed reservoir, the Sennar reservoir.
00:00:28By the way, we have
00:00:33and their rejection of this reality affect projects for this reservoir, meaning if suitable conditions and funding are available, God willing,
00:00:37we will immerse this country
00:00:40with sufficient
00:00:45the National Television from energy. Okay, Mr. Minister, what
00:00:48prevents the transition from
00:00:50and pressured radical solutions to these emergency solutions permanently?
00:00:53Well, I don't want to explain
00:00:56much, but of course, there are intersections.
00:01:00There are intersections of funding, and there are also
00:01:03intersections that are
00:01:07related
00:01:10to the fact that
00:01:12we focused on projects that will be completed
00:01:16quickly. Okay,
00:01:19Mr. Minister, what is the size of the financial
00:01:22and the borders of Ethiopia with and technical needs required to end the crisis?
00:01:25I am talking about funding and money. Well, these stories,
00:01:28this intervention in of course, any sector like
00:01:32the electricity sector needs
00:01:35We have reached the end of today's episode continuous support.
00:01:38This is not a matter of you
00:01:42saying, "I need such and such at this
00:01:46time."
00:01:48الحمد لله in The matter
00:01:49results on concerns
00:01:53ensuring the continuity of electricity in an appropriate manner, and any
00:01:56equipment or generators
00:02:01what happened or tanks need continuous maintenance and care. But
00:02:05weapons and the coming period
00:02:07on projects that
00:02:11are represented in hydropower generation
00:02:15projects. Okay, before thermal generation,
00:02:19well, is there any clear
00:02:22timeline, Mr. Minister, to re-qualify the entire national grid?
00:02:26Yes, we have, plans.
00:02:30Of course, we said short-term
00:02:33or short,
00:02:36and we have medium-term plans, and there are
00:02:39many plans that we have started on,
00:02:42such as maintaining the connecting line
00:02:44calculations require time I said this is part of between us and some neighboring countries
00:02:47and increasing its capacity
00:02:49as well. Okay, Mr.
00:02:54that these people Minister, let me ask one last question.
00:02:57Tell me in a minute, please, or less. About cooperation with
00:03:01international bodies or specialized companies in this sector, your efforts in this
00:03:05regard. Well, of course, we
00:03:07now have
00:03:10cooperation with
00:03:13friendly countries and countries that
00:03:18that time and came with have shown their assistance to us in these
00:03:20circumstances,
00:03:23such as Turkey, Egypt,
00:03:26Saudi Arabia,
00:03:28it well in Russia, Belarus,
00:03:32and some other countries that provide
00:03:35us with a lot of support from attempts
00:03:38and even technical consultations.
00:03:42And people
00:03:45of massacres in know that there
00:03:46some villages from were factories for cables and transformers,
00:03:50and we agreed with
00:03:52have an effect. The whole world is not our partners or these countries to rehabilitate these
00:03:56factories or or
00:04:01Engineer Consultant Mutasim Ibrahim, Minister of Energy and Petroleum.
00:04:05Thank you very much. May God bless
00:04:08you and my greetings to the citizens. And God willing,
00:04:12talking about a grim picture in we assure them that we are
00:04:15is that, while up to the challenge, and God willing, electricity will witness a noticeable improvement in the near future, God willing.
00:04:42whether the weapons stop or not, whether they stop from
00:04:52other means
00:09:58Welcome back to Sudan Tonight. In another file, the Senate
00:10:02pressures and Sudan is at the heart of the American debate. The war file in Sudan
00:10:05witnessed a new development after 21
00:10:09Democratic members of the US Senate
00:10:12sent a letter to the US Secretary of State,
00:10:16calling for more effective action to prevent a recurrence of what
00:10:20they described as mass atrocities, warning of
00:10:24the risks to the White House. The letter also included
00:10:27calls for action against external parties that
00:10:31the signatories said were contributing to the continuation of the conflict, and demanded
00:10:35that the US administration move beyond statements of
00:10:38concern to from statements of
00:10:41concern to practical steps. So
00:10:44what are the implications of this letter, and does it represent a shift in the American position
00:10:47on the war in Sudan, and what are its potential repercussions
00:10:51on the course of the conflict and regional relations? Welcome
00:10:55and I welcome my guest, Professor Makki Al-Maghrebi, a journalist
00:10:58and political analyst. Welcome, good evening, Professor
00:11:01Makki.
00:11:05And greetings to you and all viewers of
00:11:10Khartoum. We start this time with
00:11:14greetings, Mr. Makki. Let me ask,
00:11:17what is the importance of this letter from
00:11:2021 members of the US Senate,
00:11:24and what is the timing of this memorandum?
00:11:27Ah,
00:11:30the value of this memorandum
00:11:34is that it clearly and explicitly stated
00:11:37that the UAE is funding the Rapid
00:11:40Support Forces. Clearly and explicitly,
00:11:44is this the first time? It is not the first time, but
00:11:47this is the clearest time, and it mentioned
00:11:51the UAE about three to four times, as it was attached
00:11:55to the order recommending
00:11:57pressure that could reach
00:12:00preventing it from receiving American
00:12:03so on. Okay, but
00:12:07brother Shifa, I don't want people to rely too much
00:12:11on saying that it is an effort from its people,
00:12:14and that America itself, an ally of the UAE, testified against it, and that
00:12:18it is the one funding the Rapid Support Forces, and it is the one arming the Rapid
00:12:22Support Forces. This memorandum also mentioned mercenaries, but
00:12:26in the period between December 10
00:12:30and December 20, when the battles were around Wad
00:12:33Madani and Congress moved and
00:12:37the same group from Congress moved,
00:12:41their number was 10, and they pointed fingers
00:12:45at the UAE, and the letter was addressed to the UAE's Foreign
00:12:48Minister, and they stated in it that
00:12:51the UAE is the one arming and supporting the Rapid Support Forces.
00:12:55Even though this happened and the Rapid
00:12:59Support Forces were at the gates of Madani, and Ambassador John Godfrey
00:13:02at that time was speaking and issuing statements, an American
00:13:06spokesperson was speaking, but at that
00:13:09the prelude to the fall of
00:13:11Madani,
00:13:13and that whoever wrote in that time
00:13:17that he thinks these
00:13:20statements are a bias towards the Sudanese
00:13:24side and preventing the Rapid Support Forces, he is mistaken because, quite
00:13:28simply, in September, they punished
00:13:31Abdel Rahim Dagalo and did not stop their allies from
00:13:35supporting him.
00:13:38Ambassador John Godfrey, in his statement that preceded
00:13:43Congress and others, I wrote
00:13:46some of it in an article talking about how the thread
00:13:50is the statements of the US Ambassador, because
00:13:53the US Ambassador at that time spoke about a situation
00:13:57in Wad Madani that did not exist. He spoke about large-scale
00:14:01displacement, which had not happened,
00:14:04large-scale displacement.
00:14:08What was happening was that
00:14:11the east, because the east at that
00:14:14time had entered into
00:14:18the militia's occupation, were coming
00:14:20to the Wad Madani area, and therefore it was not happening, and he
00:14:24spoke about a grim picture that did not exist,
00:14:28as if he was paving the way for public opinion for what is happening
00:14:31now from statements here and there, organizations
00:14:37El Obeid. So my conclusion
00:14:40confirming that direct condemnations
00:14:45Congress against the armed party
00:14:48of the militia, at least, have media,
00:14:52diplomatic, and legal value, the on-the-ground value
00:14:55points fingers
00:14:59at the United States of America's
00:15:03covering up and reluctantly giving the green light
00:15:06to a continuous plan that has not stopped
00:15:10to harass the city of El Obeid and overthrow it.
00:15:13I believe they have
00:15:17they will resort to after failing in direct means,
00:15:20and the worst-case scenario is that they want to ignite
00:15:23a war between Ethiopia and Eritrea
00:15:27and drag the Red Sea into a labyrinth
00:15:29of wars. For me, this is clear, because
00:15:33now America, on one hand, is bringing
00:15:40closer and lifting sanctions from it,
00:15:43and news about its support for Eritrea against Ethiopia, and at the same
00:15:47time, Israel
00:15:49and its allies are standing with Ethiopia
00:15:52and inciting it against Eritrea. So the issue is a division of roles
00:15:56to fuel the war in the region.
00:15:59In this specific point, and the expected outbreak of war
00:16:03between Ethiopia and Eritrea, how
00:16:06will this
00:16:09the war in Sudan and the situation in Sudan
00:16:12and the security of the region? Firstly,
00:16:15the first point is that this confirms
00:16:19that they are striving to drag the region into
00:16:22wars, this is confirmed.
00:16:24And that they
00:16:26mean peace talks and visits by Mustaeed Boules
00:16:30and others are aids to prepare the situation
00:16:33and to prepare the ground for the war that
00:16:37will happen to them. This is the first point. So their current
00:16:41direction is not a direction of peace. This is the
00:16:43first point. The second point
00:16:47is that the policy of dispersing the parties when it comes
00:16:50to Sudan and infects it with an inflammatory
00:16:54disease on its eastern borders, from the beginning you are talking about
00:16:57the borders of Eritrea
00:17:00Sudan. You are talking about a region from Kurmuk to
00:17:04Damazin, a very long area, very long borders
00:17:07that will be inflamed on its eastern side.
00:17:11This will draw the Sudanese side to this side
00:17:14and thus loosen the grip of the Sudanese army,
00:17:17or so they think,
00:17:19from western Sudan, in addition
00:17:22to the scenarios, some of which were resolved
00:17:26the previous two days, which is the pumping of
00:17:29a large number of soldiers and equipment across the Libyan
00:17:32desert to Sudan, and they were dealt
00:17:36with. So
00:17:38whoever is mistaken, and I repeat
00:17:42this word as I repeated it in my article
00:17:45in December before the fall of
00:17:49Madani, is mistaken if he thinks that American statements
00:17:52are to stop the militia and to stop the aggressor against Sudan.
00:17:56Of course, in the column, I said "meaningless," I didn't say "mistaken," but
00:17:59for the purposes of television, let's say
00:18:02"mistaken." I also reiterate now that
00:18:06there is diplomatic, political,
00:18:09and media value to the position of Congress
00:18:13and its accusation and pointing fingers at the UAE
00:18:16and demanding a ban on weapons from it. There is value, but the on-the-ground
00:18:22the Sudanese army and military intelligence and the intelligence
00:18:25agency and citizens to
00:18:28expect
00:18:31still conspire against Sudan
00:18:33and want to pull it from its edges and want to continue
00:18:37the war without
00:18:41dreams of peace negotiations. Peace negotiations are
00:18:44a cover for the war, not to stop the war. Okay,
00:18:48let me ask, let me ask
00:18:51another question. In your opinion, what is the
00:18:54likelihood of the American administration responding to those demands contained in this
00:18:58letter and memorandum from these
00:19:00members? Okay, let me talk
00:19:04a little about
00:19:07the mechanism or tools of decision-making within
00:19:11Congress, and what is the internal
00:19:13value
00:19:16of the statements of representatives in Congress
00:19:19and their rejection and condemnation
00:19:22El Fasher and El Obeid and elsewhere. The matter
00:19:25is basically related to the internal position of these
00:19:28representatives, meaning that these representatives, if they know that
00:19:31there will be a massacre where 10,000 will be slaughtered
00:19:35tomorrow, it will not be their goal.
00:19:39Their goal will be that after two years, they will be re-elected
00:19:42in their constituencies. They must have
00:19:46an answer about what they did at that time. They will say, "We issued a memorandum,"
00:19:49and so on. Therefore, there is an internal
00:19:54American politics that dictates to members of Congress,
00:19:58not a revival of conscience or love for Sudanese people or
00:20:01a desire to stop the war, but they have internal
00:20:05motives to prove
00:20:07a voice of rejection of the UAE's support
00:20:11for the militia and a voice of rejection of
00:20:14crimes in Sudan. But whether they happen or not,
00:20:20the UAE, sending another country
00:20:23is not their concern. I mean, to simplify the meaning
00:20:26for the honorable viewer, let me give an example,
00:20:30or a funny Sudanese analogy. If a person
00:20:34knows that his friend will marry tomorrow,
00:20:38in addition to his wife, you will find him striving to go
00:20:42and eat inside the house and praising the food, and on the wedding day,
00:20:45he arranges a far trip for him so that he is not caught
00:20:49red-handed. Because he is part of
00:20:52the conspiracy.
00:20:55simple example,
00:20:58it is what these circles within
00:21:01Congress are doing. For them,
00:21:06El Fasher, the occurrence of massacres in El Obeid,
00:21:10the occurrence of anything, the fall of Wad Madani, for them,
00:21:13they must event
00:21:17with an elegant memorandum that talks
00:21:20about their humanity
00:21:23matter happening in Sudan. But governments of third
00:21:27world countries come and are deceived, meaning a lobbying company comes and tells
00:21:30a government, any government, "I strived and pressured Congress,
00:21:34and Congress issued a memorandum," or a friendly country comes and deceives
00:21:38Sudan and tells them, "I worked
00:21:40Congress and issued a memorandum." You worked for
00:21:44the benefit of these representatives and for their election campaigns
00:21:47after two years, until the last
00:21:54moments, we were trying, and we issued a memorandum,
00:21:58and we were upset and so on. This
00:22:01is not true. Okay, at this point, specifically, Mr.
00:22:03Makki, a memorandum can be utilized
00:22:07medially, politically, and diplomatically, but
00:22:11talking about a real transformation
00:22:14and a conscience that awakened on the American
00:22:17side. Okay, what happened? It woke up and slept again in December
00:22:212023 when Madani was not captured. The same representatives
00:22:25when they issued the same memorandum. Ah, okay, Mr.
00:22:28Makki, let me ask another question. How can these
00:22:32calls to review arms sales affect
00:22:35the course of the war? Will there be real and tangible
00:22:39the ground? No, the UAE
00:22:43is now part of Israel's Iron Dome, meaning it has entered
00:22:47into Israel's security framework entirely. This
00:22:50was mentioned by Western newspapers, and that the relationship now
00:22:53between the UAE and Israel is no longer just diplomatic relations or normalization,
00:22:57but rather a full strategic intelligence
00:23:00alliance, and that the security of the UAE is
00:23:04the security of Israel, and the security of Israel is the security of the UAE.
00:23:07Okay, and therefore, even
00:23:10if direct arms sales
00:23:13stop, the presence of weapons or American
00:23:17sales in the region has turned a blind eye
00:23:20to the transfer of advanced technology.
00:23:22Pulling the UAE from Israeli
00:23:26warehouses, involving Israel itself in the Sudanese
00:23:30problem, just as Qahat writes
00:23:34articles in the American media and in
00:23:37the Western media and appears in Israeli spaces,
00:23:40inciting Tel Aviv to
00:23:43classify Sudan or a group in Sudan as a terrorist
00:23:47group, of course, so that they can then move
00:23:50towards military intervention and involve
00:23:53Sudan in the Middle East arena. Therefore,
00:23:57I do not count at all on
00:23:59the approaching ban on weapons from the UAE,
00:24:03and I do not buy this story at all. What
00:24:06I want to emphasize is that what happened in this
00:24:09memorandum and in others has media,
00:24:12diplomatic, and political value, if Sudan utilizes
00:24:18legal
00:24:24forums and in open media work. Why?
00:24:27Because it can form a snowball
00:24:30that will roll and grow in size,
00:24:33and Sudan can triumph with that because
00:24:37media pressure, political pressure, and diplomatic pressure
00:24:42run only by deals, but when you are a member of Congress
00:24:46and
00:24:48you speak for Sudan, you are afraid of what? You are afraid of
00:24:52media pressure and you are afraid of political and diplomatic pressure.
00:24:56Therefore, when the pressure on you increases, the
00:24:58action increases. But if you applaud him and rejoice at what he said,
00:25:02he will be satisfied after that
00:25:06and the Sudanese government will be very generous
00:25:09with him, as is customary, if it issues a statement
00:25:12of welcome, because the statement of welcome will be taken
00:25:16as a certificate of innocence from the blood of the Sudanese people.
00:25:20When election season comes, he will say, "I made the memorandum
00:25:24and I did it and I moved," and the Sudanese government's
00:25:27foreign policy loved the position of Congress
00:25:31and the statement of Congress. Therefore, if I,
00:25:34if you followed me, I am very strict
00:25:37and very cautious in trying
00:25:41to satisfy the ego
00:25:44of the hostile or
00:25:47neutral circles towards Sudan, and we should not fall
00:25:50for these tricks and schemes
00:25:53that
00:25:55are completely false, even if some people
00:25:59adorn them. There are those who have an interest
00:26:02in adorning such things. I am not belittling them. I am saying that they can
00:26:06be a draft for good media, diplomatic, and legal
00:26:09work, and that Sudan should strive in it through its missions,
00:26:13through its foreign ministry, and through its external media, and through
00:26:17its advisors and experts.
00:26:19But for some
00:26:22achievement, that a mercenary company, a lobbying
00:26:25or PR mercenary company, that profits from Sudanese
00:26:29affairs, claims that it is behind this,
00:26:32or a friendly country or an intermediary between Sudan
00:26:36and America claims that it is behind this effort, or some
00:26:40individuals and people who
00:26:43say that without them, this achievement would not have happened.
00:26:47Yes, it is an achievement, but it is an achievement for
00:26:50the benefit of American representatives and members of Congress.
00:26:53Thank you very much, and quite simply, I repeat my question to you, brother
00:26:56Shifa, was a memorandum not issued by
00:27:00members of Congress accusing the UAE
00:27:03and addressing the request to the UAE's Foreign
00:27:06Minister to stop
00:27:10arming the Rapid Support Forces? This was in December
00:27:1319, December 2023,
00:27:15the morning after
00:27:18the fall of Madani. Thank you very much, Professor
00:27:22Makki Al-Maghrebi, journalist and political analyst.
00:27:26Time is up. I thank you very much for
00:27:31Sudan Tonight. Thank you very much, Mr.
00:27:33Makki.
00:27:38of Sudan Tonight. In conclusion, these are my greetings and the greetings of the work team. Goodbye.