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00:01:27many sectors use leakage into
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00:01:55of will that we saw in Peace, mercy, and blessings of God be upon you, and may God
00:01:56of life, especially in make your times good. Welcome
00:02:00to this new episode of "The Axis of Events," in which
00:02:03we will analyze and follow up on the latest,
00:02:07most important, and most prominent security, political, and military developments
00:02:11problems. So developing this related to Sudan, internally and externally. Welcome,
00:02:14and welcome to our guest for today's episode, Dr. Osman Hassan Osman,
00:02:17academic and political analyst. Welcome, Dr., and have a
00:02:21good day. Welcome, Professor Mayada.
00:02:24Greetings to you and the viewers of Sudan TV.
00:02:27I am
00:02:29even the war that was waged on very happy that we are back
00:02:33to our favorite program, "The Axis of Events."
00:02:35think moving in this Welcome. In fact, I am inside
00:02:37direction should be part of the TV station after an absence of three
00:02:41years.
00:02:43on electricity. That is, memories
00:02:47the problems in this and images came to my mind, and in fact, I noticed
00:02:51customs? Customs, in the traces of destruction and I noticed the new work
00:02:56problems that this in overcoming this situation. In fact, it led me to an important
00:02:59conclusion. That the Sudanese people
00:03:02possess the determination and
00:03:07question for this large scale of the will resulting from the deep experience of these
00:03:11look at the experiences of many people, extending for millions destruction that occurred in of years, that they are a people who do not give up
00:03:15and are capable of rising from
00:03:18the rubble with certainty, no matter how great the challenges are. So what I saw today
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00:03:25production and expand on Sudan TV, this transformation and this will
00:03:28and this determination that makes us
00:03:31predict that the future will be better, God willing. It is
00:03:36And I think this a stage where all efforts must be combined.
00:03:42a solution to this
00:03:42was one of first, at the national groups in this There are hands carrying weapons to protect the land and honor, and other hands working for construction and reconstruction
00:03:46and bringing life back to all aspects of life. Thank you, doctor, for
00:03:49this introduction. We begin our episode for today with
00:03:52the "Axis of Events" with our first file: the Ministry of Energy and Mining.
00:03:56Maintenance
00:03:59in the implementation of these projects. We conclude this used, especially in and operating teams at the Sudanese Electricity Generation Company are able to
00:04:02bring back a number of thermal generation units. The Ministry of
00:04:07customs, and taxes. Was it Energy and Mining stated that maintenance and operating teams
00:04:12threats and the continuation of the war in the capacity of workers in this at the Sudanese Electricity Generation Company committee now at this are able to bring back a number of
00:04:14thermal generation units to be added to the national grid
00:04:18after the fire that broke out at
00:04:20is a partner in many the Merowe Dam power station, which led to the dam's power supply
00:04:23being out of service. It added in a statement that
00:04:26the operation and connection of a number of generation units within the network,
00:04:30the world must after completing the technical procedures and necessary maintenance work, contributed
00:04:34to strengthening the stability of the electrical network
00:04:38by the government and reducing the effects of the Merowe Dam being out of service, noting that cable
00:04:43services in accessories and complementary the international connection equipment are on their way to the dam. Welcome again,
00:04:46Dr. Osman. How
00:04:48to do to preserve did you follow the efforts of the Ministry so that we ensure that this of Energy and Mining to restore thermal
00:04:52generation stations to the national grid after this major
00:04:57activity at this problem, which affected various states in
00:05:01Sudan? Yes, Professor
00:05:04and then we begin to address Mayada, we know, and all the Sudanese people
00:05:07know, that the major challenges
00:05:09that the Sudanese society and people
00:05:12have gone through were enormous,
00:05:15but every time, he proves that he is capable
00:05:19of developing solutions and overcoming
00:05:23these problems, whether by determination, effort, or coordination
00:05:26of efforts. We know that
00:05:29electricity is a
00:05:33very necessary condition for people's lives, and
00:05:37it is a basis for all
00:05:40reconstruction programs. What happened at the Merowe
00:05:44Dam, and
00:05:47regardless of what these
00:05:50situations led to, but
00:05:52the ability of electricity to find
00:05:56sources that maintain a reasonable
00:06:01electricity supply in some
00:06:03areas, this is something that
00:06:08the ability to
00:06:10find solutions. for sudden
00:06:14solutions or difficult
00:06:17problems. Therefore, I think these efforts are
00:06:21efforts that we hope will be integrated in
00:06:25order to move forward
00:06:28in a way that ensures an electricity supply until
00:06:32the dam is restarted
00:06:36and the supply is maintained
00:06:39in a good way. But in any case,
00:06:42I think
00:06:46the continuation of the electricity supply
00:06:49and under a very precise organization
00:06:53is necessary
00:06:58at the present time. Okay, Dr. Osman, in general, how do you view
00:07:01or assess
00:07:04the future of the energy sector in Sudan
00:07:07and what is required of it currently to solve these
00:07:11problems quickly? The power outage
00:07:14and its consequences and effects on all sectors is a major problem
00:07:17facing all Sudanese in all states of Sudan. Yes,
00:07:21we know
00:07:24and are experiencing
00:07:27the major problems that the electricity
00:07:30sector has gone through and is still going through. That is, we
00:07:34noticed that electricity, of course,
00:07:38is a basis for life, and therefore,
00:07:41Sudan targeted the electricity sector as
00:07:45of the channels that
00:07:48can directly affect
00:07:51the lives of citizens because all life has become dependent
00:07:55But
00:07:59sector, whether it is the direct
00:08:03targeting or
00:08:06the pattern of the
00:08:09sector is experiencing, we noticed a
00:08:12constant pattern that occurs every time. So this
00:08:16really requires the existence of appropriate
00:08:19technical
00:08:22capabilities that
00:08:25are capable of overcoming
00:08:28problems or finding solutions
00:08:30to problems at the required time. And we know
00:08:34that electricity in Sudan has a long
00:08:37history and has gone through various
00:08:40development stages, and
00:08:42also the experience has also told
00:08:45us about what this sector has been subjected to and what
00:08:49the technical
00:08:52sector have been subjected to in the past. So this the main
00:08:56problems in the electricity
00:09:00sector. In addition to
00:09:04the attention to this sector
00:09:07and the importance of this sector should be elevated
00:09:10to the top of priorities. Because the priorities of the citizen
00:09:14and the life of the citizen have become largely
00:09:18linked to electricity.
00:09:20Therefore, increasing
00:09:23sector and developing
00:09:26networks, whether for distribution
00:09:30or transmission or generation
00:09:33of electricity, should be
00:09:37a matter of great concern. I think that
00:09:40there is indeed a specialized electricity
00:09:44administration, but in light of
00:09:47the exceptional circumstances that Sudanese society
00:09:50is currently going through, in issues
00:09:54or services, any impact on them
00:09:57causes a very big disruption in people's lives and halts the pace of
00:10:01life. Therefore,
00:10:02attention to some
00:10:06sectors that are directly linked to the lives of citizens
00:10:09should be elevated to
00:10:13the level of national issues, meaning
00:10:15fundamental issues that receive
00:10:19attention at the highest levels.
00:10:21Therefore, all capabilities
00:10:25and needs for this sector must be provided
00:10:28to the extent that preserves
00:10:31this supreme national interest. So we have no
00:10:34greater interest than to preserve the lives of
00:10:37our citizens and to
00:10:41prepare the environment for citizens who
00:10:44have
00:10:47the land, some displaced and some refugees. Therefore, I
00:10:51think the general policy that the state is pursuing
00:10:55is to stabilize
00:10:58services, and one of the important services is
00:11:01electricity. Therefore, I think the problems
00:11:04in the electricity sector must be
00:11:07solved radically
00:11:10and be given sufficient attention
00:11:13because we have witnessed
00:11:16any impact on this service that directly
00:11:19affects people's lives and therefore affects
00:11:23the state's plans, programs, and policies that
00:11:26it is currently implementing in this exceptional stage
00:11:30of Sudan's life. So, Dr. Osman, it is known that Sudan's crisis or
00:11:34Sudan's electricity crisis is a heavy legacy from
00:11:37years ago. In your opinion, how
00:11:40can we, in the future, benefit from alternative
00:11:43energy projects that have proven
00:11:46to be a very suitable solution for many electricity
00:11:49problems in Sudan after
00:11:52alternative energy and many citizens
00:11:55in different states of Sudan. How can we look for
00:11:58alternatives for of course, we have noticed
00:12:02that this is a solution
00:12:05citizens have resorted to, and many
00:12:09service institutions have resorted to.
00:12:13It was a necessary condition to accelerate
00:12:16the process of return and the re-establishment
00:12:21the national capital or even in
00:12:25other cities that are
00:12:28stable. Therefore, I think alternative energy is
00:12:31clean energy, free from
00:12:36sector, we noticed that a decision was issued recently
00:12:40to exempt the basic
00:12:43inputs for solar energy, for example,
00:12:47from customs duties. I think this
00:12:50is a encouraging step
00:12:53for citizens to use
00:12:57alternative energy. Therefore, I
00:13:02the policy, and I believe it is so. From customs
00:13:06for citizens or for companies working in
00:13:09the field of alternative energy? Of course, this is for citizens.
00:13:13Why
00:13:16the end, are
00:13:19customs fees imposed on any
00:13:23imports. In the end, it falls
00:13:26on the citizen. So this determines the price.
00:13:30Yes, the price of this service. Therefore, I think
00:13:33exempting it, whether for individuals
00:13:36or for importing entities, just as
00:13:39there was an exemption for agricultural inputs,
00:13:43I think this is one of the things that encourages us. When we exempt agricultural inputs,
00:13:47we encourage people to increase
00:13:50agricultural production. And likewise,
00:13:53energy helps it
00:13:56spread over a large area.
00:14:01path is a reasonable path, and a large part
00:14:04of the citizens have now found
00:14:07issue, by the way. It's true, and even in the midst of
00:14:11the power outages that occur or the planned
00:14:14outages of the electricity grid,
00:14:18we have found solar energy widely
00:14:23service institutions. For example, hospitals,
00:14:26health centers,
00:14:30state institutions, institutions where
00:14:34power outages cause very big problems. We will stop at
00:14:38this point in this section, Dr. Osman, and we will move on,
00:14:41dear viewers, to the second file. Member of the Sovereignty Council
00:14:45Abdullah Yahya confirms the state's commitment to supporting
00:14:48reconstruction efforts to achieve the goals of the New Urban
00:14:52Agenda. Member of the Transitional Sovereignty Council, Abdullah
00:14:55Yahya Ahmed, affirmed the government's appreciation for the role of the National
00:14:59Council for Urban Development in formulating urban development policies
00:15:03to build a modern and stable Sudan.
00:15:06He reiterated the state's full commitment to supporting
00:15:09reconstruction efforts in cooperation between state institutions,
00:15:13the private sector, and regional and international partners
00:15:16to achieve the goals of the New Urban Agenda
00:15:20and sustainable development. His Excellency stated, in his
00:15:22address yesterday, at the opening of the 15th
00:15:26session of the National Council for Urban Development, that
00:15:29the country is going through a pivotal stage that requires
00:15:33uniting national efforts to reconstruct what the war destroyed
00:15:36and to build the human being before urban areas and to establish the foundations
00:15:40of sustainable development. The member of the Sovereignty Council said that
00:15:43nations are not built with money only, but are built
00:15:47with the will and sincerity of their sons and daughters, pointing
00:15:50out that reconstruction is a comprehensive
00:15:53national project that aims to revive cities, restore
00:15:56services, prepare the environment for the return of citizens, and enhance
00:16:00production and investment opportunities. Dr.
00:16:04Osman, the reconstruction file requires massive funding.
00:16:07In your opinion, what is the plan to finance a comprehensive
00:16:10national project of this magnitude? Are there national
00:16:14funds for reconstruction and investments, or
00:16:17are there plans to seek investments
00:16:21from Sudanese funders or
00:16:25foreign investments to support this matter within Sudan quickly,
00:16:29because in this stage, we need reconstruction
00:16:32and the return of life quickly, especially in the safe
00:16:36areas? Of course,
00:16:40the destruction inflicted by the rebellious
00:16:43militia on the country
00:16:46is great, and this
00:16:49destruction affected
00:16:52all components of society, whether
00:16:55its institutions, its
00:16:58urban buildings, or
00:17:01its archaeological and historical
00:17:04heritage and cultural memory.
00:17:08And even the Sudanese
00:17:10experience,
00:17:13what distinguishes it from things related to humanity,
00:17:17such as tolerance or values, all these things
00:17:21were destroyed. Therefore, reconstruction,
00:17:23as the member of the Sovereignty Council indicated, that
00:17:27the human being
00:17:31is a very significant indication that
00:17:34money alone is not enough. The human being himself,
00:17:37even the human psyche, was shattered.
00:17:41The children who witnessed
00:17:44the most heinous crimes that occurred in the neighborhoods or
00:17:48in front of their eyes. All of this, the historical
00:17:51Sudan was shattered in a
00:17:55big way. Therefore, reconstruction and reconstruction
00:17:59efforts are extremely important.
00:18:03So if we look at
00:18:06the destruction and aggression that took place,
00:18:09it was not just
00:18:12through the use of the sinful Sudanese hands
00:18:16that caused these damages to the country,
00:18:19but it was also with allies, whether they were local
00:18:23politicians or at the regional level
00:18:26or at the global level. Therefore, the extent
00:18:29of the destruction is great.
00:18:31So what are the channels
00:18:34and resources that we might
00:18:37need for the reconstruction of this huge
00:18:41scale? Yes, that is the real
00:18:46the country. And if we
00:18:49countries, the state alone,
00:18:52its capabilities are not enough
00:18:56for reconstruction, because the image that
00:18:59was shattered, and it is a cumulative
00:19:02thing of the country's wealth
00:19:05over many long years
00:19:08and development that continued for long periods.
00:19:10Therefore, the destruction inflicted upon it
00:19:14requires
00:19:17level, that the efforts of all
00:19:21Sudanese people
00:19:23be integrated, each according to his ability
00:19:27or area of interest, whether
00:19:30the state or the private sector.
00:19:33That is, this integration must be achieved.
00:19:37That is, the different roles must be integrated
00:19:40with each other and lead us to a result that helps in the
00:19:44reconstruction process. Also,
00:19:46Sudan is a country from the countries of the world,
00:19:49and whether at the regional level or at
00:19:52the international level, it
00:19:57regional and international
00:20:00organizations. And these bodies that
00:20:03regulate the world order. So the aggression that Sudan witnessed,
00:20:08contribute to the reconstruction of Sudan, whether
00:20:11through financial institutions
00:20:15and financial institutions at
00:20:18level or even at the state level, bilateral
00:20:22relations or at the regional level. Therefore, I
00:20:25think the matter requires us
00:20:28to organize
00:20:31Sudan's diplomatic
00:20:34level to attract funding
00:20:38to support various investments and
00:20:41reconstruction internally and with all transparency. How
00:20:44will the Sudanese state deal with conflicting
00:20:47interests
00:20:50between private
00:20:53companies and the state in
00:20:56reconstruction contracts to ensure that this matter proceeds
00:20:59smoothly and
00:21:01fairly between government companies
00:21:05and private sector companies? Of course, this is an important
00:21:08issue, because there is a lot of talk sometimes
00:21:12about the nature
00:21:13of the composition or the administrative
00:21:17mind and the organizational mind.
00:21:20In a country like Sudan, its components
00:21:23may be based on foundations that
00:21:26have not reached the level
00:21:30of complete objectivity or strict
00:21:32methodology. Therefore, I think we
00:21:35are pushed by the events
00:21:39and developments that our country is currently experiencing,
00:21:42and this is something that people rely on
00:21:45with hope in that
00:21:49it will pursue a policy and
00:21:53methods that ensure justice
00:21:56and ensure high efficiency
00:21:59in creating balanced opportunities between
00:22:03different sectors, whether at the private sector level
00:22:07or at the state level and state companies.
00:22:10And this matter is actually regulated by law.
00:22:14That is, how contracts are awarded
00:22:17to companies, whether local,
00:22:20national, or foreign. And the Ministry
00:22:23of Finance has systems capable.
00:22:26Laws exist, but is there oversight over these laws
00:22:30to implement the issue of reconstruction
00:22:33between government companies and private sector companies?
00:22:37Of course, this is an important question, as people sometimes talk
00:22:40about the legislative structure that regulates
00:22:43all relationships
00:22:47within society, especially those of an economic nature.
00:22:51That is available and exists, and sometimes people talk about
00:22:54the will, meaning the availability of true
00:22:56will
00:22:59to apply the law and adhere
00:23:02to regulations and procedures. But
00:23:05I think people sometimes talk about
00:23:09these issues from afar.
00:23:13I think talking from afar
00:23:16sometimes may not be accurate.
00:23:20And things like this, the state always
00:23:23fulfills the procedures through
00:23:26the system of institutions specialized in this
00:23:30activity. That is, oversight of work is a
00:23:34necessary matter. Announcing the work is a necessary
00:23:37matter. Fulfilling the required
00:23:41conditions that ensure efficiency
00:23:43in implementing
00:23:45projects as required, according to the conditions announced by the state, is
00:23:49a required matter. So in any case, I think
00:23:53the awareness that has been created for people now in
00:23:56light of the current war conditions
00:23:59is sufficient
00:24:02to make us adhere
00:24:05to reasonable limits in managing
00:24:09the reconstruction process. And we are currently talking
00:24:13about institutions or
00:24:15large reconstruction projects
00:24:19that have not yet been implemented
00:24:22or are currently under consideration
00:24:25and preparation, or even some projects have
00:24:29been contracted, but
00:24:32the work in them has not been completed. So all
00:24:35of this is subject to oversight,
00:24:38and activating oversight is
00:24:42a necessary matter to ensure transparency,
00:24:45integrity, and justice
00:24:49file, doctor. Dr. Osman, with a question that I think is important: What are the biggest
00:24:52challenges facing the construction sector or reconstruction
00:24:55projects in Sudan? Is it funding, corruption,
00:24:59or the continuation of security
00:25:02Sudan? Well, reconstruction
00:25:05is the biggest
00:25:09challenge facing it now.
00:25:12It is providing the reasons
00:25:15for stability for the citizen,
00:25:17and this is the main
00:25:21actor in reconstruction operations. So I
00:25:24think reconstruction projects
00:25:28primarily need to stabilize basic
00:25:33Sudanese society citizen
00:25:37who is present is able to play his role,
00:25:40and even the migrant citizen, whether
00:25:44a technician or a financier
00:25:47or a capitalist, returns to
00:25:51this country
00:25:54other challenges. There are very big challenges.
00:25:57That is, everything you mentioned is considered a challenge,
00:26:01because we cannot say that this is the main
00:26:05challenge. If we overcome
00:26:09it, but
00:26:11the system or the group of interconnected
00:26:14challenges are interconnected. That is, if
00:26:18money is the basis for us to provide money,
00:26:21money itself
00:26:25is the entry point for corruption. And if
00:26:28we talk about corruption,
00:26:31we find that corruption
00:26:34money
00:26:37which are not among the priorities
00:26:41as required. That is, if we were just talking
00:26:44about
00:26:47contracts, if money
00:26:50can lead to
00:26:54commitments to those with influence and not to those with competence
00:26:58and ability, this is if there are corrupt people. The corrupt
00:27:04does not follow correct procedures, and sometimes
00:27:08the process may occur in
00:27:10the framework of formal compliance
00:27:13with the objective conditions for these things. Therefore,
00:27:17fighting corruption, of course, is clear. Fighting corruption
00:27:20requires a firm commitment to applying
00:27:23the law. By the way, the absence of law is what allows
00:27:28wrong directions that contradict the
00:27:37application of the law on the ground. Of course, this is very
00:27:40important, and the existence of oversight bodies that are
00:27:43independent ensures that things
00:27:46will go smoothly. So in any case, I think reconstruction
00:27:50faces great challenges,
00:27:54but the challenge
00:27:58the workers here at the TV station, as we said at the beginning
00:28:00of this
00:28:02and the
00:28:08small sectors and people, when they face great
00:28:12challenges, God willing. We move on to the third file. The Prime
00:28:15Minister launches the work of the National Committee for Economic
00:28:19Management. The Prime Minister, Professor Kamal Idris, launched
00:28:23the work of the National Committee for Economic Management
00:28:26in Khartoum, in the presence of the Minister of Economy
00:28:30and the Special Representative of the President,
00:28:32Dr. Hussein Al-Khalifa Al-Siddiq Al-Hafyan, and the Prime Minister's advisor, Nizar
00:28:36Abdullah Muhammad, and the Governor of the Central Bank of Sudan, and the Secretary
00:28:40General of the Tax Chamber, and the Directors of Customs, Specifications,
00:28:43and the Central Authority of the Capital Markets Authority
00:28:47and a number of related parties. The Prime
00:28:51Minister emphasized the importance of the work of this committee
00:28:54for economic management in these exceptional circumstances
00:28:57that the country is going through. The meeting approved
00:29:00the tasks and terms of reference of the committee
00:29:02and its working methodology during the coming period. The committee aims
00:29:06to maintain overall economic stability, including
00:29:10curbing inflation, stabilizing the exchange rate,
00:29:13accelerating sustainable economic growth,
00:29:16increasing national productivity, and strengthening productive sectors
00:29:19and increasing local production, in addition to increasing
00:29:23exports and foreign currency resources, enhancing investor
00:29:27confidence and the competitiveness of the private sector, supporting food
00:29:30security, and achieving balanced and sustainable development.
00:29:34It is worth noting that the National Committee for Economic
00:29:38Management is considered an executive committee for making
00:29:41and implementing decisions, and its scope of work extends
00:29:44to include financial policies, monetary policies, production,
00:29:48trade, the external sector, investment, employment,
00:29:52food security, energy, digital
00:29:54transformation, and related structural reforms.
00:29:57Dr. Othman, you
00:30:01may have inaugurated the national economy management structure
00:30:04in the presence of all ministers of the economic sector, the Central Bank,
00:30:09necessary to establish this new
00:30:14time? And in your opinion, what was missing
00:30:18from the previous working mechanisms
00:30:21in the previous period? The truth is that this
00:30:24topic is very important to me,
00:30:28and there are ideas behind it that we
00:30:31should stop at and analyze
00:30:34properly. It reflects
00:30:37the efforts currently being made
00:30:40to move between options
00:30:43as a result of the feeling that
00:30:47there is work that we need
00:30:51the economy and stop the economic deterioration,
00:30:54the collapse of the currency, and the rampant
00:30:58inflation.