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00:00:01The National
00:00:03in the country. Committee for Economic Management was inaugurated, with the presence of all ministers of the
00:00:07in his meeting with economic sector, the Central Bank, Customs, and Taxes. Was it necessary to establish this
00:00:11new committee
00:00:13what was happening now, at this time, and in your opinion, what was lacking
00:00:16in the previous work mechanisms
00:00:21qualities in
00:00:21against in the previous period? Frankly, this issue
00:00:25is very important
00:00:26Indeed, a large number to me, and it is backed by ideas
00:00:30that we should stop at
00:00:33of the change in the balance of power in and analyze
00:00:38illusions have been dispelled. Therefore, I view committee or this correctly. It reflects the efforts currently being made by the government
00:00:41from to move between options. The result is the feeling
00:00:45that there is work that we need
00:00:48to do to preserve
00:00:51the economy, to stop the economic deterioration,
00:00:54the collapse happening regarding the currency, the rampant
00:00:58inflation, and the things that are needed
00:01:02for the citizens' existence, especially in the return to Sudan.
00:01:06So I believe
00:01:09that this matter suggests the idea that
00:01:13an
00:01:15exceptional situation in
00:01:19Sudan needs
00:01:24through the member states of an authority where
00:01:26the issues
00:01:30are specific, and coordination
00:01:33and integration among all
00:01:37state institutions are necessary.
00:01:40That is, no
00:01:43that it wants to protect in institution should work in isolation from other institutions. We
00:01:46noticed that this did not
00:01:49directly
00:01:53Union members refrain from translate into tangible achievements in the lives of citizens.
00:01:56and there are institutions there Therefore, I believe that the government now feels
00:02:00that it needs to
00:02:03Sudanese people and preserve gather all efforts
00:02:05and direct them towards the lives
00:02:09of citizens, because when we talk
00:02:12about the economy in this sense,
00:02:15I honestly cannot
00:02:19with good tidings from understand
00:02:21and positions based that this new form
00:02:24of this council is a replacement
00:02:28for existing
00:02:31and any tensions that occur in institutions, whether it is the economic sector in the Council of Ministers
00:02:35or the relevant ministries in this matter.
00:02:40And if you noticed, this If you notice, this issue links monetary policies
00:02:42with policies. What do you think if we talk
00:02:46about the timing, why this particular timing
00:02:48for establishing this
00:02:50war of aggression that was waged against committee? This is exactly the analysis
00:02:56support that the militia received we want to reach this result, because the
00:02:58everyone who watched this government feels that something should
00:03:01be done, because the observations
00:03:05support provided by of economic indicators in people's lives,
00:03:08in
00:03:10stability in people's stability,
00:03:12Khartoum in the escalation of
00:03:13external aggression against return operations, in the start
00:03:16of investments, in the start of reconstruction projects
00:03:20and Conflict Escalation in Sudan" Act. is essential. There is a feeling that
00:03:23work should be done.
00:03:26involved in this In your opinion, what is required of this committee now and in the near future
00:03:31to facilitate the lives of citizens and
00:03:34to achieve the goals of forming this committee on the ground?
00:03:38This committee, with this
00:03:42composition that we mentioned includes the Bank
00:03:45of Sudan, the Ministry of Finance, and all the different ministries, and in
00:03:49the end, it is linked to the citizen's livelihood.
00:03:52after the issuance of this That is,
00:03:55grave violations the effort of this committee should
00:03:59the beginning of the war on April 15, be aimed at raising the standard of living for people, because we,
00:04:03in comparison with this situation, for example, if we compare
00:04:08the war and the perpetrators of crimes in the progress made
00:04:11by the army and
00:04:13Osman, in your opinion, what are the implications of this by the Sudanese society in repelling the militia, the country is now witnessing
00:04:17great victories and great progress
00:04:20on the ground. And this
00:04:24requires stability
00:04:27in people's lives,
00:04:31in people's livelihoods, and in preparing the means of life in the liberated communities.
00:04:34That is, if we look at
00:04:37the recent victories that occurred in the North
00:04:40Kordofan region, these cities also need
00:04:43revitalization, they need
00:04:47their goodness in life to be breathed into them again, because this rebellion
00:04:49has caused destruction and devastation to everything.
00:04:53Therefore, the government, the government of hope, now feels that
00:04:58the movement. Our forces in a great work awaits it.
00:05:00That is, it needs to keep up with the developments on the ground,
00:05:04held on Tuesday in and now everyone is talking about the victory being
00:05:08very close. So the people are facing
00:05:12the big battle, the battle of establishing life
00:05:16and the battle of providing
00:05:19means of stability for citizens, because even now, in the past few days,
00:05:22people are still talking about the humanitarian situation
00:05:26in some cities in North Kordofan or
00:05:30Darfur. So all of this means that we
00:05:33need to confirm
00:05:37or provide
00:05:39security for people's lives
00:05:43and livelihoods. So this is the big challenge now. This
00:05:47council is concerned with activating
00:05:51the different energies
00:05:53of the state to protect people's lives
00:05:56and improve people's lives, because daily
00:06:00needs are increasing. It's true that we will conclude
00:06:04with a question, and in brief, the war is still
00:06:07ongoing, and the country is going through a critical turning point at economic,
00:06:10security, and political levels. In your opinion, what are the available
00:06:14resources to finance the plans of this committee
00:06:16to implement the required tasks on the ground?
00:06:20Of course, the committee has now unified the issues
00:06:23it raised, providing foreign
00:06:26currency resources. That is, providing foreign currency resources is the first
00:06:30thing that is done
00:06:32by developing exports. That is, developing
00:06:36exports, organizing
00:06:38exports,
00:06:40and combating all smuggling operations
00:06:44of Sudan's wealth and preserving it so that it
00:06:47directly benefits the state treasury. This is
00:06:51one of the resources. Our
00:06:54self-sufficiency from all our different resources
00:06:56on the surface and in the depths of the earth,
00:07:00that is, it must be developed in a proper way, and it can be a significant
00:07:04source of foreign currency income. There is another very important
00:07:07source of foreign currency which is expatriate
00:07:10workers. That is, Sudanese expatriate workers.
00:07:14If we put in place a system
00:07:17of incentives to attract
00:07:19the savings of expatriates and the remittances
00:07:23of expatriates and the investments of expatriates,
00:07:27this could constitute a very important source of foreign
00:07:30currency. In some countries,
00:07:33it exceeds the revenues of industrial production or
00:07:36technological production or agricultural production. And in Sudan's
00:07:39experience, this exists. That is, Sudan in certain
00:07:43years, the remittances of expatriates
00:07:46reached six or nine billion dollars annually.
00:07:50Therefore, I think now this sector
00:07:54and we know the stance that
00:07:57expatriate workers and expatriates took during the
00:08:03Sudanese society. And I hope for their efforts, Dr.
00:08:06They are a fundamental base for Sudanese society, and therefore
00:08:10their money, we will set policies
00:08:13on how to employ and benefit from expatriate remittances, God willing.
00:08:16We hope that all these efforts will be crowned
00:08:19with success. Let's move to the fourth file, our viewers,
00:08:22an American law to prevent
00:08:25Sudan. The Senate approved a new law called
00:08:29the "External Aggression Prevention
00:08:33The law is sponsored by prominent members
00:08:37of both the Republican and Democratic parties, and aims
00:08:40to stop the war and punish those who commit
00:08:43crimes and violations. The law also stipulates
00:08:46the need to combat external interference
00:08:50and military support. The law also included the need
00:08:53for strict monitoring of the arms embargo imposed by
00:08:56the United Nations on Darfur. And in terms
00:08:59of human rights, the draft law requests
00:09:03the State Department to prepare periodic reports on
00:09:08committed since the outbreak of the war on April 15,
00:09:112023, including children, sexual violence,
00:09:15starvation, and targeting civilians, medical facilities,
00:09:18places of worship, and obstructing the access
00:09:22of humanitarian aid. Dr.
00:09:26rare partisan consensus on Sudan and
00:09:29this law to stop the war and external interventions
00:09:33at this time? In my opinion, this
00:09:37is a positive development, despite our full
00:09:41knowledge that American
00:09:44policy in dealing with the Sudanese
00:09:47file has been governed by
00:09:51ideas since 2023 that have not changed
00:09:54significantly. And since
00:09:58we are a people currently subjected to
00:10:01aggression and are defending
00:10:04ourselves, any international
00:10:07efforts in this world
00:10:11are considered by us
00:10:14to be positive as long as
00:10:16our sovereignty
00:10:18and our
00:10:22country are respected. Therefore, I believe this
00:10:25development, if we look at the recent
00:10:28period, the American president,
00:10:32the Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman, said
00:10:36that he did not know in Sudan.
00:10:40But we and the whole world know that
00:10:44this war waged Sudan
00:10:47has many parties involved.
00:10:51of those involved were convinced that the war
00:10:55would end with the installation of the militia in Sudanese
00:10:58society. However, all these
00:11:03this development
00:11:06the military progress that the army
00:11:09has made in the recent period in North Kordofan.
00:11:13Regarding America's stance since the beginning of the war in Sudan on April 15,
00:11:162013, America's stance was a governing
00:11:20and judicial one. But I just told you the story about the president who said he didn't know what was happening,
00:11:23especially yes.
00:11:28So this progress that has occurred
00:11:32on the ground has begun to change many things.
00:11:35It seems to me now that ideas have begun
00:11:38to change among many parties, including America
00:11:41itself. Now, America wants
00:11:43to move to consider the Sudan
00:11:47file instead of political
00:11:50comments and views tied
00:11:53to the interactions that were tied to the movement on the ground
00:11:57back and forth, so that it becomes an issue
00:12:01that the American community looks at according to its self-interests
00:12:04or according to American interests
00:12:08the region. Therefore, the fact that the matter turns into legislation
00:12:12or turns into a law makes it a fixed matter
00:12:16that does not change. A law becomes a law,
00:12:21that sponsor this law and respect its implementation. Therefore, I
00:12:25believe that this view is considered
00:12:28very positive
00:12:31for the Sudan issue at the present time. The law is named "Preventing External
00:12:35Aggression." In your opinion, does America want
00:12:38to specify certain parties to implement
00:12:41sanctions, especially since you are talking about common interests
00:12:46on interests and the field situation regarding
00:12:49the progress of the Sudanese Armed Forces? So this decision
00:12:52indicates that
00:12:55America has a true understanding
00:12:59of the issue. That is, America is now aware that this war is supported by
00:13:03external parties.
00:13:05law is based on preventing aggression
00:13:08and punishing those who commit crimes.
00:13:12That is, the primary focus of this law
00:13:15is on the external and foreign
00:13:21in the past period, as if there is an acknowledgement that
00:13:25this war has prolonged and continued as a result of this
00:13:30foreign entities. And what will be the next step? It will be to name the parties that
00:13:33provide this support to implement sanctions.
00:13:36That is, now they want to open up a system of
00:13:40sanctions, and at the same time, they want to find a legal
00:13:44justification for classifying certain
00:13:48institutions and organizations
00:13:51project, whether they are organizations
00:13:56or companies or even
00:14:01the rebels themselves. That is, the law here allows
00:14:05them to name these parties and classify them as terrorist
00:14:08organizations to impose appropriate
00:14:11sanctions for these actions. And the question remains, Dr. Osman, what
00:14:17law? Because if we look at
00:14:21the laws that have been issued since
00:14:242023, and the positions that have been issued
00:14:28by international organizations and international bodies regarding
00:14:33Sudan, we find that
00:14:35they have not been implemented on the ground and
00:14:38have not found anyone to implement them on the
00:14:41ground. Let's move to the fifth and final file
00:14:45in today's episode of Axis of Events. Sudan confirms
00:14:48its readiness to receive the Peace and Security Council delegation of the African
00:14:52Union in Khartoum. Sudan confirmed its readiness for the visit
00:14:55of the Peace and Security Council of the African Union to Khartoum,
00:14:59scheduled for mid-August under the presidency of
00:15:02Algeria. The reception of the African delegation
00:15:05and facilitating its meetings with state leaders, political forces,
00:15:08and civil society organizations was discussed by Ambassador
00:15:11of Sudan to Ethiopia and Permanent Representative to the African Union
00:15:15and the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa, Ambassador
00:15:18Al-Zein Ibrahim Hussein, with the Chairperson of the African Union Commission,
00:15:22Mahmoud Ali Yusuf, regarding developments in
00:15:26that, during a meeting
00:15:29the Ethiopian capital, Addis Ababa. Ambassador Al-Zein conveyed
00:15:33during the meeting an oral message from the Minister of Foreign Affairs and International
00:15:36Cooperation, Ambassador Mohamed Salem, regarding the latest developments
00:15:41What are the files that the government will focus
00:15:44on in these
00:15:47discussions with the delegation, in your opinion, Dr.
00:15:50Osman? Of course,
00:15:53I think it's an excellent step, preceded by
00:15:56the IGAD step. And now the African Peace
00:15:59and Security Council will visit Khartoum in the coming
00:16:03period. And this is all, of course, a result
00:16:10the conflict in Sudan. Yes. That is, perhaps
00:16:14it has become clear that
00:16:17the will of the Sudanese people will prevail in this war, and the Sudanese
00:16:20state will remain a functioning state,
00:16:23and its institutions have protected themselves from collapse.
00:16:27So all of this pushed these institutions and organizations, of which Sudan is a member,
00:16:30to move from
00:16:34old positions. That is, the old positions
00:16:38of these institutions, by the way, were primarily
00:16:41defensive
00:16:43about
00:16:46We have one minute left, and therefore I think
00:16:49it is very important for the Sudanese government that
00:16:53the visit at this time is to stop
00:16:56the support that this militia receives
00:17:01the African Union, neighbors of Sudan, who
00:17:05allowed the flow of
00:17:07weapons and the flow of mercenaries across their borders
00:17:10and creating
00:17:13problems on different borders. So I think the most important
00:17:16thing for the Security
00:17:20and African Peace and Security Council is to preserve
00:17:22the integrity of Sudanese state institutions and Sudanese society
00:17:26by ensuring that
00:17:30interfering in Sudanese affairs and work
00:17:34to establish a genuine dialogue
00:17:38between
00:17:41the Sudanese state. Finally, what is the message
00:17:44that Sudan wants to send to the African
00:17:47world specifically
00:17:50by holding these different meetings?
00:17:53That we are part of Africa and we are not separate from
00:17:57Africa. The problems that happen in our society, if
00:18:00they happen tonight, tomorrow they will spread to others,
00:18:03and therefore the geopolitical location of Sudan,
00:18:09Sudan will have repercussions on all countries
00:18:12of the African Union, the Horn of Africa, and even the Middle
00:18:16East. Therefore, I think Sudan's message is
00:18:19to
00:18:22stand with the Sudanese people and support
00:18:25the will of the Sudanese people, because the state of Sudan
00:18:28will remain standing as long as it has been
00:18:31established for thousands of years, God willing. Thank you very much. A final word you want to say goodbye to
00:18:36interview on Sudan TV.
00:18:40We hope that the normal return for Sudanese
00:18:44citizens will be organized, and that
00:18:50is progressing day by day in a positive direction,
00:18:54and that we all stand united
00:18:57behind our armed forces, who
00:19:00will achieve the great victory for the Sudanese people,
00:19:03and we will celebrate in all parts of Sudan the liberation.
00:19:09Dr. Osman Hassan Osman, academic and political analyst. Thank
00:19:12you very much for being with us in this episode of Axis of Events.
00:19:16Our viewers, accept my sincere regards and the regards of the work team, and peace
00:19:20be upon you and the mercy of God. Goodbye.