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00:00:00Al-Hajanah,
00:00:01army. May God grant us victory, God willing, after the training, we
00:00:03were able to gain independence on
00:00:08at the 56th. So they released us when independence came. Did you graduate or were you in the camp?
00:00:12No, no, they released us.
00:00:16very large number of They released us. We immediately participated in the parade,
00:00:18the honor parade of independence.
00:00:22The citizens and the army were all there. At that time, it was called
00:00:26Kordofan Directorate. Yes, so after
00:00:30the participation, the participation
00:00:32was
00:00:36very, very
00:00:38the closest independent. From the army
00:00:42the Engineers. to the citizens, all of the country
00:00:46gathered in the directorate. So we attended the occasion.
00:00:50And after
00:00:53that, you know, there were two foreign flags, the British
00:00:57flag and the Egyptian flag. After that,
00:01:00she said, "I
00:01:02about an important aspect am an officer."
00:01:06the siege a father to all officers in All of them were holding the Sudanese flag. The foreign flags were down, and the Sudanese flag was flying
00:01:10to me, especially during high. It was raised high.
00:01:13It was tied to
00:01:16at graduations and the flagpole. And the honor parade was
00:01:19going on, a parade of salute, arms, and music.
00:01:23The citizens were cheering. They were
00:01:26very, very happy
00:01:28he also raised about independence. Thank God, after that, the
00:01:32occasion ended. So the people were
00:01:35happy. We returned to the leadership
00:01:38inside. And after
00:01:40a while, they immediately moved us to the south, to
00:01:44the south's camp. We stayed in the south for
00:01:47two years. After
00:01:49It was in two years, we came back north and then
00:01:52returned
00:01:55So I continued for a second time. So I went to the south twice. So in your
00:01:58and participate in service in Al-Hajanah, you went twice, three times?
00:02:05Tell us about Uncle Shanto at
00:02:08busy with operations in
00:02:11when you come to
00:02:15After the training center in Al-Obeid, it was inside the leadership. At
00:02:19that time, but in the end, they moved it to Jabal
00:02:22Kordofan outside. But at that time, it was inside
00:02:25the leadership. It
00:02:28was the center. Well, Uncle Shanto,
00:02:30you came to the Military Academy.
00:02:33The Sudanese. A long time ago, you knew
00:02:36that people would come for courses at the Academy. Indeed,
00:02:39and the good people and those with excellent performance would be appointed
00:02:43as instructors at the Academy. So we want you to tell us how you came to the Academy
00:02:47common names in the Military Academy, Shanto Ali and how you started there. Did you come
00:02:49for a course or were you transferred to the Academy? No, I came
00:02:52for a course. Before the Academy, I also went for a course in
00:02:55Jbeit, a training
00:02:57center.
00:03:00When I finished, it was
00:03:02until today. during the time of
00:03:04You are currently at the late Nimeiry. He
00:03:05him by his name and what he offered was in charge of here and keep it in Jbeit. I finished and came.
00:03:09At that time, my rank was
00:03:12about Shanto Ali in the Dalli. I came
00:03:12Shanto with you and then they recommended me to come to the Academy
00:03:15for training in drill. Indeed,
00:03:19we came as a large
00:03:22group, and we were in the training. I became a drill instructor.
00:03:25So we finished the drill.
00:03:28After that, the commandant of the Academy said, "You will be attached to
00:03:33the Academy for a while."
00:03:36I knew that this was from the beginning. There was training
00:03:39so that the
00:03:41flatter you. In transfer would be completed. And indeed,
00:03:43I said I would go back and give the rifle
00:03:47to the Hajanah. He told me, "No, if you go, you might not come back."
00:03:51So they sent me to the command. It was delivered. I delivered the rifle. I was told in
00:03:54the seventies. So I continued. At that time, who was
00:03:58of course, your relationship is with the commandant of the Academy? It was Mohamed Taher Maram.
00:04:02He passed away. They were in charge of
00:04:05the Academy. He
00:04:07was a general.
00:04:09So I continued training, training Sudanese students and foreign students from
00:04:12the Emirates
00:04:16So I monitor them closely and Qatar and foreign students
00:04:20from Somalia
00:04:23Anything in and Djibouti. We also taught them
00:04:28and based on and graduated them. Also, Yemeni students. They also
00:04:32came and received training at the Academy.
00:04:36Who did you work with at the Academy among the old instructors and leaders
00:04:39of the Military Academy?
00:04:43Mubarak Aj Ahmed El-Jaili
00:04:47and Abdullah Shagaf
00:04:51And therefore, it is reflected in and Mohamed Fayez. Many leaders used to come
00:04:54for a period of time.
00:04:58The students at the Academy
00:05:02go to weapons class and training class.
00:05:04The drill class has a lot of strictness. There are
00:05:08four sections, drill, weapons, and training.
00:05:12Tactics, in addition to lectures. The officers are in
00:05:15charge of the lectures. This is the period they take
00:05:20the Academy. Well, Uncle Shanto, I
00:05:23want you to know that after a
00:05:28officers and leaders
00:05:32graduated from the Military Academy and became active in their careers, you started
00:05:36meeting your students, some of whom are generals, some are lieutenants, and some are
00:05:39colonels. So in any place, they surely honor
00:05:43you and appreciate you especially. How did you
00:05:46deal with this? Well, the largest
00:05:50batch of students was batch
00:05:5324. There were 700 students.
00:05:56This was during Nimeiry's time. This was the largest batch that entered.
00:06:00And after that, the batches were smaller,
00:06:0360 and 50 and so on.
00:06:06So the number
00:06:08decreased.
00:06:12The training was continuous. It was continuous
00:06:15training. Also, we used to have students
00:06:18from Libya. But
00:06:22they don't like
00:06:25drill. But
00:06:28we dealt with them until they graduated. Uncle Shanto,
00:06:31you traveled to
00:06:35Port Sudan. You traveled to many states, and you found
00:06:39your officer children who were taught by you.
00:06:43How do they treat you in Port Sudan? Indeed, I went by
00:06:46plane from
00:06:48Wad Al-Sayedna. The
00:06:51people of the dormitory were
00:06:55with Ali Badr El-Din.
00:07:01Port Sudan.
00:07:07a month.
00:07:10After that, I was transferred from the
00:07:13regional command. I also went.
00:07:16I was supposed to return by plane, but at that time, the planes were
00:07:21Al-Jazirah. The land was
00:07:24hit by airstrikes.
00:07:27This was a problem in Port Sudan. So the people of the
00:07:31regional command gave us fuel. We
00:07:34left Port Sudan and came
00:07:37to Atbara. They didn't fall short. The officers
00:07:40didn't fall short.
00:07:55You provided service in the armed
00:07:58forces. A long time ago, they used to call
00:08:02the armed forces the Sudanese
00:08:04Defense Forces. The Sudanese
00:08:07Defense Forces.
00:08:10And you are still at the Sudanese Military Academy
00:08:16the Military Academy. You are currently at the Military Academy. May God
00:08:20grant you health and well-being. You are still in the drill
00:08:24wing. As we said, there are four sections: drill, weapons,
00:08:28training, tactics, and as I said,
00:08:30in addition to lectures. These lectures
00:08:34are given by officers. The students complete the period
00:08:38and graduate.
00:08:40There are students at the Academy. Students at the Academy.
00:08:44There is always a lot of strictness in
00:08:47Abdullah Sharaf El-Din Square. Military discipline
00:08:51and appearance, clothes, buttons, insignia.
00:08:54The army is a system
00:08:57and discipline. So I
00:09:00don't tolerate students wearing
00:09:03clothes that are not neat.
00:09:07So, if
00:09:11a student's uniform is
00:09:20not buttoned, I don't
00:09:22let them go. This is like
00:09:25an enemy to you.
00:09:29in the drill field.
00:09:32That's why the students were very diligent.
00:09:35They were excellent in the field. Indeed, indeed. As soon as
00:09:39you appear in the field, everyone checks their insignia.
00:09:44And their boots and their uniform.
00:11:07Welcome back, we are continuing with our program "Between
00:11:10Bonds" from the National Cooperative Foundation. Tonight's
00:11:14visit is to our Uncle First Lieutenant Shanto Ali
00:11:17Qatia. I think his Excellency Daf'allah,
00:11:21Uncle Shanto
00:11:24is truly a father,
00:11:28the armed forces. And perhaps the time he gave us
00:11:32when we were at the Sudanese Military Academy,
00:11:35you always find him in the fields
00:11:38and
00:11:41during training. He was always there and was
00:11:44a witness to
00:11:47many batches that graduated.
00:11:51And praise be to God,
00:11:53officers, engineers, and housewives
00:11:57at home.
00:11:59And this is a great blessing from God Almighty, and it also indicates
00:12:03the determination and perseverance of our Uncle Shanto Ali
00:12:05Qatia.
00:12:08The name Shanto Ali Qatia is a great
00:12:11and well-known name. So I want to know what its social impact is on
00:12:15you. The name of the father enabled
00:12:19me, especially, to have opportunities, but
00:12:22I encountered this:
00:12:25how can your father be an instructor at the Military Academy
00:12:29and in the army, and you went in another direction? You went to
00:12:33the police. So, as they say,
00:12:37you broke a lot of rules
00:12:40and had funny stories.
00:12:43The father, may God reward him
00:12:46well, even though his children
00:12:50are in the Military Academy, he spent a lot of time with
00:12:53us. We learned discipline, starting
00:12:56from waking up early and
00:13:00making your bed and
00:13:03ironing your clothes and dressing well.
00:13:06And thank God, and the observations, even the
00:13:12Qatia and the subtle observations. Any
00:13:15small or large observation, as they say, he focuses on it.
00:13:18If you don't focus, you won't get
00:13:21what you want. And this
00:13:25made you great personalities in society. Thank
00:13:28God. We find ourselves,
00:13:32we won't go out of the framework of home and our Uncle
00:13:37at home. His Excellency Daf'allah mentioned that any
00:13:40observation is visible to him.
00:13:43Of course, this certainly helped you
00:13:46to be in the order we saw. Just
00:13:49this. Okay, in the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:13:53The second time.
00:13:58The same thing he said, from waking up
00:14:01early. Especially if there is travel,
00:14:05if you are traveling at 8 AM, he wakes you up at 3 AM
00:14:08and checks the road and so on. The barracks really
00:14:11created a social
00:14:14and emotional bond for us. The barracks represent us
00:14:18as one family. And cohesion. And in the barracks,
00:14:23the officer. And with
00:14:26the engineer, it created a very strong bond.
00:14:29By God. So the father
00:14:33did not fall short in raising us.
00:14:36And he had a very, very big role.
00:14:39Even in terms of discipline and
00:14:42academic excellence. He used to encourage us very much. And we don't forget the role of our mother,
00:14:46she also didn't fall short with us. May God reward
00:15:06you. Ayman, how are you? Fine, thank God. I hope you are fine. May God
00:15:09grant you health. All people
00:15:11wish that
00:15:15their children see their father's face all
00:15:18day long. Yes. Military life is different.
00:15:22It's about a person dedicating their time to
00:15:25fulfilling their oath of serving the people and serving
00:15:27the nation. So I know that you, Uncle Shanto's family,
00:15:31were among the supporters of his journey in the armed
00:15:34forces. So I want you to talk about this a little.
00:15:38Well, of course,
00:15:42we were born in a military
00:15:45area, as they say. And besides that,
00:15:48our father, may God reward him well, God willing.
00:15:51As they say, we became familiar with military life
00:15:55without hearing about it or seeing
00:15:58it. We became familiar with military life.
00:16:02Our father, may God reward him,
00:16:05did not fall short. There are things that we
00:16:08don't even know. Some of
00:16:12them he tells us, and some we hear from people outside
00:16:16or from the barracks
00:16:17environment.
00:16:20The military institution is an old
00:16:23and great one. No matter how much you talk
00:16:27about it,
00:16:28you won't
00:16:31do it justice. And as I say,
00:16:35there are many things that, as they say, we learned later.
00:16:38I am the youngest. Yes, there
00:16:41are things I didn't know. I only learned them now during the Karama War.
00:16:44They became clearer the
00:16:48last period. My time with my father was very
00:16:51long. He used to tell us and show
00:16:54us that this is what happened, the army is like this and that.
00:16:57From its beginning,
00:17:01from its beginning.
00:17:04From the beginning of its establishment. Yes, from the beginning, he also told
00:17:08us about the raising of the Sudanese flag
00:17:11for independence. These are all things that are a source of pride.
00:17:14This is a source of pride and honor. Yes, as they say, pride and honor.
00:17:18We are happy. Ibrahim Saeed
00:17:21Qatia has many admirers and fans, and
00:17:25people who are proud of him. You probably
00:17:29experienced Uncle Shanto at the Military Academy. Certainly,
00:17:32and at that
00:17:34time,
00:17:37there was no distinction between you and any other student.
00:17:42the Academy. Well, apart from the division
00:17:46of the companies, the drill
00:17:50fields, Uncle Shanto doesn't know anyone.
00:17:54He has that quality.
00:17:57And then, of course,
00:18:00because of his strict discipline, and he participated in independence
00:18:03parades, and flag ceremonies.
00:18:07He has a keen eye for observation. Any
00:18:09small movement, as they say, even if it's inside
00:18:13your boot, he will notice it. Subhanallah.
00:18:16It's a feeling. In addition
00:18:19to that, woe to you
00:18:23if you come unprepared or if
00:18:26there is an extra thread that you haven't removed. This was a big problem.
00:18:30He was with our Uncle Ismail,
00:18:34may God have mercy on him. He also had that observation. The students
00:18:37would gather every little detail
00:18:43their memory. And until today,
00:18:47I know people who are generals and
00:18:50colonels. As soon as you mention
00:18:54the Military Academy, Uncle Shanto and Uncle
00:18:57Bia come to mind immediately. And some people, may God have mercy on them.
00:19:00There are groups
00:19:04that are remembered. They are all the same, with the same performance and so on. But
00:19:07there are people
00:19:10who have extra discipline. Shanto is known for this.
00:19:14No matter who you are, even if you are his brother, he won't
00:19:19the military, he won't flatter you without insults.
00:19:22Without this. But of course, the terms of
00:19:26drill are for teaching and for making a person
00:19:29a good, disciplined person who takes things seriously. The person
00:19:33who is lenient or doesn't accept it, you
00:19:37feel that he is internally angry and upset.
00:19:41This is a type of sincerity, of course, that is evident. And after that,
00:19:45in the end, the reputation of
00:19:47the wing was mostly
00:19:51even them. The best thing about them is that they transfer experiences
00:19:55and expertise. The issue of sequence does not change.
00:20:00education can be modified, but drill is fixed
00:20:06discipline. That's why
00:20:08discipline and control, some people insist that it should be discipline and control
00:20:12and proper drill. Among the instructors, he is the
00:20:16foundation upon which
00:20:19all military matters are built. And of course, you
00:20:23are aware of this matter. Without discipline, there is no
00:20:26proper military.
00:20:28behavior.
00:20:31And even in a person's upbringing, they can reach high
00:20:34ranks, but the issue of discipline. If
00:20:38the balance is disturbed, the impact will be easier. And therefore,
00:20:42even reports are repeated.
00:21:13Khalid, you are not young.
00:21:17During
00:21:20the Karama battle,
00:21:24you were among
00:21:28family members, and you were with our Uncle Shanto in
00:21:32History is history, and history is
00:21:36not exaggerated.
00:21:38We say that we
00:21:41are lucky to be witnessing
00:21:45history. And it is now moving forward.
00:21:48May God grant them health and well-being. And the best luck is that I was one of the closest
00:21:52people to him during
00:21:56in the Engineers. And for me, it was
00:22:00something indescribable.
00:22:03But with his humor and among
00:22:07the funny things, when he was
00:22:10working
00:22:12and writing, when the writing happened,
00:22:15people were trying to protect themselves. But he was
00:22:19moving.
00:22:26But the spirituality within him, from within the military institution and its sons,
00:22:30made him unable to bear it. Even at that moment, it was a little difficult
00:22:33for me and my brother Daf'allah.
00:22:36But we found that this was something involuntary
00:22:39within him.
00:22:41After that, as he said, it continued, and we became more fortunate. So he
00:22:45also tried to go
00:22:48the operations.
00:22:51So, when the army advanced during the siege
00:22:54from one stage to another, when the army moved
00:22:58five steps, he would be at the fourth step
00:23:02behind them to witness that they
00:23:05were not advancing. Even the
00:23:08officers, the brother officers and non-commissioned officers,
00:23:12used to tell him, "Uncle Shanto, go back." But he couldn't.
00:23:15It was a period that,
00:23:19as he said, despite its difficulty, it was a history that I
00:23:23witnessed. What the father provided,
00:23:27and this is what we experienced with his long history,
00:23:30as he said, I lived and saw it during the Karama War
00:23:34and the siege of the Engineers.
00:23:37History, and even his name for us, is a siege. But a siege
00:23:40that, as he said, we don't move a step and then
00:23:44find that the siege means that it was
00:23:48making history for us. History that everyone appreciates.
00:23:52They appreciate
00:23:55to the armed forces. Even this extended to the civilian
00:23:59level, where people talk
00:24:02Qatia.
00:24:39was very happy.
00:24:43Our visit from the National Cooperative Foundation to you
00:24:46in your honorable home. And
00:24:50perhaps the example of Uncle Shanto Ali Qatia
00:24:54and many instructors who dedicated their time
00:24:57and offered the most valuable
00:25:01to the students at the Military Academy, and as I said, in all institutes
00:25:04and colleges. I salute them and ask
00:25:08God Almighty to grant those who are alive long life
00:25:11and to have mercy on those who were martyred
00:25:15or passed away and to grant them the highest
00:25:38you. Before I conclude the episode,
00:25:41I will let the mother give us a simple word
00:25:45about our Uncle Shanto Ali Qatia. In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. By God, Uncle
00:25:48Shanto
00:25:50did not fall short. We thank you very much. By God,
00:25:54you did not fall short at all with your uncle. May God grant you health, God
00:25:57willing. The whole army, O Lord of the Worlds, protect the whole
00:26:03among the victors, O Lord of the Worlds. Amen, may God grant you health. May God bless
00:26:07you. Thank you. May God bless you. Thank you, Uncle Shanto.
00:26:11Praise be to God. May God bless you. Congratulations.
00:26:14May God grant you health. Now, Uncle
00:26:17Shanto, the Karama War, the war is coming to an end.
00:26:21And the Rapid Support Forces will be gone, God willing. God willing. I want you to reassure the people
00:26:25who are watching us that the armed forces, God willing, will soon
00:26:28liberate all of Sudan, God willing. God willing. I want you to reassure them and give them the message.
00:26:33Yes, please. Indeed,
00:26:36I hope that the army
00:26:39will liberate all areas.
00:26:42And when they say, for example, the army is entering such and such an area, I become
00:26:46very happy.
00:26:55an episode from the "Between
00:26:57Bonds" series.
00:27:00We certainly learned
00:27:04of the life of our Uncle First Lieutenant Shanto Ali Qatia.
00:27:07And we learned about all the stages
00:27:11he went through until he reached the Military Academy, the Sudanese,
00:27:14and his great dedication that lasted for many
00:27:17years in service to the armed forces
00:27:21and to the Sudanese people. God willing, "Between
00:27:24Bonds" continues.
00:27:26And until we meet you in the next episode, peace
00:27:30be upon you and the mercy of God and His blessings.