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00:00:00links the eastern region with the rest of the governorates,
00:00:03the regional markets,
00:00:05Syria, and it remains active in and international markets, Dr. You know and
00:00:08most Syrians also know that the defunct regime
00:00:12has consistently and systematically marginalized the eastern region
00:00:15in general,
00:00:17There are several levels. On and Deir ez-Zor in particular. It seems that the title
00:00:21for the Syrian state is needed to confront
00:00:21of this of the next phase today is to restore
00:00:24support for this state is needed because this attention to this region. Economically
00:00:28and infrastructurally,
00:00:30if this production is used Deir ez-Zor, even if it was not destroyed,
00:00:34it needs a lot
00:00:37more than others, and developments due to neglect over the past
00:00:38of chaos that the country experienced years, so what about the destruction happening today?
00:00:41How will the government's attention to Deir ez-Zor today
00:00:45reflect on this region in particular
00:00:48and on Syria in general?
00:00:51It is clear, I mean, when
00:00:54His Excellency the President delivers a message or a recorded
00:00:58video and gives a speech, it is clear that the attention is at the highest level.
00:01:02It is not an attention
00:01:04that is
00:01:07polarization that the new This attention is the result of
00:01:09His Excellency the President and the government's
00:01:15a problem in keenness to pay attention
00:01:19and his life, because perhaps he does not periods the arrest of a number of to Deir ez-Zor, because paying attention to Deir ez-Zor is not development for one governorate, it is an investment in one of the most important
00:01:22economic regions in Syria.
00:01:26I mean, Professor Ammar, the eastern region includes
00:01:29a large part of the oil and gas wealth,
00:01:31vast agricultural areas, and a geographic
00:01:35followers of ISIS, if I may say so, or to location that connects Syria Therefore, media awareness at with Iraq and the Gulf.
00:01:39Therefore, any investment in it will
00:01:41have an impact on the national economy
00:01:44as a whole. What
00:01:48sectarian situation in Syria, there distinguishes the current phase
00:01:50is no sectarian conflict in Syria. This is that the talk is no longer about a single project, but rather about a comprehensive
00:01:54package that includes
00:01:56$21 million. It is part of an airport, and as we mentioned, a cargo center and an industrial city.
00:02:00We are talking
00:02:03investment does not depend on about large investments. Now, infrastructure
00:02:06is the first engine of growth. The World Bank estimated
00:02:10that every dollar invested in infrastructure
00:02:13or deceive any of projects can generate between one and a half
00:02:16and two and a half dollars in economic activity in the medium
00:02:18term because these projects stimulate
00:02:23the viewers. In approach will we be able the contracting sector and stimulate the transport sector, industry, and services,
00:02:27a radical and create demand for raw
00:02:29regarding this materials and labor. In addition, the eastern
00:02:32region, the eastern region, possesses one of the, also,
00:02:36great productive potentials.
00:02:39that ISIS thrived on Professor Ammar Farhoud, a researcher It has the most important oil and gas fields in Syria, in addition
00:02:43experienced and thrived on to vast agricultural
00:02:46because the followers of this
00:02:46with you, Professor Ammar. So, this lands. When these resources are connected with an international airport,
00:02:50an international road, and an industrial city,
00:02:53the economic value increases because the state
00:02:57that this organization thrives on
00:02:58session, this is not just selling raw materials, but rather adding to manufacturing, packaging, and logistical services. Yes,
00:03:02and perhaps here, since you have mentioned the integration
00:03:06believe that there are a number of all these
00:03:07of reshaping itself again in components, perhaps the smart economy
00:03:10or the smart utilization
00:03:13of the geographical location and the geographical
00:03:16advantage and the oil fields and the proximity of the oil fields
00:03:21in Iraq and Syria to for air cargo and an industrial city
00:03:25for establishing food
00:03:28and petrochemical
00:03:30industries emerges here. We are talking about this specific point, and agriculture as well. We connect all these
00:03:34matters with each
00:03:36a state confronting this other. in 2019 in This is 100% accurate. You have
00:03:40asked the question and you have
00:03:43added important answers to it.
00:03:47This is the essence of the economic project today. The real value of Deir
00:03:51ez-Zor is not in each resource individually, but rather in
00:03:54connecting all resources within an integrated production chain
00:03:58that creates added value for the Syrian economy.
00:04:02Deir ez-Zor has three strategic elements that are not
00:04:06sensitive. As I mentioned, this often found together in regions. First, it has a geographical
00:04:08location that connects Syria with Iraq and the Gulf,
00:04:12large oil
00:04:14international law. Despite and gas resources, and a vast agricultural base.
00:04:18solely on official Therefore, when you add an international airport, a cargo center, and an industrial
00:04:22city to it, you are essentially transforming these resources into an integrated
00:04:25separation, whether in production system.
00:04:28must know that. It is a threat to Today, the wealth the organization. The organization is not only a threat of a country is not measured by the size of its natural resources
00:04:31alone, but rather by its ability to transform these resources into
00:04:35value-added products. That is, a barrel of oil
00:04:40and its impact may be felt generates a certain value, but when it is used in petrochemical industries,
00:04:43the production of plastics, fertilizers, and chemical
00:04:45ideology. The organization materials, its economic
00:04:48value increases several times, as do
00:04:52employment opportunities and industrial revenues. The same
00:04:55applies to agriculture. The eastern
00:04:57region of Syria is one of the most important
00:05:00regions for the production of wheat, barley,
00:05:03to these norms is cotton, and livestock. When these products are transferred directly to
00:05:07the industrial city, they can be manufactured,
00:05:09packaged, and then exported through the air cargo center
00:05:13or the air route, instead of being sold as low-value raw
00:05:17materials. The same applies to the oil sector.
00:05:20Al-Omar oil field historically recorded a production capacity of nearly
00:05:2480,000 barrels per day. If
00:05:27we just take, in the worst-case scenarios,
00:05:30a hypothetical price of $70 per
00:05:32barrel, the total value reaches
00:05:36a daily revenue of $5.6
00:05:39million. However,
00:05:42in petrochemical industries
00:05:46within the region, the economic return will be much
00:05:49greater than exporting crude oil alone. Herein
00:05:53lies the importance of the industrial city, because it does not
00:05:56only provide factories, it creates what is called
00:06:00a value-added chain, and the chain begins with
00:06:03oil extraction, then you
00:06:07or crop production, then manufacturing, packaging, and storage, then
00:06:10transfer,
00:06:13then export. Each stage of these stages
00:06:16adds new economic value and creates new jobs.
00:06:20The airport, Professor Ammar, completes this
00:06:23system. It does not transport passengers, it provides
00:06:27a fast outlet for exporting products
00:06:30such as food industries, medicines, medical
00:06:33supplies, light petrochemical
00:06:36products, and it accelerates the arrival of investors and experts
00:06:40to the region. As for the Damascus
00:06:43road, I mean Deir ez-Zor,
00:06:45it is the land artery that transports raw materials
00:06:49and heavy products between the eastern region and the rest
00:06:52of the governorates, while, as we said, the airport
00:06:56handles the transportation of fast and high-value shipments.
00:06:59We also have a project for a cancer hospital
00:07:02with an investment, as it was
00:07:05mentioned, amounting to about
00:07:09the economic system. It is a system.
00:07:12An economic and social system, because
00:07:16factories and roads alone, but also needs health
00:07:19and educational services and infrastructure
00:07:21capable of serving the people of the region to succeed
00:07:25economically and become attractive.
00:07:28100%. Therefore, if we combine these
00:07:32projects, we are facing an integrated economic model
00:07:36based on investing in the geographical location,
00:07:39natural resources, simultaneously.
00:07:43This model is what
00:07:45many successful economies
00:07:48apply today, where resource-rich
00:07:51areas are transformed into production and export centers
00:07:55and not into centers for extracting raw materials.
00:07:59Therefore, as the defunct regime
00:08:03went, only the Rmeilan area
00:08:06and other fields. Thank you very much for your presence with us today,
00:08:10Dr. Mahmoud Abdel Karim, the economic expert. You were with us
00:08:14from Dubai. Thank you.
00:08:25The UN Security Council held a special session
00:08:29during which it heard a briefing on the threats posed by ISIS
00:08:34international peace and security. The head of the Office of the Under-Secretary-General
00:08:38for Counter-Terrorism, Oglo Gerin
00:08:41Niyazberdiyeva, stated that the organization is exploiting
00:08:44the changing security landscape in Syria to reshape
00:08:47its threats, calling for the safe,
00:08:50voluntary, and dignified repatriation of Al-Hol camp residents
00:08:54to their home countries. The Deputy Executive
00:08:58Director of the Counter-Terrorism Committee of the United Nations,
00:09:01Carmen Cantor, confirmed
00:09:05that developments in Syria underscore the importance of vigilance in
00:09:08confronting the threat posed by the organization. She explained
00:09:11that addressing the situation of former ISIS
00:09:15affiliates requires legal
00:09:18prosecution and also requires rehabilitation
00:09:21and integration in accordance with
00:09:26international efforts, the organization continues to pose a serious
00:09:30threat to international peace and security. Counter-terrorism operations
00:09:33have undermined
00:09:35the organization's top leadership
00:09:39and limited its ability to direct
00:09:42operations centrally. However, the organization has adapted to
00:09:46the new circumstances. Despite the current fragmented
00:09:49structure, the organization remains
00:09:53resilient, and affiliated entities are united around a common
00:09:58continues to exploit fragile security environments
00:10:01and protracted armed conflicts. All counter-terrorism
00:10:05efforts must be based on international law, including
00:10:08international human rights law, humanitarian law,
00:10:11and refugee law. Adherence
00:10:15not only a legal obligation, but also
00:10:19a fundamental practical necessity to ensure the effectiveness
00:10:22and legitimacy of our collective
00:10:26efforts. The threat posed by ISIS
00:10:29will continue to change,
00:10:32and our collective response must also evolve and change.
00:10:36Maintaining the progress we have made against ISIS
00:10:39will require protecting and strengthening regional
00:10:42and international cooperation and comprehensive responses based
00:10:45on international law. The United Nations will continue to support
00:10:48member states in implementing the counter-terrorism strategy
00:10:51and relevant Security Council resolutions.
00:10:55The challenge remains global, and Africa
00:10:59is affected much
00:11:02in Iraq and the Syrian Arab Republic underscore
00:11:06the importance of vigilance. Humanitarian challenges remain
00:11:09immense, and the closure of Al-Hol camp represents
00:11:13a huge development,
00:11:14and
00:11:17it highlights the complexity
00:11:19of addressing the situation of former
00:11:23ISIS affiliates and their families,
00:11:27and this issue is becoming increasingly urgent
00:11:31today. Ensuring effective legal prosecution and reintegration
00:11:34and rehabilitation measures that take into
00:11:37account the age group
00:11:41and gender dimension
00:11:45are all matters that have not been resolved yet. Addressing this
00:11:48challenge will require international cooperation, sufficient
00:11:51resources, and compliance with humanitarian law, international
00:11:56and attention to the needs of victims. The Executive Directorate, in cooperation with
00:11:59the Counter-Terrorism Office and other organizations, held side events
00:12:03to discuss responses and good practices. These exchanges highlighted the importance of international
00:12:07cooperation and collective action. Madam President, as
00:12:11the Secretary-General's report highlights, the threat posed
00:12:14by ISIS has not receded, but rather has fragmented
00:12:18and adapted to different contexts. If we resort
00:12:22to a single response limited to one region, and
00:12:26if we only rely on security measures, this solution will not be enough to solve the problem. On behalf
00:12:29of the Counter-Terrorism Committee, the Executive Directorate will continue
00:12:32to assess the implementation by member states of the Council's resolutions
00:12:36and will identify best practices and gaps that we will use
00:12:40to determine effective responses. Only through continuous international cooperation
00:12:44and by adopting a comprehensive
00:12:47to effectively address the threat posed by ISIS
00:12:50and its affiliates
00:12:54Saudi file. We have with us Professor
00:12:57Abdullah Zizan, a political analyst, joining us from Amman,
00:13:01and from Aleppo, our guest
00:13:04in military affairs
00:13:07and sub-state actors. Welcome to you both, and I will start
00:13:11organization today, to what extent
00:13:14are its threats capable of reshaping
00:13:17themselves? As
00:13:20stated in the Security Council
00:13:23organization exploits the changing security situation in Syria
00:13:27to reshape its threats. So, to what extent is it capable
00:13:32the region? Good evening. My greetings to you
00:13:36and to the viewers. The truth is that the words we heard
00:13:40in the Security Council today did not bring anything new from a theoretical
00:13:43perspective. We, as Syrians and as a revolutionary
00:13:47movement that existed before the liberation of northern and northwestern
00:13:51Syria, knew exactly how the organization operates
00:13:54and how it tries to adapt to the new reality
00:13:57that emerged after the fall of its last strongholds
00:14:00Baghouz. Madam, after the fall of Baghouz,
00:14:04the organization announced, through its leader at that time, Abu Bakr
00:14:07al-Baghdadi, its transition to a phase
00:14:10of attrition, which means a change in all
00:14:13fighting methods and a change in all mentalities that it used
00:14:16in military and security
00:14:20approaches, as well as media and political approaches.
00:14:23Therefore, before the liberation, we witnessed that the liberated
00:14:26areas managed by the rebels did not have any operations by the organization,
00:14:29unlike the areas of the SDF and the Syrian regime.
00:14:33Yes, the new situation that was created
00:14:36or that was reiterated in the Security Council for the international community,
00:14:40but which we Syrians understand perfectly, is that the organization
00:14:44adapts to the new security situation after the fall of the Syrian regime. The organization
00:14:48found a fluid security situation
00:14:51with open geographies to each other, especially
00:14:54after the fall of the areas of the Syrian Democratic Forces into the hands of the Syrian
00:14:58government, and
00:15:00the opening of these geographies with all their vast expanses, and with all
00:15:04their complexities, and with all their security problems,
00:15:07and they moved into the hands of the Syrian government. The organization was able to move
00:15:11from these narrow geographies to the entire Syrian geography,
00:15:14knowing that it carries the attrition mentality,
00:15:17and therefore operates in the form of gangs that are not organizationally
00:15:20linked, there are no clear administrative structures, there is a large
00:15:24margin. The administrative decisions taken by
00:15:27ISIS officials in different regions within the Syrian geography.
00:15:31Therefore, the ability of the organization to adapt to the new situation
00:15:34is not new to us. It started it after 2019,
00:15:38but the new thing is that it expanded significantly,
00:15:41especially after the victory of the Syrian
00:15:44revolution and the annexation of northern and eastern Syria to the Syrian
00:15:47government. Just allow me to add this comment: how
00:15:51have ISIS's capabilities
00:15:54in Syria changed in the recent period? What is the shape
00:15:59organization today? The capabilities have changed. The organization is now
00:16:02able to access new financial sources through kidnapping,
00:16:05extortion, and theft. Access to weapons
00:16:09and ammunition depots left by the Assad regime after its fall and the state
00:16:15in the first weeks after the fall, during which the organization was able to access
00:16:19quantities of weapons. Access to sleeper cells
00:16:22that were outside its areas of control, and here I am talking
00:16:25about the desert previously, and later reached sleeper cells in
00:16:29all Syrian geographies. Also, the organization's capabilities have grown
00:16:33through the arrival of a large number or a considerable number of
00:16:36foreign elements. Across the borders, because after the fall of the Syrian
00:16:39regime, there was no strong border control, especially with
00:16:43Iraq. Therefore, a large number of the organization's elements infiltrated from Iraq
00:16:47into Syrian territory, and we noticed
00:16:49that the Ministry of Interior announced in previous
00:16:53the organization's leaders who hold Iraqi nationality,
00:16:56and who were responsible for the bombing of the church
00:17:00in Damascus. Some of them also held Iraqi
00:17:02nationality. Before the Syrian Democratic Forces joined the Syrian government,
00:17:06we noticed how the Syrian Democratic Forces were also investing
00:17:10in ISIS. Therefore, all these situations or all these
00:17:13facts were exploited by the organization to expand its capabilities
00:17:16and also to develop the form it had
00:17:20taken after 2019 through not operating in a clear
00:17:24manner, not engaging in direct frontal clashes with the organization's
00:17:27enemy, relying on simple, swift, and lightning
00:17:31strikes, and large-scale media and political investment in its operations
00:17:35and exploiting the mistakes of the other party.
00:17:38Yes, of course. I welcome again Professor
00:17:41Abdullah, the political analyst, our guest from Amman. Welcome,
00:17:45Professor Abdullah. What, first of all,
00:17:48caught your attention
00:17:50from what was said in this Security Council
00:17:54session, in your opinion?
00:17:57Good evening to you, your guests, and
00:18:01fact, we now feel
00:18:04shift in dealing with Syria. While Syria during
00:18:08the Assad era was part of the problem of ISIS,
00:18:11Syria has become part of the solution. We all know
00:18:17the crisis that the country
00:18:20sectarian problems and chaos.
00:18:24That is, the environment in which it can expand
00:18:28and grow is the environment of chaos that the former
00:18:31Syrian regime provided for it. In fact, there
00:18:35was direct and indirect support for ISIS,
00:18:38because ISIS did not direct its arrows at the Syrian regime
00:18:42as much as it directed its arrows at the rebels in the liberated areas.
00:18:46So, Syria suddenly transformed from a state sponsoring
00:18:49terrorism and a state
00:18:52that was the root cause of the ISIS problem
00:18:56to a state that is part of the solution.
00:18:58The new Syrian state, the new Syrian leadership
00:19:02headed by Mr. Ahmed Al-Shara, is fully serious about
00:19:05unlike But despite all that you have said,
00:19:09despite all that you have said, and with Syria transforming into
00:19:13terrorism, and previously it was a state supporting this
00:19:17environment and blackmailing
00:19:19with this file, despite all this, the Deputy
00:19:23Executive Director of the Counter-Terrorism Committee at the United
00:19:25Nations said that developments in
00:19:29Syria confirm the importance of vigilance in confronting
00:19:33the organization's threat. What is
00:19:35the meaning of this statement?
00:19:38Here, we must emphasize that the situation in Syria is very
00:19:43organization thrives on chaos, and therefore there
00:19:47is a responsibility on the United Nations and a responsibility on major
00:19:51powers, the United States of America, and the European Union, to support
00:19:54Syria and support the stability of Syria
00:19:57and curb those who want
00:19:59sectarian
00:20:03Sweida or elsewhere. Syria must
00:20:06be unified, and therefore what the official in the United
00:20:09Nations said is 100% correct,
00:20:12that the danger of ISIS may increase,
00:20:17not only inside Syria but also outside Syria if
00:20:20Syria is not supported and its stability is not guaranteed.
00:20:24Syria must return completely stable,
00:20:27completely unified, with all territories under the control
00:20:30of the Syrian state. Only then can we say that ISIS
00:20:33has completely diminished in Syria.
00:20:37The responsibility in the Iraqi side of
00:20:41this region, either
00:20:44there is no support for the Syrian state
00:20:47and some areas like Sweida and others are allowed to
00:20:50Therefore, in this context, what is required from the United Nations? How can the United
00:20:54Nations play a positive role in helping Syria
00:20:58confront this threat, given that the United
00:21:01Nations says that this is a threat, there is a threat
00:21:04today?
00:21:07the financial level, financial support
00:21:11this organization. Military
00:21:14organization thrived on wars and
00:21:18battles. Expertise and logistical support for the Syrian
00:21:22state are needed to know the locations of that organization.
00:21:25We know that during the Syrian revolution, the organization
00:21:29operated openly in the open desert, and cars
00:21:33would travel in tens and perhaps hundreds of
00:21:36convoys, and not a single plane,
00:21:39neither Russian, nor Iranian, nor from the Syrian regime, would take off to bomb
00:21:42those convoys. So, we need financial support, intelligence
00:21:46support, military support, in addition to moral support
00:21:50for the Syrian government to end the state
00:21:54of perhaps sectarian
00:21:57Syrian government cannot tolerate. When there
00:22:00is a problem, for example, in Syria with Qasd or
00:22:05Sweida, this is an environment
00:22:08that supports ISIS because ISIS
00:22:11tells its followers that
00:22:15we are fighting a specific sect, that we are the Muslims
00:22:18and others are not Muslims. We must prove
00:22:22to the misguided
00:22:25the ignorant who still follow that organization,
00:22:29that this state is a state
00:22:33for all Syrians, regardless of their sects. There is no
00:22:40file has been completely closed. This is from one side. From another
00:22:43side, the issue of Israel and Israeli
00:22:46interventions. This is the responsibility of the United Nations to pressure
00:22:50the Zionist entity to stop its support for
00:22:53the immigration or the
00:22:56expansion
00:22:58of the Zionist entity in areas in Syria, because this threatens the geography
00:23:02of Syria, the unity of Syria, and the independence of Syria. Therefore,
00:23:05this will affect the focus of the Syrian administration
00:23:08in fighting that organization. So, the United Nations bears a great
00:23:12responsibility. It must intervene immediately to
00:23:16solve the problem of the Zionist entity, to solve the problem
00:23:20of some areas that are trying to escape the control of the Syrian state, and this requires
00:23:24a decision, it does not require money. When the government wanted to
00:23:27enter Sweida, within a few hours, it was in
00:23:31the heart of Sweida, but it was forced to leave due to
00:23:35equations. I will return to you, Professor. Yes,
00:23:38I will return to you shortly, Professor Abd Allah. Allow me to transfer
00:23:42the point you raised to my guest, Professor Ammar. Our guest says
00:23:47chaos. In your opinion, how can the organization be prevented
00:23:51from recruiting new elements? I
00:23:56of factors that need to be considered
00:23:59and that will help dry up the sources that
00:24:03the organization relies on for recruitment. First and foremost,
00:24:07developing the tools used by official
00:24:10bodies concerned with fighting the organization,
00:24:13intelligence, the Ministry of Interior, and the Ministry of Defense, primarily
00:24:16to pursue the organization in a very big way, especially at the technical
00:24:20level. Today, the organization can recruit,
00:24:24plan, and communicate through Telegram groups
00:24:27or various communication methods, some of which are encrypted
00:24:30and some of which are unknown or cannot be penetrated.
00:24:34This, of course, the concerned
00:24:37ministries have accumulated a great deal of experience,
00:24:41more than ten years of fighting the organization in northern
00:24:44and eastern Syria. However, this experience, as they say, is necessary but not
00:24:48sufficient. It is a necessary but not sufficient condition. It must be developed
00:24:51to adapt to the new reality of fighting the organization.
00:24:54This is first. Second, there must be close
00:24:58and clearly structured cooperation between Syrian society and the concerned
00:25:02ministries, especially the Ministry of Interior and intelligence. Syrian
00:25:05society cannot rely
00:25:08institutions concerned with fighting the organization to fight
00:25:14to the state. All Syrians
00:25:18Syrian society itself, and Syrian society must
00:25:21also participate in this process through cooperation between it and the concerned
00:25:25official institutions, and this comes through
00:25:29clarifying the mechanisms of cooperation between the institution and society.
00:25:32Third, genuine regional cooperation, not
00:25:36only at the information level, but perhaps by conducting operations on both sides
00:25:39of the borders. ISIS is not a Syrian problem. Solving the problem of ISIS
00:25:43in Syria does not mean the end of the organization. It is an regional
00:25:46and international problem, and therefore there must be a great
00:25:50deal of coordination between regional countries in fighting the organization,
00:25:53starting from Turkey to Iraq, to Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt,
00:25:57Lebanon, and other countries concerned with this file. We cannot rely
00:26:00only on the market effort to solve the problem of ISIS inside Syria,
00:26:04because if we manage to solve it now in
00:26:08the region or in some neighboring countries, it will return to enter
00:26:11Syria again. The fourth point that I also believe is
00:26:14very important is developing the economic situation, and this is also the concern
00:26:18of regional and international countries. Turning the wheel of the economy
00:26:22genuinely and attracting urgent, important, and large
00:26:24investments to Syria will lead to the economy's
00:26:28recovery, and thus Syrian youth will be busy working
00:26:32and building and taking care of building a family and rebuilding
00:26:35homes. All of this will make the youth
00:26:38or the Syrian youth not fall prey to the organization's propaganda or not fall
00:26:42prey to the need that the organization exploits to recruit this Syrian
00:26:46youth to do something that he may see as simple, but it is
00:26:50part of a large and very dangerous chain. The fifth and final point,
00:26:54from my perspective, is increasing security
00:26:57and media awareness, and this is the role of all The official
00:27:01and unofficial media institutions, all of which carry the national concern,
00:27:04the Syrian youth must always and continuously
00:27:08realize that involvement with the organization
00:27:11in any work, no matter how small, will lead
00:27:14him to confront the state later, and this will lead
00:27:18to the destruction of his future
00:27:22feel that he is only carrying out the transportation process, not
00:27:25the booby-trapping or bombing process or transporting people. He is
00:27:29transporting some materials that are used later in bombing operations.
00:27:34the security level, at the religious level, and at the political level
00:27:38is very important, and we must cooperate with it all as media
00:27:41institutions with each other through dignitaries, through Friday preachers,
00:27:45through media platforms, through media activists,
00:27:48through official media platforms.
00:27:51Beautiful, I mean, Professor Abdullah, you listened
00:27:54to what Professor Ammar said. Professor
00:27:58Ammar spoke on several levels. He also meant
00:28:02that the ideology of the organization should be fought from the beginning
00:28:05and, I mean, close the door to
00:28:09any step for this organization
00:28:12to attract
00:28:15the Syrian youth today. In your opinion, after
00:28:19the liberation of Syria, a new reality for the organization. What is the tactic
00:28:22that the organization has adopted, especially since it no longer has
00:28:26a place, for example,
00:28:28to launch from, as it did previously in Raqqa or other
00:28:33areas?
00:28:35Certainly, the organization received a very strong blow after
00:28:38the fall of the Syrian regime and after the liberation. The blow
00:28:42it received was not only a military blow, but also an ideological
00:28:45blow,
00:28:48organization and those that organization was trying to recruit,
00:28:52whether from Syria or elsewhere,
00:28:54found that this state provides
00:28:58the serial freedoms on which ISIS
00:29:01in Syria was based, specifically that the defunct regime
00:29:05is an infidel regime in quotation marks,
00:29:09spreading atheism, preventing mosques, preventing prayer.
00:29:12He was truthful in that part, but the mechanism
00:29:16of the solution was the problem. The
00:29:19rebels knew that that regime was
00:29:23suppressing freedoms, preventing, for example,
00:29:27prayer in the army or other places, but he did
00:29:30not do what he did.
00:29:33Therefore, we must fight that organization
00:29:36not only militarily. Since the organization received a blow,
00:29:40as you confirmed, and it has no starting point or
00:29:44safe places, how does it carry out operations from time to time?
00:29:48and,
00:29:50you know, it has carried out more than one operation, and the Syrian state also announced
00:29:54striking the organization's hideouts and arresting many
00:29:57of the organization's members in several areas. We are talking about Aleppo,
00:30:01about the desert, about the Aleppo countryside, and also the eastern
00:30:05region in general.
00:30:07The tactic for the state has changed,
00:30:10meaning the idea for ISIS,
00:30:13sorry, that the idea of the state remains and expands has completely
00:30:16ended. It used to control very vast areas, meaning larger than the country
00:30:20of Lebanon, meaning in terms of geographical area. It used to control a large area,
00:30:23and therefore it used to operate with the mentality
00:30:27that it owned the caliphate or the state or what have you, but now
00:30:30its tactics have completely changed. It is still active, still
00:30:34effective, but it is now operating within a guerrilla
00:30:37warfare system, meaning it targets specific personalities,
00:30:40it tries to assassinate a specific person, meaning in today's report in the Security Council
00:30:44session, it was mentioned that President Ahmed Al-Sharaa was subjected to five assassination attempts in
00:30:482025, including the Minister of Interior and the Minister
00:30:51of Foreign Affairs, Al-Shaibani, and Mr. Anas Khattab. So,
00:30:54I mean, the way that organization deals
00:30:57with things has changed.