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00:00:00He prepared for it, that it is
00:00:02discussed the reality of speech in the a good policy that leads to Arab relations from which
00:00:05Syria benefits, even if indirectly.
00:00:07component, but some people were with Assad, some people were with This may improve Syria's relations
00:00:10"By order of with Egypt more and more, as Egypt is one of Haftar's supporters and his team.
00:00:13But also,
00:00:17الحمد لله started its course. But this it benefits Syria to play a mediating role, which may
00:00:21to many people who were with lead to an external role for Syria in the coming
00:00:23days in other files outside the region.
00:00:27Syria's rise in So, this can be imagined, but
00:00:31of work on I rule out that it will be on the Syrian foreign policy priorities table now, as there are files of
00:00:35higher priority and much greater danger.
00:00:39points of agreement with Yes, okay, Dr. Muhammad Anad, speaking also about
00:00:42the other files that were included in this visit
00:00:46and with the presence of the head of the Syrian intelligence service,
00:00:51now, what concerns us most Mr. Abdul Qader Tahhan, there is
00:00:53for Syria to engage a greater focus or more attention
00:00:56on the security aspect, considering the first visit that
00:01:00Minister Shibani made to Tripoli. There were
00:01:04a state of reaction to this files related to air transport lines that facilitated, for example, the return
00:01:07of many Syrians.
00:01:10a position, let's say, in Also, transport lines and the establishment of a business council, combating also the issue of
00:01:15in cooperation with all parties in drug smuggling and many pending files between the two countries. This time, the security
00:01:18aspect occupies a wider space. To what extent
00:01:22can there be Syrian-Libyan cooperation in the security
00:01:26and intelligence aspect? I mentioned a moment ago that our first visit was a visit
00:01:30within the shuttle tours
00:01:32a very big responsibility in fighting this type of of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that he undertook in order to rebuild relations
00:01:36between Syria, the Syrian state, and Arab countries, and at
00:01:40discourse that and diplomacy. the forefront of which was Libya. Now, the security aspect after
00:01:44the problems that occur in a period of time, why? Because Benghazi specifically was
00:01:46the main destination for some security files.
00:01:49As I said a moment ago, there were
00:01:53officers who belonged to the former Syrian regime who went
00:01:56there either as trainers or as...
00:02:00There are lists, there are names of specific individuals
00:02:04whom the Syrian state is demanding, for example. I expect that the dialogue is now taking place within these
00:02:07files in some detail through the head of the intelligence service, Major General Abdul Qader
00:02:11Tahhan, and security officials in Benghazi. In addition,
00:02:16to address this Syria doing this Benghazi was a port
00:02:16type of through which the Syrian regime exports Captagon drugs
00:02:21some former fighters, to South Africa and Europe. This is a security file that must
00:02:23be put on the table in order to stop this work,
00:02:27in addition to illegal immigration that started from
00:02:31Benghazi, from Benghazi, for Syrians. So, this
00:02:34file must be on the table of dialogue or the table
00:02:37of discussion in order to solve these security files whose time has come
00:02:41after strengthening relations and completing some logistical
00:02:45or diplomatic matters that were in Tripoli and after completing the discussion
00:02:49of the file
00:02:50representatives in the government, in of opening
00:02:51and communicating with the consulate in Benghazi. So, these are four major security files,
00:02:55and better. This is on and perhaps also
00:02:57the discussion of the file of officers
00:03:00there and their recovery, as far as I know, and perhaps I am
00:03:06are necessary against not sure about it, there are some pilots who went to Benghazi
00:03:08with their planes. This is information I am not sure about, but that's what I heard.
00:03:13Haftar, who is fighting against So, if this information is true, then this is a very big file that must be discussed and must
00:03:17be dealt with at the security level between
00:03:20perhaps, to ending this the two sides. Okay, Dr. Jamal, I come back to you before
00:03:23talking about the files. We are still
00:03:26in the process of praising this major Syrian step taken by
00:03:30and comprehensive point. Do I want this Syrian diplomacy Maysa, many in this visit, since we
00:03:34talked about, at the beginning, we talked about
00:03:38managing balanced files in one
00:03:41country. How do you view
00:03:43the staunchest enemies of this today the regional powers
00:03:45and the international community regarding this
00:03:48to reduce this courageous Syrian step that
00:03:51the Minister of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates
00:03:54took, and which emphasized
00:03:58the rejection of excluding any party
00:04:01and dealing with all parties in Libya as a single, indivisible
00:04:04bloc?
00:04:06Thank you for this insightful question. I want to say that
00:04:09the goal of building,
00:04:12the goal of Syrian foreign policy now is to build
00:04:15trust, and trust is earned repeatedly
00:04:18with one action after another
00:04:21that builds a degree of reliability, builds
00:04:25a degree of trust, of belief
00:04:28that this country truly
00:04:31Jamal Mansour, Lecturer in So, all this means what it says. Syria announced a zero-problems policy,
00:04:33and it is now pursuing that in
00:04:35the question that arises is, this a practical sense. Even Israel, after its various aggressions,
00:04:40incitement campaigns come from Syrian diplomatic policy did not cease, not out of love
00:04:43for Israel, not normalization with Israel, but out of determination to make
00:04:47the path diplomatic, not military, with the aim of
00:04:50achieving security through politics and negotiation in a way that guarantees
00:04:54Syrian rights, in a way that does not accept compromising them.
00:04:57But the calm diplomatic action
00:05:01is an indication of a new line in Syrian policy that is completely
00:05:04different from the line of Syrian policy under the former
00:05:08regime in the past. So, part of that is this
00:05:11action. This Syrian initiative towards
00:05:14two Libyans who differ and conflict with each
00:05:18other. Firstly, to preserve, as Professor Anad said, the interests
00:05:21of Syrians in Libya and in Syria through negotiation
00:05:24with whoever is in Libya to preserve the interests
00:05:27of those. Secondly,
00:05:30to engage in negotiation with two parties who do not speak to
00:05:33each other, but who, as it appears on the surface now, and in terms
00:05:37of image and action, are talking to the new Syria.
00:05:40So, the new Syria emerges to the world
00:05:43with a posture, with a manner, with a stance that shows
00:05:47that it says something and does it, and does it again,
00:05:51and does it again, and does it again, which gives credibility
00:05:54to Syria's claim of a radical change
00:05:57in its foreign policy. And that is something that could be built
00:06:00upon what we discussed in the previous question. There could be a possibility
00:06:06in negotiation as a kind of mediator
00:06:09between these two conflicting Libyan parties, or other Arab
00:06:13parties, or other international parties, which grants Syrian
00:06:16diplomacy new victories, grants Syria a posture,
00:06:20grants Syria
00:06:23international diplomacy as a power that
00:06:26opponents resort to when they want to
00:06:29find a mediator to bring them closer, and also gives Syria
00:06:33credibility that may open up other avenues for it on the diplomatic
00:06:36level, allowing it to have
00:06:39opportunities for negotiation or opportunities to obtain aid or
00:06:43investments or what follows. How, how does
00:06:47Syrian diplomacy do all of this today, Dr. Jamal? I mean, today we
00:06:50are talking about Syria being a mediator
00:06:53for all
00:06:56the region, and perhaps outside the region
00:06:59in the future. What is the secret word that Syria possesses?
00:07:03That result,
00:07:07my statement was that result we may reach if Syrian policy
00:07:10continues on that continuous line, without interruption,
00:07:14to be truthful to what it says, to do it again
00:07:18and again and again.
00:07:21Excuse me, trust is built by repetition,
00:07:24built by accumulation.
00:07:29diplomatic engagement with Libya and with other
00:07:32countries may enable Syria to build a role for itself
00:07:36that may go beyond regional stages. I am not saying that this
00:07:39is achieved, I am not saying that this is necessarily a goal of Syrian
00:07:43foreign policy. I am saying that this may happen if
00:07:47Syrian policy continues to do so
00:07:50repeatedly, with the intention
00:07:53of emphasizing the credibility of Syrian foreign policy based
00:07:57on zero problems, negotiation instead of engaging in unnecessary
00:08:01conflicts,
00:08:04everyone without exclusion. Yes, okay,
00:08:07Doctor, stopping at "zero problems."
00:08:10Syria presents a zero-problems policy, but
00:08:14this means that it does not align with any party and also does not want
00:08:17to present this alignment to anyone, and this is what you
00:08:21and Dr. Jamal explained in this regard.
00:08:24Okay, how does Libya, with its two sides, read
00:08:27this Syrian policy, especially after the statement of
00:08:31Lieutenant General Saddam Khalifa Haftar that Libya stands by
00:08:35the Syrian people, and six weeks before that, Abdel
00:08:38Hamid Dbeibeh, the head of the Libyan government, made the same statement? Herein
00:08:42lies the essence,
00:08:45the clear message that Syrian diplomacy
00:08:48conveyed, that it will
00:08:51not hesitate to communicate with any party whatsoever
00:08:55in order to achieve the higher interest of the Syrian citizen, and it is not concerned with
00:08:59the disputes between the two sides. Another message, perhaps implicitly,
00:09:03is that it will not take sides in supporting one brother over
00:09:06another, but rather it may be a party to reconcile between the two brothers, and this is what
00:09:10we noticed in their visit to Tripoli six weeks ago, a month
00:09:20good with the Syrian people and with the Syrian state, because the Syrian state
00:09:24has proven during the past period that it is a state that seeks
00:09:27security stability, political stability
00:09:31for economic development and the rebuilding of the country,
00:09:34and this is, perhaps, the point of communication
00:09:37between all, or the point of coordination between all Arab
00:09:41and Syrian countries. topic
00:09:45converges on one point: that we
00:09:48help the Syrian people to rise again
00:09:51and for Syria to restore its normal relations with Arab countries,
00:09:55and they do not want to be a party to the Syrian
00:09:59problems or to cause problems in Syria,
00:10:02and we, through the statements of Mr. Ahmed Shar, the President
00:10:05of the Republic, that he will not be a party or
00:10:09a source of any problems for neighboring countries or any other country. This
00:10:12is in our interest, therefore we observed this response:
00:10:16not to enter into conflicting parties, warring parties, different
00:10:20parties, in order to achieve the first step of Syrian
00:10:23foreign policy. There were also previous files at the level
00:10:27of Arab countries in general, when the Syrian Minister of Foreign Affairs
00:10:31visited Morocco and before that Algeria,
00:10:34the differences between Arab countries, Syria was equally distant
00:10:37from everyone. How will this calm
00:10:41and soft Syrian policy contribute to reaching a faster solution
00:10:45and a more
00:10:48dynamic movement for
00:10:52the coming period, both politically and in terms
00:10:56the ground? I can say that the political
00:11:00foreign diplomacy of the Syrian state is to seek
00:11:04everyone and not to enter into any point of disagreement in order to achieve
00:11:08the higher interest. This will speed up the process of
00:11:11communication and will also speed up the process of construction, because in Syria
00:11:16after the security and political aspect is the economic
00:11:20aspect. Therefore, relations must be, as Dr.
00:11:23Jamal said, building trust for foreign investments,
00:11:27and we know that Libyan businessmen and Libyan investments in
00:11:30Syria so far have not had an opportunity. Therefore, perhaps
00:11:34these steps will be a prelude
00:11:37to attracting Libyan investments in Syria, as we have seen
00:11:41in some other countries, and we desperately need such
00:11:45investments to revive the economic situation inside
00:11:48Syria. Okay, Dr.
00:11:52Jamal, I will conclude with you. In light of the discussion that
00:11:55you and Dr. Muhammad Anad, our guest here in the studio,
00:11:58have presented, we talked about Syrian
00:12:02politics
00:12:04And so that some do not say, "Where is the Syrian file
00:12:08in all of this? Where is the situation of Syrians in all
00:12:11that you mentioned?" The beginning of the discussion
00:12:15was to strengthen bilateral relations and practical
00:12:19communication channels to serve the Syrian community
00:12:22members, and you talked about priority files. What are
00:12:26these files, especially since this is the first visit made by His Excellency
00:12:29the Minister of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates and the accompanying delegation to
00:12:33Benghazi?
00:12:35Actually, Professor Anad talked about that. I will rely on what he said. The security
00:12:39files that Abdul Qader Tahhan is discussing
00:12:43relate to
00:12:46some pilots
00:12:48who may have gone with their planes or without their planes
00:12:52for training in Libya, their return
00:12:55to the search for missing persons in Libyan prisons, specifically Haftar's prisons
00:12:59in Benghazi. I mean, there are about
00:13:02300 to 400, if I remember the number correctly, missing
00:13:06there. Add to that that the opening of the consulate, as
00:13:09Dr. Anad mentioned, will make
00:13:13the lives of Syrians residing in eastern Libya much less difficult
00:13:17than it was, rather easier
00:13:20the side of the available
00:13:23or directly open files. What is very
00:13:26important in this, in this, in this visit is what comes after these files,
00:13:30which is building a degree of trust.
00:13:33Let's also talk clearly. We are talking about
00:13:38the Libyan administration that is in the eastern
00:13:42region of western Libya, Tripoli, which is a force with
00:13:46an Islamic
00:13:48character. Haftar was also supported by the UAE and Egypt, who had
00:13:52problems with all currents that
00:13:56came from Islamic directions. The Syrian government
00:13:59clearly came from an Islamic current,
00:14:02and yet it conducts effective and wise diplomatic
00:14:05talks even with
00:14:08trend, which opens
00:14:11the door to the argument that all these
00:14:15previous enmities can be put aside,
00:14:18indicating that we are talking to you. So, what prevents
00:14:21you from talking to our counterparts in the West?
00:14:26All this is, it is, let's say,
00:14:29deferred results, not
00:14:32direct, but they begin from the moment of action.
00:14:35Syrian diplomacy in this framework, specifically on the Libyan
00:14:39file, may bring about these
00:14:41results. So, what about the other deferred results
00:14:44that I told you about, within the region or globally? There is
00:14:48a lot that can be said about possible positive
00:14:51deferred results that this visit will bring. Thank you very much, Doctor.
00:15:20and Expatriates organized a consultative workshop on developing a national
00:15:23approach to dealing with hate speech
00:15:27with the participation of relevant national bodies and technical assistance
00:15:31from experts from the office of the Special Envoy of the Secretary-General
00:15:34of the United Nations to Syria. The workshop
00:15:40Syrian context, international principles and standards,
00:15:42comparative approaches, the existing national
00:15:45framework and related challenges, intervention priorities,
00:15:49the roles of concerned parties, and national coordination mechanisms, in addition
00:15:52to subsequent steps related to preparing
00:15:56a national policy and technical
00:15:59support needs.
00:16:02and hatred and addressing its effects.
00:16:05Today, in Damascus, the consultative meeting organized by the Ministry of
00:16:09Foreign Affairs and Expatriates, in coordination with the United Nations,
00:16:12and with the participation of a number of representatives from ministers
00:16:16and bodies, aims to discuss the reality of hate speech
00:16:19and develop national and legal mechanisms that promote
00:16:23civil peace and support joint coordination to confront societal
00:16:27challenges. It must be done professionally.
00:16:30There are many
00:16:32national priorities that lead to
00:16:36freeing Syria from the effects of the former regime
00:16:40during the past period. As we mentioned during the opening session, we worked on dismantling
00:16:43many of the things that the pioneering Assad regime imposed on our people,
00:16:47including the legacy of sanctions. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
00:16:52the Syrian government, has worked to free Syria
00:16:56from these effects. The era of Assad's chemical weapons
00:17:00and the weapons he left behind, these priorities are present
00:17:03before our people. The goal is to reach
00:17:07for Syria the form that the Syrian people deserve,
00:17:11including what we now observe,
00:17:14the existence of uncontrolled
00:17:17is inconsistent with the principles of the Syrian people and inconsistent with the values
00:17:20represented by the Syrian people, and which the Syrian people of course reject
00:17:24fundamentally. Transforming this
00:17:28popular state into
00:17:31a disciplined governance framework
00:17:34is the goal of the effort that begins.
00:18:07The initiative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
00:18:10and we welcome this step from the Syrian government,
00:18:13because hate speech affects people's lives
00:18:16and also poses a challenge
00:18:19to Syria's stability. Today, we
00:18:23started the discussion with
00:18:27the ministries,
00:18:30to get a clear picture of exactly what kind of
00:18:34hate speech exists in Syria, and at the same time, we start
00:18:38the discussion about
00:18:40what actions
00:18:43this speech, and we will certainly continue on this
00:18:46path with civil society, religious
00:18:49leaders, and so on,
00:18:52to reach an action plan, and this plan
00:18:55will make Syria the first country in the Arab world with this
00:19:17hate speech in Syria
00:19:20and the governmental and community efforts
00:19:25speech? Hello to you. Good evening to you all.
00:19:29I will actually talk from a purely societal perspective. Now,
00:19:32let's move away from political analyses. We need to distinguish
00:19:36now between hate speech
00:19:39and incitement. We need to distinguish between two basic things:
00:19:43systematic incitement led by media
00:19:45outlets and media platforms,
00:19:49and supported by algorithms
00:19:52that contribute to spreading rumors more, and this is paid for, and we can
00:19:56dedicate another space for this discussion. Let me touch on the second
00:19:59path or distinguish between the second path, which is incitement
00:20:03or hate speech that actually exists in society, because we cannot
00:20:06deny it. And it is coming from all sides, I mean, let's be transparent with
00:20:10ourselves. Well,
00:20:13discourse, which is not paid for, which is
00:20:16not intended to sow discord, which
00:20:19actually exists in society, what are its causes? What fuels it? Yes,
00:20:23excellent. This is the point we need to discuss. In my personal opinion,
00:20:26it is fueled by a set of
00:20:28factors.
00:20:30The first factor is that
00:20:33there is truly no end to the Assad
00:20:36regime's grip on Syrian society. There is no
00:20:39end to the Assad regime's grip, meaning that
00:20:42today you are sitting
00:20:46in a place, in a society that is diverse,
00:20:49meaning it's not from one component.
00:20:52It's diverse from different components, and even from a single
00:20:57the revolution. People were oppressed, and people were oppressors because of
00:21:01certain political considerations, because of the delay in the justice file, which has now
00:21:07delay led to what? It led
00:21:11Assad starting to raise their voices, starting to speak, people started to see them
00:21:15in front of them. There are thugs who have not yet
00:21:17been held accountable. There are remnants
00:21:20that are still present in schools, in state departments. This Assad
00:21:23regime, in addition to the Assad mentality that prevails
00:21:27in state departments, in educational communities,
00:21:30in society itself, if this situation is not ended, it will continue to fuel
00:21:34hate speech. One. Two, you
00:21:36have, unfortunately, we have to say that media
00:21:40platforms and news channels, unfortunately,
00:21:43sometimes intentionally or unintentionally, are causing sectarian
00:21:47strife and incitement, so there is a reaction from
00:21:50Syrian citizens, and thus there is
00:21:54discourse. Three, it is
00:21:57the absence of, let me say,
00:22:01weakness in the issue of justice in society, even societal
00:22:05justice. You also know that hate speech harms civil
00:22:08peace, or even civil peace affects the issue
00:22:12of sectarian discourse. So, they are interconnected.
00:22:16As long as I don't have civil peace, as long as societal justice is absent,
00:22:20then hate speech will remain fueled. I will
00:22:23give you a real-life example that I experienced today.
00:22:27Today, when the liberation happened,
00:22:31I was living in Turkey. After 14 years, 13 years,
00:22:34when the liberation happened, I went down to Damascus to see
00:22:38the situation. Thank God, I saw the situation and returned to
00:22:41Turkey. My Turkish friend, she is
00:22:44a lawyer. When I visited her after
00:22:47my visit to Syria, she hugged
00:22:50me and kissed me, and she was almost kissing my hand, and she was apologizing,
00:22:54sad and upset with herself.
00:22:57Why? Because she
00:22:58once
00:23:01asked me, "Maysaa, when will you return to Syria?" She blamed herself
00:23:04after she saw the Saydnaya massacres and Saydnaya prison and what
00:23:08crimes were uncovered by Assad. The Turks started to blame
00:23:11themselves for the racist discourse they adopted against
00:23:15Syrians and apologized. Well, today, when I returned to Syria and settled
00:23:19down, by God, no one apologized to her. Well,
00:23:21why? This is the laughable, regrettable thing. So here you are
00:23:25harming civil peace. Today, if there is no
00:23:28apology, if there is no regret, if there is no
00:23:31abandonment of Assad and the Assad mentality, you will remain
00:23:34fueling hate speech. No one is trying to mend
00:23:38the hearts of the oppressed, the prisoners, the missing,
00:23:41their families, the displaced.
00:23:44Unfortunately, society did not adopt this
00:23:47situation, and I also did not see
00:23:50initiatives from the state to adopt the situation, but this situation is purely
00:23:54societal. So, if we want to, yes, Ms. Maysaa, from that perspective, you are saying we haven't seen
00:23:58anything from the state in this regard. Well, holding such
00:24:01workshops to define hate speech, mechanisms to deal with it, and even
00:24:05mechanisms to combat it, doesn't it constitute a first step,
00:24:10discourse or the nature of this discourse and holding accountable the people who are
00:24:14directing it to Syrian society in general? Thank you for your question, but let me
00:24:17answer you with a basic
00:24:20discourse and this hatred? Do I want it to be
00:24:24stemming from me? My neighbor is Alawite, Druze,
00:24:27Christian, Sunni. We live together. I want to adopt
00:24:30hate speech as a citizen. I want the state to adopt
00:24:33it because it is a national demand for me to
00:24:36live in peace with my neighbors, not because there is an international
00:24:40demand that I must implement a policy for hate
00:24:43speech and confront it. This is the core point from which we should start
00:24:47to see how people are talking, how they are oriented, what
00:24:51they are demanding in this regard.
00:24:53Therefore, I say that now distinguishing, initially, who is the party
00:24:57directing hate speech, from here
00:24:59the point of fighting this discourse fundamentally starts. Correct, this is
00:25:03the point we mentioned initially, distinguishing between. Now we will talk
00:25:07about the issue of directed discourse, which is paid
00:25:11for. Now we will talk about it. But let me be honest first. I want
00:25:15to see that this is a national demand. I want to see the people who supported Assad
00:25:18apologize. I want to see that there are indeed practical steps
00:25:22being taken in civil peace. Here, you are preventing discord.
00:25:26It happens when paid channels come, when
00:25:30outside, the community will stand
00:25:33against them. Now we come to the point that you asked about, which is
00:25:37the paid campaigns. Frankly, very clearly, I mean,
00:25:40it's the ABC of society and politics. What is the goal of paid
00:25:43campaigns? Their goal is to incite discord, sow discord,
00:25:47their goal is to undermine civil peace, their goal is to cast doubt on the government
00:25:50and its capabilities. I mean, if I tell you to just spend one
00:25:53day and monitor the rumors and
00:25:57the gossip that comes out on a red carpet,
00:26:00on trends. No, not just real trends,
00:26:04I mean harmful trends, I mean distorted
00:26:08and bad trends, unfortunately, that say,
00:26:12Sheikh so-and-so, what did he say? They demolished Salah al-Din's statue," or that, "The
00:26:16Jews and Israelis are now in Jadidet Artouz in the mall so-and-so." Guys, please be patient
00:26:20with us a little. So, this is paid for, I call it
00:26:24here. Its goal is indeed to cast doubt on the state's
00:26:27capabilities to manage the internal situation. But I reiterate that
00:26:31the more we strengthen Syrian society from within against
00:26:34these campaigns, the more our discourse will be directed
00:26:38internally rather than desiring to
00:26:41achieve or show countries and the United Nations that I
00:26:45have a policy because it requires how, how do I
00:26:49empower the people regarding the issue of resisting
00:26:51these false propaganda or rumors or
00:26:55even the paid parties that are trying to spread a certain discourse
00:26:59for an agenda of their own, which is to undermine civil peace first? Exactly,
00:27:03you have several paths that can be worked on, as you said, one of them is workshops,
00:27:06but also giving civil society
00:27:09spaces, such as creating reconciliation councils between
00:27:12communities that had
00:27:14tensions. You also have a legal path that needs to be worked on,
00:27:18a security path to prosecute these people and criminalize them and issue a law.
00:27:21to criminalize the campaigns, the systematic campaigns specifically, I am
00:27:25also talking about a media track, meaning you here are a news channel and a Ministry of Information. I
00:27:28believe that it carries
00:27:34discourse that is not a discourse, meaning it is a
00:27:38balanced discourse for people that takes into account
00:27:41the negatives in society and at the same time enhances the positives
00:27:45that the state is doing. So it is not a discourse
00:27:48that is completely aligned with the state's policy in such a way that everything
00:27:51is fine, everything is good, and everything is being done
00:27:55there is a policy in this regard being implemented by the state, and it is not
00:27:58also negative and discouraging for people. The media
00:28:02plays a very important role. Also, society, the
00:28:05societal role and an educational role, meaning schools must play their role,
00:28:09mosques, as I told you, reconciliation councils that
00:28:13are held, in addition to workshops that can
00:28:16be held
00:28:19type of discourse from all parties, in addition to
00:28:22a fundamental point we want to talk about: there are media
00:28:25outlets, for example, that deliberately provoke
00:28:28people, as if they are going to people and telling them
00:28:34to work on hate speech, to create discord among themselves. For example, when
00:28:38there is an attack on a village from the villages, for example, on the coast, immediately
00:28:42a media outlet or a presenter says to you, on private channels, of course, or
00:28:45foreign ones, the attack has sectarian reasons. You feel as if God
00:28:49has given him legal understanding and he has become
00:28:51a judge and wants
00:28:55تستنى نتائج التحقيق ما بدك تستنى تعرف حيثيات الحدث دغري شو بيقول
00:28:58you, it has sectarian motives. Insulting women has sectarian
00:29:02motives. Killing has motives. Kidnapping has sectarian
00:29:05murders
00:29:09by another component, it's just
00:29:12a criminal offense. So this
00:29:15is provocation practiced by some media
00:29:18outlets. This fuels hate speech. There must
00:29:21be balanced media coverage so that
00:29:25the standards are consistent in media
00:29:28coverage or in news coverage. Okay, Professor
00:29:33points you mentioned from the beginning of the discussion,
00:29:36perhaps the most prominent of which is the issue, meaning what
00:29:40is being done by media outlets,
00:29:43perhaps foreign ones, as you described them,
00:29:47and some individuals who raise
00:29:50their voices and they have negative stances
00:29:54during the past years. In contrast,
00:29:57these people say that when anyone offers an apology
00:30:01to the Syrian people, his name is.
00:30:04After 14 years, you come to apologize. What are the solutions
00:30:07today so that we can reach and raise
00:30:11the national discourse in the face of all other discourses, away from
00:30:14القنوات الخارجيه بعيدا عن المجسمات
00:30:17and so on? Social
00:30:21When a person feels that he has justice,
00:30:23his injustice has been resolved.
00:30:26He no longer demands anything else, even
00:30:29ما بيعود بيطالب باي شيء ثاني حتى بصير ما بيطالب حتى بالاعتزال. اذا
00:30:32you want, there is a lack of justice, victims, there are
00:30:36مظلمه مظلمات موجوده ايه
00:30:39وللاسف بعض القنوات بدل ما
00:30:43تتعامل مع هذا الوضع وتتفهم هذا ملف حساس
00:30:46يعني لا يجب التعامل معه ابدا ب بخلفيات
00:30:50مثل ما ذكرتيها حضرتك ابدا لازم ابعاد
00:30:53الخلفيات العقائديه والطائفيه عن
00:30:56when the victims feel that there is