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00:00:37Welcome, dear viewers, to a new episode of Syria Today.
00:00:40In our first segment, we discuss the visit of Foreign
00:00:43Minister Asaad Al-Shibani,
00:00:47we consider the visit from accompanied by the Head of General Intelligence, to the Libyan city of Benghazi, and his meeting with the army
00:00:52within a series of commander there, Saddam Khalifa Haftar. What is the nature of this visit,
00:00:54taking place in and what are the issues discussed in it? In our second segment,
00:00:58we discuss the Ministry of Follow-up's announcement of the gasoline
00:01:02crisis resulting from poor quality and non-compliance
00:01:05with quality standards. So, who is responsible for the arrival of low-quality
00:01:09gasoline to the markets? In the third segment,
00:01:12we discuss the foiling of an attempt to smuggle more
00:01:16than 100,000 Captagon pills that were headed to
00:01:19Saudi Arabia through the Nasib border crossing and the dismantling of a
00:01:22smuggling network in Deir ez-Zor and Al-Hasakah. So, why
00:01:25have drug smuggling attempts intensified across the Syrian border,
00:01:28and who is behind them? In our final segment,
00:01:34are deeply rooted in we discuss a British decision to withdraw asylum status granted to Syrians
00:01:37and complaints about long waiting periods for decisions on asylum
00:01:41or permanent residency applications. What criteria does Europe
00:01:45follow in reviewing asylum cases? Welcome.
00:01:51but everyone knows
00:01:51will facilitate a lot, especially in
00:02:05Benghazi will unblock many
00:02:14in this conflict also negatively affected
00:02:20Foreign Minister Asaad more than 70% of respond, Al-Shibani visited the conflict in
00:02:20Libyan territories. Therefore, it is
00:02:23the Libyan city of Benghazi, during which he met with the army
00:02:26commander, Saddam Khalifa Haftar. Al-Shibani, accompanied by
00:02:29and including the head of the General Intelligence Agency, discussed ways to
00:02:33enhance cooperation on issues of mutual interest
00:02:36and the opening of a Syrian consulate in Benghazi, in addition to
00:02:40a number of joint security files between
00:02:43the two sides. He also followed up on the situation of missing Syrian citizens in
00:02:47Libya, according to a statement from the Ministry
00:02:49of Foreign
00:02:58Affairs. Regarding this topic, I welcome
00:03:01Dr. Ahmed Al-Hawas, a political writer, directly from Damascus. Welcome.
00:03:05And I welcome Dr. Jibril Al-Obeidi,
00:03:08a writer and academic, directly from Benghazi. Welcome to both of you.
00:03:13How do we interpret the opening of this I will start with you, Dr. Ahmed. So, after Tripoli and the opening of the Syrian Embassy
00:03:17there, Minister
00:03:20to the file of missing persons. Missing persons from Asaad Al-Shibani went to Benghazi. What is being
00:03:23the keys to this discussed now through both sides, Madam, not from this visit? What is Damascus
00:03:27There is no doubt that this looking for through this visit?
00:03:31Greetings to you and your esteemed guest. We know that
00:03:35on August 30th last year, Syrian
00:03:38Foreign Minister Asaad Al-Shibani was in Tripoli
00:03:41and inaugurated the Syrian Embassy after a closure
00:03:45that lasted for about 14 years. Today, when
00:03:48we see Al-Shibani in Benghazi, there is also the Syrian
00:03:52Consulate in Benghazi that can resume work. There are a number
00:03:56of files, I mean, the Syrian news agency talked
00:03:59about them, and what emerged from them is that
00:04:02there is bilateral
00:04:05Al-Shibani's presence in Benghazi cooperation between the two countries file? and the opening of the consulate in Benghazi,
00:04:08in addition to the file of missing Syrians in Libya. I mean, as
00:04:11you know, there was a large number of Syrians in Libya
00:04:15since the era of Gaddafi's
00:04:17who participated or were involved regime, and Syrians used to go to Libya for several
00:04:20reasons, including, I mean, the nature of the Libyan people, and there were no
00:04:24complications in visas or
00:04:26in Benghazi, and that Benghazi was with residency, and Syrians were treated like Libyan citizens
00:04:30for long periods. This led to the presence of a large
00:04:34number of Syrians in Libya. We know the conflict that
00:04:38occurred between the East
00:04:40also understandings in and the West in Libya, and now there is a government of national
00:04:43unity, and there is a kind of understanding
00:04:47between the East in Benghazi and the West in Tripoli.
00:04:52was present in Tripoli. This Syria does not want to be, and the Libyan security forces for example, between
00:04:54two sides, but rather deals with the Libyan state as one state,
00:04:58and Libya is a large country that owns the longest coastlines on
00:05:02the Mediterranean, owns oil and great potential,
00:05:06in addition to the existence of Syrian-Libyan joint companies and institutions
00:05:09for a long time, and perhaps
00:05:12the revolution in both countries, I mean, has stopped the interaction
00:05:15between them. As you know, there are companies in transportation,
00:05:19companies in agriculture, many companies that were under
00:05:22the name of the Libyan-Syrian Company. Yes.
00:05:26So, Dr. Jibril, how can this visit of the Syrian
00:05:29Foreign Minister to Benghazi be read at
00:05:33time, and what does this visit gain through
00:05:37the files that were discussed?
00:05:38Good evening to you and your guest
00:05:41and to the
00:05:44dear viewers. In my opinion, the visit is important
00:05:48and at a very appropriate time to correct
00:05:51the concepts that have been distorted
00:05:55or demonized by some parties. So, now
00:06:00the political side to be at an important time
00:06:05measures and understandings
00:06:07the region. Al-Shibani in Benghazi, so
00:06:11Al-Shibani is among his people. And in his second country.
00:06:14Al-Shibani is not in Tel Aviv, Al-Shibani is in Benghazi. So, it is an Arab
00:06:18country that has strong and long-standing relations with Syria.
00:06:21The consulate that is intended to be reopened today in
00:06:25Benghazi has been there for dozens
00:06:28of years and operating. As you know, the largest community in Benghazi
00:06:32is the Syrian community. So, Syria had
00:06:35a popular and political presence in Libya, regardless
00:06:38of the political systems. So,
00:06:43Libyan-Syrian relations
00:06:46history and are not born of a regime, but rather are born
00:06:50of the convergence of peoples. So, in my opinion, Al-Shibani's arrival in
00:06:53Benghazi is a step of organizational
00:06:56organization of relations that have historical
00:07:00roots. This
00:07:04the files that are considered stalled or that have been
00:07:07distorted, such as the security file, some
00:07:11other economic files. So,
00:07:14I think Al-Shibani's arrival in
00:07:18parties, especially now that the new Syria does not want
00:07:21to be part of the international polarization.
00:07:25So, we are facing a new Syria, which I
00:07:28see as promising good. So, in my opinion,
00:07:31the Syrian Foreign Ministry does not want to be
00:07:35a party to the political fragmentation in any country, especially Libya. It wants to
00:07:39be with all parties around one table.
00:07:42So, Al-Shibani's arrival in Tripoli and then in Benghazi
00:07:46is a clear message that the new Syrian
00:07:49Republic wants to be with Libya and not with political
00:07:53fragmentation. So, this, in my opinion, is a clear message to anyone who tries
00:07:56to distort such visits. He met the commander,
00:07:59the deputy commander of the army, who is General
00:08:02Saddam. This is a positive step. He will meet with some important
00:08:06officials in the government in Benghazi. So, I think these
00:08:10procedures will lead us towards rapprochement and understanding.
00:08:14Listening, as they say, listening is half
00:08:18the solution, and Al-Shibani is now in Benghazi listening to the Libyan
00:08:21side. So, this is half the solution. But
00:08:24Dr. Ahmed, what is remarkable about this visit
00:08:28is also the participation of the head of the Syrian General Intelligence Agency
00:08:31in this visit. What does
00:08:35that indicate, and what are the files that were discussed
00:08:38through what was published about the meetings
00:08:41and joint security files between the two sides?
00:08:44I mean,
00:08:47in fact, there are a number of messages, whether by the reception
00:08:50of General Saddam Haftar of the Syrian
00:08:54Foreign Minister, meaning that relations
00:08:57are very normal, and he said that he supports Syria's stability
00:09:01and appreciates Syria's efforts in its
00:09:04surroundings as well, and not only
00:09:07internally. But when we find that the head of Syrian Intelligence
00:09:11accompanies the Foreign Minister on this
00:09:14visit, there are a number of security
00:09:17files that can be reviewed between the two teams
00:09:20and the two parties. I mean, as you know, there is talk about
00:09:24missing Syrians. There is talk, perhaps, about Syrians
00:09:29in the Libyan conflict. I mean, there are
00:09:33perhaps many files, in addition to the fact
00:09:36that Syria is fighting ISIS,
00:09:39and Libya in this region has also
00:09:43made great efforts to uproot ISIS. So, we are
00:09:46talking about joint files between the two countries,
00:09:50and therefore, we saw the visit of the Syrian
00:09:53Intelligence Chief with the Foreign Minister to
00:09:57Benghazi. I think the security file is very important, and I think
00:10:00that establishing normal relations with Libya
00:10:03as a whole, as we said from the beginning, is
00:10:07a message that Syrian-Libyan relations
00:10:10are normal. Syria
00:10:14I mean, why exactly were these files discussed? What can
00:10:18be achieved in Benghazi that was not
00:10:21dealt with and discussed perhaps through the National
00:10:25Unity Government in
00:10:27Tripoli?
00:10:30No, in the visit on August 30th
00:10:33to Tripoli, there were a number of major files
00:10:37that were discussed between the two countries and resulted
00:10:40in the opening of the Syrian Embassy in Tripoli.
00:10:43However, when we talk about Benghazi, Benghazi is considered the second
00:10:46largest city in Libya. I mean, Libya historically is divided into
00:10:50three regions. I mean, we are talking about Barqa, Fezzan,
00:10:53and Tripoli, and these three regions were unified at the Gharyan
00:10:57Conference in 1920.
00:10:59So, it is not possible to talk about I mean, about
00:11:02Benghazi as a major city. No, it is a major city, and it
00:11:06is the capital of eastern Libya, and it is the one that
00:11:09witnessed major events that could have caused
00:11:12the Libyan state to disintegrate or to be reunified.
00:11:16And therefore, there are no doubt major files existing between
00:11:19Syria and Libya, perhaps the secret word
00:11:23for them is in Benghazi. Okay.
00:11:26How is that viewed in Benghazi, Dr. Jibril, through
00:11:30through these files that have been discussed, which
00:11:33will be the subject of discussion between Damascus
00:11:36and Benghazi, the joint security files between
00:11:38the two countries?
00:11:41Yes, let me add, I mean, and be more
00:11:45politically realistic. Benghazi
00:11:48now represents the command of the Libyan army or the return
00:11:51of the Libyan army to work. This is a fact that no one
00:11:55can deny. So, the striking security force is in
00:11:58Benghazi currently, regardless of the political disagreement in Tripoli.
00:12:02But as you know, Tripoli's security situation
00:12:05is fragile. Many armed groups.
00:12:09The security situation is not stable in Tripoli, and this is a fact
00:12:12that I am not fabricating,
00:12:16about it. So, the security
00:12:19file, if all regional countries
00:12:22and neighboring countries or those with security ties
00:12:25always discuss the security file with Benghazi
00:12:29because the army command is in Benghazi, and therefore, it is
00:12:32politically logical to discuss such
00:12:35strong files with those who
00:12:38hold the decision. Secondly, the Libyan army now controls
00:12:45natural, logical, and rational to discuss
00:12:48these files with the real party concerned
00:12:51and not the party - I don't want to describe it as
00:12:55illusory - but the party that does not have the full
00:12:58ability to discuss them or decide on them. This is on one side, on
00:13:02the other side.
00:13:05The one who fought ISIS, or what is called the Islamic
00:13:09State, is the army command in Benghazi.
00:13:12And therefore,
00:13:16these stalled
00:13:18files...
00:13:31to talk about the file of missing persons, which was mentioned during
00:13:35this visit specifically.
00:13:38file in Benghazi, and how can real
00:13:41and clear commitments be reached from the Libyan side? Can
00:13:45we really find
00:13:48file?
00:13:52file is a humanitarian file and a tragedy,
00:13:56or one of the tragedies of Syrians.
00:13:59And these were perhaps large numbers that were not
00:14:03declared by the Syrian state, but one can refer to many statements
00:14:07that there were large numbers of Syrians who went missing
00:14:10during the Syrian revolution and during the conflict between
00:14:14the East and the West. And therefore, there was
00:14:17also an accusation directed at Syrians that
00:14:20these people came to fight
00:14:23under the Libyan government. Many things,
00:14:27unfortunately, can be discussed,
00:14:30and what Syrians have been exposed to. Today, there is
00:14:34a new page in Libyan-Syrian relations and a new page
00:14:38in the Libyan interior. Let's be
00:14:41more frank. It is true that there is a large
00:14:45military weight in Benghazi, but there is
00:14:48also a political weight in
00:14:52Tripoli. So, Syria, when it went to
00:14:56the Libyan government and completed a set
00:14:59of political and economic understandings,
00:15:02now there are
00:15:05the security file. And the security file can be divided
00:15:08into two sections: one concerns the missing Syrians, and this falls on
00:15:12the Libyan state and also on the Libyan army
00:15:17to clarify their status, where
00:15:20they went missing, whether they were killed. I mean, all these matters
00:15:24must be clear. And the file, I mean, the second part of
00:15:27the security file, you know that many of the leaders of ISIS
00:15:31were from North Africa and from Libya specifically. So, I think
00:15:35that the Syrian state has important files in this
00:15:40and there can be fruitful
00:15:43cooperation between the Syrian
00:15:46state and Libya. To what extent, in your opinion, Dr.
00:15:50Ahmed, can these security files be a fundamental
00:15:53entry point for perhaps reshaping
00:15:56relations between the two sides, especially since you say that a new
00:16:00page is opening
00:16:01between the two
00:16:04countries? Yes, I mean, when I told you,
00:16:07we saw that the Minister of Foreign Affairs went to Tripoli
00:16:10and now he is going to Benghazi to open the Syrian
00:16:14Consulate in Benghazi and meet with the Deputy Commander
00:16:17of the Libyan Army. All these and the files they discussed
00:16:20are clear that Syria is moving with a policy of
00:16:24zero problems, and this is attributed to the current Syrian leadership that it does not
00:16:28want problems with its Arab surroundings, it wants
00:16:31good relations and also seeks economic support.
00:16:34I mean, when we also talk about Libya, Libya is a country
00:16:38with a Syrian community and has the potential to reactivate
00:16:41joint institutions and companies, as
00:16:44I mentioned to you. Therefore, it is in the interest
00:16:48of Syrians and also in the interest of Libyans that there are normal
00:16:51relations, even in Libya. And I visited it a quarter of a
00:16:55century ago. I mean, most of the Libyan people, I mean,
00:16:58have respect and love for the Syrian people.
00:17:02And also, they love
00:17:04Syrian industries and Syrian clothes. And Syrian
00:17:08textiles. And there were many I mean, they used to shop
00:17:12from Syria, and there were, as you know, distinguished relations
00:17:16between Syria and Libya. I think that, I mean, currently
00:17:19the Syrian administration is looking to reactivate this relationship
00:17:23and move Syrian-Libyan relations to relations that are
00:17:26I mean, normal and calm, and there are no
00:17:30problems, because after the liberation, or before the liberation, let me
00:17:34tell you that, I mean, the areas of eastern Libya were
00:17:38closer to the former regime in supporting the opposition, unlike
00:17:41Tripoli, which from the beginning, I mean, supported the Syrian
00:17:45revolution and stood with it. However, the Libyan-Libyan
00:17:50the Syrian revolution in general. Okay, from this point,
00:17:53regarding the East and the West in Libya,
00:17:57to what extent can Damascus really maintain
00:18:00a balance between the two parties? To what extent is Damascus
00:18:04really capable of achieving a real
00:18:08and effective balance on the ground through the files that
00:18:12were raised and the joint cooperation between
00:18:13the two parties?
00:18:17I mean, Syrian-Libyan cooperation, I told you, will be in the file of
00:18:20ISIS and missing Syrians, and that there will be normal
00:18:23relations and commercial relations between the two countries.
00:18:27As for Libya in general, as a geopolitical location, Libya,
00:18:30I mean, the conflict there affects
00:18:33its surroundings, and it also affects the European Union,
00:18:37as one of the outlets that can be for immigration,
00:18:41due to its proximity to Italy and its proximity to the European
00:18:44Union in general, in addition to the huge oil
00:18:48reserves it possesses. So, there is no interest in
00:18:51Libya being a chaotic state. At the very least, it should be
00:18:55a stable state, and there are international understandings, as
00:18:58you know, to have an understanding between
00:19:02the East and the West, I mean, between Benghazi and Tripoli,
00:19:05away from the conflict that could
00:19:07erupt again. Libya also needs
00:19:11I mean, I mean, time also to recover
00:19:15and to return as an important
00:19:18and influential state in the region and its surroundings. Yes.
00:19:22Okay. I'll get back to you, Dr. Jibril. We talked about the files
00:19:25that were discussed, and among the discussions
00:19:29that took place was the file of missing persons.
00:19:32What can Benghazi offer at this specific stage
00:19:35regarding this
00:19:40First, let me just say that because the call was cut off
00:19:43and I didn't hear the whole interview, so there might have been
00:19:46a conversation that I didn't hear, so I'm obliged to respond to it.
00:19:50But in the end, I heard your guest, with all due respect
00:19:53to his point of view, but he mentioned incorrect
00:19:57information when he said that the support for the Syrian
00:20:00revolution was in Tripoli and not
00:20:04the Syrian regime. This is not correct. This is absolutely incorrect.
00:20:08He can review 2011 and what was
00:20:11happening in Benghazi. The Syrian revolution's media was present in Benghazi from the early
00:20:14days. So, correcting the information historically,
00:20:18Benghazi did not support any regime from the regimes that fought
00:20:21Syria, regardless of the political situation in Libya.
00:20:24So, support for the Syrian revolution was present in Benghazi before it
00:20:30is a correction, and one can refer to television
00:20:33memory, which testifies to that a lot. So, in my opinion,
00:20:37this is a correction of incorrect information. Secondly,
00:20:40yes, no, the information is incorrect, and it needed correction,
00:20:43given that later, later...
00:20:47Saudi Arabia.
00:20:57No, please, please, Mr.
00:21:00Benghazi, Benghazi was the one
00:21:04that triggered, Mr. Jibril, Benghazi was the one
00:21:07that triggered the February 17 revolution, and it was the one that stood with Syrians,
00:21:11and it was the one that raised the Syrian flags. I am talking about
00:21:14a stage in the Libyan-Libyan conflict.
00:21:17This is what I was talking about. I wasn't talking about...
00:21:30At one stage, it was viewed that, for example, Haftar's leadership was closer to the Syrian regime, while Tripoli's
00:21:34leadership was closer to the revolution, and this harmed
00:21:37the Syrian revolution. This is what I said. No, no, let me correct
00:21:41the concepts, let me correct the concepts.
00:21:45If we want to judge a stage, we judge it at its time,
00:21:48and the circumstances surrounding it in this way.
00:21:52If you want to talk about this specific point, at one stage,
00:21:56the rapprochement
00:21:58with a certain regime or authority...
00:22:00Yes.
00:22:17at that time, when the conflict and the war on terrorism
00:22:21happened, I mean, I don't know if my voice is clear or disappeared. I hear you, I hear you well, I hear you well.
00:22:24At that stage,
00:22:28Syrian groups fought the Libyan army, and therefore there was
00:22:31a reaction from the Libyan army to these
00:22:34groups. If we want
00:22:53were discussed regarding this file, the file of missing persons.
00:22:57I had asked you about the extent to which there is indeed a possibility and
00:23:01what Benghazi can offer
00:23:04file. Madam, but let me
00:23:08please don't restrict my opinion. Let me clarify
00:23:11to your esteemed guest that judging a stage without its surrounding
00:23:15circumstances, this is a point that must be judged in its surrounding
00:23:27about the most important files now. We are talking about this visit.
00:23:31To what extent will this visit actually have a positive impact on the files that
00:23:35were discussed? What are the files that will also be
00:23:38expanded upon later through this
00:23:41visit, Dr. Jibril? Many files,
00:23:44primarily the security file, and the presence of some
00:23:48Syrians in Tripoli, yes, under an armed pretext, and therefore
00:23:52this file must be dismantled. I mean, to whom do these people belong? Do they belong
00:23:56to the ruling authority in Syria or do they belong to another party, and they
00:23:59are still present under the term, in quotation
00:24:02marks, training forces or special training forces?
00:24:06This is among the files, in addition
00:24:11the Syrian side only. There are Libyans missing in
00:24:15Syria, there are Syrians missing in Libya. So, the
00:24:19missing persons from both sides. Such
00:24:22files are resolved through security understandings. The presence of the Syrian
00:24:25intelligence chief, the presence of the Libyan intelligence chief, and the understanding
00:24:29at one table can unravel
00:24:31and decipher these
00:24:35missing persons. I mean, who are they and how did they go missing?
00:24:38I mean, not only are there missing persons, therefore, in light of this
00:24:42meeting between the head of the Syrian intelligence agency or even the Libyan one, in light of that, can we
00:24:46expect intelligence cooperation
00:24:48in the coming phase between the two sides? I believe,
00:24:52I believe,
00:24:55is a very important step. Listening, as I told you at the beginning,
00:24:59listening is half the solution. Listening
00:25:03is half the solution. Al-Shibani's presence in Benghazi, the direct meeting, the direct
00:25:06dialogue, is the right path, away from
00:25:10distortion, away from demonizing parties.
00:25:14Al-Shibani and the Libyan army leaders, and the Libyan intelligence
00:25:17chief, and the army command, and the government in Benghazi, can cooperate directly
00:25:20in direct meetings. As for
00:25:23meetings through intermediaries, interpretation
00:25:27always distorts the text. Translation distorts the text.
00:25:30So, direct meeting is the most effective way for understanding.
00:25:34Al-Shibani's presence in Benghazi is a positive step, in my opinion,
00:25:37to resolve many files and to achieve
00:25:41significant rapprochement, especially since there is
00:25:44no historical animosity, there is
00:25:48no blood feud.
00:25:51And therefore, it was one of the most successful relationships, regardless of the governments. I am not talking about political governments, I am talking about relations between the two peoples. So, in my opinion,
00:25:55these files will be resolved if the two parties sit down
00:25:58correctly, as is happening today, from their sitting in Benghazi, tomorrow they will
00:26:01sit in Damascus,
00:26:08and so on. Given the Libyan division, Dr. Ahmed, how can
00:26:12there be a balance in the course
00:26:15of relations and the files that were presented?
00:26:19I mean, first of all, we
00:26:22I mean, when we talk about Al-Shibani's visit to Libya,
00:26:25he undoubtedly visited the legitimate government, which is
00:26:28internationally recognized, in Tripoli, and now when he heads
00:26:33to Benghazi, he is still within the Libyan state,
00:26:37meaning that he did not go to another country, and there is
00:26:41no, for example, obstacle to Syria opening
00:26:44a consulate in Benghazi in agreement with the central
00:26:47government in Tripoli. However, this visit
00:26:51also, I mean,
00:26:54perhaps opened many files, including the meeting
00:26:58with Saddam Haftar, the meeting of the Syrian intelligence chief
00:27:01also with the Libyan intelligence chief or the military
00:27:04leadership stationed in Benghazi. This
00:27:07means that Libyan-Syrian relations, there are now
00:27:11files that will be opened and
00:27:14discussed by both sides, and that Syrian-Libyan
00:27:17relations are moving towards the normalization
00:27:20of relations, and these good relations
00:27:24will undoubtedly serve the interests of the two brotherly
00:27:26peoples. We are not dealing here with East and West or Benghazi
00:27:30and Tripoli, but rather we are dealing with Libya as one country. However, to what extent can Damascus
00:27:34succeed in achieving a balance between the two parties,
00:27:38whether Tripoli or Benghazi?
00:27:41This is not Damascus's mission at all. I mean,
00:27:45to create a state of balance between, for example,
00:27:48Benghazi and Tripoli. I told you, states deal
00:27:52as states. I mean, the Syrian state now deals with the Libyan
00:27:55state. But it is also in Syria's
00:27:58interest to have a consulate in Benghazi. Libya
00:28:02is a very vast country, and there is a huge
00:28:05number of people in the eastern Libyan region.
00:28:09I mean, we are talking about Al-Bayda, Derna, and Benghazi,
00:28:12and Tobruk, and all these major cities that have
00:28:15many Syrians who are not, I mean,
00:28:19from only a few years ago. They have been coming to Libya
00:28:22for perhaps more than 30 or 40
00:28:25years. Syrians have been arriving in Libya
00:28:29and residing there with various interests,
00:28:33and there are, I mean, Syrian families who have become
00:28:36closer to Libyans in terms of intermarriage and living
00:28:39and all these matters. And it is
00:28:42the duty of the Syrian state to follow up on the interests
00:28:45of its citizens everywhere and to follow up on the circumstances
00:28:49as well.
00:28:52الامور ومن واجب الدوله
00:28:55السوريه ان تتابع مصلحه ابنائها في كل مكان
00:28:58These people need
00:29:02official documents, passports, all of this they need
00:29:06if we talk about travel between Tripoli and
00:29:09Benghazi, this means a long journey that requires 1500
00:29:13km, so how can a citizen travel in these
00:29:16known conditions in Libya? What alleviates the suffering of the Syrian
00:29:20citizen is the opening of a Syrian consulate in Benghazi. Thank you very much,
00:29:24Dr. Ahmed Al-Hawas, political writer, you were with us
00:29:28from Damascus. Thank you very much. Thanks also to Dr.
00:29:31Jibril Al-Obeidi, writer and academic who was with us from Benghazi.
00:29:34Thank you very much to both of you.
00:29:37After the break, we will discuss who is responsible for the arrival of poor
00:29:41quality gasoline to the markets.
00:29:53We are sitting inside and they are crying over him, by God,
00:29:57we hear the pain of the bones that are
00:29:59breaking. God
00:30:07Every blanket I smell makes me feel that there is blood mixed
00:30:11with the smell of the Bashar
00:30:15when they called us to torture, actually I didn't know if you would come back alive or dead
00:30:19.
00:30:26I remember hearing the old man clicking
00:30:27his head.
00:30:32The soul that is tortured is the one that does not go away.
00:30:53The news is not a trivial detail, but a moment that deserves
00:30:57understanding. And in the world.