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00:00:07high politics is nothing but common sense applied to great things, said
00:00:11Napoleon Bonaparte, and here ladies
00:00:13and gentlemen, all's well that ends well, we have reached the
00:00:17end of the first part of focus dedicated to the
00:00:20great figures of the Republic, for this evening
00:00:23dear viewers, I say to all of you
00:00:27thank you from the bottom of my heart for your loyalty to the show.
00:00:31And see you next week if you wish and again
00:00:34ciao ciao,
00:00:38proof that there is ladies and gentlemen, here is the focus schedule, how do you see the conflict, is it
00:00:42finally a conflict between two men who tried to
00:00:45work together, one of whom the other betrayed, or is it a
00:00:49conflict of vision of how the country
00:00:52should be managed, or is it a conflict between two powers, France
00:00:56and the United States, we mentioned it a moment ago, I think we must be very careful about the interpretation
00:01:00that it is a conflict of two powers, and for a simple
00:01:03reason, it is that indeed there are divergent economic interests, it is obvious that the
00:01:06interests are not those of Chevron, but in my opinion this is not
00:01:10the explanation, because beyond a certain level of
00:01:14violence and danger of destabilization of a region of the
00:01:17world, great powers no longer fight, we have seen it almost everywhere in the
00:01:20world, but they arm, they arm but through
00:01:24intermediaries, they do not arm directly, I think that here it is
00:01:27a fundamental problem which is the problem of the whole of Central Africa, that is to say that
00:01:31when a democratically elected president
00:01:34refuses to stand for an election under
00:01:38normal conditions, which happened in Congo, and
00:01:41arranges for his competitors not to be able to
00:01:44stand, necessarily the conflict is in
00:01:47sight. I warn you about the situation in
00:01:50Cameroon which has just experienced an extraordinarily contested election and which is
00:01:53also on the brink of civil war, so you tell us on one side there is a democrat, on the other side there is
00:01:57a dictator, that's not at all what I said uh. I think that there are
00:02:01democratic rules that France has strongly pushed, remember the
00:02:04speech of La Baule, and these democratic rules must be respected, there
00:02:08are electoral deadlines and there
00:02:10is electoral competition, especially for the presidential election, from the
00:02:14moment the incumbent president prevents the election from
00:02:17taking place normally and that he seeks to have his competitors assassinated, which
00:02:21happened for Sasun Guesso, let's not forget that tanks presented
00:02:25themselves in front of his personal private
00:02:28residence on June 5th and that the... started from there because he defended
00:02:31himself and well at that moment necessarily civil
00:02:34war breaks out and it is not an ethnic war
00:02:38focus focus.
00:03:22you have any regrets in front
00:04:42Mr. President, hello, hello, hello,
00:04:46hello,
00:04:48ah, how are you doing, it's good, in any case it's a great joy
00:04:52for us, to come to the field, to
00:04:56meet you, because the show Eston Agricole
00:04:59has the mission. to highlight the work of farmers,
00:05:03you have been in the field of agriculture for several years
00:05:06and you uh you are cultivating
00:05:09it's the editor of cassava, in any case it's a
00:05:12joy for us to come to the field uh to see you in the field
00:05:16and certainly we have questions to ask you about the work you
00:05:20are doing already from the outset I would like to
00:05:23congratulate you because uh we feel the work, we see
00:05:27the work and it's a great joy, so what do we call
00:05:30you Mr. President? I am myself,
00:05:33I am called Messian Anisser, I am the president of the
00:05:36multi-service agriculture
00:05:39cooperative, yes, we are the people on the ground
00:05:43uh we have been based here since
00:05:452009, so it's
00:05:51evolution that we are making efforts
00:05:54with our own uh
00:05:58means, we are making efforts anyway, that's what you
00:06:01saw here, so you are in a cooperative of how many
00:06:04members, we are 10 members and here you have a
00:06:08field of how many hectares of cassava besides
00:06:12other fields too, this is a field that we
00:06:15are focusing more on, this is it, here it's 50
00:06:18hectares, 50 hectares, 50 hectares of, yes, 4 months old,
00:06:22it's 4 months old already, we just planted it
00:06:26there, we are also doing the first weeding, so we put the
00:06:29cassava, so it's a bit associated,
00:06:33you also saw some watermelons and also
00:06:36sweet potatoes, yes, that's it, I'm noticing
00:06:40that it's evolving well because
00:06:43it's 4 months old, but when you see the greenery,
00:06:46it really gives the impression that it's a job well
00:06:50done, it's a job done with know-how,
00:06:52yes, that's it, so that you succeed
00:06:55like this in 4 months, so it means there are secrets,
00:06:59there are secrets that we know, we technicians,
00:07:01yes, we as people who are good
00:07:05at it, we have been based here for a long time, so
00:07:09first it's the preparation of the land, the first secret.
00:07:12You have to plow and leave it for at least 3
00:07:16months, you see, the soil must be well
00:07:20prepared before doing the first
00:07:23plowing, that's it, if you do
00:07:27that, you leave the plowing for at least 3 months, you will see
00:07:31everything you put without even counting first
00:07:34or or fertilizers or whatever for that, we don't use it,
00:07:38you don't use it for long, no no that's natural, that's naturally like that
00:07:42and the secret is to respect the agricultural
00:07:46calendar
00:07:48also the dates you are going to plant
00:07:52it, yes, regarding our cycles because if you plant too
00:07:56much rain, it's not good either,
00:08:00also during the season,
00:08:02you always have to, so agriculture is about
00:08:05dates, you can't miss dates and there you have the calendar and
00:08:09that's what shocks us compared to our old ways.
00:08:13So it really sometimes disturbs us about
00:08:16that, otherwise, in agriculture, you can't miss dates, the dates are well
00:08:20calculated, how many years have you been in
00:08:23this work, we have been based since
00:08:262009, our cooperative, yes,
00:08:30yes, well, before it was individual, but since
00:08:33we've been a cooperative for almost 4 years,
00:08:36otherwise, before it was me who was
00:08:40doing it with your group, with my group, yes. Since you were there, we
00:08:43were forced now to change the group, it
00:08:47became like an establishment, it changed,
00:08:50it became a cooperative, that's it, so besides this
00:08:5450-hectare field where the cassava is growing
00:08:58well, you have other fields, there are other fields,
00:09:01that's right, there are fields where it's mature, there are fields where it will soon be
00:09:05mature, so we always do uh by
00:09:08year we have cycles, cycles, yes, the big
00:09:12cycle and the small cycle, but there, you have at least how many
00:09:15hectares, the two other sites there, there, there are at least 20
00:09:19hectares in maturity, maturity, yes,
00:09:21yes,
00:09:23and there are still at least 15 more hectares that
00:09:27will be mature soon, so that's how it is, this is
00:09:30the last cycle of the year that just ended, now we are still
00:09:34preparing the plowing, the first cycle is
00:09:37after the big holidays, that's it, so that means
00:09:41that you can... uh have almost 100
00:09:45hectares of cassava, yes, yes, if you have the means
00:09:49because plowing is contacting, planting, all that takes
00:09:53time, well that's maybe to help the cooperatives that have just been
00:09:56created, we the old ones in principle, we are first
00:10:00helping ourselves to have materials, we have good
00:10:03materials, we are multi- service because we
00:10:06train agricultural drivers, we train agricultural machine
00:10:10mechanics in our workshop there. How do you get
00:10:13tractors because here 10 hectares renting
00:10:17tractors is not easy, but how do you do the work related
00:10:21to plowing and harrowing, how do you do the work related to plowing and harrowing? We
00:10:25have our old old tractors, that's what we repair every time
00:10:28if often it breaks down in the middle of
00:10:31plowing, well really as if we are also technicians,
00:10:35we always force ourselves, in any case it's not easy,
00:10:39when you see, well, compared to the cycle if it doesn't respond, we are forced to
00:10:42rent, otherwise we really struggle to get our
00:10:46old machines in working order to do that, you see, it's
00:10:49plowed, pulverized and repulverized again,
00:10:53it's clean, isn't it, that's it, so are you 10, is
00:10:57uh with the number you are, is it easy for you to
00:11:00do the plowing and all that, you have a lot of sites, how do you do it, do you look for
00:11:04outside labor to do this work, we ask for cooperative
00:11:08reinforcement, as we are cooperatives in union,
00:11:12we can also ask for reinforcements from other
00:11:15cooperatives and when they come, it's still something
00:11:19to pay for, yes, if you always have to pay, there are always quotes that
00:11:23we have to pay them per hour,
00:11:25they are there, that's how it is, so you still have some money at your
00:11:28level, you have savings, you have a bank account, yes,
00:11:32but yes, there is, but we try, that's
00:11:35it, the proofs are there, but all that and then it's the sale,
00:11:39yes, even though it's the elephants you saw there, they are
00:11:43threatening us here, the empty spaces, the empty spaces that you see are the
00:11:46elephants, the elephants that are trampling, sometimes it's boars,
00:11:49sometimes it's you see, you saw the
00:11:52distance where the tar was left.
00:11:55here it's sometimes the boars that bother us, they
00:11:58enter the fields, so you see for example there are
00:12:02empty spaces, there are some empty spaces, so that's a bit it, you saw there
00:12:06were empty spaces, we have to replace them again, you see
00:12:10but I'm seeing the work you're doing, it's with
00:12:14a certain experience, you respect the spacing and
00:12:17you respect the lines, yes, we with our old
00:12:21machine, we have adapted, we have adapted
00:12:24teams. simply to do the tracing for us
00:12:28to respect the lines that you see, you see, when you look at the
00:12:31mark, it's now you feel that it was traced, yes, it's traced what
00:12:35you see and then the spacing is respected, that's
00:12:38it, that's it, so we are experts
00:12:42like that, we are trained, if there are Congolese who want to perhaps be inspired
00:12:45by your experience, if they want to come
00:12:49to you so that you show them what
00:12:53you are doing, you show them the techniques needed
00:12:57to cultivate, are you able to receive these
00:13:01Congolese who also want to learn and get involved in such
00:13:04activities as you? yes, why not? right
00:13:08where we are based, there is a large workshop for
00:13:12agricultural machinery, yes, except that
00:13:14the people here don't give much, otherwise I
00:13:18am the master, I am the master of the workshop too, I am also the president of the
00:13:22cooperative, so there is a need for people, if there are people who are interested,
00:13:25they come to us, it's multi- service, that's why, yes,
00:13:29that's it,
00:13:33that's it,
00:13:38when you are in such
00:13:41a cooperative and given the cassava fields you
00:13:44have, do
00:13:47of a state official, can you have regrets in front of a state official?
00:13:51No, well, uh, regrets because he treats
00:13:55yes, but we, we can't envy him because
00:13:58we want to do a lot, you didn't start like that,
00:14:02there's evolution, yes, so we
00:14:06see that it really needs us to really, if we
00:14:10put our hand to it, we will do more than that, it's mostly about
00:14:14machines, yes, machines, materials, that's it, you
00:14:17will see later in the workshop that there are old materials that
00:14:21date back to the 50 hectares, there is no loss, you have
00:14:25succeeded, in any case the cassava is developing
00:14:29without problems, so you will sell 50 hectares,
00:14:31yes, it's a lot of money,
00:14:34that's it, it's a bit that, we'll see, we'll see the
00:14:38expenses but
00:14:38it's
00:14:43not, you see here you are also fighting against youth unemployment
00:14:47because you are not alone, we need
00:14:50labor, so these are also jobs that you create
00:14:54there, yes, the young people who are based
00:14:58there in the village, sometimes we take them too, they come to reinforce us
00:15:01here like that, yes, we do daily work systems,
00:15:05we pay, so it's something like that, sometimes we take our pickup and we
00:15:09put the young people, we come on site, we work, then we pay them, that's
00:15:12how we manage, really, that's
00:15:15very, very important and uh what variety are you
00:15:19using here? Here we have the variety called
00:15:23Violette, that's it, which is the most consumed
00:15:27in our area, all varieties have problems, except what
00:15:30I said before, it's knowing when, at
00:15:34what date you should plant them so that they
00:15:38give good quality like that, even him when I saw him
00:15:41there, if it wasn't in his period, it's not if it's not the dates
00:15:45that we can plant it, if you plant it, it will always come out with mosaic
00:15:49with a lot of stuff, that's it, so you master this variety well,
00:15:53yes, if we don't master only that, all
00:15:56varieties, yes, you always have to know when,
00:15:59yes, when we can put it, that's it, I already see
00:16:03furrows like that, what is that? It's already giving roots, that means the
00:16:07roots it's putting down there are already yes, it's already
00:16:11cassava, yes, yes, yes, you can
00:16:14even see there when you see roots like that, it means
00:16:18that you see, you see, that means
00:16:21that this is already cassava, you see, this is already cassava, in 4
00:16:24months, you see already, yes, when you saw it, it's
00:16:28already cracking the soil, look, look at the
00:16:31size at 4 months, that's it,
00:16:35the tubers, tubers, it's already
00:16:38giving tubers, yes, yes, it has tubers underneath already, yes, that's
00:16:42it
00:16:44but for it to reach maturity, how many months do you have to wait? Well,
00:16:47uh, maturity is normally 18 months, it's 18 months, well,
00:16:51for people who are going to make fufu, yes,
00:16:55other things, but for us, we often supply
00:16:58mothers who make cassava, so we do it from 16
00:17:01months, we already start harvesting before
00:17:05the products we make from cassava, yes, it must not be too old,
00:17:08uh, you see, yes, yes, so the real date is from
00:17:1215, 16 months, it's good when you feel it's
00:17:16soft, it's deep, if it's fufu, fufu doesn't
00:17:20care, even if the cassava becomes hard, it will always
00:17:23dry, it will give, what are the problems that
00:17:27bother you here? often it's climate
00:17:31change on the field, you see how we weeded there, when the rain comes,
00:17:35there's always a lot of variety of weeds, you see how it's growing
00:17:38already, there was nothing before, yes, when
00:17:42we noticed there were a lot of weeds in our fields
00:17:46here, that's when we see that flowers
00:17:49have come out, otherwise before there were none, it gives us a lot of
00:17:53difficulties here, before someone knew that if you plant like
00:17:57that, you do the first weeding, the second weeding, it's finished,
00:18:00then with the flowers, you have to start again, when you come
00:18:04to look at your fields,
00:18:07you see that it's not yet mature, there are flowers,
00:18:11what are we going to do, we are forced to put more
00:18:15people,
00:18:16next door, it's a block that we
00:18:20just harvested, there were 20 hectares there,
00:18:23but really the elephants, they ate even 10 hectares, before there
00:18:27was no trace of elephants, but this
00:18:29last time, we are surprised, we don't know where these
00:18:33elephants come from, as if it's related to a regulation that we can...
00:18:36disturb them, so that's it,
00:18:40so I was expecting you
00:18:44uh what are you going to advise us so that you saw
00:18:47how they are doing but you know you are doing intercropping,
00:18:51that's it, yes, the intercropping, the
00:18:55intercropping, a field like that, we can't leave it empty like that just
00:18:58to wait for the cassava because the cassava needs 18 months there,
00:19:02but if it can help us, you see, like the steps there,
00:19:06it's coming out, we're going to grow yes, there, for example, we
00:19:09did it on 10 hectares only, 10 hectares, yes, 10
00:19:13hectares there, it can give us at least uh well
00:19:17not tons, uh the bis you
00:19:20saw there, right? yes, it can give us about
00:19:23five, about five, six
00:19:26bits well loaded, yes, that's it, it's still
00:19:30profitable, isn't it, it's profitable anyway, yes, it helps
00:19:33us, that's what we say in the Mab 0 operations to reinforce.
00:19:37also yes,
00:19:40that's it, here we need to pay the labor that
00:19:43worked, so it's always
00:19:45that,
00:19:49the Minister of Agriculture would like you to produce a lot because cassava is still
00:19:52sold expensive in Brazzaville, so what do you say, do you have the
00:19:56capacity to increase cassava production
00:20:00even more? You saw the land, right?
00:20:03That's it, we are based here, this is our
00:20:06base. If there are possibilities for materials,
00:20:10we will do even more, that's it, if we reinforce
00:20:14machines, we ourselves
00:20:17will work more than that, the president spoke of agricultural
00:20:20mechanization, I think that regarding machines, your wish
00:20:24will be taken into account by the government and that's what we
00:20:27expect, that encourages
00:20:28us
00:20:33in any case it's a great joy, thank you very much for our team, thank you.
00:20:38Uh thank you very much, and there are still watermelons, yes, yes, yes, we are
00:20:42consuming, yes, we are consuming what we made ourselves, yes, yes,
00:20:46the show, so that's it, it's a joy,
00:20:50really, we really thank you and good luck,
00:20:54we often associate corn too, it's because it was the period, it wasn't the period,
00:20:58otherwise you will see corn, yes, there are old
00:21:01photos that we can show you too, you will see how we associate
00:21:05corn too in the cassava, this is
00:21:08you are in organic farming, right, you don't use fertilizers, no, no, no, this is organic, this is
00:21:12organic, ah, this is organic, the secret is just to
00:21:16plow, leave it for a little while, that's it,
00:21:20and respect the agricultural calendar, yes, respect the agricultural calendar and you
00:21:23will calculate the dates, what date you will do your
00:21:27planting so that it will not be dominated by rain or
00:21:31it will not be dominated by the sun, that's it,
00:21:34thank you very much, so that's a bit of it, yes, thank
00:21:37you very much, thank you very much, okay, we're together.
00:22:15During our first broadcast with you, you spoke of
00:22:18sites and with. we worked just
00:22:22in one site and here
00:22:25we are in the 2nd site, our second site located
00:22:2815 km from Inuni Plateau village, we
00:22:32have three blocks there planted in June
00:22:36uh intercropping including what you
00:22:39see there, sweet
00:22:42potato, so here we
00:22:45have
00:22:4825 hectares. Okay, we have a block of
00:22:5125 hectares here, so
00:22:55we planted in June uh
00:22:5725 hectares,
00:23:0025 hectares, so I
00:23:03will show you in a moment. Let's go.
00:23:06Here there is a separate
00:23:10block that you see there, it's the
00:23:13separation of a block and this block is
00:23:17associated uh uh cassava
00:23:20tubers and sweet potato, everything you see
00:23:24with the good ones works well, that's why we prefer the
00:23:27good ones, it's 25 25 hectares there, it's 15
00:23:31hectares, 15 hectares of cassava in maturity
00:23:34already, we will start exploiting within 3 weeks
00:23:38or 2 weeks, 25 + 15 makes 40 hectares,
00:23:41yes, 2nd
00:23:43site,
00:23:48you are doing great things,
00:23:52but how do you
00:23:54manage your resources, is there still
00:23:58transparency? is there no problem on this side, how do you
00:24:02do it? because those who watch you also certainly need
00:24:06your experience, regarding
00:24:07management,
00:24:10after the sale, we smile at something,
00:24:13share, the rest, you
00:24:15have to manage the labor because with what we... this house
00:24:19without labor, we cannot succeed, so you have to
00:24:22recruit the little ones and the rest but in
00:24:2650 I will make the little ones
00:24:29we recruit come.
00:26:12what we are doing today, you don't know
00:26:15what our parents were doing yesterday, for them,
00:26:19it was subsistence farming, and we
00:26:22are doing today modern
00:26:26agriculture, there must be mechanization, especially
00:26:29mechanization, mechanization. Without
00:26:33mechanization it's complicated and what we are doing there, you have to go negotiate
00:26:36for tractors, you have to spend a lot of time uh to
00:26:40negotiate so you have to make appointments here and there so it's
00:26:44complicated so we really ask the government to
00:26:47consider especially
00:26:51mechanization. That's my last
00:26:55word.