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00:01:11Hello, how are you? Ukraine, despite having the support of European
00:01:15factories and NATO software, which are also
00:01:18widely integrated into Kiev's
00:01:21war effort, are losing ground against Russia
00:01:25how they were going to be able and on top of that they decide to attack an Iranian vessel in the Caspian
00:01:28Sea. presents this movement to
00:01:31try to amplify the conflict. Today we will analyze
00:01:34these scenarios on the Telesur map, make yourselves comfortable, so
00:01:38let's begin.
00:01:45and what
00:01:48For this reason, we propose to display our map and review key
00:01:51data. What exactly happened with the attack on this Iranian
00:01:55merchant vessel? Let's
00:01:58tougher stance at this moment deploy our world map and identify with the colors of their flag, on one side Ukraine, but on
00:02:02the other side the Islamic Republic of
00:02:05dialoguing, dialogue is Iran. We focus on a date, July 25. Kiev
00:02:07attacked on that date the Iranian merchant ship Ana, anchored about 5
00:02:11km from the mouth of the Volga
00:02:14The Iranian government made it clear River in the Caspian Sea. The impact caused a strong explosion on
00:02:17no less board, causing severe damage to the ship's structure
00:02:20and the death of one sailor and another person who was
00:02:23injured. Ukrainian authorities have claimed
00:02:26that these routes transported military supplies for Russia. However,
00:02:30in a direct call with his Iranian counterpart, Ukraine's foreign
00:02:34minister argued that the specific damage to the
00:02:37commercial vessel was unintentional and the result of an operational
00:02:40error and that Ukraine was not seeking to open a new formal
00:02:44front of war against Iran. Iran's Foreign Minister
00:02:48Abasarachi described this aggression as a criminal and
00:02:51provocative act, as well as a blatant violation of the United
00:02:55Nations Charter, assuring that the vessel was on a purely
00:02:59commercial route, transporting iron and steel,
00:03:03army killed with the although he suspended plans to bomb Ukrainian targets to receive explanations from Iran,
00:03:07he insists, however, on absolute reparations for material
00:03:11and human damages, warning that he will not allow such
00:03:14acts to go unpunished that the government of Tehran
00:03:18maintains its neutrality in the conflict with the Ukrainian
00:03:22crisis, what is behind these movements,
00:03:25will they be casual, today we will
00:03:27analyze it with our guest.
00:03:34We are joined for the analysis from Argentina by Sebastián Salgado,
00:03:37geopolitical analyst. It's a pleasure to have you with us
00:03:40Sebastián, thank you for your time for the Telesur map, how are you?
00:03:43Hello Paola, a pleasure to greet you again
00:03:47and be here on the map. What is behind this
00:03:51attempt to expand a conflict while losing
00:03:55another front to Russia? Does Ukraine's involvement
00:03:58under the conditions of make sense in this war unleashed by the United States and
00:04:02Israel against Iran?
00:04:05Zelensky tries to be, perhaps, to put his
00:04:09government in the place of the country
00:04:12that obeys the mandates
00:04:14elections, not only the and wishes of Donald Trump's government
00:04:18and also the Zionist agenda, that must be taken
00:04:22into account, and they have tried with this attack that
00:04:25puts for the first time in the Caspian Sea
00:04:28the area of influence
00:04:31linking two major conflicts, for the first time, on
00:04:35one hand what is the NATO conflict
00:04:39against the Russian Federation that until now
00:04:42at sea has taken place in the Black Sea, in the Sea of
00:04:46Azov, with that other great conflict
00:04:49where Anglo-Zionism has been attacking the
00:04:52Islamic Republic since last year
00:04:56with different allies on the part of Iran such as the
00:05:02among them, the way in resistance movement entrenched in Yemen and so on, and which involved other maritime
00:05:06spaces such as the Red Sea, the Persian
00:05:09Gulf, but until now the Caspian Sea had
00:05:12nothing to do with all this. Some consider it an inland sea. It
00:05:16is a maritime space that involves
00:05:19the borders of five countries and
00:05:23evidently the government of Ukraine has
00:05:26tried to measure the strengths of the alliances and the
00:05:30response of the Islamic Republic was forceful, they
00:05:33did not accept any type of aggression, much less
00:05:37unilateral, much less without Ukraine taking
00:05:41responsibility until the moment that Iran detected
00:05:44where those aggressions had come from,
00:05:47and the interesting thing is that Ukraine had to come out
00:05:51and apologize, as if it had been some kind
00:05:55of military miscalculation
00:05:57to attack this commercial
00:06:00vessel, to which the Iranian response a few
00:06:04hours ago was that if they had not apologized,
00:06:07the Islamic Republic had already
00:06:10identified three different targets
00:06:14in Ukrainian territory to
00:06:16attack, which would end,
00:06:20I think once and for all, this conflict
00:06:23zone that is increasingly wider. When
00:06:27you say that they had already identified some targets in Ukraine under the principle of
00:06:31legitimate defense, also backed by the United Nations Charter, what would be
00:06:35the impact if it really is about dragging or unifying or
00:06:38merging, so to speak, these two conflicts, the one that breaks out in
00:06:42Eastern Europe and what could impact these regions, not only
00:06:46Eurasia, but also Asia Pacific and the rest of the planet,
00:06:50because the economic impact would be one of the first, perhaps and the
00:06:53most evident.
00:06:56Yes, the feeling is that alliances are still trying
00:07:00to reconfigure and at the same
00:07:03time try to see to what extent the
00:07:06reliability of political structures is
00:07:10working, and in that sense,
00:07:14in the last few hours or days we have seen,
00:07:17for example, for the first time a joint
00:07:20attack with F-35 planes
00:07:23by the United States and Saudi Arabia
00:07:26against Iraqi territory,
00:07:30than in the context of the great Arba'een procession
00:07:33where millions of people walk, especially Shiite
00:07:37Muslims, to what is the city
00:07:40of Karbala where
00:07:43the remains of the Imam lie. This is no small matter, it is a great provocation, like the attacks that
00:07:47the United States made during the funerals of Ayatollah Khomeini
00:07:51and which shows a
00:07:54desperation to try to block this
00:07:58level of alliances that is growing in Western
00:08:01Asia, and the great surprise in this sense, Paula, is
00:08:05that a NATO country like Turkey
00:08:09is strengthening,
00:08:12I would say, at a very fast
00:08:15pace, diplomatic relations with the
00:08:19Islamic Republic of Iran, something that until relatively recently,
00:08:22two years ago, seemed impossible, because
00:08:26Iran and Turkey were clashing in the territory of the Syrian
00:08:29Arab Republic. Turkey, as the country
00:08:33that, at least from its borders,
00:08:37these terrorist groups entered seeking to destabilize
00:08:40the government of Bashar al-Assad, we are talking about ISIS, al-Nusra
00:08:44Front, Daesh or whatever you want to call it, and on the other
00:08:48side Iran supporting the government of Bashar al-Assad, even with a great
00:08:52work by the martyr Qassem Soleimani
00:08:55confronting these groups. After
00:08:58that conflict ended, beyond the political results where
00:09:02there are winners and losers, Iran and
00:09:05Turkey are talking again, just as they were able
00:09:08to establish in the Treaty of Erzurum of
00:09:111823, defined borders
00:09:14between the two countries that it is important to remember, Iran and
00:09:17Turkey have more than 500 km of border, they are
00:09:21countries that deserve an alliance, but at the same time they are
00:09:24brotherly countries, Turkey is not Arab,
00:09:28Iran is not Arab, they are Persian, but they
00:09:31share a religion and they share an identity. For
00:09:35the first time, Paola, the Iranian
00:09:38government proposes to
00:09:40Turkey that it is time
00:09:42to start thinking about a military block for regional
00:09:46defense and in this way do without those
00:09:49other two great allies they have, which are
00:09:52Russia and China, to make any type of
00:09:56defense. This is no small matter because Turkey itself
00:10:00was the one that passed very important
00:10:03information about the Kurdish uprisings
00:10:06in Iraq that were trying to destabilize
00:10:10the government of Iran. It is important to remember that the Barzani
00:10:14clan in Iraq, which are the families that
00:10:16dominate Iraqi Kurdistan,
00:10:20are openly financed by Israel and the United
00:10:24States. So we have for the first time a NATO
00:10:27country like Turkey, giving
00:10:30very important information to Iran, perhaps its new
00:10:34ally, that they are beginning to form a block in which
00:10:37Turkey until now, had always been
00:10:40a kind of great mediator, let's remember that it was Turkey
00:10:44that facilitated the first advances
00:10:47in what would be the negotiations between the Russian
00:10:51Federation and Ukraine, the ones that allowed the passage
00:10:55of ships through the Bosphorus with Ukrainian cereals,
00:10:58but at the same time they are part of NATO, in fact in
00:11:02July the last NATO summit was held
00:11:04in Ankara, so well,
00:11:08obviously new alliances are still being forged, but the
00:11:11conflict goes beyond Western Asia, this has
00:11:15a lot to do with those interests that are also looming, we will deepen the
00:11:20break, because this also has an impact within the domestic
00:11:23policy of the United States and also the role that
00:11:27NATO will play later, it is about promoting this
00:11:30organization despite the discontent that
00:11:33the White House itself makes clear in the media. What
00:11:37is behind all these movements? I ask Sebastián Salgado to stay on the line
00:11:41as well as our viewers, let's take a short break, not
00:11:44without first sharing our
00:11:46scale.
00:11:59Through the Telesur map scale, we want to share this
00:12:02cartoon from our Telesur multiplatform information
00:12:06platform, which I invite you to visit, share, and like.
00:12:09This is a sample of the growing scarcity of weaponry in the
00:12:13US Armed Forces, a reality where the country's
00:12:17military reserves are reaching a limit. The
00:12:20Ukrainian government maintains its urgent call to the West. From Kiev
00:12:24it insists on urgently receiving more air
00:12:27defense material to face the intensity of the
00:12:31conflict. There we see a marine, a military man who
00:12:35says: Sir, we understand the shortage of weapons, but
00:12:38understand our shame before
00:12:42the Iranians, and this same panorama is currently reflected in
00:12:45Ukraine, they no longer have Patriot missiles
00:12:48in their favor, there is no authorization or license from the United States
00:12:52for them to be manufactured within Ukrainian territory.
00:14:42Let's add another element to the analysis through the photograph. The one
00:14:45you see in the background is the President of the United States, Donald
00:14:49Trump. Recently, a
00:14:51survey was released, a survey was issued
00:14:55that reflects an unfavorable trend for his
00:14:58administration, with a general approval rating of only
00:15:0235%. Disapproval already
00:15:05exceeds 60%. A
00:15:09marked partisan polarization where he retains majority
00:15:13support among Republicans, but registers sharp drops among
00:15:17independents, but also among Democrats, driven mainly
00:15:20by citizen dissatisfaction with the cost of
00:15:23living, inflation, conflicts
00:15:27which the attacks against the Islamic
00:15:30Republic of Iran were restarted. Added
00:15:33to this is the discontent with continuing to support Israel's Prime
00:15:37Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, more than 24% who were
00:15:41added to the idea that he should pay for war
00:15:44crimes, a complex panorama for the Republican
00:15:47administration that will also face mid-term
00:15:50elections in November.
00:15:52término.
00:15:58Sebastian, this is a seemingly disheartening,
00:16:01desolate panorama for the Republican wing, which seems unable
00:16:05to emerge from internal criticism of a
00:16:08country that is unable to resolve its
00:16:11situations, but is very focused on continuing to draw
00:16:14narratives around Iran, alleged
00:16:18agreements, alleged negotiations that are not advancing, but
00:16:21also in a war that has not ended and that had been a promise of
00:16:25Trump before assuming his second term, which was
00:16:29to end the conflict in Eastern Europe with the Ukrainian
00:16:32crisis. What scenario
00:16:34are we facing? Well,
00:16:38there are several scenarios at the same time, and Trump's
00:16:42own contradictions, as you have been pointing out,
00:16:45show a panorama in which the United
00:16:49States has made quite shameful decisions in the military
00:16:52field, first moving its large aircraft carriers that
00:16:56then had to turn around and
00:16:59return because they didn't know
00:17:02to keep them afloat against
00:17:05the missile responses, both hypersonic
00:17:09and ballistic, of the Islamic Republic, and they had to
00:17:13remove them from the conflict zone. That is a quite
00:17:17shameful action that has just
00:17:20happened recently,
00:17:22came after is
00:17:25evidently a non-compliance with the
00:17:28agreements that had been progressing,
00:17:32and a much
00:17:36on the part of the Islamic Republic. They say:
00:17:39We are no longer
00:17:42over. We will respond to the aggressions we suffer.
00:17:46Based on that, we will be responding.
00:17:52in the last few hours that they will
00:17:54simply be talking with Oman, and from then
00:17:58on, navigability
00:18:01through the Strait of Hormuz is a reality that they will
00:18:05agree on between these two countries. Let's think
00:18:09that before this, which they call the 40-day war,
00:18:13the West navigated through the Strait of Hormuz
00:18:16as they pleased, and many of those ships were linked to the very
00:18:20Zionist interests. That's over, that's not going to
00:18:24go back, and just as there was a recovery of the
00:18:27territories by the Russian Federation that historically belonged to
00:18:31them and that were attacked by that neo-fascist
00:18:35regime in Kiev,
00:18:38and that both Luhansk and Donetsk, Kherson,
00:18:41Zaporizhzhia and Crimea are
00:18:44previously living a new reality, that reality
00:18:47also in the Strait of Hormuz will not go back,
00:18:51and in that sense, evidently
00:18:54the military Keynesianism of the United States that helps to keep
00:18:58its economy afloat, which
00:19:01practically forces NATO countries to spend
00:19:055% of their GDP to buy
00:19:08all the weaponry from them that keeps them afloat, does not mean
00:19:11that they have created strategies to win a
00:19:14war in Western Asia, and that is becoming
00:19:17more and more evident, it is
00:19:21clear that
00:19:24the actions of the Iranian government have not been able
00:19:28to find a response from the United States government that
00:19:32has attacked
00:19:36declassification the archives to change the
00:19:39agenda at that time, and today it is responding
00:19:43practically with the timing of what was the
00:19:46soccer world cup also with the timing of the
00:19:51mid-term elections as you mentioned, but also the
00:19:55elections in occupied Palestine,
00:19:58that is, the elections in Israel during the month
00:20:01of October, and in that context, although they do not
00:20:04acknowledge it, they are dismantling
00:20:08some of their military bases, especially in Bahrain,
00:20:12which it is important to remember was also an
00:20:15island, but was part of the territory
00:20:18of Iran until what was the monarchy of Shah
00:20:22Reza Pahlavi, which they handed over. It remains to be seen
00:20:25if at some point Iran
00:20:29does not propose to recover that territory, just as the Russian Federation has
00:20:33recovered the Donbas and also the dismantling
00:20:36of the base of Kuwait, which
00:20:39historically had been a kind of
00:20:42bunker for the United States Army. It
00:20:45costs them politically very dearly for
00:20:49US soldiers to return to their country
00:20:52in coffins. This is a matter that
00:20:55evidently Donald Trump did not calculate in
00:20:59political timing, but it is part of the reality
00:21:02they are experiencing, and all of this also converges amidst
00:21:06the involvement of this transatlantic
00:21:09organization of the north, Sebastian already told us something in the first
00:21:13block of the map, but why such
00:21:16insistence on its active participation, ultimately who makes the
00:21:21decisions regarding these attacks that today more than ever have
00:21:24civilians as targets? Ukraine does it, the United
00:21:27States does it, Israel does it, let's analyze
00:21:31why. For this, I propose Sebastian, that we review our legend together.
00:21:50referring to this transatlantic organization,
00:21:54if Russia had only done 10% of what Israel is
00:21:57doing in Gaza, NATO would now be at the gates of
00:22:00Moscow. The West has taught us that human rights
00:22:04begin and end at the limits of Israel's interests.
00:22:08Israel.
00:22:16And to put it in context, Sebastian, just yesterday
00:22:20and no less, the recovery of 112 bodies was achieved,
00:22:2344 of them belonging to children, all
00:22:26under 16 years old, after more than a thousand days trapped in the
00:22:30rubble due to Israel's bombing on September 22,
00:22:332023. Their families would only now be able
00:22:37to give them a Christian burial or make the offerings that their
00:22:41religion allows, in this case in Gaza to say their last goodbyes,
00:22:44all of them martyred. That is what President Vladimir
00:22:48Putin is referring to, but also
00:22:50we are interested in knowing what is behind all this
00:22:53involvement, NATO is providing software, it is providing
00:22:57information practically commanding operations against
00:23:01Russia and Russia knows it, but why
00:23:04insist on this transatlantic
00:23:06organization, or in reality, what is the
00:23:09ultimate goal?
00:23:13Well, first, yes, keep in mind Paola, that
00:23:16infanticides
00:23:20are part of the military projects of Anglo-Zionism,
00:23:24let's remember that in that
00:23:26way on February 28,
00:23:29they entered Iran
00:23:32causing the martyrdom of 168
00:23:35girls. Yes, in Donbas,
00:23:38they have
00:23:41for some years now erected
00:23:44a monument called The Angels in the city
00:23:48of Donetsk because of the number of children that the Ukrainian
00:23:53support of NATO. They have as a
00:23:57strategy to try to
00:23:59demoralize civilian society with direct attacks
00:24:03on children, and what you are
00:24:06naming about Palestine is no small matter, it is the
00:24:10way they have of acting and
00:24:14that evidently shows an antagonistic
00:24:18vision to the most basic defense of human
00:24:22rights that must, of course, prioritize
00:24:25children, and in that sense,
00:24:29I perceive a very important
00:24:31breakdown, first because some
00:24:35European countries that are suffering in their economies no longer
00:24:39know how to justify to their
00:24:41populations
00:24:44the level of sanctions they have imposed, for example, on the Russian
00:24:47Federation, by stopping buying
00:24:51cheap energy, such as the gas that was going to enter through the North Stream
00:24:542 pipeline through Germany, and that now it is the
00:24:58populations themselves who have to assume those
00:25:01situations. When Donald Trump
00:25:04tried to impose an agenda on them to join
00:25:08the attacks on the Islamic Republic unanimously, they told him
00:25:11no. So there it starts to become
00:25:15perhaps a little clearer that that agenda of the
00:25:19Zionist Israeli lobby that they impose on
00:25:22the United States army, Europe can also
00:25:25perceive it, and given the discontent generated
00:25:28by the actions of governments in the rear of NATO, well,
00:25:32many governments are
00:25:35trying to distance themselves from all that,
00:25:39because ultimately,
00:25:42the Palestinian cause has generated, I believe, a
00:25:46level of solidarity never before seen and that today
00:25:49can be seen. That is why many
00:25:52leaders, even those created by Western interests, such
00:25:56as the monarchies of the
00:25:59Gulf, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar,
00:26:02try to send different messages from those they
00:26:06have been managing until now. But there are some, like
00:26:09Morocco and the United Arab Emirates, who already have it
00:26:13explicitly through the Abraham Accords
00:26:17with, let's say, levels of understanding, even military
00:26:20level with the Israeli axis, so
00:26:24evidently the leaders want to send signals of
00:26:27governability to the peoples who sympathize with the Palestinian
00:26:31cause, but at the same time, the hypocrisy of many of them
00:26:35shows a continuation of
00:26:38these attacks that
00:26:42put children at risk.
00:26:44permanent, this also helps us understand this whole
00:26:48range not only of interests but also what is
00:26:52at stake amidst these movements that continue to enrich the military
00:26:55industrial complex, but not even the European but the
00:26:58American one. Thanks to Sebastián Salgado for his time and valuable insights
00:27:02that he has shared with our viewers of the map, the program ends and we
00:27:06do it by reviewing our vectors,
00:27:19our radar on the map today reflects the three keys on this topic: Ukraine
00:27:23escalating the war, let's talk about fusion,
00:27:26it seems to be Israel's strategy, but also the United States',
00:27:29since if the conflicts in Ukraine and Iran were to merge more directly, the
00:27:33result could be devastating, there are already several governments in the world that
00:27:37are getting involved and an open war in those
00:27:40terms would not only implode Eurasia, but also
00:27:44West Asia and the rest of the world, because its main impact would be
00:27:47economic, two, objective: to strengthen
00:27:51its commitments with Ukraine and Israel to confront the leader of the axis of
00:27:54resistance, Iran, with greater firmness, what they
00:27:58seek is to expand an American coalition under the subservience of the
00:28:01European Union to achieve its central objective, which is
00:28:05China. Three. NATO: Western governments
00:28:08continue to describe their main role in
00:28:12terms of military assistance and we will put it in quotes towards Ukraine. However,
00:28:15the previous examples suggest that this
00:28:19relationship is becoming considerably more
00:28:22complex. European companies participate in the development and manufacture of
00:28:26weaponry, production is moving outside the
00:28:30borders of Ukraine and communication standards. NATO
00:28:33is increasingly incorporated into Ukrainian command systems, despite this, the
00:28:37loss of ground in Ukraine is a sign of a
00:28:40weakening of this transatlantic organization and
00:28:44that is causing despair to the occupant of the White
00:28:47House. I'm Paola Pérez and we'll see you in another edition of the map.