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00:00:02shooting at children, that is, what
00:00:06Europe and the United States is the metropolis of
00:00:23population of Gaza to displacement of the
00:00:36These ideas are to remember years after the beginning and intensification of the military aggression, the genocide of the
00:00:40Israeli regime against the Gaza Strip, the figures and
00:00:43the devastation portray an unprecedented human
00:00:47tragedy. More than 74,000 Palestinians killed,
00:00:50mostly women and children, 90% of
00:00:53the population forcibly
00:00:55and we have seen the displaced, and more than 80% of vital
00:00:58infrastructure reduced to rubble. Thousands of families
00:01:02survive an implacable military offensive that has
00:01:05erased entire neighborhoods and has turned childhood into the
00:01:08main statistic, into the main statistic of horror.
00:01:12Today we analyze the dimension of the Israeli
00:01:15genocide, three years on, the paralysis of international organizations
00:01:19in the face of the systematic violation of international law and the
00:01:23historical resistance of the Palestinian
00:01:25poor nations, it is the law of people. How far has the media narrative about
00:01:28Israel's self-defense gone, and how far must Zionism go for it to be
00:01:32punished for its actions in
00:01:41beginning of the intensification of the genocide in Gaza. The humanitarian
00:01:45and violence situation in Palestinian
00:01:47those responsible? So far, the United territory continues to be marked by a serious crisis, the silence and lack of action
00:01:51continues. The result, staggering
00:01:54figures. More than
00:01:56less so. The apartheid 74,000 Palestinians own interests, so how are we going to killed and 175,000 injured.
00:02:00How far has the media narrative of Israel's self-defense gone, and how far
00:02:03must Zionism go for it to be punished for the genocide in
00:02:07Gaza?
00:02:08Well,
00:02:11there we had the profile of
00:02:13humanity. Yes, in that case our program, I immediately proceed population, and well, I am accompanied to talk with our guests in the studio,
00:02:17Indu Anderi, journalist, human rights activist and in solidarity with Palestine.
00:02:20Thank you very much, Indu, for your
00:02:23time with us and with the Latin American audience. Also in the distance,
00:02:27I am accompanied by Daniel.
00:02:30International specialist in the Middle East and Near East. Daniel, thank
00:02:34many facets to comment on in the you very much for your time with us, welcome to this space with the
00:02:37Telesur audience. Also Eduardo Menéces, political scientist
00:02:41of thinking about international law. What specialized in Middle East geopolitics. Thank you too,
00:02:45Eduardo, for your time, welcome to
00:02:48the coverage that Telesur is carrying out on this topic today, text and
00:02:51context. First question that has to do precisely with what is
00:02:55happening legally, right, in this case Indu,
00:02:58with you, because.
00:03:01Eh, the detractors of the genocide say that
00:03:04legally there is no evidence to point to Israel's aggressions
00:03:07as genocide because they have not expressed a specific intention to
00:03:11destroy Palestinians, but the UN, also organizations like
00:03:16genocide approved by the UN Amnesty International conclude that genocide genocide, what is happening in was committed. More than 75 eh
00:03:20retired US generals and legal experts signed an
00:03:23open letter rejecting that accusation, arguing that the deaths of
00:03:27civilians, however serious, do not constitute the same
00:03:31intention required by the convention on genocide, so here it is worth
00:03:34asking, does international law
00:03:38require specific intention, statements by
00:03:41Israeli leaders who describe Palestinians as human
00:03:44animals? This is precisely inscribed
00:03:47as an eh
00:03:50proof, isn't there specifically a proof that
00:03:54categorizes Israel precisely as an entity that is committing
00:03:58about the scenario of genocide in Gaza? Look, these statements essentially reiterate
00:04:02that international law, that the international system
00:04:06collapsed, that we are facing
00:04:09the eh, let's say, the horror
00:04:13in check, economically, and that is what of what has been a practice
00:04:16of defending human rights for some and archiving the
00:04:20human rights of others, eh, I don't
00:04:23know if Hitler in Germany planned
00:04:27to eradicate a certain part of the population and that's why one
00:04:31cannot deny that there was a genocide
00:04:34there too, right, in the Second World War. We are facing a
00:04:38an unspeakable tragedy that not only concerns
00:04:41us by seeing the horrors that have been committed
00:04:45against the Palestinian population. There is something that in
00:04:48journalism we talk about when we say
00:04:51eh elements of fact, that is to
00:04:55say, just by looking at the images that are broadcast live and
00:04:59direct, through social networks, through digital media,
00:05:02through all conventional media, we already have enough
00:05:06evidence of what is happening there, that is,
00:05:10we see daily mercenaries
00:05:15happened with the girl Hind, Rajab, for example, what
00:05:18does it mean, or what happens permanently with the use of
00:05:22hunger against Palestinian children, or for example, the
00:05:26fact of using snipers to murder
00:05:29pregnant women in the middle of the situation in Gaza, the
00:05:36different spaces where they are hunted by the
00:05:39Zionist mercenaries of the entity that occupies a
00:05:42land illegitimately, because I believe
00:05:45that one should also ask if indeed those who
00:05:48took over the occupation of Palestine did so with the
00:05:52right they legally had, that is, the Palestinian
00:05:55people were never consulted, the Arab
00:05:58countries were not taken into account, all the
00:06:01rights of the people of Palestine were violated when it was decided to
00:06:05divide Palestine in more than half, giving it to that
00:06:08Zionist elite that has illegitimately
00:06:11occupied it and that that territory will never
00:06:15be the territory of the so-called Israel, it will always be Palestine,
00:06:18occupied Palestine.
00:06:22So, we are very struck
00:06:25by the fact of that
00:06:28denialism when they ask us to
00:06:31assume the Holocaust. The Holocaust happened with more than 100
00:06:35million people in the Second World War, not just
00:06:39to one sector of the population. There, Jews
00:06:43eh Muslims, eh Christians, homosexuals,
00:06:47communists, poor people died, everyone died, but in
00:06:50Palestine they are finishing and exterminating a
00:06:53specific people. What more proof do they want then
00:06:57to eh punish
00:07:00Nations, which is the main responsible for what is happening in
00:07:03Palestine, which carries the blame on its shoulders, not
00:07:06only the responsibility, the legal guilt, the
00:07:10guilt. human, that is, the UN is the creator of that
00:07:14monster that has occurred at this time, they have not
00:07:17assumed real, forceful solutions
00:07:21to stop a massacre, which is the shame of
00:07:26also, well Daniel, I wanted to ask you
00:07:30because after these three years there is an arrest warrant
00:07:33issued against Benjamin Netanyahu, but impunity
00:07:37unfortunately persists, what credibility does, speaking of
00:07:41that precisely, what credibility does the International Criminal
00:07:44Court have if it issues precisely these arrest warrants
00:07:47against Israeli leaders for genocide, but they face no real consequences?
00:07:51Right. Clearly, it's what
00:07:55Hindu says perfectly. There is a
00:07:58collision between an institutional international order,
00:08:02created by white European supremacism especially,
00:08:06to avoid new genocides in the white
00:08:09European world, but not to commit them in the
00:08:12plundering world,
00:08:16in the world of the countries of the global south or what
00:08:19was formerly called the third world, no? And therefore, we suddenly find
00:08:23ourselves with a gigantic collision. Note that the definition of
00:08:29convention establishes an intention to destroy
00:08:33a national group, an ethnic
00:08:36group, eh, or to impose conditions
00:08:39of life to destroy. This is what the
00:08:43Gaza ghetto has been suffering for decades with the blockade
00:08:46in which the colonial Israeli regime counted the calories
00:08:49that entered, that in times of peace, but the massacres
00:08:53of 2008, 2012, 2014
00:08:56were a prologue
00:08:59to what we are experiencing at this moment, with the
00:09:02absolute extermination of 15 atomic bombs of Hiroshima in the Gaza
00:09:06ghetto. So, of course, no human
00:09:10being in the history of the planet has
00:09:13received more eh kilograms
00:09:15of TNT per capita
00:09:19in the ratio more than the Palestinian people within the Gaza extermination
00:09:23camp. Of course it is an extermination, of course it goes beyond
00:09:27genocide itself, it is a complete Palestinian holocaust, it is an
00:09:30ecocide, domicide, scholasticide,
00:09:34but well, we find ourselves in that
00:09:38absolute clash of foundations created to protect the white
00:09:41world. and at the moment that part of that white world
00:09:45sub-imperial actor such as the colonial Israeli
00:09:49regime, the colony of foreigners in Palestine, has been
00:09:52singled out because it has carried out these
00:09:55acts, suddenly that international order has imploded. It
00:09:58was already imploding, notice, you mentioned the International Criminal Court, but we can
00:10:02also talk about the International Court of Justice. The International Court of
00:10:06Justice is the most important legal body on the planet, it is
00:10:09attached to the UN, it is not like the Criminal
00:10:12Court, which those who have signed the Rome Statute belong to,
00:10:16no. The International Court of Justice is the first to in
00:10:202024 establish that a plausible
00:10:22genocide was taking place. eh which also declared in
00:10:262024 eh Israel as an apartheid
00:10:30regime, which is a crime against humanity, and therefore all the states on the
00:10:34planet should have already cut relations, exercised an
00:10:37active boycott and sanctions, including not only
00:10:40economic, military sanctions
00:10:43eh of eh let's say
00:10:46attack eh on the neuralgic centers of the Israeli
00:10:50regime, what the native forces are doing in
00:10:53Lebanon, in Iran, in Yemen, etc., but... that International Court
00:10:57of Justice has been buried, not even the Secretary General of the UN, Antonio
00:11:01Guterres, has bothered for a single day to remember that there are six
00:11:05executive orders from the International Court of Justice to stop this
00:11:08genocide. I will conclude now with what you said, the International Criminal
00:11:12Court. The International Criminal Court, which the United States is not a signatory to, of course, but
00:11:15France, Italy, Greece, for example, are signatories,
00:11:19and there is an arrest warrant against Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant,
00:11:23as you well said at the beginning, that Minister of War who on October
00:11:278th declared Palestinians as human animals.
00:11:30An arrest warrant against Netanyahu has flown over
00:11:34these three countries, at least also, Spain on some occasions,
00:11:38during countless occasions that the UN has gone to
00:11:41speak, as it did just a few weeks ago with complete impunity, as
00:11:45you well said. Therefore, a whole international
00:11:48institutionality created for one purpose, the survival
00:11:51and sustenance of the
00:11:53hegemonic power of the North, is collapsing. From now on,
00:11:57another international order will have to be created, rescuing what is
00:12:00valid and valuable from the previous one, but creating one for all
00:12:04human beings, not just for whites and their
00:12:07settler henchmen in Palestine. And well, this is important
00:12:10after 3 years, Eduardo, because there is
00:12:13silence in the international community and I ask
00:12:16you, has this been a form of complicity, proof
00:12:20that the multilateral system blocked by the veto is
00:12:23obsolete regarding the issue of Palestine?
00:12:26Well, I think it is evident eh that we can
00:12:30affirm the fact that international law, the organizations
00:12:33in charge of defending it have been
00:12:36totally buried, and I would say, they have clearly
00:12:39died in a historical process, a cycle of
00:12:43international law as we knew it ended with the genocide in
00:12:47Palestine which evidenced the total incapacity of
00:12:50action in which we have, for example, a
00:12:54Security Council that is incapable, and
00:12:57will be incapable as long as it continues to have the same structure eh that it has today
00:13:01to make decisions that truly go in the direction
00:13:06we have is a, Morales once said, a council of
00:13:09insecurity for the peoples of the south, in which the central
00:13:12countries, winners of a war more than
00:13:1670 years ago, today are the ones who pretend to dictate
00:13:20eh the norm for the countries of the world according to their interests, that cannot
00:13:24be. eh a concept of international law, we see
00:13:28institutions that have produced
00:13:31dozens of reports, more than enough
00:13:34evidence of what is happening in the Palestinian territories, of the
00:13:39the clear intentions of ethnic cleansing to be able
00:13:43to eh strengthen a colonial process, and yet these institutions are
00:13:46totally incapable because they were not designed for that. We know
00:13:50that international institutions were
00:13:52designed for... a world
00:13:56for powers that emerged after the Second World War and in a context in which
00:14:00a new multipolar world is emerging. This
00:14:03moment what we see is a historical moment in which the one that
00:14:07dictates the world order is war, not international
00:14:10law. The only thing that has been able to defend the Iranian people from
00:14:13an American aggression or an Israeli aggression are weapons.
00:14:17The only thing that protects the Yemeni people
00:14:20from an imperialist aggression,
00:14:24again, are weapons. In other countries they have not been able
00:14:27to defend themselves because of the
00:14:30aggression that the United States has in search of resources throughout the
00:14:33planet, it is still weapons, not international law.
00:14:37International law is a word that was written at this moment in dead
00:14:40letter in some conventions that no one
00:14:44is able to apply. What we are experiencing at this moment is a moment of
00:14:47transition in which it will surely be the consecration
00:14:51of a new multipolar order in which they will have to negotiate.
00:14:55China, Russia will have to negotiate, without a doubt the United
00:14:58States, to give light to a new
00:15:02context in which we could begin to think about
00:15:05international law, but it is more than clear that the international law we had conceived until
00:15:09now is buried, it is dead, it is totally incapable of acting at a
00:15:13time when it is war that is dictating the correlation of forces between
00:15:17great powers and unfortunately it is the Palestinian
00:15:20people, one of the main eh, the
00:15:23main victim who is experiencing
00:15:25this death of international law and of course the role and role
00:15:29that not only the region
00:15:31there eh in Palestine, but also the
00:15:35countries of West Asia, but also throughout
00:15:38the world eh what the struggle of the Palestinians
00:15:41also means for the Latin American continent and what it represents because
00:15:45we have seen during all these last days also
00:15:48mobilizations for the Palestinian cause, this we will discuss
00:15:52later, short break text and context today talking 3 years
00:15:55of the genocide and the aggressive resurgence of
00:15:59Israel against the Gaza Strip,
00:16:01we'll be right back.
00:16:31Among countries, those with better climate, more arable
00:16:34land, more water, more
00:16:37natural resources in the space they happened to live in, when there
00:16:41are no more territories to conquer, those who dominate
00:16:44technologies, those who possess more development and
00:16:48manage infinite media resources, and those who,
00:16:51on the contrary, do not enjoy any of these
00:16:54prerogatives, are the sometimes abysmal
00:16:57differences between what are classified as rich or
00:17:03the jungle. Fidel Castro, October
00:17:0611, 2008 taken from the reflection the law of the jungle.
00:17:42Thank you for following us on text and context three years after the
00:17:45beginning of the aggression of genocide against the Palestinian
00:17:50by Indu Anderi, a journalist from the studio, Daniel Lovato, an international
00:17:54political analyst, and in the distance also Eduardo Menés, a political scientist specialized
00:17:58in geopolitics and the Middle East. Indu,
00:18:02what we have commented on is important,
00:18:05but above all the importance of international
00:18:08mobilization. We have seen in recent days, not only here in
00:18:12Venezuela, but also in other Latin American countries, how, despite
00:18:15three years, the voice is multiplying. Despite the veto
00:18:19on social networks, in any area, a large number of people,
00:18:22journalists, artists, etc., have been vetoed, but nevertheless
00:18:25the Palestinian cause remains alive among the peoples,
00:18:29especially in Latin America. How are you seeing this movement? The Palestinian
00:18:32cause has been vetoed, even the genocide has been vetoed, that
00:18:35is, the less we talk about it, the
00:18:39better. That is also part of international
00:18:42complicity that
00:18:46tolerates, for example, coups d'état, kidnappings
00:18:49of presidents, bombings, etc., but that
00:18:52maintains silence in the face of what is happening. However,
00:18:56as you rightly say, there is a mobilization, there is an awareness.
00:18:59Look, Palestine is the center of the
00:19:03violation of all known human rights, but also
00:19:06Palestine has meant the awakening of peoples.
00:19:10I believe that Palestine has even awakened the
00:19:13concerns and rights of the peoples that we see in the streets
00:19:17in Europe today. I believe that Palestine has also meant for
00:19:20the United States a way of rising up from that
00:19:24dictatorship, from that tyranny they have in that space. That
00:19:28is, Palestine is a cause for humanity, because humanity is the cause of Palestine.
00:19:31Of course, now Daniel, eh, well, let's talk a little
00:19:36the measures. the sanctions. I want to ask you especially
00:19:39about Europe, because some European governments that present
00:19:43themselves as defenders of human rights, took 3 years to consider,
00:19:46for example, restricting trade in Israeli settlements. An interesting
00:19:50fact is that this only happened after electoral
00:19:53pressure forced them to do so. Francesca
00:19:57Albanese herself, UN rapporteur, pointed out that these measures
00:20:00by some governments come very late and do not have much
00:20:03scope regarding the scenario, how do you see that issue?
00:20:08They are measures from 50 years ago, they are 50 years
00:20:12late. It has been more than 50 years since the Israeli regime invaded
00:20:16also the West Bank and kept the Gaza
00:20:19ghetto under occupation.
00:20:21Let's say that Europe, the collective West is desperate to sustain its
00:20:25colony, given that the colony in Palestine, that colony of
00:20:28foreigners, is the epicenter of the mechanism of
00:20:32subordination of all West Asia called the Middle East, for
00:20:35oil, gas. The passage routes, Suez Canal, Red
00:20:39Sea, Bab el-Mandeb, Strait of Hormuz, we see
00:20:42today what it means. Palestine has
00:20:45exposed the entire mechanism of domination, not only in West
00:20:48Asia, but also in the rest. This of involved countries, the
00:20:52Western metropolis, all of collective
00:20:56the colony, in turn the mechanisms of domination
00:20:59against many other countries of the global south that have had
00:21:03representatives imposed even by the electoral
00:21:07manipulation of Israeli companies to make a
00:21:10fierce defense of Zionism. So what we have to be clear about here is that the peoples are the
00:21:14ones who push, and as you said earlier, we are
00:21:17rescuing eh some... some values,
00:21:20some ideas that were dormant for 50 years.
00:21:26who is the representative of an oppressed people,
00:21:30those who fight against that oppression, as in
00:21:34Vietnam, the representative of the Vietnamese people was the
00:21:37Viet Cong, North Vietnam, as
00:21:40in, let's say, in Nicaragua against Somoza it was the
00:21:44Sandinista Front. Here, the representative of the Palestinian
00:21:48people are the resistance forces that fight against oppression.
00:21:52That's first of all, we have to identify who
00:21:55is the representative of the Palestinian people, and second
00:21:58of all, to say loud and clear that
00:22:02the legitimate right to armed struggle must
00:22:05be supported, because it is even stated in international
00:22:09law, UN Resolution 30/70, all the
00:22:11peoples of the world must give their support to those peoples who fight against
00:22:15colonial domination, therefore we must actively,
00:22:18verbally...
00:22:22Palestinian resistance forces and finally also not be afraid
00:22:25to declare that the colonial regime has no right to
00:22:29exist. States in themselves do not have an inherent
00:22:32right to exist, the Austro-Hungarian Empire did not have it, unified
00:22:36Yugoslavia did not have it, there is no intrinsic right, but furthermore
00:22:40artificial states created by the force of
00:22:43invaders, even
00:22:46South Africa, Rhodesia, etc. Therefore, we must...
00:22:50fight for the disappearance of the Israeli
00:22:52regime as soon as possible. Yes, you mentioned that armed
00:22:56struggle and I ask you, Eduardo, precisely
00:23:00about the role that countries in West Asia are playing in this
00:23:03scenario, because obviously it's not only Palestine, we have also
00:23:06seen what is happening in Lebanon and what is also happening in Yemen,
00:23:10which in some way is related to all this Western
00:23:13aggression, the role they are playing and the balance
00:23:17precisely of these movements and the armed struggle in that part of the world
00:23:203 years after the beginning of these aggressions.
00:23:24Well, I think it's fundamental to say, as we said a moment ago,
00:23:27that at a time when international law has disappeared and only
00:23:31the unfortunately armed capacity to defend sovereignty
00:23:34remains, countries like Iran or Yemen are
00:23:37demonstrating that today there are two fundamental axes that can
00:23:41be eh used by the countries of the south to
00:23:44defend the right of peoples to self-determination, to define their
00:23:48horizon beyond the imperialist interests that want to impose
00:23:52themselves. The first has to do with the fact that the war
00:23:55eh that has broken out in West Asia
00:23:59shows that it is totally possible to carry out a
00:24:03defense with asymmetric warfare. We have seen countries like Iran or
00:24:07Yemen develop a whole military industry that has an
00:24:10extremely low cost in comparison to the military
00:24:13expenses of a private American industry that has a whole
00:24:17inertia that has been going on for decades, but above all profits from
00:24:20death, that is, it is a military war, but will continue to implement
00:24:24war in every corner of the world, making money, and it is very expensive.
00:24:28In reality, it is a private industry that is extremely expensive
00:24:31against strategies like those of Iran and Yemen that have shown that
00:24:35there is an asymmetry when this war is a, uh, when this
00:24:39military industry, let's say, is an industry that is made to defend sovereignty,
00:24:43but on the other hand, they have shown that when the United States is
00:24:46looking to intervene in a country, it is to intervene because of natural
00:24:50resources, and at the same time, that is the double face of what is at stake,
00:24:54since when Iran or Yemen manage to
00:24:56retain these natural resources and defend their sovereignty,
00:25:00they put the empire
00:25:03has been shown with the Strait of Hormuz, with the Strait of Bab el-Mandeb, in
00:25:07which the United States has shown its economic
00:25:10Achilles' heel, since without these resources, the
00:25:13American imperialist accumulation regime cannot survive, and that
00:25:17is what Yemen is showing, the example, for example, to the
00:25:21whole world that there are ways to resist this American
00:25:25imperialism, and I think they are an example for the rest of the countries that are
00:25:28threatened by this.
00:25:30Indu, uh, well, we continue to witness a televised genocide, of course.
00:25:34Uh, they live under an impressive
00:25:37siege. Families,
00:25:40women and children, childhood, is mainly the
00:25:44most degrading fact of what this
00:25:47tragedy has been in the Gaza Strip. How will the Gaza Strip
00:25:50be remembered in history?
00:25:53Oh, that's a terrible question, right?
00:25:56Because uh, what is happening in
00:25:59Palestine, in Gaza, specifically, is the
00:26:02condemnation of an entire generation to be mutilated. We are
00:26:06seeing piles of mutilated children without arms, without
00:26:10legs. I don't believe in these statistics of 70,000.
00:26:13No, no, I'm not convinced by those statistics, because those
00:26:17statistics are limited to health
00:26:20care centers, they are limited to official
00:26:23figures, let's say, they are not really scientific, because
00:26:27most of the Palestinians killed were left
00:26:30under the rubble, in
00:26:33between cement and iron, and besides
00:26:36that, there is even talk of
00:26:40diffused weapons, weapons of destruction that we don't
00:26:44know. That is to say, if we talk about there being
00:26:472.5 million people in Gaza on October 7,
00:26:502023, and that explosives have been used for at least
00:26:54four atomic bombs,
00:26:58destruction of more than 90% of the
00:27:01infrastructure of Gaza. And we have seen how
00:27:04patients with chronic
00:27:06diseases have died, we have to be
00:27:10talking about a figure of at least one million people
00:27:13killed as a result of this
00:27:15barbarism that Israel has not been committing since now, that it has
00:27:19been committing for more than 78 years, and that in 1982
00:27:23Israel used forbidden weapons of destruction
00:27:27such as the phosphorus bomb against the population of
00:27:30Lebanon, that has been happening forever in these 78
00:27:34years, Palestine has been the great victim of that
00:27:37macabre experiment called Israel there in this
00:27:41in this area that is simply the
00:27:44possibility that that hegemon that emerged
00:27:47in 1945 with the two atomic bombs has
00:27:51to also maintain that space subjugated to its
00:27:56remember this stage? With a lot of shame, with a lot of shame for the
00:28:00inaction of those who could have stopped that
00:28:03tragedy and for the silence and complicity of those who could have also
00:28:07pressured, I don't know, someone said, "It doesn't just move me,
00:28:10it frightens me what the
00:28:13bad guys don't do, but what
00:28:16the bad guys do, but what the good guys keep silent about."
00:28:20Well, that's how we're going to remember this terrible stage in the
00:28:24history of inhumanity. Very attentive then to this whole scenario and well,
00:28:27the debate is still pending 3 years precisely. of this
00:28:31genocide against the Gaza Strip and which, well, has directly had
00:28:37international community, but what do you also think about this
00:28:40issue? I also remind you that on Telegram, our
00:28:44informative service so that through @telesurtv you
00:28:48can also give your opinion on this and other topics here, text and
00:28:51context. Unfortunately, my time is running out, Indu, thank you very much
00:28:54for attending, also Daniel, also to
00:28:57Eduardo from a distance, thank you for your time. I remind you,
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00:29:34In 1987, Colombia, Jaime
00:29:38Pardo, a lawyer and politician recognized for his role as leader
00:29:41of the Patriotic Union Political Party, was assassinated, a martyr in the
00:29:44struggle for social justice. His career was marked by the
00:29:48defense of workers and the search for a democratic solution
00:29:52in the midst of the political violence that was plaguing the country. What
00:29:56is life worth if when you have it, it seems dead? Life
00:29:59is for living, for feeling, for
00:30:03vibrating. That justifies our passage on
00:30:06Earth. Jaime
00:30:07Pardo. October 11,
00:30:111987, Jaime Pardo is assassinated.
00:30:37What happens when the community organizes to respond to its
00:30:41own needs? In different territories of
00:30:45Venezuela, popular participation opens paths to
00:30:48promote local initiatives, generate
00:30:51opportunities, and strengthen the economy from the communities
00:30:55themselves. Experiences that show how collective
00:30:59work can.