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00:00:00about Ukraine's ability to manufacture patriots in the
00:00:03future. The key fact in all of this is the lead time uh that
00:00:07it would take to to do so. Even with Patriot systems getting green lit
00:00:11in today. We would still be looking at the middle of next year before those will be able to come on-stream and possibly
00:00:15even later before they're actually able to be integrated into
00:00:18Ukrainian
00:00:19of air defense.
00:00:20a In the meantime, Ukraine is working incredibly
00:00:23hard to try and boost its own
00:00:26of of defensive uh domestic manufacturing capabilities. Defense firms here that we've been.
00:00:30to over the last couple of days and that we are talking to - in
00:00:33the the coming
00:00:33of days as well are are really trying to move
00:00:35in forward quickly tandem with their European partners, but there are
00:00:39of significant road blocks, chief among them is how they pay for
00:00:43it, and those are
00:00:44a conversations too
00:00:45in that both NATO and Vlodimir Zelinski will trying to have in European capitals
00:00:50of and of two people have been killed and five others wounded in a
00:00:54Ukrainian drung attack on
00:00:56a
00:00:56of Russia's Briansk region, this comes after the Russian Army. said its air
00:01:00defense systems shut down 605 Ukrainian drones
00:01:04overnight. Local authorities reported logistics center belonging to Russian
00:01:07e-commerce giant wildberies had been slightly damaged
00:01:11in a Ukrainian drone attack. Kyav is reportedly seeking to
00:01:15disrupt the operations
00:01:16of the online
00:01:17of retailer which are accused of aiding Russia's
00:01:22in war. Let's cross to the Russian capital to speak with Dashal Shover. Hi
00:01:26there Dasha it's good to seeing you. Um, how significant?
00:01:30is it that Ukraine has been increasingly targeting wild berries,
00:01:34the wild berries logistic centers and is it affecting
00:01:38everyday life in
00:01:42of Russia? well indeed what we have seen is a sort of opening of new
00:01:46chapter in this conflict with more than
00:01:497%, actually to 25% by different
00:01:52estimas
00:01:53of the wildris network uh logistics network already been
00:01:57affacted by those drones that means almost a quarter
00:02:01of the logistics of this online marketplace is now
00:02:04suffering, so they are operating on tight margins and
00:02:08obviously the effect is
00:02:11a of mostly on the sellers, the small and medium-sized businesses, so the effect depends on how
00:02:15many goods they stored in the wildbrist warehouses, but then you have
00:02:19this domino and knock-on fact when you see the pickup
00:02:22points belonging to online marketplaces also seeing their share
00:02:26of the problem with fewer deliveries to those pickup.
00:02:30of locations because of fewer goods being available at those
00:02:34libraries marketplaces, as for the everyday life, certainly we
00:02:38can speak that there is some effect, but to this stage
00:02:41it is quite little because there are other online marketplaces such as
00:02:45ozone and yondex market, so there is the replacement,
00:02:49but this is also rining well for many of those
00:02:52marketplaces as to how they want to proceed with their logistics, where they
00:02:56want to store the goods, but for the ordinary russians what they see is
00:03:00the drones falling down naps
00:03:02of their houses pretty much a daily basis regardless of how close their
00:03:06region is to the border of Ukraine as well as
00:03:09of shattered windows, damaged cars and problems with insurances that they
00:03:13have endure as
00:03:14a result
00:03:15of the damage caused by those attacks. Before I let you go darsha, one
00:03:19of the biggest stories today is that Russia's oil facilities continue
00:03:23deep within
00:03:24of Russia continue being hit. Is this impacting Russia strategy at
00:03:28all? well indeed
00:03:31we've seen the yetas level oil refinery being
00:03:34in hit by the Ukrainian drones once again, the governor
00:03:36of the region has described this organite attack as the largest in months against
00:03:40the yeras level region, more than 92 Ukrainian drones were shot down and the
00:03:44yeras level or refinery is among the top five largest oil
00:03:48refunders in the country, we've seen the long lines at the petrol pumps
00:03:52across Russian regions recently this summer,
00:03:56but they are no longer
00:03:57in there, so the fuel restrictions and and
00:04:00and um
00:04:01of shortages have started
00:04:02of ease,
00:04:03in obviously the fear is that the situation may return and and not the dimension to
00:04:07this story is that how quickly the authorities have solved this problem? many
00:04:11wonder whether the authorities are now resorting to lower standard
00:04:15of petrol being used by the consumers
00:04:18of without them actually knowing what they
00:04:20of are buying, so these are the questions, but as for the ordinary russians they
00:04:24do fear that the situation may get worse even though we see that the
00:04:28Russian strategy is not changed. and the Russian president now making these
00:04:32reshuffles within the military and uh outlining that the
00:04:36drone task force will be separate
00:04:39a dimension, separate department within the Russian army that does
00:04:43signal that
00:04:44of Russia places lot of importance to this type of
00:04:47warfare. Got it, appreciate the reporting there
00:04:50das
00:04:51of in Moscow, thank you. Myanmar's
00:04:55leader is in Thailand on an
00:04:57a official visit as Bangkok pushes for re-engagement. with its wartour
00:05:00neighbor and asean, the regional block. Myanmar's leaders have been
00:05:04bad from ASEAN summit since the year 2021, when Min
00:05:08Aon Lang staged a coup against the elected government of Aon
00:05:12of Such. led to a civil war that killed and estimated 100
00:05:15thous people. Minus the subject of raft of western
00:05:19sanctions and has been seeking international legitimacy since becoming
00:05:23president april. It followed an election he won overwhelmingly
00:05:26by an army backed party in the absence of any
00:05:30viable opposition. Myanmar is on the path
00:05:34of democracy and heading towards a better future. As new government, we
00:05:38are currently working on prioritizing stability, peace and national
00:05:41reconciliation. Bangkok
00:05:45is seeking from Myanmar closer security cooperation along their
00:05:49shared border, many smuggling or human trafficking gangs shelters
00:05:53in Myanmar's border town so evade Thai authorities. Here's closer
00:05:57look at that. The UN says Myanwadi,
00:06:00mywadi, that's called a town in southeastern Myanmar
00:06:04has become a major cyber scam and human trafficking hub.
00:06:07Rickers are lured with fake jobs into industrial compounds and
00:06:11forced to run romance and cryptocurrency
00:06:15investment scams targeting victims around the world. in
00:06:18February last year Bankok cut electricity, internet and
00:06:22fuel to five minmar border areas and tightened
00:06:25checks helping to free about 500 people trapped in Myanmar
00:06:29scam centers. Rights groups estimate that more than
00:06:325,300 foreign nationals are still being held in four
00:06:35sites. Last month, Myanmar passed a law authorizing
00:06:39life imprisonment for operating a scam. center, yet the
00:06:43UN says the networks outpacing enforcement, also using
00:06:47artificial intelligence to expand after defrauding victims across the
00:06:51Asia Pacific, 88 billion dollars in
00:06:542025
00:06:55alone. from on
00:06:58this, Mangzani joins us
00:07:01from London, he is the co-founder of forces of
00:07:04renewable for Southeast Asia, an international unprofit alliance
00:07:08of human rights, campaigners and scholars. Thank you for your time.
00:07:13so so as we just heard Thailand says this visit is about tackling cross border
00:07:17crime and cyber scams, but kind of realistically
00:07:20cooperate with meanmar's leadership while parts the border remain
00:07:24outside the military's
00:07:25control? well, I
00:07:29think the the visit of a
00:07:33Myanmar military leader may our line to Thailand is
00:07:36deeply problematic uh for number of
00:07:40reasons, number one, Myanmar military
00:07:44is also connected with lot of
00:07:47transnational crime,
00:07:50drug trafficking and other units and and we have to remember
00:07:54the cyber scam centers are
00:07:58uh transnational networks run
00:08:02and Myanmar military alone is not soly
00:08:05responsible entire authorities uh other
00:08:09authorities across Southeast Asia including Maybe
00:08:13even Chinese authorities along the borders are
00:08:16involved and so I think that that is uh
00:08:20the the main issue uh
00:08:23concerning whether this can be addressed
00:08:27realistically between bilateral collaboration, but there's a
00:08:30deeper problem with Miowline's visit and Mayoline
00:08:34is a is one the top
00:08:38generals or the general that has international
00:08:41arrest. warrant issued by a court in
00:08:45Argentina a universal jurisdiction
00:08:48case uh similar to pinoshe case and
00:08:52interpol has that arrest warrant, it's like
00:08:56Netanyahu with arrest warrant by
00:08:58ICC and so the Thailand is
00:09:02rolling out red carpet to an international war
00:09:06criminal wanted by Argentinian
00:09:09court uh under universal jurisdiction. Secondly,
00:09:13Thailand is currently engaged a
00:09:16military conflict with another neighbor,
00:09:20Cambodia, and so Thailand promoting or claiming to
00:09:24promote peace in Myanmar through so-called
00:09:28calibrated engagement while bombing
00:09:31Cambodia and attacking Cambodian uh the villages
00:09:35along the border is really problematic. Those are two
00:09:39issues that need to be uh kept in this.
00:09:42spotlight and not uh not be marginalized
00:09:46in the interest of bilateral
00:09:49trade back to the scam centers though earlier this year
00:09:53thailand cut electricity, internet and fuel supplies to parts the
00:09:56border, have those measures made a real different difference or do
00:10:00you think the criminal networks just simply adopted
00:10:04- the the criminal networks have simply adapted
00:10:07and you know the i think these crime
00:10:11centers are not simply... run by mafia
00:10:14and because they are transnational crimes, all the
00:10:18neighboring state authorities are involved,
00:10:22i would i dare say some the the
00:10:25authorities in the security sector,
00:10:29immigration sector themselves can be
00:10:33reasonably assumed to be involved, not just the Myanmar, and so
00:10:36this is not to defend obviously Myanmar's role,
00:10:40Myanmar military is roled and also some the
00:10:44armed groups allied with Myanmar military,
00:10:48but to indicate that the problem is much
00:10:51more the regional. than
00:10:55just Myanmar or Thailand and there are cyber scam
00:10:59centers found a Cambodian uh Thai and
00:11:03Cambodian Chinese borders as well and so I think
00:11:06we really need to have serious
00:11:10and deeper look uh that rather
00:11:13than looking it as a bilateral issue. The more
00:11:17important issue is Myanmar military itself
00:11:21is one the greatest obstacles to uh
00:11:25you know cross border control as well as uh the
00:11:29peace in the country we have a situation similar
00:11:32to uh Syria under Assad
00:11:36the country was internally already
00:11:38dismembered and and that's a situation in Burma and
00:11:42Myammar military is currently
00:11:45embraced by the you know international giant
00:11:49states such as Russia uh India China
00:11:53and so I think like you know whatever Thailand is
00:11:56promoting uh is not going to make much difference, they
00:12:00already have acceptance what they are seeking
00:12:04is the regional acceptance, not just simply
00:12:07political legitimacy. okay, got to appreciate your
00:12:11time, thanks for your your comments
00:12:14there, thank
00:12:16you, well the European Union has held
00:12:20an informal meeting on Tuesday to discuss the mass influx of
00:12:24migrants and refugees into the Spanish enclave of Quetter and ways to
00:12:28strengthen border controls, the block outline plans to reinforce
00:12:31its borders, speed up the repatriation of
00:12:34undocumented migrants and refugees and provide additional
00:12:38support to Spain. More than 7000 undocumented people crossed
00:12:42into last week, triggering one of Spain's most serious
00:12:46crises in years.
00:12:50Katarina Glinadaki is a lecturer in public
00:12:53policy and administ. Ation the University of Southauthampton, she
00:12:57joins me live from Creet in Greece, professor, thank you
00:13:01so much for your time, so the EU
00:13:04says, yes of course, anytime, the EU says it wants
00:13:08stronger external borders, faster
00:13:11deportations, is there evidence though that these measures actually
00:13:15deter irregular migration or do they
00:13:19you think simply push people towards more dangerous
00:13:22routes? it just it
00:13:25seems intuitive that by investing more um in
00:13:29having more secure borders, investing in human resources and
00:13:32and more advanced technologies and paying more money for
00:13:36this would be effective in
00:13:40keeping people out, but that's not, we don't really have strong
00:13:44evidence of of this actually working in practice, on the contrary
00:13:48we see increase of numbers of people every year who
00:13:52are attempting to make these journeys to... to cross
00:13:55borders irregularly to to enter Europe, and we also
00:13:59see um increase of migrant deaths every year, I
00:14:03believe last year there were over 200 migrant deaths in the
00:14:07Mediterranean, so I think
00:14:11the the answer is more that it seems that more
00:14:15people are pushed towards more dangerous migration journeys and
00:14:19more people losing their lives
00:14:21um and trying to make those journeys happen, yeah I call the
00:14:25wording in the news the past week or two, but this latest
00:14:29influx of migrants on refugions, people saying that they felt
00:14:33safer during this time, more welcome, they felt it was more
00:14:36likely now to get into Europe, but Europe says
00:14:40it needs migrant workers, probably that was part the reason so many people went
00:14:44across because the European aging population,
00:14:48yet it's investing so much into keeping migrants and refugees
00:14:51out, um, it feels like the EU is trying to solve to
00:14:55contradicting problems at the same
00:14:58time,
00:15:01right? um, so there is, that's part of why the
00:15:05migration issue is very difficult issue to solve from a policy
00:15:08perspective, on the one hand,
00:15:12there are, we we know that there are large populations in other
00:15:16parts the world that where the living conditions
00:15:19are not as high as they are in Europe, their lives
00:15:23are harsher in ' their daily lives are harsher and so they have strong
00:15:27incentives to to cross the border. um, they also
00:15:31are becoming increasingly aware of this global
00:15:35inequality and the differences through. media, so they
00:15:38have this incentive, from the side of
00:15:42European leaders of course, they on the one hand,
00:15:46they want to project
00:15:48a picture of control borders and and show they
00:15:52have state soverenty and that is
00:15:54respected, but there's also, as you
00:15:58mentioned, huge problem in terms of labor shortages in
00:16:01different sectors the labor market, this in
00:16:05fact may in part may be to the global fertility
00:16:09rates in many countries in Europe, but also in in other
00:16:13countries outside of Europe, in part could be because of
00:16:17the changing economy and and its connection
00:16:20with education, but any case there
00:16:24are very significant labor sortages that need to be
00:16:27filled, which are not filled,
00:16:30and and so that is
00:16:33difficult not to crack essentially for lot of '
00:16:37European leaders and and that's why we see lot of
00:16:41phenomena where on the one hand there is ratoric of very
00:16:45strict very restrictive approach to migration
00:16:49um very strict control of it and then at the same
00:16:52time we quietly see some leaders um kind of opening
00:16:56the back door and allowing people to come as seasonal
00:17:00workers for instance or or having specific
00:17:04bilateral agreements between two different countries um one european
00:17:08and one third country to to allow people to come for fixed
00:17:11amount of time to fill those sorges, but still there it
00:17:15seems to me that there is room for further um for the increase
00:17:19the legal routes in terms of in order to
00:17:23solve those labor strategies. professor, i just have about one minute left with
00:17:26you, if tougher border controls and faster deportations have been
00:17:30discussed for years, why do you why do we continue
00:17:33to see repeated crises in places like cuatta?
00:17:37producer on the Greek Islands, although I suspect the answer might simply be
00:17:41to to find better life escape uh
00:17:45hurt, damage, death,
00:17:47perhaps. I mean, it's a very complicated question
00:17:51to answer in one minute, but I would say that is perhaps the number
00:17:54one - reason of why people
00:17:58continue to want to to cross the border and seek better lives.
00:18:02Um, global inequalities, as I mentioned earlier, increased awareness through social
00:18:06media are also. contributing to this of course,
00:18:10professor, thank you so much for your time with this, professor catalina, appreciate it, thank
00:18:14you, thank
00:18:15you,
00:18:22before we get to sport with charlot, we let's bring in William Denslow, he's in
00:18:26brucels, william, hi there, williams, good seeing you, just give us an up to date in
00:18:30terms of what's happening at meetings at this point in
00:18:32time,
00:18:36yeah, absolutely, well we... person Markus Brune, Magnus Brune,
00:18:40the commissioner in charge of migration related
00:18:44issues at the European Commission, addressing uh members the European
00:18:48Parliament in this emergency meeting to discuss
00:18:51uh the situation in Sweet and essentially he's delivered a verdict,
00:18:55he's described almost as a stress test uh for the European
00:18:59Union, he says that they certainly passed, he said that was evidenced by
00:19:03the fact that over 70,000 people within this...
00:19:07for around 24 hours had returned back into Moroccan
00:19:11territory, however he said that this was a far from perfect, it
00:19:15certainly doesn't mean that there's not room for improvement. he
00:19:18said uh he commended Spain for their approach
00:19:22to ensure that no people that regularly crossed
00:19:26this border into Spanish territory on
00:19:29north Africa cross into the Shengen uh
00:19:33zone here in Europe uh and he
00:19:37said that more will be done going forward, he said really touching a
00:19:40few key issues that the European Commission has raised when it comes to closer
00:19:44cooperation with 30 party nations, including Morocco going
00:19:48forward, he says that these are vital, but he says that they can't be solly
00:19:52reliant on efforts from other parties as well, that is why the
00:19:55EU is looking into other measures it can take, including cracking
00:19:59down on these criminal smuggling networks that EU
00:20:03officials have blamed for the crisis we saw unfold last.
00:20:07in sweater and william, what role is morako playing in managing
00:20:11this?
00:20:15absolutely, well that's crucial role going forward,
00:20:19and uh, essentially what we're hearing from EU
00:20:23officials is that this is something they're looking to collaborate on further, they
00:20:27say there is an opportunity considering the fact that in the wider
00:20:30context the EU and Morocco currently are
00:20:33negotiating closer partnership agreement and
00:20:37Bruno saying that this issue of migration ties very closely
00:20:41in with that as well, so there are certainly
00:20:44hopesuh that Morocco as well as European
00:20:48Union at large - can continue to work on this issue
00:20:52to ensure that situations like this, crises like this don't
00:20:56evolve going forward. that has been concerned by
00:20:59representatives on suweter who have described essentially hostal
00:21:03relationship uh with Moroccos they described in this meeting going
00:21:07on with MEPs, they say that they need from the EU more
00:21:10resources when it comes to um physical barriers, they
00:21:14say they need more personnel, more equipment going forward, so certainly a degree of
00:21:18unease from official. was in towted, but for the EU, very
00:21:22promising signs that they believe there is more coordination that can be had with
00:21:26Morocco. William, thank you, that's William Dansle
00:21:28in process.
00:24:20the in last
00:30:09Iran and Oman reach an understanding over the straight of hora moves
00:30:13agreeing on coordinates for safe transit route.
00:30:17Hello, welcome to TRT World, live from Istanbul, with me, Neil
00:30:20Harvey. Also, this hour, Israel intensifies
00:30:24attacks on southern Lebanon, despite an existing cease fire
00:30:28and ongoing peace talks now into a third day in Rome.
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00:30:37President Zelensky appeals to allies an urgent attempt to secure
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