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00:00:00three years after the October 7th attacks on Israel, human
00:00:03tragedy continues to unfold in Gaza, while one year of
00:00:07so-called ceasefire, delivers ever larger
00:00:11of occupation, plus, elections in Brazil push Latin America's biggest country
00:00:15ever closer to President Trump. We'll have that and much more on our
00:00:19newsmaker's week in review.
00:00:22of Defying the polls, Brazil's far right Flavio Bolsonaro took the lead
00:00:26in a first round vote, but with more than 30 million abstention.
00:00:30the second
00:00:30me round could still be up for grabs. three
00:00:34years since the October 7th attacks on Israel, Gaza remains
00:00:38under siege. with almost the entire population internally displaced
00:00:42aid workers say Israel is asphixiating the
00:00:45territory and trapping people within its yellow
00:00:49of
00:00:49of line. and one year after US spacked ceasefire was implemented in
00:00:53Gaza, is there any real peace to speak
00:00:56of. I'm Andrea Sanki, and this is the newsmaker.
00:01:00We can
00:01:00review,
00:01:17last Sunday, more Brazilians refuse to vote than
00:01:20in any other election since 1998.
00:01:22of That says a lot since voting is mandatory, so it's obvious that
00:01:26millions don't want to support any candidate, but... like it or not, they're
00:01:30now stuck with choosing between two polar opposite platforms.
00:01:34now the polls had indicated that the left would prevail and that the far
00:01:38right's tactic to lean
00:01:40of into President Trump and alleged foreign influence would ultimately
00:01:43of costted votes. it didn't, and now the one thing that could change the
00:01:47second round outcome are those 30 million voters who
00:01:50abstained. here's a
00:01:52of look. brazil's 2026 election didn't
00:01:56produce
00:01:56of of an outright winner, but it did produce a surprise.
00:02:00result, right-wing candidate
00:02:02of Flavio Bolsonaro came out in front, beating left-wing
00:02:07a incumbent Louis Nasio de Silva or Lula by slim
00:02:10margin. The two now head to second round
00:02:14a vote on October 25. I am
00:02:18genuinely very happy with the result we have just seen here. Nearly
00:02:2256 million Brazilian men and women have given us this fort
00:02:26of confidence for change. The word is change.
00:02:31of opinion polls ahead
00:02:34of the election had predicted
00:02:36in tight race that would move to second round, but had
00:02:39generally favored de silva to come out in front in
00:02:43a crowded field of 12
00:02:45candidates, the result is
00:02:48unexpected, we never get everything we want, though must admit that
00:02:52was convinced i was going to win on the first round. in
00:02:55brazil, voting is mandatory for
00:02:58of all literate citizens but between the age of 18 and 70
00:03:02and voluntary for those older than 70. Unlike
00:03:05trends in most other western
00:03:08of democracies, older voters and senior citizens in Brazil tend to
00:03:12skew heavily to the left, and polling suggests
00:03:16they favor Lula for creating social safety nets,
00:03:20but this election has
00:03:21of created a noteworthy wave of voter apathy, and both
00:03:25De Silva and Bolsonaro now face something uncommon in
00:03:29most democracies.
00:03:30has trying already to mobilize and motivate the
00:03:33senior vote, brazil now presents its citizens a
00:03:37stark choice between two very different men and two
00:03:41very different served
00:03:43who as president for three non-consecutive
00:03:46terms. he is widely credited as bolstering social
00:03:50programs, lifting millions out of poverty and encouraging
00:03:54young people to stay in education longer, but
00:03:57critics point to not enough done. crime or to improve
00:04:01the costs of living fast enough. For many, Flavio
00:04:05Bolsonaro's toughest stance on tackling crime, cutting taxes
00:04:09and a more
00:04:10of liberalized and less regulated economic agenda, hold
00:04:14broad appeal. Will Lula manage to
00:04:18convert the momentum of
00:04:20in incumbency of into an outright win or will Bolsonaro
00:04:24transform the energy of a surprise first round
00:04:27victory into
00:04:28of a right-wing resergeant. For the largest country in
00:04:32Latin America, the results won't just affect
00:04:35Brazil, but the wider region and the
00:04:39world. Now, we can't
00:04:41of predict exactly what will happen over the next two weeks, but most
00:04:45a calculate that the supporters of smaller candidates who lost in the first round,
00:04:49will hand their vote to Flavio Bolsonaro. I asked the executive
00:04:53director
00:04:53of the Stone Center for Latin
00:04:55of American studies at Two Lane University, Anthony Pereira, if it's that
00:04:58simple. It's not quite that simple, I think there are voters for
00:05:02Ranan Santos for
00:05:03of example, and and Kuuri who could end up voting for Lula
00:05:06of rather than Flavio, but it's a very uphill battle, as
00:05:10of far as I know, and and the Brazilians... can correct me if I'm wrong about
00:05:14this, since the 1989 election, no candidate
00:05:17has come second in the first round and won the second
00:05:21round,
00:05:23I would expect that lot these voters who voted for the minor
00:05:26candidates will migrate to Flavio, and you can see in the
00:05:30bankadas, the new the new Congress, how strong the
00:05:34right-wing parties are, so I think it would take some
00:05:37big change in perceptions for Flavio not to win in
00:05:41the second round. "let ask Leonardo then, because i assume
00:05:45this this result was a surprise outcome for you, as it as it was for your
00:05:49president, so what are you reading into this
00:05:53result, what went wrong in Lula's campaign?
00:05:56well, I'm not sure that something went wrong with
00:06:00campaign. I think that there that there was a
00:06:03tendency uh, that expressed
00:06:06itself a little bit harder than the
00:06:09president assumed, but for..."
00:06:12instance - managerized the state
00:06:16where I'm speaking from and a state that is
00:06:19considered the very true vote every
00:06:22president since 2002 one in
00:06:26min the election in order to be
00:06:30president and Lula came short 5%
00:06:33here but the fact the matter is Lula has had
00:06:37problems here in Depete had problems here in
00:06:412018. and Lula has had problems
00:06:44into 2022, for you
00:06:48just to have an idea if we look into the
00:06:52vote the three largest cities, San Paulo Rio
00:06:56and Bellizonci, Bellizonci was the worst
00:06:59performance of Lula uh yesterday,
00:07:03Lula won in the city of São Paulo and came
00:07:07short 3% the vote in the city of
00:07:10Rio, we're not speaking about. states, we speaking about
00:07:14cities, so Lula had a problem in
00:07:18Belluzont in min, real was the
00:07:22biggest surprise in terms of polls, why?
00:07:26because the last polls on Saturday, they
00:07:30forecast the candidate that Lula was
00:07:33supporting with the nine point
00:07:36points lead, and he lost for approximately
00:07:40seven points, so this... a 16 point difference that
00:07:44is really surprising, but then we
00:07:48we need to look into the areas controlled by militias
00:07:52and organized crime in Rio that might explain
00:07:56this change that the poles could not
00:08:00see, so Lula's campaign right
00:08:03now needs to go for those who are for
00:08:07Lula and did not
00:08:08vote.
00:08:14"Well, it's been three years since one horrific tragedy in
00:08:18Israel led to another, when the October 7th attack sparked a
00:08:22genocidal war. Before that day, Gaza had been under Israeli
00:08:26occupation, considered an open-air prison by the United
00:08:29Nations, and most agreed something would eventually have to
00:08:33give. Over the last three years, we've seen what reaching that inevitable
00:08:37tipping point has meant, aside from the unfathomable loss of life
00:08:41and mass destruction. Gozans are being squeezed into ever
00:08:45smaller space and left ever more dependent aid for
00:08:49basic survival. Here's a look now at the human tragedy,
00:08:52that is Gaza. October 7 began with
00:08:56attack Israel weren't prepared for and an
00:08:59onslot a scale, Gaza could not
00:09:02escape. Hamas fighters killed around
00:09:051200 people and took 251
00:09:08hostages. Israel began bombing gaza with an
00:09:12hours three years later, Israeli
00:09:16attacks have killed more than 74,000
00:09:18Palestinians, roughly one in every 30 people who
00:09:22lived in Gaza before the war. Around 80% of
00:09:26Gaza's structures are damaged or destroyed, and
00:09:30almost the entire population has been
00:09:32displaced. Almost half the population
00:09:36survives on less than 6 liters of water a day, less than
00:09:40a third the emergency minimum. All hospitals have been
00:09:44damaged, only some are operating, non at full
00:09:47capacity, as shortages of medicines, equipments and
00:09:51fuel restrict
00:09:52treatment. There is
00:09:56major humanitarian crisis in the Gaza strip amit a tight
00:10:00Israeli siige, limited entry of humanitarian
00:10:03aid, medical supplies and food supplies,
00:10:07and near total destruction of infrastructure. Children are
00:10:11not going to school in. said they are
00:10:13in the destroyed streets trying to find water,
00:10:17and for children, another measure the war is
00:10:20time. nearly every school has been damaged or
00:10:23destroyed. Hundreds of thousands of children have now
00:10:27missed almost three years of regular classroom
00:10:30education. The seasfire was meant to bring the war to an
00:10:33end almost a year ago, but more than
00:10:371400 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli
00:10:40forces since it took effect. Israeli military
00:10:44control and access restrictions now cover roughly two-thirds
00:10:48of Gaza, leaving more than 2 million Palestinians
00:10:51concentrated into what remains. and
00:10:55as Palestinians are squeezed into less of Gaza, very different
00:10:59vision for the territory is gaining ground on Israel's fire
00:11:03right. Israel's national security minister Itamar
00:11:06benguir is already campaigning a very different future for
00:11:10Gaza, one built around what he calls the voluntary
00:11:14emigration of most of its palestinian population.
00:11:18the idea is gaining wider attraction among the countries far
00:11:21right. we want settlement.
00:11:34Wherever we have settlements, there is security. For
00:11:37Palestinians still there, even securing enough food remains
00:11:41uncertain, more than half the population faces acute
00:11:44hunger with humanitarian agencies warning that the
00:11:48aid entring Gaza remains
00:11:50insufficient.
00:11:54My baby daughter. died of malnutrition because there was no baby
00:11:57formula, her name is a list that no one looks at, they are
00:12:01just names and numbers, we are just
00:12:04numbers. October 7 began an offensive,
00:12:07Israel set was aimed at Hamas. Three years later,
00:12:11tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed,
00:12:15families torn apart and much the infrastructure that
00:12:19sustained daily life destroyed. Most the population
00:12:22remains displaced, israel. attacks continue despite a
00:12:26seas fire, much the territory remains under Israeli military
00:12:30control or restrictions, and Gaza is already
00:12:34living through the aftermath of war, it has yet to see
00:12:37end. so there has been some sort of progress and
00:12:41acknowledging the atrocities committed against Gaza, mostly through
00:12:45public opinion, but also at official levels. more western countries
00:12:49have agreed to recognize the Palestinian state, and some have finally
00:12:53taken action against illegal Israel settlements. I asked
00:12:56Palestinian activist Hudaifa Ahmad whether he's been
00:12:59impressed by the change attitude. I
00:13:03wouldn't say I was impressed with anything
00:13:07with regard to the change of attitude. Palestinians have paid a horrific price over the last three
00:13:11years, and
00:13:12so I'm very, very careful with how I talk about what has changed in the last three
00:13:16years, but if we wanted to accurately assess where we are
00:13:20so far, as I feel the ramifications the Domino
00:13:23Effect have yet to... fully materialize, I think we need to see
00:13:27where Israel stood on October 6th,
00:13:312023. Israel was advancing regional normalization, the
00:13:34occupation continued, settlements continued expanding, veza remained
00:13:38blockaded, and the international
00:13:42community thought that this trajectory could be
00:13:45managed indefinitely while Israel normalized its position in the region, and
00:13:49Palestine receeded further into the background, and October 7th
00:13:53shattered that equilibrium. and when you look at where we are
00:13:56today, across 36 countries surved by pew this year a median of
00:14:00roughly two-thirds show Israel unf
00:14:03unfavorably now um countries that had resisted recognizing
00:14:07palestine for decades including uh Britain, France, Canada,
00:14:10Australia, now recognize the Palestinian state,
00:14:14still what has yet to happen,
00:14:18we're still uh seeing unfold um this position where
00:14:22everyone's trying to play some sort of middle ground. between
00:14:25what has happened to Palestinians with regard to this genocide and the state that has carried it
00:14:29out is quite frankly untenable and things are going to get more
00:14:33and more precarious as governments and
00:14:37officials continue to try to play this untenable middle
00:14:41line up there's you know the the
00:14:45progress and i put that in quotes because some people refuse to call
00:14:49it progress at all um but the fact that there has been some
00:14:53recognition of atocities committed and the fact that
00:14:57many
00:14:58have have said this is genocide by definition, it hasn't equated
00:15:02to action on the ground, and it really seems as as
00:15:06Romy especially was describing, and you had alluded to few
00:15:09Israelis feel their military is doing
00:15:13anything other than defending Israel, so
00:15:17how can the escalation and suffering really
00:15:21be stopped? it's a very good question.
00:15:25and I'm not sure I have a great answer, I mean the obvious answer
00:15:29is that there has to be serious international pressure and
00:15:33action, and obviously that hasn't
00:15:36come so... "you know, we can continue to call for it,
00:15:39but if it doesn't come, then what, what else can we do? um, so that's a
00:15:43challenge to anybody who's trying to recommend serious
00:15:47policy change, and and
00:15:49what is the theory of change for Israeli behavior, um,
00:15:53but I do think that we shouldn't underestimate the fact
00:15:57that the some the actions, for
00:16:00example, the UK, not the ban on trade with settlements, but
00:16:04for example, the threat to institutions..." banks,
00:16:08construction companies, if that does go through, that is
00:16:12something that would be, would have an
00:16:15impact on the Israeli setlement enterprise, it would have to be
00:16:18comprehensive, it would have
00:16:20to be consistent, but I don't think that we should underestimate that
00:16:23we're in going
00:16:24in that direction, and part the paradox or the
00:16:28kind of irony of this election on October 27th
00:16:31in Israel is that both the coalition and the
00:16:34opposition are very much on the right,
00:16:37and I don't... expect a huge change even if Netanyahu is pushed
00:16:41out, but if Netanyahu remains, I think
00:16:44that will push for international pressure even more, and it
00:16:48would be, I mean, we've seen a lot of things happen
00:16:52that we can't believe the international community didn't take more action,
00:16:56but I think that that would mean that that there would have to be much more
00:17:00severe action, whereas if new government is in, I
00:17:03think similar to the cease fire in Gaza, that would suddenly lower the...
00:17:08the the flames of pressure and you could have a
00:17:11counterproductive effect,
00:17:12basically.
00:17:19well, this weekend marks one year since the US backed Gaza peace
00:17:23plan was introduced, and many are questioning if there is anything to
00:17:27show for it. Israel is still firing, killing more than
00:17:301,400 people since the ceasefire took hold, and Hamas
00:17:34has yet to disarm. contradicting President Trump and August, the Israeli
00:17:38prime minister actually said he rejects the proposal and
00:17:41outright refuses to withdraw. Meanwhile, reconstruction plan,
00:17:45spearheaded by Trump's board of peace, has now been whitled down to
00:17:49a small pilot camp near Raffa. Here's closer look now at what the
00:17:5320 point peace plan has actually
00:17:55delivered. A year ago, there was
00:17:59finally some hope that the war between Israel and Hamas
00:18:03was over. A US-Backed ceasefire was announced alongside.
00:18:08the formation the board of peace, new
00:18:11international organization to promote peace building
00:18:14around the world. with us president donald
00:18:18trump self-appointed as the board's president for
00:18:21life, his gaza peace plan promised to transform
00:18:25gaza, but one year on that
00:18:28transformation exists on paper only.
00:18:32we are extremely worried with the situation
00:18:35that is taking place. of all we recognize the
00:18:38efforts, namely of Mr. Mladenov, in
00:18:42order to advance the two stages the
00:18:46peace plan that was
00:18:47elaborated, and it is
00:18:51clear that Israel as
00:18:54not accepting the
00:18:57implementation the peace plan as it is conceived
00:19:00now, and at the same time we go on having strikes
00:19:04in Gaza, and we go on having
00:19:37To sum up, no one is victorious in this war. On the
00:19:41Israeli front, Hamas is still present in Gaza. It remains
00:19:45a de facto government and continues to oversee the security
00:19:49situation in the Gaza strip. On Hamas front, Israel has
00:19:52occupied approximately 70% the Gaza strip.
00:19:56Assassinated senior Hamas leaders destroyed Gaza's
00:19:59infrastructure and killed thousands of civilians
00:20:02and the
00:20:05technocratic. governing body appointed
00:20:09to oversee and govern gaza has not been able to
00:20:13enter gaza, nor the proposed international
00:20:17stabilization force. on the 23rd of september,
00:20:21the board of peace announced six-month
00:20:242.5 billion dollar
00:20:26plan to begin rebuilding gaza, though officials
00:20:29acknowledged it may not be implemented as Israel and
00:20:33hamas remain at odds over a US-backed. by a
00:20:37plan, our goal is to get through the next stage of
00:20:41actually moving from planning implementation, and of course our discussions
00:20:45with Israel right now are not easy because the elections there
00:20:49everything. is a little bit more emotional, a little bit more
00:20:52politically sensitive. A year on, more than 1,400
00:20:56Palestinians have been killed since the October
00:21:002025 ceasefire, according to Gaza Health
00:21:03Authorities, and more than 1.2
00:21:07million still face acute hunger, when attempting to
00:21:11point out concrete, tangible achievements made by the board of
00:21:15peace in Gaza today, it's difficult to point
00:21:18to anything. the ground at
00:21:21all, so
00:21:25according to US officials, the peace plan is working, but
00:21:28Hamas has not handed over its weapons and Israel publicly
00:21:32announced it rejects the plan and will not withdraw, so
00:21:36what is the measure of progress? I put that first to president the US Middle
00:21:39East Project, Daniel Levy. well, I think
00:21:43you said something very important just now, Andrea, because I do think it is working
00:21:47on American Israeli terms. doing precisely
00:21:51what it was intended to do, it got the Israeli hostages out, it took
00:21:55international attention away, we're told there's a cease fire, doesn't
00:21:59matter that 1400 Palestinians have been killed subsequently because their
00:22:03lives we have been shown for the last three years and for decades preceeding that in
00:22:07other ways uh do not have the same value uh it
00:22:10has done important things as far as the US and Israel would be
00:22:14concerned in terms of sidelining the United Nations, it
00:22:18is United Nations
00:22:22Security Council Resolution 2803, which was about
00:22:25getting the ceasefire in place, that created the board of
00:22:29peace and gave it the institutional imprimateur the
00:22:33United Nations, so this has been a very important step in undermining international
00:22:37law, undermining the UN, a privatizing and putting
00:22:41for profit, which is something we're very used to with this administration, attempts to do
00:22:45that at least, the provision of services, the plans for reconstruction,
00:22:49it has made. sure that there can be no accepted palestinian governance,
00:22:53so a series of metrics that makes
00:22:56sense for us complicity an
00:23:00Israeli plan to continue a zero some
00:23:03eradicationist policy towards the palestinians, the last year has been a great
00:23:07success, and and Zaha, Washington is insisting
00:23:11again, it's it's plan and the board of peace, they've
00:23:15said this, they will work and they are working
00:23:19according to the...
00:23:20in the spirit of commercial diplomacy, so
00:23:24that if they build for development and economic opportunities,
00:23:28somehow everyone will be pragmatic, they'll they'll
00:23:32forget the recent as well as the historic past
00:23:35grievances, and they'll move forward. could that ever be
00:23:39true? this is new phrase
00:23:43for me, commercial diplomacy, mean what it looks
00:23:46like is a grab.
00:23:50by President Trump and a group of
00:23:54billionaires that he's a massed around him to
00:23:57capitalize on the destruction of Gaza and
00:24:01create some sort of riviera as as he once
00:24:05referred to it in in the strip and to be honest with you
00:24:09the one thing that is moving forward it's not relief and reconstruction uh
00:24:12to support Palestinians and to rebuild their
00:24:16their homes
00:24:17their communities what is moving forward are
00:24:21plans for the confiscation of Palestinian
00:24:23land. There are documents being drafted about
00:24:27how to seize private property in Gaza as we
00:24:31speak. Um, the board of peace in one of
00:24:34its three unpublished
00:24:38resolutions that have been reported on by the
00:24:41Guardian, has
00:24:45um indicated that public facilities, public property,
00:24:49all of it... will be,
00:24:50you know, could be seized by the board of peace, that's
00:24:54that's around 35% of Gaza, the rest is
00:24:58private property, and all the development plans,
00:25:02this master plan that we've seen
00:25:05touded by Jared Kushner at Davos
00:25:09and in Washington at the US Institute for
00:25:12peace, um, these require the mass
00:25:15displacement of Palestinians, they require
00:25:19' Palestinians being hurded up and set into
00:25:23smaller enclaves, while the strip gets
00:25:27redeveloped for investors and for business
00:25:30interests, all the assets of Gaza, the
00:25:34land, the the gas reserves, all the
00:25:38assets are to be swooped up into a
00:25:41trust that will become uh at the
00:25:44end the uh
00:25:47uh the UN Security Council resolutions. expert date
00:25:51for for uh its endorsement the board of peace, at the end of
00:25:54that it will be basically Trump's private property
00:25:58in in this trust that he's creating so...
00:26:02Commercial diplomacy is euphemism, I would
00:26:05say, what it is is grand
00:26:08theft, and there you have the best of our newsmakers for
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00:29:52A deadly attack on Riod Airport kills at least 12 people
00:29:56and injures more than 300 including Saudi and US
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00:30:04Live from Istanbul with me John Paul Davis, also ahead on the
00:30:07program, Donald Trump calls for a
00:30:11leadership change in Ukraine after President Zelensky criticized
00:30:15his move ease sanctions on Russian
00:30:18diesel, thousands march across
00:30:22five continents a coordinated day of global action in
00:30:25solidarity with Palestinians
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