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00:00:15world hello, a you're a watching TRT World, I'm Emily Angwin, he's a reminder of
00:00:19our main stories, at least 12 people have been killed and more than
00:00:23300 injured in attack on the king colored international
00:00:26airport in rehad. Saudi Arabia has
00:00:29claim the ansara huti group in neighboring Yemen, they have been
00:00:33in launching attacks on Riyad in recent weeks, but have yet to claim
00:00:37responsibility for this particular strike. Pakistan's prime minister
00:00:41Shibaz Sharif who joined Turkia in signing the Mecca defense pact
00:00:45in August, is calling it a heinous attack. Donald
00:00:48Trump is weighing up a US
00:00:51response. I think it's
00:00:53terrible, well you're going to find out, see, but
00:00:57I think it's terrible. are saudis able to
00:01:01defend themselves without? well, they're able to defend. look, the saudis are
00:01:05good fighters, but I think the attack was terrible
00:01:08thing. a state of emergency has been imposed in the
00:01:12Pakistan province of Pactunqua. the government has also
00:01:16replaced the provincial head with a state-appointed governor. the
00:01:20province is the stronghold
00:01:22of the PTI party of jailed former prime minister Imran Khan. the
00:01:25move comes after days of protest by Khan supporters who had one
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00:01:32of The of Polish government is holding emergency meeting amid reports, the prime
00:01:36minister and his deputy were the target of an assassination
00:01:39plot. Senior ministers, police and security officials are
00:01:43in discussions in Warsaw.
00:01:46of Police say they received information on Saturday about a possible
00:01:49of attack on Donald Tusk and his deputy, who's also the defense
00:01:53of minister.
00:01:55of Donald Trump says it's time for Ukraine to get new president. It
00:01:59follows. criticism from his Ukrainian counterpart a US
00:02:02diesel deal with Russia. Valodimir Zelenski has called
00:02:06the move weak and warned it
00:02:08of will only help Russia's war. The deal is expected to lead to the
00:02:12immediate release of
00:02:13of more than 300 thousand tons of Russian diesel with more
00:02:17to come in the months ahead. In
00:02:21India, the cockroach protest movement leader Abit Dipky has been
00:02:25released from detention with two other senior leaders
00:02:27of on Sunday.
00:02:29of They of were arrested. Saturday along with thousands of others who took to the
00:02:32streets calling for the resignation
00:02:34of the country's election chief. Protesters accused him of
00:02:38side-stepping rules. That's all from me. Stay tuned now
00:02:41for goodbye for now for inside
00:02:45America. Thank
00:02:46you.
00:02:58On this episode of Insider. America, we ask, has
00:03:02the US forgotten Gaza? I've
00:03:05followed politics here
00:03:07of for 40 years, it's never been like it is today in
00:03:11terms of American public opinion. A shift has already happened, when his
00:03:14promise during the campaign, I'm going to fix this on day one, has he delivered on
00:03:18of that? He did not delivered on
00:03:19that, of course, exactly, his promise, but he just has, he didn't renig on his
00:03:23promise, he just fulfilled
00:03:27of the facility, has the Trump administration of achieved something that previous administrations have been unable to achieve, I think. They have, which is what?
00:03:31I think they have established the basis for a state for
00:03:34Palestinian people. Hello and welcome to the show, I'm
00:03:38Selena Downs and
00:03:39of today I'm joined by the Democratic strategist Richard Gidsten and the political writer
00:03:43Peter. In moment, we'll be debating whether
00:03:47America has forgotten Gaza. Donald Trump's
00:03:50peace plan has stalled and the Iran war has diverted lot of
00:03:54political and media attention, but polls show
00:03:58historic levels of public support. for
00:04:01of Palestinians. I put this to Robert Mally, a Middle East expert who served
00:04:05under Presidents Clinton, Obama, and Biden, he's also
00:04:09co-author of Tomorrow is Yesterday, a book about the
00:04:12pursuit of peace between Israel and
00:04:15Palestine. One
00:04:17of the paradoxes of everything that's happened from October 7th onwards is
00:04:21that militarily
00:04:22of Israel has sold been more dominant, more capable of
00:04:26projecting its power than that, but it's more capable than.
00:04:30It's been in the past, politically, in terms of its international reputation, it is really
00:04:34had such a
00:04:34in low standing in its history, particularly
00:04:36in the US, I'll come back to it. I think you could reverse the case that the
00:04:40Palestinian cause has rarely been
00:04:44of as universally not endorsed, but at least
00:04:47as strong university as it is today, the Palestine National movement has
00:04:51rarely been as weak as it is today, and that's the paradox that we're living
00:04:55through, now I've followed politics here for
00:04:5940 years. um, it's never been like
00:05:02it is today in terms
00:05:03in of American public opinion, the shift in the younger generation is
00:05:07unprecedented, the poll numbers are
00:05:10incontrovertible, I mean that's the of all the change if you want to look for one
00:05:14change that should bring hope to those who are
00:05:17still longing for a peaceful settlement,
00:05:20self-determination for the palestine people, the shifting in public opinion
00:05:24here, which is yet to fully manifest itself at the political
00:05:28estation, but you're already seeing, look at the debates among political
00:05:31candidates on the democratic side, it's who's going to accept money from apac and who's not going
00:05:35to accept money from apac, is conditioning aid aid
00:05:39to to Israel or military sales to Israel has become a
00:06:12think is the right answer, given the political earthquake that
00:06:16has shaken the public opinion. so why the
00:06:20disconnect between the public opinion uh
00:06:24and the policy making? there's always been a lag. the
00:06:27question now is whether that lag is going to be very quickly filled, but
00:06:31because we're seeing such mobilization in the democratic base. mean
00:06:34the elections here in new york, mayor mamdani, we'll see what happens to the senator
00:06:38elections in michigan, another true bellweather barometer. the state
00:06:42of political opinion a shift has already happened and the
00:06:46rhetoric of of candidates and political leaders has already
00:06:49changed. the question is, and I'm talking about the democratic side, the question is, how
00:06:53far will that go, and how quickly will, if ever the political
00:06:57establishments catch up with where their bases. why do you take such
00:07:01a cynical view the two-state solution? listen, it's been
00:07:04i was part the cynical industry, if you will, the industry
00:07:08that was a pretend industry. it's been how many decades now?
00:07:12that we have one American leader and often European leaders saying our
00:07:16priority is to get two-state solution, we want two-state solution, and while
00:07:20they were saying those things, everything on the ground was moving in the
00:07:24opposite direction. it became the argument that US and other leaders used to
00:07:27say, oh, let's not mobilize uh, the
00:07:31boy, let's not allow boycots, let's not allow the palestinis to go
00:07:35to international institutions, to go to the ICC, to go to the ICJ, to
00:07:39declare their own state, because all of that, is
00:07:43going to interfere with this process which is supposed to lead to two-state
00:07:46solution, which was not leading anywhere at all, and I'm not against two-state
00:07:50solution, but describe to me how we're going to get from here to there
00:07:54and how you're going to overcome the obstacles that you were unable to to overcome a time when they
00:07:58were much lower, much
00:08:00less uh uh much less of an obstacle
00:08:04to two solution than they are today, so if you have that plan, if you have that road
00:08:07map, feel free to describe it, but otherwise what you're saying is
00:08:11just words. but so is it the framework that's a failure or is it
00:08:15that the framework was allowed to fail? was it the lack of political will behind it? was it
00:08:19passivity? listen a minimum,
00:08:22so the most elemental explanation
00:08:25is the status quo, continue
00:08:28occupation, or even worse the entrancement the occupation has served Israeli
00:08:32interest. if there's no pushback, if there's no price for them to pay,
00:08:36if it's a cost-free occupation, if the palestinian authority is trying to take care
00:08:40of security more or less. 'if the west is and Arab world
00:08:44is paying for the occupation, if nobody is taking any action
00:08:47against Israel, why should Israel change course? mean it really is for me
00:08:51the blame, mean Israel has made its choice, it's an understandable choice, we
00:08:55could we could lament it, but it's a choice that makes sense from their
00:08:59perspective, right? and the united states has been complicit in that, there's always been an asymmetry
00:09:03about question,
00:09:03the question is why the us, why europe and why others have
00:09:06not put match the their actions with their words, they say they want
00:09:10two-state solution, which is not where the events'. were leading and they were not
00:09:13prepared to make Israel pay any price
00:09:17for uh
00:09:18the the course it was on. if the United States wanted to truly compel
00:09:22Israel um to comply
00:09:24with UN resolutions on
00:09:25the 1967 borders on East Jerusalem, it could. it
00:09:29is possible if the US had shown greater symmetry in its
00:09:33pressure, greater understanding the political realities on both
00:09:36sides. it was at least possible that you could have had two-state outcome, whether
00:09:40it would have been a solution, how long it would have lasted that? different question, but you certainly were not
00:09:44going to get there if you're not prepared to put any pressure, if you're prepared to be, as you
00:09:48say, complicit in Israeli actions, if you are taking steps
00:09:52to prevent the Palestinians from organizing in other ways, preventing other countries,
00:09:56whether the Arab or European from playing role or undermining palestinian
00:10:00leadership and then turning around
00:10:01the leadership, making sure that other country could play a role in
00:10:05this process, then by definition it was going to, it was bound
00:10:09to fail, again whether they could have succeeded with different That's
00:10:13an open question,
00:10:14but today given how far we are from where
00:10:16we were before, I think everything has to be rethought, the
00:10:20objective, who are the parties at the negotiating table, because we need parties that
00:10:24have real presentation, real legitimacy, real credibility with their
00:10:28considerance whether the palestin or is ready, who the mediators are going to be, is it just
00:10:32the United States, should Arab countries come in? I mean, all that at this point, because
00:10:36as I said, we're so far from any outcome, any solution that's agreed to by the two
00:10:39sides, why not take the time to put everything on the
00:10:43table and to ask the fundamental questions that we basically have not answered since
00:10:471993, we've we've been in
00:10:49this one way path, this peace process, which led us
00:10:53not just to an impass. it led to October 7th and to Israely
00:10:57offsaw that followed? I mean, one thing, another thing that has come out
00:11:00of uh the events of October 7 is the Gaza border
00:11:04peace and President Trump's
00:11:08plan for for peace in Gaza. Um, I'm interested to
00:11:11get your thoughts on that.
00:11:13I mean, currently obviously it has stall between phases. There
00:11:16continues to be a symmetry there as well, because there are, demands on
00:11:20Hamas to disarm, Hamas says it won't disarm until Israel withdraws, Israel
00:11:24says. that won't withdraw until the plan
00:11:28itself is ice saw, it is, outrageous in its
00:11:31asymmetry, mean it is demanding that one side pay amens for the
00:11:35masker of october 7th without asking the israelis to
00:11:39do anything in to pay for what the
00:11:42massacers, the the on what a number of international
00:11:46jurists have now called a genocide, but no accountability for them, accountability for the
00:11:50Palestinians, the palestinians have to reeducate themselves and and
00:11:54and reform. themselves no reform is ass the palace the the
00:11:57Israelis, it basically enshrines and validates continued Israeli
00:12:01occupation of at least 50% of gaza,
00:12:05etc. etc. so i could go through chapter and verse of how this
00:12:09plan was you know a a
00:12:13fundamentally flawed biased plan that did not
00:12:17in any way um reflect palestine interest,
00:12:20palestine need, palestine interest and and and palestine rights, but
00:12:25did one thing which the byden administration was had been unable to do, which is to reach a cease
00:12:28fire, and even though people would
00:12:32question what kind of ceasefire it is when palestines are being killed every day, it
00:12:36was better than at the height the onslot that Israel was
00:12:40waiting, so you got to give that much credit at all if anything to
00:12:44um to the Trump administration for having achieved in and for having put some
00:12:47pressure, some pressure on Israel to to agree to that, but since then what
00:12:51have we seen, and what we've seen basically is attempt.
00:12:55to reduce the palestine question to humanitarian question, can we
00:12:59make their lives a little bit better, can we get a little more humanitarian goods
00:13:03in, but the the political question of palestine
00:13:07is the attempt is to bury it right, and there's no
00:13:11recognition that it's a political problem, that the what's happening in Gaza is a
00:13:15political decision, what's happening
00:13:16in the west bank is a political decision, and that there are political aspirations that are being
00:13:20completely trampled as we speak. Robin Mally, thank you for talking to
00:13:24TRT. Thank you, we also talked to
00:13:28Palestinians in Gaza about this, do they feel forgotten by
00:13:32America? They are exploiting
00:13:36the crisis in Gaza, because no one is standing with us
00:13:39and Gaza means nothing to America, we
00:13:43were just a card used to help Trump in the election,
00:13:47nothing more. America is the sponsor the war
00:13:51on Gaza and one the main supporters providing the weapons used. kill
00:13:55children, women and the elderly, and to completely destroy
00:13:59Gaza. It is doing this to serve its own interests and external
00:14:03agendas and the interest of those seeking to bring an end to
00:14:06Gaza. America acts in its own interests,
00:14:10yet when Trump came to power, the war stopped, but his
00:14:14entire policy is in Israel's interest, not ours.
00:14:17America is in the region only to protect Israel, nothing
00:14:21more. It claims that
00:14:24it is helping us. providing aid and standing with us, but
00:14:28no, they have not kept their promises, perhaps it is
00:14:32because of other political considerations, such as the war with Iran
00:14:35or
00:14:36their other wars in the middle east, I don't know, there are policies
00:14:40and agendas that no one really can
00:14:42understand,
00:14:47forgotten us completely, look at the
00:14:49America has crossings, they're all closed, there's no life here, no food aid, and no drinking
00:14:53water, there is a blocade. and every day people are being killed
00:14:57and bombed, just last night two buildings were bombed, how long is
00:15:00this going to continue? this is our life now, america is not thinking about
00:15:04us, it forgot about us and look at the
00:15:08situation the people in gaza, everyone is living in tent
00:15:12and we are heading into winter while the war is still
00:15:15ongoing. israel is carrying out
00:15:18strikes, they say there is sess fire, but i don't
00:15:22see any fire. So onto
00:15:26today's debate, with me is the Democratic strategist Richard Goodsteen, a
00:15:30former advisor to the Clintons,
00:15:32and Peter Roff, a contributing editor and columnist at Newsweek. Welcome to you
00:15:36both. Thank you. um, Peter, if I can start with you,
00:15:40has the US uh forgotten Gaza, has the Iran
00:15:44war shifted the focus the administration?
00:15:47uh, forgotten Gaza, just because it's off the front
00:15:51page doesn't mean it's forgotten, but in America we
00:15:55have tendency to confuse the urgent with the important, and right
00:15:58now uh, Iran, straight of horm,
00:16:02uh, red sea exits for Saudi Oil, and the
00:16:05elections all seem more... urgent and worthy of
00:16:09coverage than Gaza. Richard,
00:16:11do you agree? So I would say it's kind of one hand on the other.
00:16:15Remember, Donald Trump said he was going to solve the war in Gaza on day
00:16:18one. So here we are, these many years,
00:16:22almost two years after his presidency started, doesn't seem like a real
00:16:26solution is at hand whatsoever. On the other
00:16:30hand, within democratic politics for sure, and I think
00:16:33increasingly more in republican politics this notion of where do...
00:16:37stand, what's the solution? i think those are actually going to be fairly front
00:16:41burner as the 2028 presidential election starts, so i
00:16:45think it's it's not really um off the, it's off
00:16:49the front burner now, it will be, think a front burner issue, i would say
00:16:53six months
00:16:54from now, peter, president trump's uh gaza peace plan
00:16:57appears to have stalled, we're finding um
00:17:00there was a lot of public discourse,
00:17:02there are a lot of high-level meetings being held here in the aftermath
00:17:06of october. seven, but it seems now that the peace process has
00:17:10stalled, humanitarian assistance uh appears to be
00:17:13severely severely restricted. um, how
00:17:17is the administration going to navigate this path forward for Gaza? well, fortunately, I
00:17:21think the administration has the support the other countries that signed the
00:17:25document. uh, they're closer, they're more
00:17:28neutral, uh, they're better able to observe, and I think they will be
00:17:32expressing their opinion, but I'm not sure at all that the process has
00:17:35stalled. um, "it was going to be difficult, there were
00:17:39going to be fits and starts, there's still the issue of disarming hamas to be
00:17:43dealt with, and until Himas is is is dissolved and
00:17:47disarmed, or disarmed and dissolved will probably be the way it will
00:17:51have to work, um, I'm not sure you can fully get to the
00:17:54vision of what's um, what the peace plan
00:17:58laid out, uh, which is the best thing for all Palestinians, and
00:18:02it's important to remember that Hamas doesn't represent all the Palestinian
00:18:06people. I mean, spoke to Robert Mali about this, there is asymmetry
00:18:10in the way that Hermas is being asked to disarm and uh
00:18:13demilitarize, give up its we weapons, but there is no pressure on the
00:18:17Israeli side
00:18:18to do so. Correct, look, I think remember there was this whole
00:18:22board of peace, the all these countries that paid big money
00:18:25into one Trump organization after another, and signed
00:18:29something that proported to be some commitment to
00:18:32whatever. I will say, speaking for myself, I thought that was always
00:18:36fantasy, um, this... notion that they were going to get Hamas to
00:18:40disarm when their whole purpose was to
00:18:44basically uh eradicate Israel as a Jewish state
00:18:47seem preposterous until they have something that
00:18:51feels like a commitment to two-state solution um I
00:18:55I I just think and I don't think the Palestinians have that
00:18:59certainly Hamas doesn't I don't think Israel does either you
00:19:03certainly don't hear that from President Trump or his administration anymore I mean
00:19:07we have. seen an incredible change in public discourse here, um,
00:19:11we have seen an outporing of support for Gaza, for the state of
00:19:15Palestine, we have seen recognition the state of Palestine coming from
00:19:18150 plus countries now, just how has that shifted in
00:19:22the United States, is that unprecedented in in terms of what you have seen over
00:19:26the decades? I mean, it's certainly new, I mean, if you would pull people decades ago
00:19:30between their support for Israel versus Palestine, such as it
00:19:34was, it would be fairly imbalanced in favor of Israel. That's now
00:19:38shifted, and honestly I fault the Netanyahu government
00:19:41for so overplaying its hand, after October 7th,
00:19:45there was
00:19:46so much sympathy for Israel, from that
00:19:50point on, and the fact that the response has been what it's
00:19:53been, it would almost take work for Israel to be as discredited
00:19:57worldwise as it is by virtue of how Netanyahu
00:20:01was kind of totally botch things, so again I think this will be a
00:20:04big factor in the democratic. nomination
00:20:08process, i think that
00:20:11whoever's going to be the ultimate winner of that process is going to be somebody who's going to
00:20:15have to speak to the interest of those who want
00:20:19a palestinian state without walking away from Israel,
00:20:23which is fine line to walk, but i think it's walkable, but it's going to
00:20:26take
00:20:27some some deft kind of politics. how much of
00:20:30influence do you think gaza is having on the mid-terms? do you
00:20:34think that democrats and republicans having to navigate? shifted public
00:20:38discourse uh, i think it's having a huge influence a couple of
00:20:41races, couple of marqui races like the senate race
00:20:45uh in Michigan, but I do think what this does is sets
00:20:49up an... opportunity
00:20:50for the Republican Party to broaden its appeal to um the
00:20:54Jewish American electorate uh, which frankly doesn't vote on
00:20:58Israel, if you're if you're an American voter who votes on
00:21:02Israel, you're probably already republican. if you're republican
00:21:06voter who votes on social and economic issues, you've been voting with the
00:21:09liberal party, but now that the liberal
00:21:13party, the democrats are being
00:21:17uh, i don't know what the right word is, taken over over. run uh the influence
00:21:21of people who support Hamas and the Palestinians is increasing among the
00:21:25party that's a fantasy look if you watch Fox News if you watch right
00:21:29white right-wing sources you think that somehow these democratic
00:21:32socialists these hamos sympathizers and so forth are taking over the democratic party
00:21:36because that's what you want to think you can't accept the fact that with
00:21:40very very very
00:21:43except here's
00:21:47the answer to that Peter um the... the squad,
00:21:50Aoc, Bernie, they have yet to flip a single seat
00:21:54ever from red to blue. They've never gotten seat going from Republican
00:21:58Democrat, the the moderates, the new democrats have done that to
00:22:01fairly well dozens and dozens and dozens of times, the the the
00:22:05new democratic caucus in Congress is is the largest
00:22:09congress, it's the largest caucus among House Democrats, the squad is
00:22:13minuscule, so
00:22:15I think they're flipping blue seats, they're flipping their own
00:22:18seats, the... they're engaged in the cleansing the democratic
00:22:22party, no, these they're going from from blue to kobalt blue,
00:22:25great, congratulations, but they're not doing anything to make the democrats a
00:22:29stronger, more kind of dominant party in congress and I think
00:22:32everybody other than Bernie and AOC realizes that, but at the moment I
00:22:36don't think they care, I think what they care about is purifying the party, we
00:22:40watch the Republicans go through this in the 80s and 90s with the with
00:22:44the um inculcation of Christian conservative
00:22:47activists who insisted that the Republican party become officially the
00:22:51pro-life party in the abortion debate, and they were flipping red
00:22:54seats, they were flipping red seats in red states to change the nature
00:22:58the base in congress so they could go out and win national elections, and I
00:23:02think that's this is phase one of what the Democrats are doing, and that once they've
00:23:06locked in the socialist positions, and they've locked in the foreign policy
00:23:10positions that say
00:23:11we are pro- palestine, we are anti-Israel, uh,
00:23:15that
00:23:15it is going to change the direction the party, the platform the party and...
00:23:20going to change the American electorate? yeah, the reason i would strongly disagree with that is the
00:23:23following: imagine in Israel where Netanyahu is not in charge,
00:23:27imagine in United States were Trump's not in charge. imagine we had a
00:23:31Bill Clinton and a Shamon Perez or a Yidsak
00:23:35Rabin, what this antipathy that we now see, and it's
00:23:38i agree, it's real for Israel,
00:23:42that changes because Netanyahu is so mismanaged
00:23:46things and Trump has so sucked up to him and vice versa. do you think that?
00:23:50administration has gaza strategy to know it's all talk they
00:23:53look, i think they do do a couple different things, they send people who
00:23:57were not steeped in diplomacy, trump
00:24:01son-in-law, jared kushner, his buddy steve witkof to negotiate all the things whether it's
00:24:05Russian Ukraine and guys, they're making no headway with any of that stuff, okay so
00:24:09they sent the C team, not not even the a or b
00:24:12team um and then they kind of hoped
00:24:15that they can just bamboozle people and talk, they said were professional
00:24:18negotiators, guys know how to do deals,
00:24:22diplomats don't know how to do deals, diplomats know how to what they shown peter,
00:24:26wait tell me if you think when his promise during the campaign, i'm going to fix
00:24:30this on day one, has he delivered on that? he did not deliver on that, of course exactly cuuse he's got
00:24:34these these in, but he also hasn't cut a bad deal, he hasn't let the diplomats
00:24:38cut a bad deal like
00:24:39on his promise but he just has, he didn't renig on his promise, he just failed to fulfill it,
00:24:43and politicians, remember if you like your healthcare you can keep it,
00:24:47politicians fail to keep their promises all the time. "We accept that, that's part the
00:24:51American political dynamics. Remember, read your lips, we accept that, but
00:24:55he sent real negotiators, hard nose guys who know how to cut deals.
00:24:59Has the Trump administration achieved something that previous administrations have been
00:25:03unable to achieve? I think they have, which is what? I think
00:25:07they have established the basis for a state, for Palestinian
00:25:11people, that no president has been able to do before that. The two-state
00:25:14solution was nice idea created by diplomats. I think it's dead arrival,
00:25:18I think we ought to stop talking." about it, I think it's a multi-state solution, I
00:25:22think the west bank may become its own country, it may become several countries,
00:25:26they will eventually have a place that they will
00:25:28be able to call home, but it's not going to be something that we decide
00:25:32for them, it's going to be something that they decide for themselves, the two state
00:25:36solution fail because the framework was a failure or because the
00:25:40process or the political will behind it was a failure, I think because the framework a
00:25:44failure, you you can't have one country divided by another country,
00:25:48and you were either going to have palestine.
00:26:02basically killing and and terrorizing locals,
00:26:06Palestinians, is atrocious. I, I, I think that
00:26:10to a certain a large extent, the reason that there are so many people in the US
00:26:13who who are now siting with the
00:26:16Palestinians, is less about Gaza, and more about what they're
00:26:20seeing in the West Bank, and I think the fact
00:26:24that Trump has green lighted uh Netanyahu building
00:26:28all these settlements, is horrible, and is making matters worse, it's going
00:26:32to make it... the ability to deliver, I think that I think that, I'm sorry, I think
00:26:35that's a drop a bucket, I think that the biggest change has been the way
00:26:39Israel's prosecution of its defense after it was attacked by
00:26:43Hamas was covered, um, the Palestinian said
00:26:46genocide, and the New York Times said, okay, well a UN commission
00:26:49also
00:26:50has concluded it was genocide, and once
00:26:54again
00:26:55the UN proves doesn't what it's talking about, and it's useless. um, moving on, I want to know,
00:26:59do you think this will continue to be a partisan wed in US?
00:27:02politics uh, the Israel palestine conflict,
00:27:06um, you mentioned looking ahead to the 2028 election, we
00:27:10talked about obviously the midterms, do you think this will continue to be a
00:27:14partisan divide? we saw um, we saw recently
00:27:17house democrats tried to um prevent
00:27:21the weapons and the aid going to Israel, about
00:27:25100 house democrats, more
00:27:26than 100 house democrats, one republican voted to do that, it
00:27:30obviously failed, when can we
00:27:32see the... United States stop sending weapons assistance to
00:27:35Israel? I think that the United States is committed
00:27:39to Israel being a Jewish state and being able to defend
00:27:43itself. I i don't, I think that's fairly unshakable. So
00:27:47do I think will we stop giving them as opposed to selling them
00:27:50weapons?
00:27:51I don't think we're going to see a day where that stops. However, they're going to get
00:27:55help the United Israel's going to get help from the United States,
00:27:59but here's how it's going to play out, if the populist wing in either party. "the
00:28:03JD Vance wing in the Republican Party or the Bernie Sanders Aoc wing in the
00:28:07Republican Party wins the White House after 2028. I think the
00:28:10US relationship with Israel changes fundamentally and perhaps
00:28:14irreparably. Um, there's a lot of anti-Israeli
00:28:18sentiment in both of those wings of both parties. It
00:28:21it, it, it's more dominant and sometimes on the right, it's more dominant,
00:28:25sometimes on the left, but it's it's there, and unfortunately it's always going to be
00:28:29there, just like it's there in every country around the world."
00:28:32Okay, thank you to you both, Peter Rof, Richard Goodsteen, always appreciate
00:28:36you to coming in, it's great to hear your views and thank you for watching,
00:28:40join us next time for the next episode of Inside
00:28:43America.
00:29:08"I heard the stories the pains of how people were tortured in these places,
00:29:12I never believed it until I saw, and when I saw I couldn't unsee
00:29:16it. It's so important for people to
00:29:18understand colonization in order to understand what's happening in the
00:29:22world, and here in
00:29:24in in Palestine, it's, it's happening
00:29:27now, so how does the world
00:29:31completely turn the?"
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