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00:00:02a
00:00:15of The Saudi Led coalition in Yemen say its
00:00:18of forces intercepted and destroyed a ballistic missile in the early hours
00:00:22of Monday.
00:00:23in It was fired by the
00:00:24a hoothies towards the city of Kametz Musat. On Sunday, a
00:00:28projectile hit Riyad's main airport killing one person, whilst on
00:00:32Saturday 13 people were killed when a projectile hit the same
00:00:36airport. The Houthies have claimed responsibility for this
00:00:39strike. Israeli forces have continued
00:00:43bombing the Gaza strip
00:00:44a on Sunday, killing at
00:00:45of least four people. That is as the Israeli military expands
00:00:49its so-called yellow line in the east of Gaz City. On
00:00:53Saturday, attack on the Shazhair area
00:00:55of injured two Palestinians, dozens of Palestinian families
00:00:59already. displaced were forced to flee again, following advances by the
00:01:03Israeli military. US president Donald
00:01:07Trump says
00:01:08of Russia and Ukraine have agreed to halt strikes on each other's energy
00:01:12infrastructure. That comes two days after Trump himself struck
00:01:15deal with Russian president Vladimir Putin to buy large quantities
00:01:19of diesel. The Polish interior
00:01:23of minister says the man who threatened and planned to attack prime minister
00:01:27Donald Tusk has been arrested. police say they had
00:01:31received information about a possible plot to assassinate
00:01:35Tursk and his deputy, who is also the country's defense
00:01:38minister. A state of emergency
00:01:42has been imposed in the Pakistan province of
00:01:44Kaibapaktunqua. The government has also replaced the
00:01:48provincial head with a state appointed governor. The province is the
00:01:52stronghold
00:01:54of the PTI party of jailed former prime minister Imran
00:01:58of Khan. They blocked all the roots by placing
00:02:01containers. Why have the roots been blocked? The public
00:02:05of voted for them. Where is democracy? Who is not implementing the
00:02:08constitution? Look here, wherever the constitution is not being
00:02:11implemented, you should get it implemented. Why are you humiliating the
00:02:15of public? And in India, the leader
00:02:19of the cockroach protest movement, Abijit Dipker has been
00:02:22released from detention along with two other senior leaders. They were
00:02:26arrested on Saturday with thousands of others who took to the
00:02:29of streets calling for. the resignation
00:02:32a of the country's election chief, and the news continues on
00:02:36TRT
00:02:40of World.
00:02:42of
00:02:54of of three years after the October 7th attacks on Israel,
00:02:57of human tragedy continues to unfold in God. while one year of
00:03:01so-called ceasefire delivers ever larger
00:03:04occupation, plus, elections in Brazil push Latin America's
00:03:08biggest country, ever closer to President Trump. We'll
00:03:11of have that and much more on our newsmaker's week in review.
00:03:15Defying the polls, Brazil's far right Flavio Bolsonaro took the
00:03:19lead
00:03:19in a first round vote, but with more
00:03:22of than 30 million abstentions, the second round could still be up
00:03:26for grabs. Three years since the October. the
00:03:30attacks
00:03:30me on Israel, Gaza remains under siege. With almost the entire
00:03:34population internally displaced aid workers say Israel is
00:03:38asphixiating the territory and trapping people within its yellow
00:03:42line. And one year after US spacked ceasefire
00:03:46was implemented in Gaza, is there any real peace to
00:04:11Last Sunday, more Brazilians refuse to vote than
00:04:13in any other election since 1998, that says a lot since
00:04:17voting is mandatory, so it's obvious that millions don't
00:04:21want to support
00:04:22of any candidate, but like it or not, they're now stuck with choosing between
00:04:26two polar opposite platforms. Now the polls had indicated. that
00:04:30the left would prevail and that the far rights tactic to lean into
00:04:34President Trump and alleged foreign influence would ultimately costted
00:04:37votes, it didn't, and now
00:04:40of the one thing that could change the second round outcome are
00:04:43of those 30 million voters who abstained. Here's a
00:04:46look. Brazil's 2026 election
00:04:49didn't produce an outright winner, but it
00:04:52of did produce a surprise result. Right-wing candidate
00:04:56of of Flavio Bolsonaro came out in front, beating.
00:05:02of
00:05:12genuinely very happy with the result we have just seen here, nearly
00:05:1656 million brazilian men and women have given us this
00:05:19vote of confidence for change, the word is
00:05:23change, opinion
00:05:26polls ahead the election had predicted tight race
00:05:30that would move to second round, but had generally favored
00:05:34de silva to come out in front in crowded field of
00:05:3812 candidates,
00:05:43we never get everything we want, though I must admit
00:05:46that I was convinced I was going to win on the first round. in
00:05:49Brazil, voting is mandatory for all literate
00:05:52citizens between the age of 18 and 70, and
00:05:56voluntary for those older than 70. Unlike trends
00:06:00in most other western democracies, older voters and senior
00:06:03citizens in Brazil tend to skew heavily to the
00:06:07left and polling suges they favor Lula for
00:06:11creating social. safety nets, but this election has created
00:06:15a noteworthy wave of voter apathy, and both to
00:06:19silva and Bolsonaro now face something uncommon in most
00:06:22democracies, trying to mobilize and motivate
00:06:26the senior vote. Brazil now presents
00:06:30its citizens a stark choice between two very different
00:06:34men and two very different political futures.
00:06:3780-year-old incumbant and veteran of Brazil's left,
00:06:41Lula de Silva. Who has already served as president for
00:06:44three non-consecutive terms. He's widely
00:06:48credited as bolstering social programs, lifting millions
00:06:52out of poverty and encouraging young people to stay in
00:06:55education longer. But critics point to not enough done
00:06:59to tackle crime or to improve the costs of living fast
00:07:03enough. For many, Flavio Bolsonaro's tougher
00:07:06stance on tackling crime, cutting taxes and a more
00:07:10liberalized and less regulated. under economic agenda hold
00:07:14broad appeal. Will Lula manage to
00:07:17convert the momentum of incumbency into an outright
00:07:21win, or will Bolsonaro transform the energy of
00:07:25a surprise first round victory into a right-wing
00:07:29resurgence. For the largest country in Latin
00:07:32America, the results won't just affect
00:07:35Brazil, but the wider region and the
00:07:39world. Now, we can't predict exactly what... will happen
00:07:43over the next two weeks, but most calculate that the supporters of smaller
00:07:46candidates who lost in the first round will hand their vote to
00:07:50Flavio Bolsonaro. I asked the executive director the Stone Center for
00:07:54Latin American Studies at Two Lane University, Anthony Pereira, if it's that
00:07:58simple? It's not quite that simple. I think there are voters for
00:08:02Renan Santos,
00:08:03for example, and and kudi who could end up voting for Lula, rather than
00:08:07Flavio, but it's a very uphill battle, as far as I know,
00:08:10and and the Brazilians correct me if I'm wrong about
00:08:13this, since the 1989 election, no candidate
00:08:17has come second in the first round and won the second
00:08:21round, um, I would expect that lot these
00:08:24voters who voted for the minor candidates will
00:08:28migrate to Flavio, and you can see in the bankadas, the new, the new
00:08:32congress, how strong the right-wing parties are,
00:08:36so I think it would take some big change in
00:08:39perceptions for Flavio not to win in the second round. "let
00:08:43ask Leonardo then, because
00:08:45i assume this this result was a surprise outcome for you as it as it was
00:08:49for your president, so what are you reading into this
00:08:52result, what went wrong in Lula's campaign?
00:08:56well, I'm not sure that something went wrong with this
00:09:00campaign, I think that there that there was a
00:09:02tendency uh that express
00:09:05itself a little bit harder than the
00:09:09president assumed, but for..."
00:09:12instance - minasera
00:09:15is the state where I'm speaking from and a state that is
00:09:19considered the break through vote every
00:09:22president since 2002 won in
00:09:26min the election in order to be
00:09:30president and Lula came short 5%
00:09:33here but the fact the matter is Lula has had
00:09:37problems here in the PT had problems here in
00:09:412018. and Lula has had problems
00:09:44into 2022, for you
00:09:48just to have an idea if we look into the
00:09:52vote the three largest cities, São Paulo Rio
00:09:56and Bellizonci, Bellorizonci was the worst
00:09:59performance of Lula uh yesterday, so
00:10:03Lula won in the city of São Paulo and came
00:10:07short 3% the vote in the city of
00:10:10Rio, we're not speaking about. speaking about
00:10:14cities, so had a
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00:10:21min, real was the biggest surprise in terms of.
00:10:25why? because the last post on
00:10:27saturday they forecast the
00:10:31candidate that Lula was supporting with
00:10:35nine point points lead and he
00:10:39lost for approximately seven points, so this is a
00:10:4216 point difference that is really
00:10:46surprising, but then
00:10:48we we need to look into the areas controlled by militias
00:10:52and organized crime in Rio de might explain
00:10:56this change that the poles could not
00:11:00see, so Lula's campaign right
00:11:03now needs to go for those who are for
00:11:07Lula and did not
00:11:08vote.
00:11:14well, it's been three years since one horrific tragedy in
00:11:18Israel led to another when the October 7th attack sparked
00:11:22a genocidal war. before that day, Gaza had been under Israeli
00:11:26occupation, considered an open-air prison by the United
00:11:29Nations, and most agreed something would eventually have to
00:11:33give. Over the last three years, we've seen what reaching that inevitable
00:11:37tipping point has meant, aside from the unfathomable loss of life
00:11:41and mass destruction, gazons are being squeezed into ever
00:11:45smaller space and left ever more dependent aid for
00:11:49basic survival. Here's a look now at the human tragedy, that is
00:11:52Gaza. October 7 began with
00:11:56attack Israels weren't prepared for, and an
00:11:59onslot a scale, Gaza could not escape.
00:12:03Hamas fighters killed around 1,200 people and took
00:12:07251 hostages. Israel began
00:12:11bombing Gaza within hours. 3 years
00:12:15later, Israeli attacks have killed more than 74,00
00:12:18Palestinians, roughly one in every 30 people who
00:12:22lived in Gaza before the war. around 80% of
00:12:26Gaza's structures are damaged or destroyed and
00:12:30almost the entire population has been
00:12:32displaced. Almost half the population
00:12:36survives on less than six liters of water a day, less
00:12:40than a third the emergency minimum. All hospitals have been
00:12:44damaged, only some are operating, non at full
00:12:47capacity, as shortages of medicines, equipment and
00:12:51fuel restrict treatment and
00:12:55There is major humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip amit a
00:12:59tight Israeli siege, limited entry of humanitarian
00:13:03aid, medical supplies and food supplies and
00:13:07near total destruction of infrastructure. Children are
00:13:11not going to school, instead, they are in the destroyed streets
00:13:14trying to find water. And for children, another
00:13:18measure the war is time. Nearly every school
00:13:22has been damaged or destroyed. Hundreds of thousands of
00:13:26children have now missed almost three years of regular classroom
00:13:29education. The seasfire was meant to bring the war to an
00:13:33end almost a year ago, but more than
00:13:371400 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli
00:13:40forces since it took effect. Israeli military
00:13:44control and access restrictions now cover roughly two-thirds of
00:13:48Gaza, leaving more than 2 million Palestinians
00:13:51concentrated into what remains. and
00:13:55as Palestinians are squeezed into less of Gaza, very
00:13:59different vision for the territory is gaining ground on Israel's fire
00:14:03right. Israel's national security minister Itamar
00:14:06Benguir is already campaigning a very different future for
00:14:10Gaza, one built around what he calls the voluntary
00:14:14emigration of most of its palestinian
00:14:16population. The idea is gaining wider attraction
00:14:20among the country's far right.
00:14:24We want settlement. in Gaza, what brought about the events of October 7
00:14:28was the lack of settlement there. If there were settlements in Gaza, such
00:14:32massacre would be prevented. Wherever we have settlements, there is
00:14:35security. For Palestinians still there, even
00:14:39securing enough food remains uncertain. More than half the
00:14:43population faces acute hunger with humanitarian
00:14:46agencies warning that the aid entering Gaza remains
00:14:50insufficient.
00:14:54My baby daughter. diet of malnutrition because there was no baby
00:14:57formula, her name is a list that no one looks at, they
00:15:01are just names and numbers, we are just
00:15:03numbers. October 7 began an offensive,
00:15:07Israel set was aimed at Hamas, three years later,
00:15:11tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed,
00:15:15families torn apart and much the infrastructure that
00:15:18sustained daily life destroyed, most the population
00:15:22remains displaced, israel continue
00:15:24attacks despite a cease fire, much the territory
00:15:28remains under Israeli military control or
00:15:31restrictions, and Gaza is already living through the
00:15:34aftermath, of war, it has yet to see.
00:15:37and so there has been some sort of progress and
00:15:41acknowledging the atrocities committed against Gaza, mostly through
00:15:45public opinion, but also at official levels: more western countries
00:15:49have agreed to recognize the Palestinian state, and some have finally taken
00:15:53action against illegal Israeli settlements. I asked Palestinian
00:15:57activist Hudaifa Ahmad whether he's been impressed by the
00:16:00change attitude. I wouldn't
00:16:04say I was impressed with anything with the... to the change of attitude,
00:16:08palestinans have paid a horrific price over the last three years, and so I'm very,
00:16:12very careful with how I talk about what has changed in the last three
00:16:15years, but if we wanted to accurately assess where we are
00:16:19so far, as I feel the ramifications the dano
00:16:23effect have yet to fully materialize, I think we need to see
00:16:27where Israel stood on October 6th,
00:16:302023. Israel was advancing regional normalization, the
00:16:34occupation continued, settlements continued expanding, veza remained
00:16:38bloccaded um and the international
00:16:41community thought that this trajectory could be
00:16:45managed indefinitely while Israel normalized its position in the region and
00:16:49palestine receeded further into the background and october 7th shattered
00:16:53that equilibrium and when you look at where we are today
00:16:57across 36 countries surved by pu this year a median of roughly
00:17:00two-thirds show Israel unf unfavorably
00:17:04now um countries that had resisted recognizing for
00:17:07decades, including Britain, France, Canada, Australia,
00:17:11now recognize the Palestinian state, still
00:17:15what has yet to happen, we're still
00:17:19seeing unfold, this position where everyone's
00:17:22trying to play some sort of middle ground between what has happened to
00:17:26Palestinians with regard to this genocide, and the state that has carried it out, is quite
00:17:30frankly untennable and things are going to get more and more
00:17:34precarious as governments and officials
00:17:38continue to try to play this untenable middle
00:17:41line and my job, there's you know the the
00:17:45progress and i put that in quotes because some people refuse to call
00:17:49it progress at all, but if the fact that there has been some
00:17:53recognition of atrocities committed and the fact that
00:17:56many have have said this is genocide by
00:17:59definition, it has equated to action on the ground,
00:18:03and it really seems as as Romy especially was describing, and
00:18:07you had alluded to few Israelis feel their
00:18:11military is doing anything other than defending
00:18:14Israel, so how can the
00:18:18escalation and suffering really be
00:18:21stopped? it's a very good
00:18:24question, and I'm not sure I have a great answer. I mean, the
00:18:28obvious answer is that there has to be serious international
00:18:32pressure and action, um, and obviously that
00:18:35hasn't
00:18:37come, um, so... we can continue to call for it, but if it doesn't come, then
00:18:41what what else can we do? so that's
00:18:43a challenge to anybody who's trying to recommend serious
00:18:46policy change and and what is the theory
00:18:50of change for Israeli behavior, but do think that
00:18:54we shouldn't underestimate the fact
00:18:58that the some the actions, for example the UK, not
00:19:02the ban on trade with settlements, but for example the threat
00:19:05to institutions, construction companies,
00:19:09if that does go through,
00:19:11that is something that would be would have an
00:19:14impact enterprise, it would have to be
00:19:18comprehensive, it would have to be consistent, but I don't think
00:19:22that we should underestimate that we're in going
00:19:24in that direction, and part the paradox or the
00:19:28kind of irony of this election on October 27th in Israel
00:19:31is that both the coalition and the
00:19:34opposition are very much on the right, and I don't... expect a huge change
00:19:38even if Netanyahu is pushed out,
00:19:42but if Netanyahu remains, I think that will push for
00:19:46international pressure even more, and it would be, I mean,
00:19:50we've seen a lot of things happen that we can't believe the
00:19:54international community didn't take more action, but I think that that would
00:19:57mean that that there would have to be much more severe action, whereas
00:20:01if new government is in, I think similar to the cease
00:20:05fire in Gaza, that would suddenly lower the... the the flames
00:20:08of pressure and you could have a counterproductive
00:20:12effect,
00:20:12basically.
00:20:19well, this weekend marks one year since the US backed Gaza
00:20:23Peace plan was introduced, and many are questioning if there is anything
00:20:26to show for it. Israel is still firing, killing more than
00:20:301,400 people since the ceasefire took hold, and Hamas
00:20:34has yet to disarm. contradicting President Trump and
00:20:50pilot camp near Rafa. Here's closer look now at what the 20 point
00:20:54peace plan has actually delivered.
00:20:58A year ago, there was finally some hope that the war
00:21:01between Israel and Hamas was over. A US-backed
00:21:05ceasefire was announced alongside the formation the
00:21:09board of peace, new international organization
00:21:12to promote peace building around the world.
00:21:16With US president Donald Trump self-appointed. as the
00:21:20board's president for life, his Gaza peace plan promised
00:21:24to transform Gaza, but one year
00:21:27on that transformation exists on paper
00:21:31only. We are extremely worried with the situation that
00:21:35is taking place. First of all, we recognize the
00:21:38efforts, namely of Mr. Mladenov, in
00:21:42order to advance the two stages the
00:21:46peace plan that was elaborated and
00:21:50it is clear that Israel
00:21:54is not accepting the implementation
00:21:58the peace plan as it is conceived now and at the
00:22:02same time we go on having strikes in Gaza and we go
00:22:06on having serious threats to the civilian population in
00:22:09Gaza. Israel now controls around
00:22:12two-thirds the territory in Gaza. Instead of
00:22:16pulling back to an agreed upon yellow line would
00:22:20control only around 50%. Israel
00:22:23pushed the yellow line deeper into gazan
00:22:27territory. millions of gazans are displaced
00:22:31and live in cramped tent cities amid rubble being
00:22:34cleared around them. to sum
00:22:38up, no one is victorious in this war. on the Israeli
00:22:41front, hamas is still present in Gaza. it remains de
00:22:45facto government and continues to oversee the security situation in the
00:22:49Gaza. on Hamas front, Israel has occupied
00:22:53approximately 70% the gaza strip, assassinated
00:22:57senior hamas leaders destroyed Gaza's infrastructure and
00:23:01killed thousands of civilians
00:23:02and the
00:23:06technocratic palestinian governing body
00:23:08appointed
00:23:10to oversee and govern gaza has not been able to enter
00:23:13gaza, nor the proposed international
00:23:17stabilization force.
00:23:19On the 23rd. the board of peace announced simonth
00:23:23$2.5 billion plan to begin rebuilding
00:23:27Gaza, though officials acknowledged it may not
00:23:31be implemented as Israel and Hamas remain at
00:23:34odds over a US- backed Sicefire plan. Our
00:23:38goal is to get through the next stage of actually moving from
00:23:42planning implementation, and of course our discussions with Israel right now are not
00:23:46easy because the elections there everything. is a
00:23:50little bit more emotional, a little bit more politically sensitive. A year
00:23:54on, more than 1,400 Palestinians have been
00:23:58killed since the October 2025
00:24:01ceasefire, according to Gaza Health Authorities,
00:24:05and more than 1.2 million still face
00:24:08acute hunger, when attempting to point out concrete,
00:24:12tangible achievements made by the board of peace in Gaza
00:24:15today, it's difficult to point to anything on.
00:24:20ground at
00:24:21all, so
00:24:25according to US officials, the peace plan is working, but
00:24:28Hamas has not handed over its weapons and Israel publicly
00:24:32announced it rejects the plan and will not withdraw, so what
00:24:35is the measure of progress? I put that first to president the US Middle
00:24:39East Project, Daniel Levy. Well, I think you said
00:24:43something very important just now, Andrea, because I do think it is working on
00:24:47American Israeli terms. doing
00:24:50precisely what it was intended to do, it got the Israeli
00:24:53hostages out, it took international attention away, we're told there's
00:24:57a cease fire, doesn't matter that 1400 Palestinians have been killed
00:25:01subsequently because their lives we have been shown for the last three years
00:25:05and for decades proceeding that in other ways do not have the same
00:25:09value uh, it has done important things
00:25:12as far as the US and Israel would be concerned in terms of sidelining the United
00:25:16Nations, it is
00:25:20United Nations Security Council Resolution
00:25:232803, which
00:25:25was about getting the cease fire in place, that created the
00:25:29board of peace and gave it the institutional imprimateur
00:25:33the United Nations, so this has been a very important step in undermining
00:25:37international law, undermining the UN,
00:25:40a privatizing and putting for profit, which is something we're very used to with this
00:25:43administration, attempts to do that at least, the provision of
00:25:46services, the plans for reconstruction, it has made that there can
00:25:50be no accepted palestinian governance, so a series
00:25:54of metrics that makes sense for
00:25:58us complicity an Israeli plan to continue.
00:26:02a zero some eradicationist policy towards the Palestinians, the last
00:26:06year has been a great success and and Zaha, Washington his
00:26:10insisting again, it's it's plan and the board of
00:26:13peace, they've said this, they will work
00:26:16and they are working, according to the US, in the spirit
00:26:20of commercial diplomacy, so that
00:26:24if they build for development and economic opportunities,
00:26:28somehow everyone will be pragmatic, they'll they'll
00:26:31forget the... recent as well as the historic past
00:26:35grievances and they'll move forward, could that ever be
00:26:39true? this is new phrase
00:26:43for me, commercial diplomacy, mean what it looks like
00:26:46is um a
00:26:49grab by president trump and a
00:26:53group of billionaires that he's a massed around him
00:26:57to capitalize on the destruction of gaza and
00:27:01create some sort of... Riviera as as he once
00:27:04referred it in in the strip and to be honest with you, the
00:27:08one thing that is moving forward, it's not relief and
00:27:12reconstruction uh to support Palestinians and to
00:27:16rebuild their their homes, their communities. What is
00:27:19moving forward are plans for the confiscation of Palestinian
00:27:23land. There are documents being drafted
00:27:27about how to seize private property in Gaza as we
00:27:31speak. Um. the board of peace in one of
00:27:34its three unpublished
00:27:38resolutions that have been reported on by the
00:27:41guardian has
00:27:45um indicated that public facilities, public property,
00:27:49all of it will be, could be seized by the
00:27:53board of peace, that's that's around 35% of
00:27:56Gaza, the rest is private property,
00:28:00and all the development plans this... master plan that
00:28:03we've seen uh towted by Jared
00:28:07Kuschner at Davos and in
00:28:10Washington at the US Institute for peace. These require
00:28:14the mass displacement of Palestinians. They
00:28:18require Palestinians being hurded up
00:28:21and set into smaller enclaves, while
00:28:25the strip gets redeveloped for investors
00:28:29and for business interests. All the assets.
00:28:33of Gaza, the land, the the gas
00:28:36reserves, all the assets are to be swooped
00:28:40up into a trust that will become
00:28:44uh at the end the
00:28:47uh uh the UN security council resolutions exper date
00:28:50for for uh its endorsement the board of peace, at the end of
00:28:54that it will be basically Trump's private property
00:28:58in in this trust that he's creating so...
00:29:02Commercial diplomacy is euphemism, I would
00:29:05say, what it is is grand
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