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00:02:53Hi there, I'm at the pre cup 31
00:02:55of meetings in Fiji where
00:02:56in stakeholders are trying to work through some
00:02:58of the more difficult issues. ahead of cop 31 which will be held
00:03:02in Turkia
00:03:03in a month's time, so first let's get to why we're
00:03:06here,
00:03:12the Pacific leaders have uh
00:03:14in declared in
00:03:15that climate change is the most existential threat to the pacific at the moment,
00:03:19but from from my perspective
00:03:21a it's climate change coupled with
00:03:23a biodiversity loss uh together with pollution,
00:03:27the coupling of all
00:03:28of these impacts are further excessive. rating the impacts of climate change
00:03:32um on the pacific. can you get more specific when you talk about
00:03:35biodiversity loss? what
00:03:36are you referring exactly? i am referring to the fact
00:03:40that
00:03:41you know anthropogenic uh impacts on biodiversity such
00:03:45as the over extraction of natural resources in in
00:03:49ways that are very unsustainable are further contributing towards the loss of
00:03:52biodiversity and the loss of nature and that in
00:03:56in turn is impacting on the pacific.
00:04:00ability to respond
00:04:02of efficiently and effectively to the impacts of climate change, so for
00:04:05Pacificant countries um and for those at the crust level,
00:04:09nature is their best allied to addressing the climate impacts and
00:04:13when the ability of nature to be able to provide those
00:04:16of ecosystem of services for adaptation but as well as for mitigation
00:04:20is being threatened then that actually you know
00:04:24in puts communities much more vulnerable and more susceptible to the
00:04:28impacts of climate change. think can actually be
00:04:31accomplished um at preecop as it
00:04:34pertains to um biodiversity
00:04:38loss, rising sea levels, all the issues that are being brought up here, what can
00:04:41be accomplished during these talks? i
00:04:44of think actually provides - um a
00:04:48blueprint, our road map towards what the pacific would like to
00:04:52see um achieved um or taken to cop
00:04:5531 um in antalia so i think uh
00:04:59here at not only just specific governments are here, but you
00:05:03have huge
00:05:06platora
00:05:07for delegates from civil society organizations, including community voices
00:05:11and representatives that are... here those that are here that will be able to travel
00:05:15to cop 31 and those who are here but won't be able to travel to
00:05:18cup 31 and everybody has been singing the same
00:05:22terms uh you know asking global leaders to to
00:05:25ensure that 1.5 degree stays alive in terms the
00:05:29decisions that are going to be adopted at cop um also to ensure can
00:05:331.5 degrees stay alive yeah to ensure that 1.5
00:05:36degrees um um the global target is maintained
00:05:40in terms the disc. that needs to be adopted at cop, so
00:05:44if decisions needs to be adopted to be in line with the global target of
00:05:48maintaining 1.5 degrees and so that is actually
00:05:52important for pacific people. um, also the pacific is talking
00:05:56about the importance of recognizing that you cannot address climate
00:06:00without including oceans and ocean actions in that, so we
00:06:04see lot of of unified voices calling for
00:06:08a stronger outcome on oceans including the ocean climate
00:06:11nexus at. 31 and I'm kind of glad that the pacific leaders have agreed
00:06:15and together with the the the Turkey presidency
00:06:19has uh also agreed that cop 31 is actually going to be a blue
00:06:23cop uh the other things that the cover the Pacific Island leaders are calling
00:06:27for is the need for a just and efficient and
00:06:30accelerated transition away from fossil fuel and that is actually quite
00:06:34key because we really really need to work with the science
00:06:38which is telling us that we need to transition away from castle fuel but also in
00:06:42ensuring that um while we transition away from fossil
00:06:46fro, we are also looking at what will be the road
00:06:50map in terms of electrification and in terms
00:06:54of renewable energy not just at the global level but for the
00:06:57pacific and how do we finance that um that road map for
00:07:01the pacific for that transition and also
00:07:04you know it's about time to be implementing we have right uh
00:07:0720 this is 20 26 we have only few years left to
00:07:11get to 2030 and so cup 31 needs to be
00:07:15implementation cup, so how do we translate all of those
00:07:18huge commitments that the leaders have already made and the decisions that needs to be
00:07:22adopted at cop31 to enforce and to you know
00:07:26provide the enabling conditions for implementation,
00:07:28you know if cup 31 is called implementation cup, that was also what was called
00:07:32cup 30 in Brazil, that was also was called the cup before that both
00:07:36implementation cup on the action corps, so we keep pushing this
00:07:40title further down as the... pass, but you didn't mention quite
00:07:44a bit agree of agreement at pre-cop, which I think is quite
00:07:47positive, but as it comes to how we
00:07:50implement um strategies to tackle the camera
00:07:54crisis, there is always a lot of disagreement, where do you see
00:07:58disagreement at precop? um, there
00:08:02i don't see lot of disagreement here at pr because
00:08:05almost um the majority the participants here at pickup, i believe are
00:08:09from the pacific and the pacific is speaking with a unified voice. but
00:08:13implementation, you have to look at it from a whole perspective,
00:08:16implementation requires technical support, requires science,
00:08:20requires technology and innovation,
00:08:23implementation also requires financing, um and those are the
00:08:27things that have been promised but not yet really delivered on the ground, and
00:08:31so how do we ensure that we we go towards pre coup
00:08:34with clear idea as to where other road blocks
00:08:38are and how can we get the political will
00:08:42to to try? address the road blocks to ensure that we are able to
00:08:45deliver um as promised under the you know and where all
00:08:49the the the parties to the to the Paris agreement has agreed to
00:08:53under the you know to get to that 1.5 degree now
00:08:57let's talk about money here in the pacific communities already
00:09:01spending money uh moving their homes they're spending money
00:09:05rebuilding after disasters securing the island's coastlines and
00:09:08securing fresh water and the argument here is about "who
00:09:12should pay for
00:09:13all of that? lot the wealthier countries, the countries that are contributing the most to
00:09:17common emissions, are failing to meet their obligations under
00:09:20the law. um, these are laws that were already passed and
00:09:24recognized earlier, but the international court of justice advisory opinion
00:09:28reaffirms those obligations, obligations that states are
00:09:31failing to meet. so with our work now, now that we have the advisory opinion,
00:09:35we're trying to get people and states to recognize that they have an obligation to
00:09:39prevent climate harm, and also hopefully use that. negotiations at
00:09:43precop and cop uh and to take polluting states to court if there
00:09:47is no avenues for reparations or justice and how's this work for countries that do not
00:09:51recognize the ICJ? i think then that falls to
00:09:54individual states to weigh out whether it's worth even having
00:09:58relations with these states um and to perhaps explore other avenues
00:10:02of negotiation or diplomacy that ensures that our people are being
00:10:05protected because at the moment um with the trajectory that we're
00:10:09on we are not going to see justice for. countries that are contributing the
00:10:13least to these issues, but are struggling the most on the
00:10:16frontlines, but a more basic level, why do you think
00:10:20a wealthy country would not want to help another
00:10:23financially? um, I think if you talk about
00:10:27wealth, it goes back to the conversation of colonialism and ne
00:10:30colonialism. um, what we are seeing is
00:10:33states that have benefited from extraction, build
00:10:37themselves up financially, and now they're so comfortable in their positions that
00:10:41they're refusing to recognize the responsibilities, so this is really a
00:10:45question of principle, and whether we can rely on our partners and
00:10:49our states to uphold human rights.
00:10:53I know one the... means being offered up
00:10:56as loans, so it's quite odd
00:11:00to ask a poor country that was not responsible for climate crisis
00:11:03to to borrow money from the wealthier countries that were
00:11:07responsible to finance
00:11:11their mitigation, adaptation, loss and mean to fix stuff when
00:11:15things get broken after climate disaster, it seems very unfair,
00:11:18yeah, so what the advisory opinion clarified was that states have
00:11:22a common but differentiated responsibility. "larger politing states have the
00:11:26responsibility to fund the just transition, so ensure that there is
00:11:30funding for these, for these smaller states that haven't
00:11:34contributed so much, but also that they are part the first
00:11:37movement into the just transition,
00:11:39so they're moving away from fossil fuels. um, so the other thing that the
00:11:43advisor opinion also clarified was that states do not now
00:11:47have um voluntary obligation,
00:11:50it's requirement to fund these
00:11:54these transition." and so it's no longer a question of charity, it's
00:11:58a question of obligation, and if states fail to meet those obligations financially as
00:12:02well, that can be litigated against in international law. do
00:12:06you think that's part the issue that welfare countries was seeing this as
00:12:10charity? very much so, mean we've
00:12:14experienced so much colonialism and extraction where wealthier countries
00:12:18feel entitled to our resources and now refuse to give back
00:12:21to our people, we did not contribute to this. issue, we not
00:12:25create this issue, but we are the ones paying, and again it comes back
00:12:29to the principle of it all, our states willing to uphold human
00:12:33rights at its core, or are they willing to look
00:12:37only inwards and be realist in their approach to
00:12:40humanity? have you seen any positive discussions about crime
00:12:44of phen? i think we've seen
00:12:47lots of very progressive and
00:12:51optimistic conversations, but what it really relies on is act.
00:12:55so we need not just the conversation to be preaching to the choir, but for our
00:12:59states and our leaders to use those arguments in
00:13:03the negotiations at precop and cop and also to litigate against polluting
00:13:07states. um, think even without movement of young people, we've
00:13:11shown the world that there is movement towards justice, there is
00:13:15a transition away from that status quo that
00:13:19doesn't serve our people, but we need our leaders to act
00:13:22on that uh on that momentum. "i know the cop
00:13:26presidency, cup 31 presidency is talking about cop 31 being
00:13:29implementation cup, ironically few other cups before that were
00:13:33also called implementation cops. do you have any fath that cop 31 could actually
00:13:37move the needle any one, well a positive
00:13:40direction? i think with the advisory opinion
00:13:44now um passed as resolution at the United Nations general
00:13:47assembly, states have a stronger obligation to
00:13:51uphold uh and operationalize on it and so..." "if we are
00:13:55going to call this implementation cop, then we need to actually show
00:13:58that with the outcomes. um, i think for the
00:14:02most part we've seen lots of ambitious language,
00:14:06but we now need action on that language, and so if states
00:14:10want to call this the implementation cop, we need to act on it
00:14:14and ensure that the outcomes reflect that, it's not just
00:14:17words, their actions, but do you expect that to happen?
00:14:21hope so, um, gu It really
00:14:25just depends on whether our states are hearing us and will they push for that
00:14:28agenda. Do you feel heard? To an
00:14:32extent. To what extent do you not feel
00:14:34heard? um,
00:14:38this is heavy question. I think states
00:14:42are worldwide failing to meet their obligations regarding
00:14:46human rights, and so we need to find the
00:14:50baseline for what we want for our people and for our
00:14:53futures. "remember that we are borrowing from the future generations, not
00:14:57just from those
00:14:58that currently exist, and so
00:15:01in every conversation, remind ourselves that it's the
00:15:05future generations that we are fighting for. our time on this earth will be
00:15:09very limited and we might not see the worst of climate change, but it is the
00:15:13next generation who we are borrowing for that needs us to advocate
00:15:17for them and us to protect them from the from the harms that we have
00:15:20created, so I don't know how to answer whether we've been heard or
00:15:24not. I feel like we've been platformed enough, we've been tokenized
00:15:28enough, it's time to change that into action.
00:15:32And losstly, if cop 31 does not
00:15:35deliver. Fiji is already
00:15:38seeing less rainfall with the
00:15:42rainy season starting in November. Il Nino is going to make
00:15:46things drastically worse. What do you expect Fiji and the rest
00:15:50the Pacific Islands to look like in
00:15:522027? Um,
00:15:56yeah, I think the Pacific is already preparing itself for the west
00:16:00case scenarios. Um, the science has um affirmed that we
00:16:03are set for overshoot. We're going to breach 1.5.
00:16:07ironically your show is cold two degrees, but we are fighting for 1.5
00:16:11because that is the legal red line uh and the scientific red line, and
00:16:14so we're hoping financially that states will
00:16:18recognize that they have an obligation, whether you look at the
00:16:22law or you just look at humanity and its principles, there is
00:16:26need for financing our people, for financing our futures and
00:16:29ensuring that we are not going to drown that we keep fighting, that
00:16:33is the mantra the pacific, we are not drowning, we are fighting um,
00:16:37and we hope that our allies, states that care for us, states that
00:16:41are in these conversations and negotiations, remember that there are real
00:16:45people behind these statistics and numbers, it's the work that we do with the
00:16:49witness stand as well, trying to publicize that human rights aspect of
00:16:53it and the human face of climate change, so my
00:16:57hope and what we are going to continue fighting for is that states
00:17:00will fund us, will remember that it's not
00:17:03charity, it's
00:17:05not an, it's
00:17:06not a voluntary um move, this is
00:17:08an obligation. meanwile, you've probably heard 1.5
00:17:11degrees, well hundreds of times, it's tocate 1.5 degrees,
00:17:151.5 degree celsius limit, 1.5 degree, keeping
00:17:191.5 in reach to 1.5 degree celsius, well
00:17:23here in the pacific, people don't talk about it as though it's just another number,
00:17:26here they're talking about whether their homes remain habitable,
00:17:30whether fresh water become salty, whether coral reefs
00:17:34survive and ultimately whether some communities stay where they
00:17:38are, give a sense the unique challenges that you, your
00:17:42group, your region, your neighborhood, your area, district
00:17:45faces, as it's also being led fully by
00:17:47women, climate change and its impact
00:17:51is the biggest challenge that we
00:17:54face in our daily lives in the
00:17:57village, you name it rising sea
00:18:00level, um
00:18:01our um
00:18:05um our uh "the salt water is reaching our
00:18:08gardens and um, you know, as
00:18:12mother our food, our crops are growing smaller
00:18:16everyday, so our food security is
00:18:19also affected, and not only
00:18:22that, um, also we watch
00:18:26um, grave sides of our
00:18:29incesters being washed away right in front of us, so these are the
00:18:33challenges we face uh nearly every single day in the village."
00:18:38The United Nations environmental program just recently talked about
00:18:41us probably breaching 1.5, what do you think
00:18:45that means for your community? for my
00:18:47communities, our
00:18:51people, the women and the children of Nadula,
00:18:551.5 degree is our
00:18:58lifeline, it is not
00:19:02negotiable, we cannot go beyond 1.5
00:19:05degree, um...
00:19:09uh, like even right now, fish are harder to
00:19:12find, so if we go beyond
00:19:151.5, what, what will it mean for our
00:19:18people, what it, what will it mean for our fisher, fishermen who
00:19:22go out to see every day, even right
00:19:25now, it's hard to find fish, yeah, i was speaking
00:19:29with with village leader just yesterday,
00:19:33and she was talking about um,
00:19:37yes, when you uh the globe is getting hotter
00:19:40and normally it rains, the rainy season starts in November,
00:19:44but over the past months, year you've been seeing lot less
00:19:47rain, and you guys uh can actually tell when the rainy scene is
00:19:51coming, when a storm is coming because the bread fruit, they get bigger on
00:19:55the trees, so less rain, less water
00:19:59means what for you if you realize so much agriculture as well as
00:20:03fish, so
00:20:06um... "I'm blessed to live
00:20:09with um, to live with elders who
00:20:13have taught us to live through the hardest times of
00:20:16our lives, and I am also blessed that
00:20:20my communities are made up of resilient
00:20:23people, so what does that mean, for
00:20:26me being resilient in our
00:20:29communities when hurricanes, I mean the
00:20:33zour islands is known for the the cyclone pathway to
00:20:36fiji." That is what our islands are known for, so
00:20:40whatever crops that we we grow at home, they are razilian
00:20:44crops, you name it, jams,
00:20:47kumala,
00:20:49you know, and and even right, even now the
00:20:52the traditional science that show
00:20:56us disasters, it is not it is
00:20:59not it is not the actual science
00:21:02anymore, like climate is
00:21:06changing, also the signs are changing, take it for
00:21:09example during cyclone wins time, it was something big for
00:21:13fiji, mean the strength the cyclone was
00:21:16bigger, so our children came back home - was
00:21:20no more fruiting of bread fruit trees, so our children came
00:21:24back home with abundance of catch in crabs
00:21:28in small fish, nature was trying to show us
00:21:32science that something new and bigger was coming,
00:21:35but we were not tuning ourselves into the traditional
00:21:39sites, so when when the big cyclone went
00:21:42pass, i then taught my children, so these are the new
00:21:46science that is coming that we are supposed to adopt ourselves in.
00:21:51and also elders are teaching us that
00:21:55the the netting the palolo was showing - something
00:21:58different, so it was growing more brown, darker
00:22:01brown, and that was also signs of bigger
00:22:05cycls and so what I'm
00:22:09trying to say here is we live now an
00:22:13era where our
00:22:16people are actually taught to fit ourselves. to the
00:22:20changes that is happening, so for drying water
00:22:24sources, mean prolong droughts, drying water
00:22:27sources, we are also taught
00:22:30to to expand our water
00:22:33storage containers and fill up water
00:22:37during the rainy season so that it can take us through during
00:22:41the dry season that there are different other areas no longer we
00:22:45find a nut tree uh so before when we see a line
00:22:49of nut tree Yes, so this is where we can find water.
00:22:52Nowadays, that sign is no longer there, now there
00:22:56are new signs that showing us that there is presence of
00:23:00water. It's really profound,
00:23:03because you know in developed
00:23:07countries, the government has reservoirs is in charge in charge
00:23:11of storing water for the entire country and communities throughout the
00:23:14country, but in smaller countries, small island states, you have to
00:23:18store water yourself. when it's rainy during the rainy season
00:23:22for it to last during the dry season that's becoming more challenging
00:23:25because you have no idea how long the
00:23:27dry season will last when it comes
00:23:29do you think do you feel as though your government is doing enough to tackle what
00:23:33you're going through and government is doing what they can
00:23:37do um i
00:23:39know um honestly it may
00:23:43be not enough but i believe a community
00:23:47that is intact and we believe. in working
00:23:51together that has been taught to us by our forefathers that
00:23:55everything is done together as a community, so for
00:23:59storage we have our traditional way of stor of
00:24:03storing water in our villages, so you know we
00:24:07dig those um those um those deep
00:24:10holes along the along the coast
00:24:14where they are hidstones so you will see our the youths in
00:24:18our villages. cracking all those big stones so that there is
00:24:22water storage there, so when you go out to to do
00:24:26your farming, your scaling of fish is everything
00:24:30is done in the sea, and then when you come up to the
00:24:33land, your water is already stored
00:24:36there, so you know we we have our own ways of
00:24:40doing things that was being taught to us by our
00:24:43elders, so you know that is what i meant when i
00:24:47said when i actually said to leave. a resilent
00:24:50community, because it was being taught to us by our
00:24:54forefathers that to live through the worst,
00:24:58you know disasters of our lives in the villages. i think that's really what
00:25:02people mean when we talk about the knowledge the indigenous
00:25:06people and it passing through the generations, they have all these solutions
00:25:09already. i saw you get pretty emotional, not very
00:25:13emotional, emotional when you were talking about the future and protecting it for
00:25:17your children, why? obviously that's very... important for you and very big
00:25:21motivating factor, that is
00:25:24something in the history of my advocacy work, when it
00:25:28comes to talking about my people and my children, it
00:25:32really hits me to the heart,
00:25:34because my
00:25:38whole entire life, i have been doing things for my
00:25:41people, and you know
00:25:43and what i've seen in when
00:25:47years go by when i talk about
00:25:51my people when when my intentions is very genuine talking
00:25:55about my people, this is also where
00:25:57i see you know opening of funding opportunities that come from my
00:26:01island homes. "it's because we are doing things for the right
00:26:05reason, and then I'm so blessed
00:26:08that when I keep you know when we talk about the
00:26:12climate crisis, the halting the climate crisis,
00:26:16sometimes I go back home and wonder,
00:26:19you know, did the leaders here what I
00:26:23said, you know, I keep coming back and challenging world leaders
00:26:27of what we go through at home, and
00:26:30then back at home. "we don't
00:26:34know what climate finance is,
00:26:36you know, back at home, my children,
00:26:40I will only tell my children that the Pacific
00:26:43nations look up to Australia is the mother nation to the Pacific
00:26:47nations, and I will only tell my people that the
00:26:50Australian government is there at our doorsp if they are
00:26:54supplying water tanks to every, I mean to every households in the
00:26:58village, we hear so much about climate finance, we hear so
00:27:02much about..." climate adaptation, my children don't
00:27:06know what finance is, all they know is
00:27:08implementation, and that's a
00:27:12show, well there is real purpose here at precop, it obviously
00:27:16can't solve the climate crisis in fiji across the planet, but it does
00:27:20have the potential to make it lot more difficult for governments to
00:27:24come to cop 31 and turkia in November, pretending that they
00:27:28don't already know what's
00:27:30it take, so until next time.
00:29:18problem climate now, change and global
00:29:21trees that heating, the
00:29:25world calls for
00:29:26a permanent ends to the violence, hundreds of people are
00:29:29supported
00:29:30to dead or missing.
00:30:16Saudi Arabia promises retaliation after unsettled lahutis
00:30:20attacks on airports across the kingdom as Iran offers to
00:30:24mediate. Hello and welcome to TRT World Live
00:30:28from London. I'm Hazm Seaker also head on the program. The UK
00:30:32summons. the Iranian ambassador after prime minister Andy Burnham says the
00:30:36Iranian revolutionary guard was likely behind the security
00:30:39breach at the Fairford airbase. Tehran denies the
00:30:43allegations. I am here in one the
00:30:47neighborhoods in Eastern Gaza City. This area is
00:30:51very close to the Israeli military controlled areas in
00:30:55Gaza known as yellow
00:30:57line.
00:31:03TRT World reports from the so-called yellow lining