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00:00:00the focus of attention, as Elena said, a town of just over 2,000 inhabitants, whose
00:00:04daily life has changed forever. How do you see the
00:00:07people and what feeling do you take away from all
00:00:09this?
00:00:12Look, I was explaining before this connection that I met a
00:00:15girl crying, looking precisely at the whole group of journalists who were here
00:00:19behind, when Alberto Núñez Feijó arrived, she explained: I
00:00:23don't understand, no, I don't understand, I couldn't understand how this whole
00:00:26crowd of
00:00:28trains from journalists, of people who are covering
00:00:30this accident, are here in my town. It's a bit what we were saying,
00:00:34how this town has been transformed and there
00:00:38are really messages of
00:00:41they are the symbol of the city that is born from a lot of incomprehension of why
00:00:42greeting now the president of this accident happened a few
00:00:45meters from this town and after what we were commenting on, how
00:00:49people try to get it out somehow,
00:00:52talk about it with the neighbors who we can talk to,
00:00:55they talk openly with their relatives, logically it is very difficult, in fact we have not been able
00:00:59to talk to any of them, but the neighbors need to
00:01:03explain, they need to explain what they have seen because there are
00:01:06truly critical situations, when we arrived
00:01:10there just yesterday and we moved to the
00:01:13pavilion where the first injured were being treated, we
00:01:16really saw people who were very lame
00:01:20with their shirts and pants full of blood,
00:01:23these are images that whether you like it or not stay in your retina
00:01:26and many neighbors had to see this when... they wanted it
00:01:30and even so they have been supportive, they have brought water,
00:01:34they have brought food, they distributed soup, they distributed
00:01:37coffee, you can imagine the displays of solidarity during
00:01:41especially throughout yesterday, but also throughout
00:01:44today, it was really moving when today
00:01:48you interviewed Edu, the pharmacist from Urda
00:01:51who helped so many people in the first moments of the tragedy who
00:01:55said he had gone to the pharmacy to get everything he could, um,
00:01:59because of course. Surely there will be many of these people
00:02:02who have received this solidarity, who will want
00:02:05to meet again later, no further than
00:02:08the initial impact, to be able to meet again, because it is a
00:02:12tragedy that will mark them for their whole lives. All of them,
00:02:16what is said so many times, right? They have been born again and next
00:02:19to them they have found these neighbors from Urda, absolutely unknown
00:02:23people who have surely experienced one of the most
00:02:26impactful and important moments of their lives, who today return to their
00:02:29towns, they stop seeing each other, but surely they will want
00:02:32to meet again at some point, as the
00:02:36pharmacist explained to you
00:02:37before.
00:02:41Yes, Antonio, the pharmacist, we really got goosebumps when he
00:02:44explained that he helped or helped yesterday
00:02:48a person even to place his housing.
00:02:51saying goodbye by phone to his wife and today he
00:02:55meet with them to ask them to has received the news that he is recovering in a hospital
00:02:58and that for him, just for... this it was worth it
00:03:01to be one of the first people who arrived and it was worth it
00:03:05surely that for the rest of his life he will have engraved
00:03:08in his memory he will have engraved in his head images as
00:03:11Antonio commented of amputations of
00:03:15seeing pieces of human bodies on the ground
00:03:19images that he will never forget and we
00:03:23entered the pharmacy, the pharmacy is very small, it is a village pharmacy, even
00:03:26so, even if it surely did not have, it is not a big one,
00:03:30not having great resources, he took all the bandages he found,
00:03:34all the pads, everything he found to be able to
00:03:37try to prevent these
00:03:39we will see if we have snow, the first snowfall of people from bleeding to death and to help
00:03:41them, to go there, I mean, the displays of solidarity and perhaps the
00:03:45pharmacist Antonio Garcia is the
00:03:48image, the living image of this
00:03:51people leave, perhaps we can start to solidarity of the town, of the town of Urda, a town as you said
00:03:54of just over 2,000 inhabitants, um, and in the center, I wanted
00:03:58to ask you also about the center, the center. of command where we see that
00:04:02all the authorities arrive, that all these meetings
00:04:05are held, well, yesterday with Minister Puente, today with Marc
00:04:08Lasca, Pedro Sánchez, now Alberto Núñez Feijó with Emiliano
00:04:12García Page who has undoubtedly taken the reins of
00:04:16the communication of this tragedy as president of Castilla la Mancha, what
00:04:20else will happen, what is expected to happen, what other authorities are expected to come here to Urda
00:04:23in the next few hours or next few days?
00:04:26For
00:04:29now, Alena, it's information we don't have yet. For
00:04:32now, the Spanish government has passed, there is also the government of Castilla la
00:04:36Mancha. It is a center that will remain, for now, until, logically, until the two
00:04:40trains are removed from the
00:04:42tracks. It is a command center that will
00:04:45continue to work in this area with all available resources, not
00:04:49only primarily police, civil
00:04:53guard, the large tonnage cranes that are starting to lift all
00:04:56this scrap metal, to see if they still find some more
00:05:00bodies. For now, what we don't know, Alena, is whether
00:05:04any more authorities are expected
00:05:06to the preservation of to pass through this control center, but it is true that
00:05:09now, for example, we see Alberto Núñez Feijó who first went through the
00:05:12command center and then came here to the
00:05:15center of the town where, by the way, now that we were talking about the
00:05:19pharmacist, he met briefly, he met
00:05:22briefly with Antonio García, yes, indeed, also in his
00:05:25statements he cited him, he spoke of his solidarity in
00:05:29relation to what we have Roger Heredia with us,
00:05:33how long can these search
00:05:36tasks take, also the transfer of all these
00:05:41the AVE from Iryo. How long will the population of Urda
00:05:44take to return to a certain normality? Let me,
00:05:47let me answer that question later, but I was
00:05:51very interested in
00:05:55the association of victims of Adamuz, Mario Samper,
00:05:58good morning and thank you for joining us.
00:06:01Hello, good morning, how are you? Well,
00:06:04a big hug from the start because I understand that everything
00:06:07is stirred up again, on January 18 you experienced a train accident in
00:06:11Adamuz with... 46 fatalities and
00:06:14unfortunately 9 months after the accident, the tragedy has
00:06:18been repeated, how are you experiencing it,
00:06:22because Mario, you were, what day were you in the
00:06:25Congress, in the Congress of Deputies, October 8, I think it was October
00:06:288 that you were in the Congress of
00:06:31Deputies and what did you tell them that
00:06:33day?
00:06:36Yes, how are you? Well, well, I warned
00:06:40once again, we, as a result of the
00:06:43interview we had with the management of the State Railway Safety Agency,
00:06:46based on what they told us there, which was nothing more than that they had done
00:06:50absolutely nothing on the
00:06:53railway in Spain since January 18,
00:06:56given these circumstances, we
00:06:59drafted a statement that we sent to both the agency and the Council
00:07:03of Ministers and the President of the Government,
00:07:06warning that the Spanish railway system, its high-
00:07:10speed, had to be stopped immediately. As
00:07:14they ignored us, they even replied saying that the system was in very
00:07:17good health, just like the minister has been saying these
00:07:21days, well,
00:07:24we took it a step further and started asking
00:07:27effectively that day in Congress we started asking
00:07:31citizens not to get on the train, not to
00:07:34risk, not to play with their lives getting on the train, unfortunately
00:07:38we were right, sadly we expected this
00:07:41to happen much later, but well, the Spanish
00:07:45railway system is really lacking, it has many deficiencies in
00:07:48safety and well, it was probable that this would happen,
00:07:52where were you yesterday when the accident occurred, how
00:07:56did you receive the news?
00:07:59Well, coincidentally I was precisely with the
00:08:02agency, with the Railway Accident Investigation Commission, now called CIAT, I was going to
00:08:07make a recommendation
00:08:10which we understood was
00:08:13necessary for the State Railway Safety Agency and
00:08:17well, the moment I arrived in the morning, it was a little after 9:30,
00:08:21they themselves were looking at their phones and a little
00:08:23well, scared, no,
00:08:26shocked, they told me, do you know what's happening? And I said,
00:08:30no, and they themselves were the ones who informed me. We had a meeting of about
00:08:33two hours and the truth is that we weren't there, we didn't have
00:08:37our heads in another place. It was quite
00:08:39shocking, I imagine, because
00:08:43of course, when I heard you
00:08:45make this call to citizens to please not get on
00:08:49trains, you know, they are not safe,
00:08:52of course, these are very forceful statements, that
00:08:56when you hear them from the mouth of a person who has been a victim of the
00:09:00Adamuz accident, you might even think he is
00:09:03biased because he was a victim, but yesterday this
00:09:07happened again, tell us Mario,
00:09:10the data, you have investigated a lot,
00:09:13you surely know many more things than us about how everything is
00:09:17working right now, we have
00:09:19listened to the audios, the audios from the Atocha control
00:09:23center, what data do you have to be able to make this type of
00:09:27statements?
00:09:29Well, not only us, but the data we have is what has been provided to us by the
00:09:33investigators themselves from the Railway Accident Investigation Commission, the
00:09:36drivers themselves and many technical
00:09:40and railway technical staff who
00:09:43know the situation perfectly well. Well, as
00:09:46some data, we can say that there are hundreds of rail
00:09:50breaks per year, which was what caused our
00:09:53tragedy, this is a
00:09:56fact known by all railway workers and many of those
00:10:00rail breaks are not detected, they are not detected in time, we
00:10:04had 49 trains passing over a rail break for 22
00:10:08hours that was not detected, so well, it
00:10:11is clear that there are many safety systems that need to be
00:10:14implemented on the railway, the luggage that was
00:10:18above us in
00:10:21each wagon did a lot of damage,
00:10:25in short, there are many safety measures that need to be implemented
00:10:29on the railway, we were not aware that there were also complaints and
00:10:32problems with low-speed starts like yesterday,
00:10:35supposedly like yesterday, and well, that's another of the
00:10:39problems, also complaints, in fact, today they are with the drivers,
00:10:43a lack of personnel that when supervising all
00:10:46maneuvers, for example like yesterday, a person is found
00:10:50alone, so as I say, there are many
00:10:54deficiencies and it seems inhuman and cruel that
00:10:56someone is capable of saying that this is a
00:11:00human error, yes, it is a human error because we are not on Mars, we are on
00:11:04planet Earth and we are men who operate the systems, but
00:11:07the systems are perfectly capable, they should be, so that in the event of a
00:11:11distraction or a physical medical problem of a
00:11:15driver, the trains would stop safely, the drivers who
00:11:19have been complaining about this lack of safety for a long
00:11:22time, you too. And
00:11:26let's go to the newsroom for a moment, yes, stay with us Mario, because we have some other
00:11:29important statements warning of safety
00:11:32failures in the railway system? Yes, these
00:11:36are the statements made in the Senate by the general director of Iryo,
00:11:39Fabrizio Favara, three weeks ago, on October 5, in the
00:11:43Senate, within the framework of the investigation commission precisely of the
00:11:46Damuz accident, he appeared as we said on October 5 and when asked about what kind
00:11:50of incidents his drivers had detected and communicated to Adif in this
00:11:54Madrid corridor.
00:12:42he said that it was indeed three weeks ago since these statements, but they are five days
00:12:46before the statements, the statements of Mario Samper,
00:12:49indeed, which are very striking. I wanted to ask Mario
00:12:52also in relation to these statements,
00:12:55with the leaks we were commenting on earlier,
00:12:58because according to the statements being made, the tragedy is attributed
00:13:02to human error. What do you think of
00:13:06these explanations and also the leaks of
00:13:08the audios? We think
00:13:12it's terrible that they want to blame it already, I remind you, I think you'll
00:13:16know that when we asked Minister Oscar Puente to
00:13:19resign, face to face in his office at a meeting we had with him in
00:13:23March, he told us that he hadn't welded the
00:13:26track, so
00:13:29this is the history of this country, those responsible always try to find
00:13:33a scapegoat, they always look for, well, in short, it was a
00:13:36driver in Angrois, it was a welder in
00:13:39Adamuz, now it's a controller of the
00:13:42central, I think it's incredible, a tremendous irresponsibility and
00:13:46cruelty, to leave all the responsibility for what has happened
00:13:49to a worker, a worker who is alone, who has few resources and
00:13:53who it is even yet to be proven that it was his fault, the
00:13:56responsible party here is clear and it is the main
00:14:00problem that the railway network has today and that is the
00:14:03responsible parties, those who are in charge of Adif,
00:14:07of the Ministry of Transport, of the State Railway Safety Agency
00:14:11and of the Railway Accident Investigation Commission itself, when these
00:14:16breathe easy and there will be another management that cares more about
00:14:19citizens, not like today, Mario Rugere, you had a question for
00:14:23him, hello, good morning Mr. Samper, I'm going to be very clear and very
00:14:27direct, given what has happened, do you
00:14:30think it's time to say enough is enough, we're going to stop all high-
00:14:33speed, let's see what happened and draw
00:14:36conclusions.
00:14:40Yes, some people told us after making these statements
00:14:44requesting the shutdown of the network, some called us
00:14:47crazy, that this would cause chaos in the country, well, I
00:14:51ask, what are human lives worth, how much, how much is
00:14:55the life of these 80 people worth, 80 so many people who have
00:14:59died on this occasion, we have to
00:15:02think about it, it's clear that the railway network has
00:15:05notorious safety deficiencies,
00:15:09so what are we going to wait for a fourth accident,
00:15:12a fifth, this never ends, we will have to stop,
00:15:16fix, implement the necessary safety systems, but do it now, citizens have
00:15:20to wake up and not let themselves be harmed any more,
00:15:23we cannot get on a train in these circumstances and
00:15:27we have to see a clear sign or
00:15:30a light that someone is taking responsibility and cares about
00:15:33citizens, what has happened is horrifying, but not just because...
00:21:11otherwise, on the railway tragedy in Urda. Throughout
00:21:15the entire program we have had the opportunity to hear from different
00:21:18engineers from... you also have experts on
00:21:22what may have happened, this big question that we still haven't
00:21:26been able to answer because the audios could point to human error,
00:21:29but why didn't technology stop the AVE train? Let's review,
00:21:32a summary of everything that experts and witnesses
00:21:35have told us. The rest of European countries have more
00:21:39economical options and above all options that go a little
00:21:43slower but go by conventional railway, not high-speed, which allows
00:21:46this social transport between cities to be done.
00:21:57Vigo and now there are quite a few circulations, so the traffic staff at Atocha have to be
00:22:01vigilant.
00:22:06A tragedy like this in a single person, an
00:22:09accident normally occurs due to a
00:22:11concatenation of a whole series of
00:22:14factors.
00:22:19responsibilities,
00:22:22I
00:22:29think we also have to understand that it is very
00:22:31different to be guilty than to be responsible, they are not the same
00:22:35thing, the impact was heard, it was
00:22:39brutal and then the
00:22:42smoke column came out, which was very large,
00:22:45nothing, we ran there, they were
00:22:49the ones who... heard
00:22:52everything, everything that was on the trains, the suffocations, the
00:22:56noises, and how people were asking
00:22:58for help, it deeply affected
00:23:02me, one of the victims, I saw his body
00:23:05shattered, but he was conscious, and he was talking to
00:23:09his wife, saying goodbye to her, telling her I love you very much, Maite, take care
00:23:13of the children and he said a very beautiful word for
00:23:16believers, that he said in his last hour, God is
00:23:290 it's time to connect to the final
00:23:32stretch of the program, we dedicate it to the weather forecast, we announce
00:23:36snow perhaps for next week in Catalonia, look how it was
00:23:39today, in fact yesterday it was going to Greece, this is 1500
00:23:43meters high, this cold air that is over Greece, we already
00:23:46said it last week, it seems that next week...
00:23:53that things change a lot and that it seems that first
00:23:57of all Saints will be a cold weekend, today in the
00:24:01afternoon some cloudy intervals, tomorrow already some first showers
00:24:05in the southern regions, look at this cold air from here,
00:24:08it will come closer to the Iberian Peninsula
00:24:12for next week and therefore the forecast warns that we will already talk about
00:24:16the sign of the snow, it will be a sunny
00:24:20day, but cold, and temperatures will continue to drop, drop, drop, drop
00:24:24and at the end of the week we will see, because this is far away, but
00:24:29the season, the Pyrenees for the weekend, so now that you have put on
00:24:33the collar, you will have to take the raincoat, we will see
00:24:36how we will see what will happen next
00:24:39week, for now this is the forecast, drop in temperatures for
00:24:43Halloween and then, perhaps
00:24:46we will start to see the first snowfalls in the Pyrenees, thank you, thank you.
00:24:50to all of you for following us another day, we will leave you with the regional news and
00:24:53tomorrow we will be back, goodbye.
00:25:06strike
00:25:14by train drivers throughout the railway network, called by SEMAF,
00:25:17the majority union, to demand a structural change, they say, in
00:25:21safety. During the morning, minimum services have been
00:25:24respected.
00:25:28The loss of confidence in Rodalies has increased the number
00:25:31of passengers on buses that go to Barcelona. Users
00:25:35of the express buses from the Maresme demand more safety and
00:25:38not having to travel standing on the highway.
00:25:42A couple or three days ago he braked suddenly and there were even people who
00:25:46were sitting on the ground and the people who came
00:25:49behind went. Nothing happens until it happens, there is no
00:25:53chronicle of a death foretold murder
00:25:56at 13, a man at the Hospital Joan 23 in Tarragona,
00:26:00he was admitted to the floor
00:26:03in Salou just last week.
00:26:05past.
00:26:08Vica is armored for the call to go out and loot businesses.
00:26:12Finally, it did not happen, but the student demonstration,
00:26:15called today also to ask for improvements in education
00:26:18and decent
00:26:22Meteocat is testing these days with a mobile radar to
00:26:25validate the location of the three new meteorological radars that are to be installed
00:26:29in the Pyrenees. They check that there is no interference and that the
00:26:33telecommunications work
00:26:34well.
00:26:37And today, Saint Narcissus day, we will tell you the story of the Girona flies,
00:26:43the legend of its patron saint. Today, Thursday, October
00:26:4729, we begin the regional news.
00:27:12A long silence today at Sants station at 12
00:27:15noon, 5 minutes in which a hundred workers gathered in the
00:27:18hall as a tribute and in memory of the victims of the railway accident
00:27:22there in
00:27:22Toledo.
00:27:30Good afternoon, the crash has left for the moment. 89 fatalities and
00:27:3450 injured hospitalized this morning people are still being searched
00:27:37among the wreckage at the accident site.
00:27:40Meanwhile, here in Catalonia, the consternation and incomprehension
00:27:44for this very serious accident has coincided with the train drivers' strike
00:27:48that had already been called to demand precisely more railway
00:27:51safety. There are minimum services, but the protest is affecting
00:27:54suburban and regional trains, also high speed and long
00:27:57distance.
00:27:59Many users this morning did not want to risk it. Aware that
00:28:03there was a train drivers' strike, they looked for alternatives and stations like
00:28:07Lleida had less influx than usual. In the capital of
00:28:11Sagrià, the minimum services on trains were completed
00:28:14before with destination Barcelona. The 8 o'clock train, however, was covered by road
00:28:18with a bus due to the absence of the train driver. Also some
00:28:22users have had to change their ticket. And I had to change it for
00:28:26tomorrow at 7 in the morning. It's a hassle, but well, with three small
00:28:29children I didn't want, I didn't want to risk it. At Girona
00:28:33station, a similar image, the agreed service was offered and with
00:28:37fewer passengers, all because it's a holiday for Sant Narcís.
00:28:41I have to go to Barcelona today for a medical appointment
00:28:44that I had to postpone because the day that they gave me
00:28:48first was a strike and today there is also a strike, it always happens,
00:28:52so even if nothing had happened we would still come with a bit of fear
00:28:56if it leaves, if it doesn't leave. No serious incidents either in
00:28:59regional trains where the protest is also taking place. In Sant Vicenç de
00:29:03Calders, the day was lived almost normally, by
00:29:07public address system delays of 20 minutes on average were announced.
00:29:10At 6 in the morning I already turned on the radio to see how it was, because when
00:29:14I went to sleep, I already heard something that was not right,
00:29:18a situation practically identical at El Clot station,
00:29:21without queues or crowds or last minute
00:29:25surprises, all of it in a new day of national
00:29:29strike called by the majority union of
00:29:32train drivers. The CMAF union demands structural
00:29:36measures that increase safety throughout the network. This means from
00:29:40better protocols in case of meteorological emergency
00:29:43or risk situations, to also more reliability
00:29:47of railway material. They do not rule out for now taking more
00:29:51actions. Abraham Orriols, TV3,
00:29:53Barcelona.
00:29:55So let's delve into what we were just saying, the reasons, the
00:29:59causes of this protest. Marc Taxidó.
00:30:04Well, these demands are several, as we heard, the most prominent one,
00:30:08railway safety, especially that protocols be established in case
00:30:12of meteorological alerts to be able to act, to know who should notify
00:30:15of the risk, they want to avoid a repeat of the situation, for example, at the beginning of October when
00:30:19the heavy rains affected the Catalan coast and the train drivers refused to
00:30:23circulate, they ask that more train drivers be hired and, as
00:30:26we said, more reliable trains that end the technical problems of
00:30:30rolling stock. In addition to this safety, they want the regulations and protocols
00:30:34in case of run-overs not to be cut, that errors and risks
00:30:37can be communicated directly with those involved,
00:30:41also that there can be a direct line between the unions and the state
00:30:44safety agency and also the labor inspection, all these measures
00:30:47that were already agreed upon in the last strike at the beginning of the year, after the accidents of
00:30:51Gelida, but that the semaf unions say are not
00:30:55being applied due to bureaucracy, the unions.
00:30:58burocràcia, els sindicats.