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00:00:00and tell people what to do, but once we say it, it will be
00:00:03difficult to retrieve. yeah, okay, so we need to be
00:00:06careful with social
00:00:20yeah, i want to greet all of you in the studio there, you know,
00:00:24yeah, i want to, yeah, i'm listening to
00:00:27everything now that the bishop have said, okay, I want to
00:00:31ask one question, is um, what the
00:00:34catholic priest, the catholic bishops, what they
00:00:37said to Mr. President, is he, is he right or
00:00:41wrong, and at the
00:00:42of same time, are they speaking the mind of at least average
00:00:45Nigerian, is there insecurity in the land, is
00:00:49there poverty in the land, is there aship in the land,
00:00:53I want the bishop to respond, and at the same time,
00:00:56see, when we are talking national TV,
00:01:03Oh, it looks like we
00:01:05of lost um, Shaggo, but Bishop, he just wants
00:01:08to confirm exactly what he said, why is it a problem,
00:01:12he's saying, um, the um group
00:01:16that went to visit the uh president were talking about
00:01:20of insecurity and the issues, the national issues that we're facing today, were
00:01:24of they, are they wrong, is what he saying, thank you very much, you
00:01:28know, it's very easy for. for us to forget
00:01:31easily, mr. president came to power three years ago
00:01:35and some months, insecurity has been
00:01:37with us
00:01:38the last 15
00:01:39of years and it
00:01:40was worse under other government than now, but with what
00:01:44happened in abduction and their
00:01:47release, we must know that there is concerted
00:01:51of efforts on the part
00:01:52of the government to make sure that those people came back and
00:01:56many others and i was looking at the...
00:02:00of life of our security agents and agencies
00:02:04with what they are doing, we sleep those people are in the
00:02:07bush, and
00:02:08of everybody knows the cause of our insecurity, number one,
00:02:12climate change, number two,
00:02:15of survivor
00:02:16of instincts draw people from warring nation to come to Nigeria,
00:02:20so these
00:02:20are and number three, there was a
00:02:23of time in in Nigeria that people went to those places to bring
00:02:27them
00:02:28of to come and fight because of... and after election the
00:02:32people refuse to go back and they have arms so they now desorted
00:02:36into kidnapping because the this they
00:02:38of discover is saving and they have lot of money from it, but when
00:02:42you have search and you inherited search and
00:02:45of somebody says i'm going to face it end long, america have come into assist
00:02:49us and many things have happened, the
00:02:52most wanted person on earth in
00:02:55ISIS was found in our area and
00:03:00how we now say we have not improved in our security,
00:03:04then when you talk of
00:03:06of poverty, poverty started
00:03:07of when, what is the contribution, what is the
00:03:11approach of Mr. president to poverty, now you have a
00:03:15floating exchange rates and there is no
00:03:18parallel market anymore, read just this
00:03:22morning that our external reserve has
00:03:25of gone to 52 point something billion dollars, that is a
00:03:29credit of... mr president's part, that is what we are saying, we cannot
00:03:33see everything just turn overnight,
00:03:35of it's a gradual process, okay, yes, people are passing
00:03:39through
00:03:40of difficulties, but we are also getting results, which on the
00:03:44law ground Nigeria will
00:04:10a I, I totally agree with with your guest this morning,
00:04:14you see, when you were talking about the politics in this country, there is no
00:04:18how you can separate politics and
00:04:21religious, both
00:04:22of them are five and six, uh, I guess just tell you something that they
00:04:26wanted to vote
00:04:28of in a state, maybe coming this sunday with. their
00:04:30a religious uh, it's also a politic as he rightly said
00:04:34of earlier, the only thing the critic of Mr. President, I just
00:04:38want because this is a program that alloy everyone of us to call
00:04:42him, and then apart from this program we have this morning, we have
00:04:45journalist, that's
00:04:47of why TVC TVC stand out of all the television
00:04:51station we have in this country, you see, I want people to
00:04:54call in and tell us
00:04:56of that what our guest is saying this morning is not true.
00:05:01they should calling to tell us that the net fund is not there, they should call they
00:05:04should calling to tell us that
00:05:06the the road that mr president is doing is not there, and then i'm
00:05:10also very very happy when it was mention. that the person that was
00:05:13criticized Mr. President wrongly in terms
00:05:16of he go there on his own you know
00:05:20why why because I read it that he said that Mr. President should
00:05:23return the school to
00:05:25the to the owner where Mr. President in the lagos according to
00:05:28in fact then I know as well when he was a governor of Lagus state he
00:05:32returned all these school to who belong to up to today are you not
00:05:36telling me that Mr. President should tell the governor of
00:05:39your state governor of state and all that. they should do the same
00:05:43thing before they know the right thing to do, so as I said earlier,
00:05:47in the 2023 election that is already gone, it is very very
00:05:50difficult from the
00:05:52from Mr. President there,
00:05:54you know why, why? because even the political party that he was belong
00:05:58to, everything is against him as at that time, but coming
00:06:012027 has lot of to tell Nigerian people that this is what I'm
00:06:05doing, this is what I've done, and then if he said that he has done this, he has done
00:06:08that, you should tell us that
00:06:10it is a lie, that is why we can be able. to change our mind, but we cannot be able to tell
00:06:14us that Mr. President is lied, that he do this, he
00:06:17do that, believe me in you, Niger, Nigerian is going to f
00:06:21president again,
00:06:24and okay, so I have a comments
00:06:26in answer to, ik
00:06:30judge says politics in church in his block, out the
00:06:33five is because there's nothing like politics in Catholic Church, we don't
00:06:37elect bishops in the catholic church, that's
00:06:41a great mistake. how do they now el the
00:06:44pope? i've been in Rome many times and it's shown
00:06:48life when they want to el the pope when you see the white
00:06:51smok pope has emerged the new pope and of course
00:06:55even election or that is election
00:06:59all the cardinals we vote yes and once they have the
00:07:02highest number then you see the white smoke then everybody celebrate
00:07:06a new pope as m and even the bishops they vote
00:07:10for them and they will elect them. and whoever imagines the
00:07:13winner becomes the bishop, but to my understanding,
00:07:17i don't think that's the politics you're talking about, you're just saying that people will take sides
00:07:21and that inner politics cuz you said you
00:07:25know, i think what is referring to, you said that some the politics within the church
00:07:29is even worse than the politics in with political
00:07:32parties, so i'm saying that from my
00:07:36understanding of what you're saying that there's lots of inside you
00:07:39know, how do you put it politics? inside
00:07:43politics i guess that happened that is not necessarily what you've just described which
00:07:47is electing bishop, electing pope, but we're talking of some the
00:07:51conversations that can happen within that does not usually reflect
00:07:55what has been what is out there for most people to say um to see,
00:07:58so i'm thinking that that's what he's referring to no place,
00:08:02that there is no politics or must either in the romangalic
00:08:06church, in the methodist which belong, in the anglical communion that
00:08:10there's no politics, if there is no politics where how
00:08:13do you prefer one to the other? you say this one is qualified
00:08:17this one? how? the two them are phd, them the attended
00:08:20two the same seminary, and you also even have age
00:08:24barrier in some churches, once you pass the age of 55,
00:08:27you cannot be elected bishop anymore, is that not
00:08:30politics? where do we get that from? that is what people have written
00:08:34down as condition to be made bishop, and there
00:08:38are people that you know they are voca and they try to subject.
00:08:42suppress them, take them to places where they know they will
00:08:46not function maximally, that is politics, that's why we should
00:08:50not question sir, when i said where is the place the holy ghost, the holy
00:08:54spirit, until we get
00:09:25if you look at what happened with Cardinal Yeeneka or
00:09:28something like that, I went to see the president, there's nothing bad in that, which is
00:09:32okay, but when you went there, you had conversation with
00:09:35president, and you now came out, you went to
00:09:39the uh, one the television, which I want to mention. to
00:09:42go and expose what you discuss it is ungodly and
00:09:46it is just unfair you understand somebody that gave you an
00:09:49heart really respect you and you now went to another
00:09:53station to go to go and be pontificating which is very very
00:09:56bad so like what the bishop is saying is that you
00:10:00can criticize but criticize constructively
00:10:04when you criticize constructively almighty god will judge you according to
00:10:08intention what he did with the president he will be judged by almighty
00:10:11god and the person that called uh something
00:10:15like that, it's just unfortunate, okay, look at what said, does
00:10:19you do you want to tell me is not read, you want to tell me that
00:10:23unification of policy is not? you understand you you want to
00:10:27tell me that las road is not there and some other
00:10:30project they are not saying that they should not criticize you are free
00:10:34to criticize but criticize constructively the
00:10:38person that went there when you look at his antecedents he was the one that
00:10:42said that they shouldn't have seen
00:10:45president in 2023 that they should wait for the judgment
00:10:49that so it's just unfortunate the man he should have removed
00:10:52his cock and put NDC part.
00:11:04on has never hidden his name for
00:11:06the president, is that an history?
00:11:08it is criticism, you know,
00:11:10i don't want to refer to that, but since it has come out, you in 2023
00:11:14when president was declared the winner, cardinal nikon said
00:11:18he will not recognize mr president until the v is given at
00:11:22the supreme court which is normal, but said Nigerians have
00:11:26voted and that is what people have said, so
00:11:29until the decision is overturn by this
00:11:33supreme court, that is when you can speak, but for us to say we don't have a
00:11:36president, we told him that we have a president, and
00:11:40you cannot tell us we don't have a president, and what
00:11:44has happened again, that is what we are not happy with, we are now
00:11:48starting the same thing that happened in 2023,
00:11:52bringing and we have no problem with you. having
00:11:55your own candidates, you can have, but don't run
00:11:59down other people's candidates, sell
00:12:02your own candidates, let people see what your candidate have done that
00:12:06justifies him to become the president of Nigeria, and
00:12:09we the people who also believe in Mr. President, let them
00:12:13show the people, yes, and the people don't even need to be told anymore, people
00:12:17have told you deny uh, Legos Kalaba
00:12:21road, deny shagam, bin road, or...
00:12:34of what state government received before now, let them deny,
00:12:38let the governor say
00:12:39it is not real, they are not being given, denied the local government
00:12:42autonomy, that we have been clamoring for many
00:12:45years, mr. president succeeded in doing it, and what a lot of
00:12:49president shir away from, mr. president confronted them at long
00:12:53and is getting result and i
00:12:54say to people, you don't find too many of Mr. President in
00:12:58every generation, they are very few and real, when you have
00:13:02one, maximize their
00:13:37thank uh the bishop,
00:13:40uh, I want to appreciate the bishop for
00:13:43being very
00:13:47frank and open, for the first time we are seeing a
00:13:51man of God that is coming on here to declare where he actually belongs to.
00:13:55and this is fire cry from what some
00:13:58people in the house of God
00:14:02continue to do to pretend to deceive
00:14:05Nigerians, nobody is very clear that
00:14:08cardinal on
00:14:12with due respect, we all know where he belong
00:14:14to, but coming to tell us that
00:14:18is a political, he
00:14:22doesn't have candidate and you are coming you went a
00:14:26visit a real visit to the villa to meet with the president
00:14:30and the only things you can real out in your list
00:14:33is bad news, it
00:14:37is only the dead and the blind. i'm not saying nigeria is
00:14:41ruhuru, no that's not
00:14:43what i'm saying, insecurity, is there insecurity? yes, there is
00:14:46insecurity, is the country hard, yes it is
00:14:50hard, but is the government doing something obviously,
00:14:53yes. so I believe the people that went
00:14:57to the villa should have been so objective
00:15:01enough, at least pretend to be objective
00:15:05by encouraging the president, by telling him this is we
00:15:09have done this, we have done this, we have seen
00:15:12victims were rescued, coudos to you the president, but there
00:15:16is much to be done, then the president will
00:15:19listen, so you want the president to rul out red carpet for
00:15:23his opponent, just because he want to prove that is
00:15:26fair and the man said all is fair in politics
00:15:30provided there is level playing grand what is wrong in
00:15:34that so please i just want to use this
00:15:37opportunity to continue to encourage the
00:15:41bishop adigite, let us know where you are,
00:15:45which you have shown, and let the other men of God that wants to put
00:15:49their hearts to the ring of politics, let them be fair enough
00:15:53to let us know where they belong and stop deceiving
00:16:09leaders to be doing moving forward, there is no need for us to hit up
00:16:13the polity, let us pray for government, let us pray for
00:16:16Mr. President, which is our duty, because if it
00:16:20is not well, it will affect everybody, and we don't have any other
00:16:24country, this is the best country, i came back from journey, i
00:16:28said to you, Nigeria is blessed, anywhere you
00:16:31go, talk of weather, no natural disaster,
00:16:35God is on our side, put your planted. anywhere it will grow, this
00:16:39is the place we belong to, nobody can take
00:16:42Nigerians, no nation in Africa, whether anybody
00:16:46accepts it or not, we remain the giant of Africa because of
00:16:50our number, and that is the number that we must take care of,
00:16:53there are the biggest room in the world is the room of
00:16:57improvement, we can do better, yes, and Mr. President can do
00:17:01better, and he's going to do better, but let us support him, let us pray for
00:17:04him, if we have constructive criticism, criticize
00:17:08and he will listen, it's somebody that has listening here, we have seen it over the years
00:17:12and it's going to be well with Mr. President, be well with all Nigerians,
00:17:16beware with every one of us and this electionaring it
00:17:20is not do or die affairs, let it be
00:17:23peaceful, do your campaign with peace, don't kill anybody,
00:17:27converse for your votes, on the day the election let Nigeria decide, and
00:17:31after election we don't want violence, let the reserve be announced,
00:17:34winner be inaugurated again
00:17:37and let the... name the Lord be glorified and he shall be where with all of
00:17:40us. Thank you so much sir for joining us
00:17:44today and helping us answer some these questions and that's all
00:17:48we can take on this segment with Bishop Steven
00:17:51Adibite executive secretary the Nigerian Christian
00:17:55Pilgrims Commission. Thank you again sir for coming. Thank you very much. We'll go
00:17:59a short break now when we return we'll move to the hot topic for the day. Stay with us.
00:18:03We'll be right
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00:30:58and do you people even think the children?