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00:00:00received some criticism, but his intent was to speak to the whole
00:00:04world about the real problems that the influence of western
00:00:07missionaries and colonialists created in Africa. His
00:00:11life was inspiration and sentimental to western
00:00:15culture, promoting customs and values about
00:00:18traditional African
00:00:20society.
00:00:29in At TVs
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00:00:47of Remedly presents reporters
00:00:52of file, of in parts of Nigeria, there is cause
00:00:55people say in whisper, a spell
00:00:59feared by remain and surrounded by
00:01:02mystery, from generation to
00:01:06generation, stories about
00:01:08of this of charm have circulated across many communities in
00:01:11Nigeria, particularly the Euroba
00:01:15of land.
00:01:19Magun, a
00:01:22traditional charm believed to punish
00:01:25infidelity. The word translated to
00:01:29mean: "do not climb, a warning
00:01:33to any man who does sleep with another man's
00:01:36wife. According to
00:01:40local believe, if woman carries the magun
00:01:43charm, any man who sleeps with her without
00:01:47of removing a or neutralizing it could suffer terrible
00:01:51consequences.
00:01:55of Some claim the spell can cause sudden
00:01:59collapse. during intercourse,
00:02:02of violent convulsions, persistent crowing
00:02:05of like roster or death, unless a ritual
00:02:09specialist
00:02:11a intervens. our trip
00:02:15to the popular motor park at the oroshoki area of Legos
00:02:18State shows that respondents had enough
00:02:22knowledge on the
00:02:24of spell, he has to spend
00:02:25of about like let's say 21 days on that
00:02:29woman body. If any man does
00:02:31of not move closer to her, that woman will die,
00:02:35but any man that move closer to her, during that
00:02:38period the man will die, of course I believe in it, because
00:02:42his culture, his
00:02:44of tradition, and we still have to believe in
00:02:49me a it. of
00:02:58of
00:03:03of
00:03:09o gba iyawo e, so wa le magun fun iyawo
00:03:13e, so that olorun lo wa sọ
00:03:16wipe iyẹn naa strong, so by the time
00:03:19tiyin, ọkọ iyawo
00:03:22yẹ.
00:03:26of
00:03:32in
00:04:00body uh, she want another person die, woman,
00:04:04wicked person, they do her like
00:04:06of that, however
00:04:07it is believed that the only solution for any man who comes in
00:04:11contact with magun is probably an intervention by
00:04:15traditional list. Dr. Owujabi Wahid
00:04:19ayinde is
00:04:20one.
00:04:24Kingdom, he sees that consequences are die for any
00:04:27man who des to ignore the exists.
00:04:32I have
00:04:32of witnessed one or two and I've received
00:04:36patience with such
00:04:39affliction, some one will start crowing, the other one will
00:04:43start running towards the stream, some tumbles, he
00:04:47tumbles tries, so if he tumbles one, if he some
00:04:50ass, some assaulted one, so people will quickly hold
00:04:54to him so that it won't take the two
00:04:57summers, if he takes the third one, that's
00:05:00the head of him, let me explain
00:05:01of something, not only husband
00:05:05place this on the wive, lover, a
00:05:09jealous lover
00:05:10of the wife too could place it on the... wife so that the husband will
00:05:13die, he to will now inherit the woman, they will not have
00:05:17a free hand. in certain percentage of
00:05:21yoruba prepare themselves for such
00:05:23unexpected, they try and fortify
00:05:27themselves with things that will prevent
00:05:30magon in having powers over them,
00:05:34so it could be an hamlet, it could be
00:05:37incision, mutilation and incision, it could be you
00:05:41leak it once a it could be a concussion, a concussion
00:05:45soup where you eat if you have such with you, so when
00:05:49this happens you won't be totally affected
00:05:52100%, you might be 40 or 50% affected, so
00:05:56you can now people can now run around and give
00:05:59you Mr. Yinde further listed the different types and
00:06:03traditional items used to perform
00:06:06magons, the one that makes
00:06:10someone crow crows. that one is
00:06:13prepared, the major ingredient is
00:06:16coke, there are other ingredients too, herbs and
00:06:19roots, so if it is that of where one some
00:06:23ass, some ass and dies
00:06:26off, we make you sometimes of that
00:06:30there, we use this the blood, we
00:06:34use chameleon, the one that the
00:06:38victim would start craving for water is
00:06:41prepared with water, but the water is not ordinary water,
00:06:44sometimes we get the dew, we put bowl outside
00:06:48overnight, like 10 20 bowls,
00:06:52we got a lot of dews, so from the des we gather them,
00:06:56and that the water will now be used, sometimes we use seven
00:06:59waters, coconut water, stream
00:07:02water, ocean water, river
00:07:05water, and some other waters, some waters
00:07:09from the from the dead, while watching the dead, is thrown
00:07:13away, so the spirit the
00:07:16the water dead will do the job, he speaks on the type where a peer become
00:07:19physically inseparable, and we use
00:07:23these when two dogs meet and they are stuck
00:07:27together, so you cut the
00:07:30genital, so the male will go this way, the female
00:07:34will go this way, so the two will die at the end the day, so we
00:07:38will now remove what i needed, according to
00:07:42him, the victim may feel relieved after some rights have
00:07:45been performed, but it will be a while as the person would finally
00:07:49succum to death. it may be f years,
00:07:52it may be se years, may be si years, may be thre years, it
00:07:54depends on how readily
00:07:57powerful he is or he was before the affliction,
00:08:01it will him at the end the
00:08:02day.
00:08:11during the course of this. but we also realized that Magun applies
00:08:14in other parts the country. We met with
00:08:18another traditionalist Isuchuku Steven Chizoba, the
00:08:22Igwe
00:08:23or kalete, popularly known as Celebrity Dibia in
00:08:27Delta State. He
00:08:31said Thunderbolt is real and is the ancestors ways
00:08:35of punishing a wife who cheated on her husband. The gods the
00:08:38land designed punishment for that. Therefore, a married
00:08:42woman should stick to the husband alone,
00:08:46while a married man is permitted to add another wife or
00:08:50many as many wives as possible to his home. now
00:08:53naturally, if you go against this um belief system
00:08:57as a married woman going
00:09:01outside or sleeping outside, the nature punishes you by bringing either
00:09:05sending lightning or perform of thunder to
00:09:09either strike the lady or the man.
00:09:12man who is having affair with the married woman outside her matrimonial
00:09:16home right, it meant it is meant to kill
00:09:19immediately a spot, so originally we know that
00:09:23nature takes that effect, but these days we can use
00:09:26charm to tell the nature take your place, this is what you are supposed to
00:09:30do, either you die there or you get stucked in
00:09:34there, so it's either nature does it or we
00:09:37use charm implement that, warning husbands, he
00:09:41stress that there are clauses to the effectiveness the
00:09:45charm women will say gender inequality, gender
00:09:49inequality, fine, i will tell men before you do
00:09:52that and it gets effective, make sure
00:09:56you as married man that is doing that to your wife to protect
00:10:00your wife, you don't have affair with another married
00:10:03woman, because as married man if i'm having affair with the married
00:10:07woman outside my home, if i put that in my wife
00:10:10it does not work. is not failure the
00:10:14charm, is not
00:10:15it's nature taking its place, because my
00:10:18people say the
00:10:21us measuring any substance for anybody. c the use for your
00:10:25own measurement. however, the process of making the charm is
00:10:29slightly different in the eastern path of
00:10:32Nigeria. give different ways in which you
00:10:36can invoke that thunder a thunder boot and
00:10:39um woman, your wife without her knowing. i said you can
00:10:43put tread, you can put needle, some you put
00:10:47the broom, pin it down, whenever it happens she gets stucked or
00:10:51conjoined with the partner, but rituals i
00:10:55said something about pulling out the broom, broomstick, flugging
00:10:59the two parties, which it is very painful, don't think it's just a
00:11:02broomstick flug, it is very painful, if must tell you the
00:11:06truth, then some them like the one of fred, the
00:11:10the Habbalist, because not everybody who does it is an
00:11:13abalist, the abalis who um, who
00:11:17prepared the charm for that man or the husband of that woman
00:11:21will tell the man if this happens see this water see?
00:11:25sprinkle this water on them or see this colar note,
00:11:28use this col note to declare whatever you
00:11:31want to want it to happen, break it, see this native
00:11:34shop, different rituals, some will tell you okay, once you see it
00:11:38stock, you take egg, you break egg, they get
00:11:42separated, there are some charms that the
00:11:46so aim is to render a man having affair with my wife
00:11:49useless, another sh might be to render the man
00:11:52impotent the counting. another one will be
00:11:56any man who crosses my wife will die, then another one
00:12:00will be anyone who crosses my wife will run mad,
00:12:04another one will now be this conjoining which i want to see
00:12:08you in this art, dwelling on the conjoining part, i think
00:12:11that is the best them all because i would want to see
00:12:15you, see you, just get
00:12:17it in mind that once it happens, it is a dent in that
00:12:21family, i would advise a man to invoke this st.
00:12:25that boats whichever form it is in his wife
00:12:28because when it happens it is very difficult to take that
00:12:32person
00:12:33back.
00:12:37according to local believes a man who sleeps with
00:12:41woman who has been lased with such charm
00:12:45could suffer sudden illness, madness
00:12:49and even death. now while these stories are
00:12:52widely told, medical expert. believe that some the
00:12:56things we refer to as traditional terms
00:13:00could actually be medical conditions.
00:13:04Wanting to know more, we decided to seek what
00:13:07science think the particular
00:13:10type that causes partners to stick
00:13:13together, though there hasn't been any
00:13:16scientific research to back the existence of maggun, but
00:13:20Africans believe showed the dependence these
00:13:24supernatural. by those who have seen it
00:13:27work, but safeguarding practitioner, nola solomon
00:13:31based in the UK says she respects the African
00:13:34belief, before colonization we had our beliefes, we had our
00:13:38culture, we have things that we believe could
00:13:40happen, however we can minimize the
00:13:44biological and scientific explanations to what
00:13:47our beliefs are, she speaks on
00:13:51penis captivus, a medical term for partners. getting
00:13:55temporarily stuck together during sexual
00:13:58intercourse, penis captivus
00:14:01happens when a man and woman are having
00:14:05intercourse and during orgasm, especially for the
00:14:08woman, the muscles contract and trapped the and trap the
00:14:12penis, for men this is
00:14:16very painful
00:14:18experience, most times it happens
00:14:21and within minutes or seconds it stops. when the
00:14:25muscles relax and the swelling stops
00:14:28and the man can come out if he if he had any form of
00:14:32swelling, but in some cases that contraction
00:14:35happens claps the penis
00:14:38and it doesn't just go away
00:14:42within minutes or seconds like it would in some cases, in those
00:14:45cases they will need medical attention, she says though is
00:14:49ray in humans but it usually happens, they go
00:14:53to hospitals and the doctor. will do what is necessary, in some cases they will
00:14:57give steroids or anything to relax the muscles
00:15:01and then the penis will come out, so the more the
00:15:04contractions happens, the blood
00:15:08flow to the penis is restricted, it causes
00:15:11swelling and it's a painful experience, so in
00:15:15those cases the people get scared, the man screams because he's in
00:15:18pain, and traditionally is believed that is
00:15:22repercussion, so i can't
00:15:25dispute why it happens to people or what the
00:15:28beliefes are, we can't do that, because we have to respect culture and
00:15:32belief, but scientifically, this is the
00:15:36explanation.
00:15:45believe in maggun still holds powerful
00:15:49influence in parts of our society, while
00:15:52experts advised that matters involving health or sudden
00:15:56illness should always be handled by qualified medical
00:16:00professionals. African traditional believers believe such
00:16:03cases must be handled the traditional ways.
00:16:07Betis Magun a supernatural punishment,
00:16:11psychological weapon or simply one the
00:16:15most powerful cultural myth ever told.
00:16:19In a country where ancient tradition meets modern
00:16:22science, the answer may depend on what people
00:16:26choose to believe, but one thing is certain
00:16:29across Nigeria, Magun has
00:16:33become that one word that some main drawing.
00:17:08"the human face is a primary means of identification and the
00:17:12social significant marker of a person's identity, but for some
00:17:16children the identity has been altered due to
00:17:19congenital defects. one of such defects is cleft
00:17:23sleep and pallets which develops in children when there is
00:17:27poor fusion of facial tissues in the wormb leading to
00:17:31openings in upper lip or roof the mouth. a cleflipper
00:17:35paled is formed in the early stages of" pregnancy where
00:17:38the anomaly, this body is a midline where it
00:17:42doesn't form and it doesn't come together, it's kind of like
00:17:45spinabida, your body just doesn't fuse, so the muscle
00:17:49tissues in the face are deformed, it's an anomaly,
00:17:53there's no reasoning behind it, it's genetics, it's
00:17:56environmental triggers, it's lack of prenatal care,
00:18:00and that's what we want to educate the the mothers that prenatal
00:18:04care is important and that there is access, is hope there
00:18:08are teams and there are doctors here that can help within the walls of
00:18:12bagada general hospital I got emotional as the
00:18:16story
00:18:16of 15 year old Daniel caught my attention, his mother
00:18:20recounts the trauma she experienced when she discovered he was
00:18:24born with cleffed pallet. when i gave back to
00:18:28him i noticed that when you give him something some liquid
00:18:32anything it takes it comes through his nose only take
00:18:35back little but took him down to the hospital,
00:18:39they said i should just that with time, because he the are
00:18:43twins, so i came
00:18:46back to take care of him, but as he's growing,
00:18:50we we are doing it, daniel came last
00:18:53fall when we were here in November, and
00:18:56unfortunately just before his surgery he
00:19:00developed malaria, and of course we can't do surgery a
00:19:04patient who's sick, and so we had to postpone. so
00:19:07this morning we will do it, and we've already had him
00:19:11evaluated by our speech therapist, and she's going to give
00:19:15him some things that he can work after his
00:19:18surgery to to improve his speech
00:19:22even more. during my interactions with Daniel, i
00:19:26experienced a zeal and enthusiasm first
00:19:29hand. it tells me is excited
00:19:33about the possibility of finally speaking clearly like other children.
00:19:38after the surgery, the last embarrassment was in the school, he
00:19:41wanted to participate in one the this rushing
00:19:45game, they were to drink coca-cola, and
00:19:49immediately just everything started gushing from his
00:19:53nose and the propiator has to call that,
00:19:56so he was so embarrassed
00:20:00that
00:20:01you know that was the last experience we had from
00:20:03him,
00:20:07Exell
00:20:20story is not different, the pain and frustration of watching a
00:20:24child being repeatedly ostracized by pierce pushed his
00:20:28mother to seek a lasting solution with the
00:20:32feeder and we find out that baby take the food instead of to go
00:20:36in it's coming out from the nose. so it
00:20:39was not like little, it was much, and
00:20:43that the same moment you be struggling to save the baby's life because the baby will be like
00:20:47choking, we did the first sur six months. because
00:20:51the whole inside the mouth was open,
00:20:54all the whole up was open, so probably baby
00:20:58cry, you will see the the brain from the
00:21:00mouth, so it was bad as
00:21:03that, as
00:21:07Exel is wheeld to the theatre, expectations are high
00:21:11that when he returns, it will begin new chapter where he can
00:21:15smile, speak without
00:21:17difficulty,
00:21:25The surgical procedure began with the administration of
00:21:28anesthesia to prepare the patient for surgery.
00:21:32I witness the procedure life and it was difficult to hold back
00:21:36my emotions as I watched each step, the process of
00:21:39putting smiles on the faces these
00:21:42families.
00:21:46Doctors say the procedure for cleft sleep takes an hour to two.
00:21:50while cases of Leip Pallets takes two to th
00:21:54hours. The
00:21:57organization says interventions like this remain crucial
00:22:01because every child deserves equal chance at life to
00:22:05speak, grow and be fully included in
00:22:08society regardless of congenital conditions. This is
00:22:12very enduring project because um it
00:22:15has to do with the life and if you notice these children they
00:22:19have. this stigma either in school or within the
00:22:23community because they have this whole
00:22:25you know and then they've been finding it so difficult eat and it's also
00:22:29affecting their nutritions you know
00:22:31but what we have done here what you are here to do is to conduct these
00:22:35surgeries on these children and make them happy and
00:22:38reintegrate back to the society. children are priceless
00:22:42assets and um when we pay attention to their
00:22:46health, to their welfare and to their development.
00:22:50"we are helping the nation, because it is said that healthy nation is a
00:22:54wealthy nation. one the beneficiaries of a previous
00:22:57surgery who is now better and living more confidently
00:23:01is reminder of what timely intervention can
00:23:04achieve. before the surgery is always by himself,
00:23:08nobody want to play with him, nobody want to believe with him, he
00:23:12always feel timed and shy also loting people because the
00:23:15deformity of his mouth, but after the
00:23:18surgery." has been happy, he can
00:23:22now play with everybody, relates freely with
00:23:25everybody, and also it has been so
00:23:29much lively. As this organizations continue to put
00:23:33smiles on the faces of children and their families, there is a growing need
00:23:36to confront traditional believes and myth that still surround congenital
00:23:40birth defects. This is because beyond the medical challenge,
00:23:44exclusion and stigma often denied this children the
00:23:48rights and opportunities. need to thrive in the
00:23:51society. Glory Arimu, TVC
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00:28:33irresponsible journalism, not to raise it with you, why
00:28:36frame such a question in
00:28:38either,
00:28:43that's a great question, that's a very, very important
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00:28:49didn't see quite much difference between my give friend,
00:28:52a
00:28:53shut break, up between what
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00:28:59but now that emotions have cool, wanted to ask if you guys have
00:29:02settled or wik is still in the bad books of APC executives?
00:29:06nobody is in the bad book of anybody,
00:29:10what's your relationship with mr governor like right? oh my
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00:29:16my
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