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00:00:38am today on the program YEC releases
00:00:43of 2026 results with
00:00:44of 1.2 million candidates pass in English and
00:00:49of mathematics with those
00:00:50167,486
00:00:54results over exam mal practice. President
00:00:58Tunuubu orders EFC's. to get an order
00:01:02on freezing orsum state account opposes timing
00:01:05of action and later on the show northern senators
00:01:09forum congratulates quar state on rescue of war or
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00:01:14of victims, well i'll be hanging out
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00:01:36of Now let's begin the conversation, it is said that
00:01:40examination mal practice may improve a
00:01:43of score, but it never improves mind, hence the needs to
00:01:47discourage it, while the west african examination council W
00:01:50recorded slight decline in examination mal practice
00:01:54cases in the 2026 West African senior school certificate
00:01:58examination it. failed
00:02:03of 167,486 results. The head of Wayak
00:02:06Nigeria National
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00:02:10of of Office Amos Jezier Dunget said the figure is 1.11%
00:02:13of lower in than the 9.7%
00:02:18of of of recorded in u 2025, but it warned that the increase that
00:02:21of the increasing use of cell phone in the examination hall in
00:02:25spite
00:02:25of the existing ban and organized cheating in some schools
00:02:29and continue to threaten the credibility and
00:02:32quality of Nigeria's education
00:02:36system. All
00:02:38of right, let's start this way, I mean with only 1.2
00:02:41million candidates, which are percentage wise
00:02:4461.54% of
00:02:47a candidates obtaining credits passes, including
00:02:50English and mathematics. Should this be viewed
00:02:56in
00:02:56a as? of well,
00:03:00"we always want to see better
00:03:03of performance, better performance
00:03:08of of than uh what was witnessed in the preceding
00:03:11year, but we've seen worse
00:03:15cases, you seen
00:03:17of worse cases
00:03:19of and that is why and
00:03:21a we cautiously say this is not a
00:03:25bad result, if um you
00:03:29have a situation" in which 61%
00:03:32of obtained credits above um
00:03:36uh credits and above in
00:03:37of five subjects, you cannot
00:03:39of say that is all
00:03:40of together a bad performance because we certainly have
00:03:43seen um
00:03:45of years of when it was lot worse um
00:03:49this
00:03:52of 1.959.668
00:03:55of candidates from 24,207 schools
00:03:58and across Nigeria, Berne Republic, Code
00:04:02divoir and Equatorial Guine.
00:04:06So the sat for the
00:04:09exam, one of
00:04:13this figures 61.54, obtain
00:04:16credits and above in five subjects, including
00:04:20English. This is what
00:04:23universities Star Institutions will ask of
00:04:26you, so it means that more
00:04:30than 61.5%
00:04:32of the candidates who
00:04:34a sat for this
00:04:35examination can get
00:04:39into
00:04:40of tartiary institutions, all
00:04:44that they need to do is to also pass those entry
00:04:46examinations like
00:04:50of jam as it is the case in our
00:04:52of country and then the post jump
00:04:55examination postme um
00:04:59ex so it's not
00:05:02of a bad
00:05:04result, but the students can do much
00:05:08better, what I'm worried about is
00:05:11of the
00:05:11of increasing, mm pension of
00:05:15um candidates to cheat to gain the
00:05:19system and the people continually
00:05:22using cell phones inside the examination
00:05:26hs is what uh we should
00:05:29discourage
00:05:31167,486 candidates had
00:05:35their um
00:05:38research with held representing uh
00:05:428.59%
00:05:47and this is 1.11 percent lower
00:05:51than the 9.7% recorded in
00:05:542005, so this is also an improvement,
00:05:58something that we need to be happy about that
00:06:01the the number of wetiled
00:06:05results
00:06:05declined,
00:06:09so that's the of course again.
00:06:14um the gender, the performance
00:06:17of female candidates
00:06:21was noticeably better
00:06:23than uh the performance the male
00:06:27candidates,
00:06:2828.65%
00:06:31the
00:06:32candidates um
00:06:36got five credits
00:06:37including English and
00:06:41maths. what 32.89%
00:06:45of female candidates got um
00:06:49passed English and mass, five credits and
00:06:53including English and mass, so is
00:06:56um, it's a miss
00:06:59grill, in some places, in some situations you can say
00:07:03yes, this is good enough, some
00:07:07cases you can say no, as I talked about earlier,
00:07:10anything um... that shows a decline
00:07:14actually we tell result we can say this is good news
00:07:18okay and then certainly
00:07:22um we cannot say that a situation in
00:07:25which 1.2 million the
00:07:29candidates passed english mass
00:07:33english and mass and
00:07:36did
00:07:38uh score up to five credits we cannot
00:07:41say um, they've not done well, okay?
00:07:4460, 61%
00:07:47is way above pas mark, we will want
00:07:51to see improvement in future, but don't forget that
00:07:55these figures and these
00:07:58statistics harvested
00:08:00include candidates from other countries,
00:08:04okay? so we are not talking about nigerians
00:08:07alone, because it's not an examination body for Nigerians
00:08:11alone, so... uh they they have not distilled
00:08:15the data in such a way that we can determine
00:08:18whether a good chunk these people do did not do
00:08:22well were actually from equatorial ginning um
00:08:26code divoir ben republic okay and
00:08:29other countries involved so um
00:08:33i think that
00:08:35the we can do
00:08:38better pupis can do better okay and I
00:08:42want to see greater attention paid to
00:08:46um improving on the integrity
00:08:50these examination and one the ways to do
00:08:52it is to ensure that nobody can get away with
00:08:55cheating once we are able to do that the
00:08:59examinations integrity will go up and
00:09:03we know that whatever scored five credits in the
00:09:07school examination wask must have
00:09:11hand it okay. so okay, that is
00:09:15my submission. all right, today, why said the mal practice
00:09:18cases have reduced, yet we see over
00:09:22167, but i want
00:09:24to know, should we celebrate this or should we be alarmed by the share
00:09:28number of suspected cases?
00:09:30well,
00:09:34to have seated during the exams, over
00:09:36167, it means that the
00:09:40examination bodies, the school. and the parents because most of
00:09:44those cases of shootings is result of
00:09:47connevance between the school authorities, the
00:09:50parents, because you don't have to shy away from that, the parents and the
00:09:54system, the system in the fact that you have some schools that
00:09:57invitates to look, look the other side
00:10:01where the students are committing shitting, and that is case of
00:10:05collaboration between the school management, those schools are organized
00:10:08private centers, special centers and parents.
00:10:12centers miracle centers and parents induce yes
00:10:15induce invitators induce schools there are some school that charge
00:10:19specific f so you can't imagine by before the resort come out
00:10:23some people some school advertise that next year we are going to make
00:10:2790%, 90% going to pass mathematics and in English
00:10:31when your students are here to see for the exams, so I think
00:10:35what you have to do is that like GD said you have to give
00:10:38credibility to the system, yes there has to be a system which
00:10:42schools are properly monitored, they talked about the use of cell
00:10:45phones, use of cell phones, because you see you cannot if the
00:10:49inigilating thing is done well without the connovance of
00:10:53school authorities, I keep on saying. there are some schools that bribed invitators
00:10:57to look away while the students muggle in cell phones, i
00:11:01think something has to be done up and penalty
00:11:05have to schools that most these
00:11:08schools are the ones most these private schools are capable in this
00:11:12thing because they want to impress parents who paid so much
00:11:15money for their words to pass by all means
00:11:19necessary so if they are the ones if they are f grity i think they
00:11:23should be penalized. if they are penalized it to serve as deterrant
00:11:27to others, because when schools are found to
00:11:31be collaborating with students and digilators, it
00:11:35has undermined the integrity the system, and at the end the day you see why I'm
00:11:39not so particularly impressed, most the universities what brought about the
00:11:43UTME is the fact that when the
00:11:46students they claim to get A1 in English, a1 mathematics
00:11:50in all the core subjects, when they get to the university after the first semester
00:11:54exam okay. semester exam you discover that they could
00:11:57not match their performance in work could not match
00:12:01their performance in school and you could not match it means the
00:12:05certificate you obtained the result you obtained to gain admission you are
00:12:09not the one that wrote it if you're not the one that you not be able to meet up
00:12:13with the first year in school and most no there was a particular year that university
00:12:17have to exp advice 200 students about 7 years ago
00:12:21to withdraw from 100 level it means something is wrong
00:12:25with the examination system, it means they are unable to defend
00:12:28certificate they carry, and if they are unable to defend the certificate,
00:12:32what is the use the examination, which means the examination system has been
00:12:36compromised, and when you have an examination compromised, you cannot really, and
00:12:39that brought about the issue of jump,
00:12:42t, there's no need for it, because if
00:12:45somebody scores a one is six subjects, there's no need for you to
00:12:49ask, you want to test him again, because he has proven beyond that,
00:12:53but because of this... malpractices
00:12:55and the the experience the school espcially the gre
00:12:59on the the first generation university
00:13:01universityif what they experience
00:13:05with students who claim to have good result is a
00:13:09contrast to the result they claim to have and as result of that they
00:13:12pressurize at UTMU but before we go what message does this
00:13:16widespread examination mark practice send to serious students who
00:13:20succeed through hard work well well well i think they
00:13:24the the the just have to remain, they have to remain what they are,
00:13:27because at the end the day you see the result that you have, you be
00:13:31able to devend it anywhere, he should be able to know that whatever they have, even when
00:13:35you manage to get the minimum entry requirement to the university,
00:13:39okay, if it is your result, the result that you wrote
00:13:43yourself, at
00:13:43the end the day does not stop you from making a first class exactly, does not
00:13:47stop you from making a so the f that somebody sheated and you know that the person
00:13:51shoted he got high grace does not honestly mean that he will finish better
00:13:55than you, so if you manage to score five credits and
00:13:58somebody, the cumulative is about 65% after the
00:14:02UTME and
00:14:03the other guys call 85%,
00:14:05it is after the first or second semester exam in school that you know who
00:14:09really worked hard, really worked, so think it is better for students to keep on working
00:14:13hard, and their certificates, i like what b said that
00:14:17until they distill the
00:14:19data
00:14:24examination. No, okay, we are await that one. All right, let's take a trip to
00:14:28Oshin State, shall we? Okay, our next
00:14:32conversation, while politics may cause division, governance
00:14:36must never be allowed to hold people hostage.
00:14:40President Bolatinobu has directed the economic and financial crimes
00:14:43commission EFCC to immediately unfreeze the
00:14:47oshin state government's accounts. President Tinubu describes the
00:14:51agency's decision made just days before the... governorship
00:14:55election as embarrassing, the move follows
00:14:59widespread criticism that the account uh restriction
00:15:02appeared politically motivated.
00:15:06okay uh, this matters generated a whole lot of you,
00:15:10comments, but the president's directive to the EFCC to
00:15:14unfreeze uh the accounts the state government, to
00:15:18you, what does it
00:15:19signal?
00:15:23i think it was the right decision. taken by the
00:15:27president, okay, my only
00:15:30disappointment is that it should have
00:15:34been the office the attorney general the federate.
00:15:38issuing that statement,
00:15:40okay, with of course with
00:15:44the um approval the
00:15:47president,
00:15:51that is my only as for whether it was
00:15:55right to take that decision, i will say it was
00:15:59right. i have spoken to some
00:16:01people yesterday that what was the point
00:16:05in doing this? You see, there are some people around the
00:16:09president who do not give him good advice,
00:16:13oh okay, and if indeed the president did not
00:16:16know that this action was
00:16:20taken, then it's very unfortunate,
00:16:23because every evil
00:16:26action is blamed on the
00:16:30president, okay, if
00:16:33rights in the ministry of interior, the president doesn't get.
00:16:49whereas somebody gives approval
00:16:51for his actions, somebody
00:16:55appointed him to that position and that
00:16:58person agrees with
00:17:01him to take those big
00:17:04decisions, he cannot appropriate money to himself.
00:17:09but in our country, every voting is blamed on the
00:17:12president,
00:17:16even if people find it difficult to copulate in the right way, it
00:17:19is still b that is pressed, that is
00:17:22blamed, so I can understand the tone and the
00:17:26messaging in the
00:17:27president the
00:17:30presidential statement, in law, it
00:17:34is the person who signs a statement, that
00:17:38is deemed the author the statement, I am
00:17:42aware, for example, okay,
00:17:45that the the general the
00:17:47federation
00:17:50input was
00:17:53clearly sort even
00:17:57in putting this together, so it's not like something
00:18:00that was done over the head of
00:18:02latif, the chief law officer of our country,
00:18:06no,
00:18:10was uh invited and he made
00:18:14his input, but at the end the day is the president
00:18:17who then officially or thought
00:18:20this, I knew from reading
00:18:24that is different to
00:18:27the usual press statements issued by the media office the president, so I
00:18:31knew that this was different thing, but
00:18:35people had been at. backing the president, oh he wants to read
00:18:39election, this and coming not far
00:18:43away from the
00:18:47statement made, the unfortunate statement made by
00:18:50cardinal nayekon that inobu is
00:18:54desperate to win, such a statement that shouldn't have come
00:18:57from respected clergyman, coming
00:19:01not far away from there, you can understand how the president was
00:19:05thinking, because when people take
00:19:09this kind of actions, it can
00:19:12have kind of boomerang
00:19:15effect even on the outcome the
00:19:18election as it concerns the ruling party,
00:19:22today some the people that i spoke to said
00:19:25clearly that action was already
00:19:28handing sympathy for
00:19:31the for the candidate of accord
00:19:35party. this
00:19:39the
00:19:40the the, i agree with the president that
00:19:42DFCC can take some
00:19:46actions on his own, but
00:19:50clearly the timing of this coming so close to an
00:19:54election, just a little over a week to an election, will
00:19:58send the signal that these people are desperate to win by all means, so they
00:20:02want to deny um accord
00:20:05party the opportunity to be able to uh, mean
00:20:09to
00:20:09use public
00:20:13funds, because everyone now literally
00:20:17believes that the way to win an election in our country is to buy votes, i'm
00:20:21embarrassed by some of what people are
00:20:23posting, showing clearly that
00:20:27money was already being transferred to people ahead the election, this thing happened in
00:20:31equity some years back,
00:20:35you can't be transferring money. to people
00:20:39ahead the election, we got to do
00:20:42something about vote buying, and we know that
00:20:45IFCC on every election day, they tried their best
00:20:49to... less people involved in vote buying, but
00:20:53when you take this kind of action, as you as a
00:20:57politician as a political tactician, he knows that this will boomerang
00:21:01on his party, and I'm impressed
00:21:05that he had to call the governor, because whatever people may
00:21:08say, the governor as shown
00:21:12clearly that Ashwaju is someone that he wants to
00:21:16support, he is ready to work for, so the president will...
00:21:20want to be a position where the governor thinks that the president
00:21:24has joined other people to bring him down
00:21:27okay, because he said clearly that look, we refuse to
00:21:31feel the candidate because we have endorsed you,
00:21:34so the as you knows that he owes it a
00:21:37duty to be fear to a man who has announced
00:21:41publicly that he is going to back him in the
00:21:44election, so after the governorship election there will be other
00:21:48elections, so
00:21:52my own, i appreciate what has been
00:21:55done, because people will now see that this president
00:21:59wants to allow a level playing feed, and we've seen presidents like
00:22:02that in this country,
00:22:06when Osho mole won the
00:22:09election, he was happy, he
00:22:12thank the president at the time that he did not use
00:22:16federal might, the same thing happened in '
00:22:20and bra state, the president refused to get
00:22:23involved, so I believe that no
00:22:26matter how people are thinking, this president
00:22:30wants to show, the governor
00:22:34of state that look, if you are
00:22:37going to lose this election, it will not be because I got
00:22:40involved, and the signal now from
00:22:44this, what I can see clearly is that the
00:22:48APC - they want to win, they must win
00:22:51fairly, because
00:22:55if they don't win fairly, people will point at some the what has
00:22:58happened, because this amounts to harassment on
00:23:02the part the EFCC, and they've been saying that some the
00:23:05EFCC have arrested some their people and
00:23:09and other, they've been harassing some their people, so it was a good
00:23:13thing, the only thing I disagree with is the
00:23:17president um, come from the
00:23:21general person this statements. i know that
00:23:25when people are put under pressure, this sort of thing can happen. okay, the
00:23:29AGF should have been the one given this instruction.
00:23:32after all, the AGF has
00:23:36power to withdraw any
00:23:39criminal case against
00:23:41anybody, without anybody questioning him, he has the
00:23:45power to do knowledge prosecute
00:23:47anywhere. is the person has that
00:23:51power and he is the person among the ministers, he
00:23:54is the most senior minister by hierarchy and is the
00:23:58minister whose role cannot be
00:24:02delegated to anyone,
00:24:05so the attorney general the federation should have been allowed
00:24:09to get in touch with the EFCC and say look, this is
00:24:13not the time for this, let's do it to still
00:24:17achieve the same aim, if you if At least he says, I
00:24:21have the directive the president to call
00:24:24off what you have done at this
00:24:27stage,
00:24:28the signal that this one sense is that the
00:24:31president um has
00:24:34the uh um latitude
00:24:38to uh stop any prosecution on the part the
00:24:42EFCC, and the president must
00:24:44give that clear
00:24:48sign, okay, that it
00:24:49does not get involved in uh
00:24:52what dfc is doing all
00:24:54right because already people have been saying this not
00:24:58just about - alone so whatever
00:25:01action he takes that appears that he can really nearly
00:25:05stop the FCC from taking action from doing his
00:25:09work will send the wrong signal that
00:25:13oh that means this one maybe they fail to
00:25:16clear with him they clear with him before. they can
00:25:20proceed with their work, i like the fact that
00:25:24this uh on freezing would happen, now they have to go to
00:25:28court, okay, to get the order the
00:25:31court, freeze the account, all right then, we need to go on
00:25:35this uh quick break right now, okay, and when we return to about time, i'm going to be
00:25:39asking you, did the EFCC drop the ball here, we get to
00:25:43talk about this right after this break, don't go
00:25:46anywhere,
00:26:08All right, you're welcome back, it's still journalist hangout, I still have today about right
00:26:11here with me, and
00:26:13BK, okay, at right there,
00:26:17Abuja studios, so before we went on that break, I ask you, according to the
00:26:21EFCC, they said they observe suspicious activities in
00:26:25that on that account, and according to the section 34 the EFC
00:26:28act, they have a right to, did the EFCC do the right thing? or
00:26:32your opinion did they drop the ball here? well, actually, under normal
00:26:36circumstance, if we are a normal political
00:26:39environment, every institution like the president said, is free
00:26:43to act independently being being
00:26:47presurized, breat upon by the president or any other
00:26:50senior officer the state, okay, but because what the AFC has done
00:26:54is being feeled as wrong because it is politic is seen as been
00:26:58politically inexpedient at this particular moment to make them.
00:27:11the president seems
00:27:11to have been b to a corner that the president is trying to
00:27:15use his powers to stop the AFCC ordinarily if there's no
00:27:19election okay when you look at the the the
00:27:22account in question is the ecological
00:27:25accountecological the entire account
00:27:29ecological fund account the state government. the
00:27:32EFCC, they have been politically inexpedient, maybe we will
00:27:36have expected that the EFCC should study the mood the polity
00:27:40before taking any decision, but that directive in effect is also
00:27:44affecting the independence the EFCC or any other
00:27:47institution of government, is this the first time the EFCC is doing
00:27:50this, probably close to the election, is this the first
00:27:54time
00:27:55the efc very close to the election, close to the election,
00:27:59because if you look at different states has done something like this?
00:28:04no, it has no record so far, but when you look at the f that for instance if the police
00:28:08should go and arrest or should the son of a senior
00:28:11person in government is involved any criminal act few
00:28:15days or few weeks to the election, are you now
00:28:19asking the will you ask the police not to arrest the person or not to try the person?
00:28:23i think this thing has also put ash government in very difficult
00:28:27situation, you know why why the eFCC will be on the will
00:28:31still be doing their job? after the election, if any
00:28:34fraction is seem to have been done, they will go
00:28:38back and begin to do what they are supposed to do, because what they are saying is
00:28:41that ecological fund is not political fund, you
00:28:45understand
00:28:46that the money is being withdrawn not for the purpose for which
00:28:49it is meant for, the AFC can hide on that thing, but because in the
00:28:53political environment in which we are operating today,
00:28:56it is not expedient and they have put the president a very tight corner
00:29:00by assuming that the president is using
00:29:03EFCC to stop the other party so that his own party can
00:29:07have an upper hand, okay? so so the problem is
00:29:11because the political environment in which we are operating, and that is why
00:29:15we can say the AFCC has done the wrong thing, it's because we are reading political
00:29:19motive to it, but naturally under normal circumstance, they are
00:29:22doing their job as they have been doing, so the president's
00:29:25action president action yes, because to be able
00:29:29to d the political tension, the political tension. average nigerian
00:29:33average voter on the street like said on the streets
00:29:36of the easiest interpretation is that the
00:29:40president has tied back the hand of
00:29:44governor perception the
00:29:48election, but as it is now the president has
00:29:50also and maybe i say he has over demonstrated to the whole
00:29:54world that is not interested in guiding any the okay
00:29:58shows that the president is neutral in.
00:30:11from performing their job after the election, like i said
00:30:14that account will still be under scrutiny under scrutiny, that account
00:30:18will still be under scrutiny after the election, maybe has what done,
00:30:22EFC they have been politically right is to wait
00:30:26until the election and begin to now call
00:30:30for investigation or investigate or ask. people that have made that
00:30:33withdraw, if it
00:30:34is not the governor that has given, because the governor has immunity, okay,
00:30:38you cannot question what the governor
00:30:39has done, but for those people committed the infraction, other actors that other
00:30:43actors that committed the infraction, they have answer to give
00:30:47at later day, all right then okay
00:30:50gentlemen, let's move straight to our next
00:30:53conversation, hope grows
00:30:57stronger each time captives reget.