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00:00:30Volodymyr Zelensky again and demanding his removal,
00:00:33in parallel with the announcement that Russian
00:00:37oil products will enter the American
00:00:39market. At the same time, security experts
00:00:43met this week in Chisinau,
00:00:46and the European Commission proposes a series of modifications that could
00:00:50facilitate the future
00:01:10this time not face to face, but a verbal dispute between
00:01:13Kyiv and Washington. We are witnessing a new episode of
00:01:17the Oval Office February 2025. Yes, it is a
00:01:21real war of declarations. We see social networks
00:01:24invaded by positions from both sides. We see how
00:01:28Russian propaganda manages to speculate this moment,
00:01:32it is still not clear what the American
00:01:35administration wants to achieve. President
00:01:38Trump mentioned that there would even be an energy truce
00:01:42between Moscow and Kyiv,
00:01:45a statement that Ukraine rejected. On
00:01:49the other hand, Moscow has a
00:01:52managed to suspicious silence, we know from sources on the ground that the Russian Federation
00:01:56has intensified efforts to...
00:02:00reoccupy some regions in the Donbas region
00:02:03recently liberated by Ukraine. We also see
00:02:06efforts to consolidate Black Sea security after
00:02:09the sinking of a number of ships in
00:02:12recent days. So it is clearly a world in
00:02:15constant change and it is very likely that President Trump
00:02:19will have another speech in a few days. The electoral pressure for November
00:02:34After a conversation between the presidents of the United States and Russia, the Washington
00:02:38administration temporarily authorized
00:02:40component in an attempt to deliveries of Russian diesel. The decision provoked criticism in Kyiv and
00:02:43Europe, where officials warn that revenues from fuel
00:02:47exports contribute to financing the war against
00:02:49Ukraine. The Moldova Security Forum
00:02:522026 reunited this week in Chisinau officials and experts
00:02:56from over 20 countries to analyze security risks generated by
00:03:00Russia's war against Ukraine. Violations of the airspace of
00:03:03the Republic of Moldova and hybrid threats have brought back into discussion
00:03:07the strengthening of national defense and cooperation with European partners and
00:03:10NATO. The European Commission has proposed new mechanisms to
00:03:14facilitate the enlargement of the European Union, including roadmaps for the Republic of
00:03:17Moldova and other candidate states. Through the new initiatives, Brussels wants to
00:03:21reduce the risk of political blockages and strengthen guarantees regarding compliance with
00:03:25European
00:03:26values.
00:03:31On Saturday, after a telephone conversation with the Kremlin leader
00:03:34Vladimir Putin, the White House leader Donald Trump announced
00:03:37that he would allow the delivery of Russian
00:03:41diesel. The decision was criticized both in Kyiv and in
00:03:45by the Russian occupation the American Congress, but also raised concerns, especially
00:03:49in Brussels. This controversy erupts
00:03:53just as efforts are being made to bring
00:03:56the three parties back to the negotiating table.
00:04:00In the meantime, Ukrainian cities are subjected to intense
00:04:03shelling by the Russian Federation, only this
00:04:07week dozens of people have lost
00:04:11their lives in those attacks carried
00:04:14out by Russian forces. What happened this week on
00:04:18the front and what does this diplomatic ballet of
00:04:29on Saturday with Russian President Vladimir Putin, American leader Donald Trump
00:04:33announced that Russia would supply diesel to the American and
00:04:36international market, and the United States Treasury temporarily authorized
00:04:40these exports until April next
00:04:42I think we are talking about year. Trump later publicly thanked Putin for the diesel
00:04:45deliveries, which he said would contribute to a rapid drop in fuel prices.
00:05:05Donald Trump is trying to lower gasoline and diesel prices before the midterm
00:05:08elections for Congress scheduled for November 3, but analysts estimate
00:05:12that Russian deliveries will not influence fuel prices, which are strongly
00:05:16affected by the conflict between the United States and Iran. Trump's announcement regarding
00:05:19the import of diesel from Russia came precisely during the negotiations in Miami,
00:05:23where American, Ukrainian and European representatives were discussing the end
00:05:27of the war, security guarantees and Ukraine's preparation for winter. In an
00:05:31audio message posted on social networks, the Ukrainian president criticized
00:05:34Washington's decision, stating that his negotiating team was
00:05:38used to mask the agreement between Putin and
00:05:40Trump. все йде на війну проти
00:05:44людей, проти України, проти всіх
00:05:47нас. Я вважаю, що нашу
00:05:51команду використовують просто як
00:05:54ширму, і це точно
00:05:56нечесно, це точно не по-партнерськи,
00:06:00і це, на мій погляд, слабке рішення, на
00:06:04жаль, на жаль, слабке рішення, сильних
00:06:07партнерів. Слава
00:06:09Україні.
00:06:12also provoked critical reactions in the American Congress. Democratic Senator Richard
00:06:16Blumenthal declared that the measure makes the United States complicit in Putin's
00:06:20war against Ukraine, accusing the American president's administration of
00:06:23weakening pressure on the Kremlin. In Brussels, the head
00:06:26of European Diplomacy Kaya Calas warned that additional revenues from
00:06:30diesel exports would help Russia finance the war and
00:06:34announced that on Monday, October 12, the foreign ministers of the European Union
00:06:37will approve new individual sanctions against over 1600
00:06:41individuals and entities from Russia. Against the background of new diplomatic controversies,
00:06:45Russia continued throughout the week aerial attacks on Ukrainian cities,
00:06:48causing civilian casualties. On October 5, shelling
00:06:51of the city of Kharkiv resulted in six deaths and
00:06:55approximately 60 injured, including children. In the east of the country, an
00:06:58aerial bomb exploded near buses, killing 30
00:07:02people. And a missile attack on the city of Priluki killed another
00:07:0620 people, including children. The intensity of the air strikes did
00:07:10not decrease even after Trump's conversation with Putin. On the contrary, on Saturday, Russian
00:07:14air bombs hit the city of Zaporozhye, destroying part of an apartment
00:07:17building. The attacks resulted in at least 20 deaths, including three
00:07:21children. The Ukrainian president denounced the contrast between the relaxation
00:07:25of American sanctions and the continuation of the bombings, warning that any
00:07:28economic concession made to Moscow without concrete peace commitments, only
00:07:32prolongs the
00:07:33war.
00:07:38Mihai, what could be behind this decision by Donald Trump, especially regarding
00:07:41diesel? Yes, not many details are
00:07:45known to us apart from those we have seen on social networks. There is
00:07:49this electoral pressure, which I mentioned
00:07:52earlier. On November 3, the fate of the last
00:07:56two years of President Trump's second term is practically
00:08:00decided,
00:08:02the entire composition of the House of
00:08:06Representatives, a third of
00:08:09the American Senate, is practically put before the voters.
00:08:12Polls do not give President Trump
00:08:15very good chances to maintain control of both chambers, which could
00:08:19block him in the future from initiating any political
00:08:23economic strategy or of another
00:08:26nature. Let's not forget that in the United States presidential
00:08:29elections are also coming up. In two years, we are even witnessing an
00:08:33internal struggle between a series of contenders, such as Mr. Rubio
00:08:36or Mr. J.D. Vance, the Vice President of the United States.
00:08:39Probably other files were also discussed because the
00:08:42conflict, let's say, the new cold war between Moscow
00:08:46and Washington is not limited to the Ukrainian file, we also
00:08:50look at the Islamic Republic of Iran, we also look at other regions and of course
00:08:54we see President Trump's obsession with trying to
00:08:58place the entire blame for prices on Ukraine's shoulders,
00:09:01trying to willfully ignore
00:09:04developments in the Strait of Hormuz.
00:09:08Probably, probably in a few days President Trump will have new
00:09:11outbursts against President
00:09:14Zelensky, but as you mentioned at the beginning of the show,
00:09:18we can expect a new episode, perhaps not
00:09:21on such a large scale, but we can expect a new
00:09:25episode February 2025.
00:09:27President Trump's threat regarding cutting
00:09:30Ukrainians' access to sensitive
00:09:33information coming from American
00:09:37sources, including satellite data, can of course
00:09:40jeopardize Ukraine's ability to hold the front line.
00:09:44Uh, there are some analysts who already say, or some
00:09:47media outlets, which have already noted that Russia is escaping sanctions,
00:09:51is it true or what is the balance between American
00:09:55sanctions and European sanctions? Well, certainly,
00:09:59many leaders from other states, such as
00:10:02Indian Prime Minister Modi, are
00:10:06dissatisfied, given that India
00:10:09was subjected to harsh sanctions precisely because it purchased
00:10:13energy resources from the Russian Federation. It creates a
00:10:17dangerous precedent, even if from a financial
00:10:20point of view, these, these millions of tons that will enter
00:10:26the American market, if we were to believe
00:10:29what was agreed upon, would not have a significant impact
00:10:33on the war economy of the Russian Federation,
00:10:37given that payments are to be made through
00:10:40various methods that will bring
00:10:44these funds with delay into the war coffers of the Russian Federation,
00:10:47but at the same time it creates a dangerous precedent, other states, including from
00:10:51the global south, will no longer, will no longer...
00:10:56pay much attention to these types of sanctions. Tomorrow we are
00:11:00to have a new meeting of European foreign ministers
00:11:03for the imposition of new sanction packages against states
00:11:07against the Russian Federation, and it is likely that we will see some
00:11:11spectacular developments due to the appearance of
00:11:15statements in this regard coming either from
00:11:37Donald Trump addressed to President Zelensky,
00:11:41this request to be replaced. Please
00:11:45tell us what is behind this attack and if
00:11:48Donald Trump could reverse this decision.
00:11:51I think that ultimately we are talking
00:11:56about the fact that starting with
00:12:00the invitation of the Russian Federation to rejoin
00:12:04the G20 discussions, because ultimately
00:12:07the United States now holds the G20 presidency
00:12:11in Miami, that was a first
00:12:15moment when we saw that the United States
00:12:18wants, under Donald Trump's presidency
00:12:22at the moment and even more so as
00:12:26we head into the midterm
00:12:29elections, to have a bilateral
00:12:33relationship with the Russian Federation in which
00:12:36the Ukrainian file is
00:12:38just one file, but it is
00:12:42not the one that influences the economic
00:12:45course of discussions between the two
00:12:48great powers. I
00:12:51think we have seen, in
00:12:55many cases, Donald Trump's personality
00:12:59manifest itself on the social
00:13:02network Truth Social in such
00:13:06a way that he has a tendency to
00:13:09grandly announce certain
00:13:13deals before they are
00:13:16finalized in a fairly rigorous timeframe, and we have also seen
00:13:19this deal
00:13:22with,
00:13:25a truce on what the energy
00:13:29component means, announced by Donald Trump and
00:13:33after Zelensky said: "But we
00:13:37didn't hear about this truce." So practically
00:13:40Trump made
00:13:44things happen without consulting
00:13:47, without having an agreement with
00:13:50the cards, but by announcing publicly , putting pressure on
00:13:53Zelensky.
00:13:57"We already know that in Trump's vision,
00:14:00Zelensky, the relationship,
00:14:03relations with leaders are conducted
00:14:06bilaterally, not trilaterally,
00:14:09so I think we need to
00:14:12read this not only in
00:14:15the perspective of the midterm elections, but also in Trump's bilateral
00:14:19style of conducting negotiations, but many, many
00:14:22issues remain
00:14:26in question, for example, and
00:14:29here we have voices from the Ukrainian side that
00:14:33said that ultimately they agree with this energy truce,
00:14:37especially since it will be a harsh winter for everyone
00:14:40, not just for Ukraine or not just
00:14:44for Russia but for the entire region, they
00:14:48agree, but the following questions remain: under
00:14:51what conditions will this truce be, what
00:14:55does it involve, when does it start and who will
00:14:58monitor it, because it wouldn't be the first time that
00:15:01Trump and the American side
00:15:03announce a peace
00:15:06deal and things are much
00:15:10more complicated on the ground. Yes, because you
00:15:13already mentioned this announcement about this truce, the Ukrainian
00:15:16side says they don't know when it starts,
00:15:20we don't see any reaction from the Russian Federation. Don't you think
00:15:23it's more or to whom did Donald Trump address
00:15:27first to stop the attacks on energy
00:15:31infrastructure, is this address more focused on
00:15:34Vladimir Putin or on Volodymyr Zelensky?
00:15:38To both, but I don't think
00:15:41I would put too much,
00:15:45how can I say, I don't think it's about a chess game
00:15:48behind this announcement, I think it's just his
00:15:52style to put pressure on the parties,
00:15:56but, as we know, both
00:15:59Ukraine can now have
00:16:03this capability, being very...
00:16:06well trained,
00:16:08and almost some regional leaders when
00:16:12it comes to drones,
00:16:14as well as the Russian Federation, which ultimately
00:16:18has no interest, as I see things,
00:16:22in giving Ukraine a peaceful winter
00:16:25or Trump a victory in
00:16:28the midterm elections and I think it addresses
00:16:32the American electorate,
00:16:35both parties that will go in uh in
00:16:39elections, it's quite interesting that
00:16:42very quickly two
00:16:45Republican congressmen mobilized
00:16:47, it's about a Republican from
00:16:50Pennsylvania where we have a very large
00:16:53Polish minority, by the way Zelensky is expected
00:16:57today, he is expected tomorrow to address
00:17:00the security conference in Warsaw, I
00:17:03saw Zelensky calling
00:17:08Alexander Stubb and Secretary General Mark Rutte in
00:17:12the hope that this truce
00:17:15will indeed materialize, because I think Ukrainians
00:17:18really want it, but they are skeptical, because it's not the first
00:17:22time that Trump says he will mediate peace
00:17:26agreements and he hasn't
00:17:30do so, so I think he addresses, to
00:17:34answer your question, both the parties involved
00:17:37in the war and his own
00:17:41electorate. Ms. Pup, returning to this decision
00:17:44to temporarily deliver
00:17:46diesel, especially by the Russian
00:17:50Federation. You spoke at the beginning of your
00:17:53intervention about signals that Donald
00:17:56Trump is sending. Returning to the topic of diesel,
00:17:59do you think it's more of an economic component that Donald
00:18:03Trump needs at this moment, or
00:18:06is it a new series of signals that
00:18:09he wants to send to the Kremlin, Brussels,
00:18:12Kyiv. I think it's an economic
00:18:17reduce
00:18:21the cost of
00:18:23Americans' bills,
00:18:26because, although, as Mihai
00:18:30said, ultimately it's
00:18:34too soon to see that this
00:18:38deal would produce a
00:18:40change
00:18:43at the pump, ultimately the elections are in
00:18:4625 days, so it's a race against time, but I think
00:18:50we see a
00:18:52president in the White House who is trying to do
00:18:56everything in his power to win the
00:19:00elections and that
00:19:03between him and
00:19:05his legacy is
00:19:09the inflation that the average American feels
00:19:13, whether he is a voter from a
00:19:16red state or a blue state, Democrat or
00:19:19Republican, ultimately many are
00:19:23tempted to vote according to
00:19:26their living conditions, according to internal problems, and I think in
00:19:30this economic logic we see
00:19:33Trump's discussion not only with Russia but also with
00:19:37other states. Ms.
00:19:40Pup, tell us, please, there are some opinions of some
00:19:44economists who say that through this so-called
00:19:48temporary weakening of sanctions against the Russian
00:19:51Federation, the Trump administration would also try
00:19:54to pull the economic component from the Russian
00:19:58Federation to its side, which could put pressure on
00:20:02the Kremlin. Does this theory have
00:20:04a right to exist or are we just talking about
00:20:08political and geopolitical logic in the relationship between
00:20:11Washington and
00:20:17Moscow? I think
00:20:20a political logic in
00:20:23the first place, I don't think we are talking
00:20:27so much about
00:20:29Trump's desire to
00:20:33end the war to enter the race
00:20:37for the Nobel Prize again, as it
00:20:40was another topic of discussion these
00:20:43days. I don't think it's about that anymore,
00:20:47I think it's just about ensuring
00:20:50that he has a track record at
00:20:53the end of his term, and
00:20:56obviously, we saw more discussions
00:21:00in Miami, discussions held
00:21:03by Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff
00:21:07when they were in Moscow and then in Ukraine to
00:21:11create new levers of economic
00:21:14cooperation between the U.S. and the Russian Federation, I think
00:21:18it's worth seeing. Let's keep an eye on
00:21:21the Treasury Department which has a decisive
00:21:25role in Washington's foreign policy at
00:21:28the moment, even more so as,
00:21:32as I said, in Congress everyone is focused on
00:21:35think
00:21:38that act "Peace Through
00:21:42Strength", which was announced by the Republican congressman
00:21:45, has a chance to pass in such a short
00:21:49time. To be able to
00:21:51force the administration
00:21:55to relax these sanctions, so I would
00:21:59look at what will happen at the moment with
00:22:02the Treasury Department and
00:22:06of course
00:22:08also when Russia will start
00:22:12sending this diesel to the U.S.
00:22:16The White House has not yet said who will pay for it and from
00:22:20which sectors the demand comes, so we will
00:22:23probably see in the coming days
00:22:26and hopefully also
00:22:29a mechanism to control that
00:22:33truce we were talking about
00:22:53of politics, money
00:22:55and
00:22:58electoral benefits, however, from the data we
00:23:01have, 24 hours after
00:23:05the announcement made by Donald Trump. Who seems
00:23:08to be the winner of these decisions and announcements at this moment?
00:23:12The winner of the round is certainly Vladimir Putin. We see how
00:23:16the Russian Federation continues to profit
00:23:20from the disagreements between Ukraine and its partner states and
00:23:23especially from the personal conflict between President Zelensky and
00:23:27his American counterpart Trump. Let's not forget that this is not the first
00:23:31time that President Trump would want to replace
00:23:34Zelensky, but President Trump is betting on a more
00:23:38pliable character, but let's not forget that
00:23:41it is very likely that the next president of Ukraine will be
00:23:44a rather tough character like perhaps Mr. Budanov or another
00:23:48leader with extensive military experience and who would not be
00:23:52such a pliable interlocutor as President Trump would like.
00:23:55We understand that President Trump
00:23:58is
00:24:00concerned about maintaining control over the House of Representatives and
00:24:03the Senate and we will see more and more
00:24:06announcements in the coming period. There are
00:24:09certain sources from Washington that
00:24:12state that the United States will
00:24:16lift a series of sanctions imposed on states that until now, such as India, which
00:24:20until this moment bought energy
00:24:23resources from the Russian Federation, but it is an
00:24:26extremely dangerous precedent and we can expect other states to take
00:24:30similar decisions in the coming period. It is also very important
00:24:34what happens tomorrow in Brussels and
00:24:37of course we must also look at
00:24:41transatlantic relations,
00:24:44a gesture of public humiliation by President Zelensky towards
00:24:48Trump is probably coming to ensure
00:24:51that the privileged security relationship between Washington and Kyiv does not
00:24:54suffer.
00:24:57This week, representatives of NATO, officials from Romania,
00:25:00Ukraine, the United States, and experts from over 20 countries
00:25:04met in Chisinau within the Moldova
00:25:08Security Forum, where they discussed the security
00:25:11landscape in the Republic of Moldova, but also in
00:25:15the entire region. On the agenda of the discussions were
00:25:18also the problems faced by the eastern
00:25:22flank of NATO and the entire eastern flank of the European
00:25:25Union, in the context in which the states in this region
00:25:29are looking for solutions to ensure their security
00:25:33in the context of increasingly hybrid and
00:25:36physical attacks.
00:25:50The Chișinău Forum brought together over 700 participants from the Republic of
00:25:53Moldova, Europe and the United States, including officials, diplomats and experts from
00:25:5720 countries. In her opening speech, President Maia Sandu
00:26:00warned that the war in Ukraine is also making its effects felt in
00:26:04the Republic of Moldova, including through repeated violations of
00:26:07airspace. The head of state underlined that in September alone, the state's
00:26:10airspace was violated more than 20 times. Maia Sandu
00:26:14pleaded for strengthening defense capabilities and cooperation with European partners,
00:26:18stating that the authorities are analyzing the possibility of producing
00:26:21equipment on the domestic market for detecting and neutralizing
00:26:24drones.
00:26:32hours of each incursion, anonymous telegram channels
00:26:36tell Moldovans that the dungeon comes from helping
00:26:40Ukraine and that our army is preparing for
00:26:43someone else's war. Russia's
00:26:46and Sir then blames those to stand with the
00:26:49victim. This is reversal of
00:26:54classic method of
00:26:55manipulation.
00:27:00The Minister of Defense of Chișinău, Anatolie Nosatîi, warned in turn that
00:27:04the latest incidents directly jeopardize the security of citizens, even if
00:27:08the aircraft are not officially launched against the Republic of Moldova. He
00:27:11emphasized that the authorities are making efforts to find effective solutions to
00:27:15deal with the current challenges in the state's airspace. We have
00:27:19become better prepared in terms of
00:27:21radar, which means that we have invested correctly
00:27:25in systems that ensure the identification
00:27:29of dangers from airspace now. Now
00:27:33it is our responsibility and we are working in the area
00:27:36of identifying possibilities of interception, of shooting down
00:27:40these, not putting the life and health of people in danger.
00:27:44Present at the Chișinău Security Forum, the Minister of National Defense of
00:27:47Romania, Radu Miruță, noted the importance of deterring Russia through
00:27:51joint actions. We see consequences of this
00:27:54aggression from the Russian Federation in the electronic warfare zone
00:27:57and especially in the disinformation zone.
00:28:01The message is a very clear one: we are determined
00:28:04to defend ourselves together to deter
00:28:08much more a potential country like
00:28:11Russia that could have
00:28:14thoughts of extending this conflict. The Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of
00:28:18Ukraine declared in turn that the experience accumulated by his country in
00:28:21combating Russian drones and developing its own defense industry can be
00:28:25used by the Republic of Moldova, which is facing increasingly greater risks for
00:28:28the security of its airspace.
00:28:32huge experience concerning how to fight with Russian
00:28:36drones, we rapidly upgrade
00:28:38facilities of Ukraine drone production through international
00:28:42support and financial, technical, etc. it's we
00:28:45ready to share with our partner and want them Moldova, of
00:28:49course our experience, because now we can see
00:28:52examples how Russia try to probe your
00:28:56resistance. Moldova Security Forum was in its third edition and was
00:28:59organized by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation Delegated Office.
00:29:10Mihai, how vulnerable is the Republic of Moldova at this moment
00:29:14and what urgent measures should we adopt here in
00:29:18Chișinău?
00:29:20The way in which the Russian Federation threatens us
00:29:24is evolving extremely rapidly, the espionage services from
00:29:26Moscow are adapting very quickly to
00:29:29legislative changes in the Republic of
00:29:32Moldova, technological changes, there are very many threats
00:29:35to the Republic of Moldova present in
00:29:39the arsenal of the Russian Federation, we are talking of course about propaganda, we are talking of course
00:29:43about drones, we are talking about the direct military threat represented
00:29:48regime in Tiraspol,
00:29:50so there are so many, so many problems that
00:29:54certainly not even a week would be enough to discuss them all, we see
00:29:58this terror of drones
00:30:01launched by... the Russian Federation against us. We know
00:30:05that the authorities are working at a fast pace to
00:30:08implement measures that will limit this
00:30:12threat. We can never completely exclude
00:30:15the drone threat. We see the
00:30:18unspeakable gestures of some politicians who post on social
00:30:22networks, groups, groups of the national
00:30:26army participating in operations to ensure the
00:30:29security of airspace, even a former
00:30:33supreme commander of the military forces of the Republic of Moldova took
00:30:37a series of measures that endanger the lives of soldiers and officers
00:30:40of the national army who participate in such actions.
00:30:44There are many projects underway, unfortunately
00:30:47we cannot hope that
00:30:49this,
00:30:52for example, this strategy for the defense of the state's
00:30:56airspace of the Republic of Moldova will be able to be implemented overnight, it takes...