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00:04:49The Big Game is on air,
00:04:53a couple of days have passed since
00:04:56the BRICS session, the summit,
00:05:01I think we can already try to sum up the results,
00:05:05and no one can do it better than Andrey
00:05:08Ivanovich, a senator for many
00:05:12years.
00:05:43an international event, an event of global scale, and
00:05:46an event that will have its consequences, in any case, this
00:05:50follows from the statements that were made at the summit, and from
00:05:54the document that was adopted, I draw attention to the fact that it was adopted,
00:05:57of course, not without difficulty, and this is always the case, it was
00:06:01reported somewhere that until 4:00
00:06:03AM,
00:06:05specialists argued about the provisions, this
00:06:09is a very voluminous document, but explain?
00:06:35Iran and the United Arab Emirates, this
00:06:38was done, which strike each
00:06:40other. In the case
00:07:43of existing friction between them, I used a very mild word,
00:07:46the general climate of the summit did not
00:07:50spoil it, did not poison it, did not, as
00:07:53they say, lead away from any main
00:07:57discussions, statements, I must say
00:07:59that yesterday in your program a very
00:08:03detailed, in my opinion, deep analysis
00:08:07of what is happening in the expert
00:08:10community, in the world press, by the way,
00:08:12was given. I won't retell it,
00:08:16I'll note, well, maybe some points that caught my eye,
00:08:19firstly, a respectful tone towards the summit, if earlier
00:08:22Western observers
00:08:26somehow tried with some, well, not
00:08:29disdain, but with some kind of, you know,
00:08:32condescension, let's say that, to speak
00:08:35about BRICS, now in
00:08:38Western mass media, this
00:08:41note, well... it kind of still
00:08:43went away, at a minimum - it's an
00:08:47objective such just coverage of what
00:08:50is happening, so, and for the most part
00:08:54it's still such a serious analysis precisely regarding far-
00:08:57reaching consequences. At such
00:09:00summits, documents
00:09:03are developed, adopted, discussions take place, statements are made,
00:09:07here I would note that regarding the statements of our
00:09:10leader, well... I must say, they were distinguished,
00:09:14among other things, excuse me for such phrasing,
00:09:17but also by literary perfection, and not only by their
00:09:21political, so to speak, charge, it's no accident that our
00:09:25president was even applauded in places, although generally, at
00:09:28such summits, frankly speaking, it's not very
00:09:31common, our positions were expressed,
00:09:35positions expressed quite decisively, they
00:09:38are known in favor
00:09:41of... action with a wide range of countries on
00:09:45the basis of principles, but if we reduce them to
00:09:48such a maximally compressed form, on the principles
00:09:51of equality
00:09:53and justice. Our proposals
00:09:56were included in the final document, these
00:09:59proposals are purely business-like, by the way, they were also submitted
00:10:03earlier, we are working them out, repeating them, offering them to partners,
00:10:07this is the creation
00:10:10of a clearing
00:10:25this is a grain exchange, well, to this
00:10:28were added detailed proposals for a joint
00:10:31investment platform and a whole
00:10:34host of other, I repeat, concrete proposals, which, apparently, will be
00:10:38worked out further, I always pay attention
00:10:41to
00:10:44the verbal formulations,
00:10:46definitions of Chinese leaders, because there were
00:10:50no accidental words in Xi Jinping's speeches at such
00:10:54forums.
00:12:25for a long time, that is, changes are not just
00:12:28happening, they are also accelerating,
00:12:32well, I remembered his wording about
00:12:35the fact that the trend towards multipolarity is becoming
00:12:38unstoppable, this, by the way, echoes
00:12:42the statements of our president, with
00:12:44comments on this matter by the Minister of Foreign Affairs that
00:12:48the movement towards multipolarity
00:12:52is indeed irreversible, well, and...
00:13:55already considered it necessary to continue the dialogue, I consider it very
00:13:58important, by the way, I would like to draw attention
00:14:01to the fact that usually they don't
00:14:04write about it or report it dryly in three
00:14:08words, but recently Kazakhstan celebrated
00:14:11the thirty-fifth anniversary of independent development, among
00:14:15those who congratulated the President of Kazakhstan was
00:14:18Donald Trump, President of the United States of America, this
00:14:22time Donald Trump's congratulations sounded very... not
00:14:25шаблонно, very untraditional, very, I would
00:14:27say, weighty and respectful towards the President of the Republic
00:14:31of Kazakhstan, whom he undoubtedly
00:14:35deserves, in a
00:14:37word,
00:14:40Kazakhstan is among the top three countries along with
00:14:44China and India, which
00:14:47conduct with our president, well, as it
00:14:50seems to me, the deepest and frankest dialogue, including
00:14:54on... issues of Ukraine,
00:14:57well, regarding Ukraine, here I must say,
00:15:00it's noteworthy, not what was in
00:15:04the joint statement about Ukraine, but that there was
00:15:07nothing, uh-huh, and as I understand,
00:15:11according to my sources, who knew what was
00:15:13happening there, there was no attempt to even
00:15:17drag Ukraine into this document, but what there
00:15:21was was unanimous
00:15:24condemnation. I am a supporter of sanctions, and
00:15:27not only that, I would even correct you to some extent
00:15:30here, and it seems to me that
00:15:33still, even if not directly, but indirectly, something...
00:17:55four states, Japan, Germany, Brazil, and India, we support
00:17:58Brazil and India, we believe that these countries have
00:18:01every reason to join the permanent
00:18:05members, as for Japan and... Germany, well, we won't
00:18:09go into it now, the main thing here is not how we treat them
00:18:12and what happens with other, let's say,
00:18:16plots, but the fact that
00:18:19it will in no way enrich the composition
00:18:22of permanent members, there are already England and France, there are
00:18:26the United States of America, these will simply be two more
00:18:29votes that will simply numerically strengthen the platform
00:18:33that already prevails in the Security Council
00:18:36at the moment.
00:18:49China, frankly speaking, had a rather restrained attitude
00:18:53towards inviting India to join the permanent members
00:18:56for understandable reasons, there are some purely
00:18:59bilateral, let's say,
00:19:01так
00:19:03frictions, everyone knows about them, we won't dwell on that now.
00:19:19India and Brazil, this is also generally
00:19:22a certain step, I
00:19:25repeat, on a specific issue, but a very important one. As for
00:19:28Japan, it is of course now a country unfriendly
00:19:31to Russia, actively unfriendly, but at
00:19:35least it is not located.
00:20:09and I would even say, the organizers of what
00:20:12the Nazi, non-Nazi Zelensky regime is doing,
00:20:15I think it was simply a mockery of the main
00:20:19mission, of
00:20:22the image of the United Nations, and I am sure that
00:20:26this will not happen, do you agree that this will not happen, well, at least
00:20:30in the foreseeable future, it is quite obvious that we will be against it,
00:20:34in fact, everything is much, maybe even deeper, but this, by the way, I noticed
00:20:38in one of the articles by such a
00:20:41German parliamentarian, I think, a member of the European Parliament with
00:20:44a very characteristic surname Von Schulenburg,
00:20:48apparently a relative of that same Schulenburg.
00:22:50that we finished the war in Berlin, and
00:22:54it's useful for them to remember that when they led a coalition
00:22:58against us of almost all of Europe, at least
00:23:01continental Europe, it's useful for them to remember that
00:23:05the Soviet Union was, well, not entirely
00:23:07alone, but almost alone with Mongolia,
00:23:11nevertheless, this in no way stopped us
00:23:15from standing firm and winning, this
00:23:18feeling.
00:24:20we allowed ourselves to strike at
00:24:23a locomotive that was standing at
00:24:26a station
00:24:28where an hour and a half earlier
00:24:32there was
00:24:34a train with Boris Johnson and other
00:24:38individuals who were attending some security conference
00:24:41in Kyiv, which they for some reason
00:24:43called,
00:24:45and imagine, we went and struck the
00:24:48locomotive. just an hour and a
00:24:52half after Boris Johnson
00:24:54was there, well, imagine the indignation
00:24:58this causes in NATO circles, especially for Mr.
00:25:01Johnson himself. Well, yes, David
00:25:04Petraeus was also there, who also
00:25:08delivered an angry tirade about this being
00:25:12a crime, this is
00:25:15a completely inhumane strike against
00:25:17diplomatic representatives, I must say that, in general, from my point
00:25:21of view, it was high time for us to stop
00:25:25this diplomatic tourism, but we could have started at
00:25:28the Kyiv train station, but
00:25:31I also want to say that if the target of our
00:25:35strikes was this diplomatic, so-called
00:25:38train with Johnson,
00:25:41Petraeus, there were several other characters, I assure
00:25:44you that this train would not be here today, just as Johnson
00:25:48and Petraeus would not be. and so on, the target
00:25:52was the locomotive, it's very good that we
00:25:55continue to strike precisely at the
00:25:58rolling stock of the Ukrainian railway
00:26:01infrastructure, well, I think we've more or less
00:26:05figured it out, especially since rails are restored quite
00:26:09quickly, that's literally a matter of, well, not days,
00:26:12but weeks, so
00:26:15rolling stock and bridges - that's certainly more serious, we've already
00:26:18knocked out over 200 locomotives, that's a third
00:26:22of the existing fleet, restoring it is extremely
00:26:26difficult, well,
00:26:28firstly,
00:26:30you can't just take Western
00:26:34locomotives and transfer them due to the different
00:26:37gauge, so you need to order them, ordering
00:26:41takes a long time, it's expensive, Ukraine isn't doing very
00:26:44well with money, even with Western aid,
00:26:48so it's very good that
00:26:51it's very good that we started hitting locomotives
00:26:55near the Polish border, I must say that
00:26:58we are already in
00:27:01of strikes on Black Sea infrastructure,
00:27:05when Ukrainians, well, they
00:27:08are trying and doing it, redirecting
00:27:11agricultural exports, partially metallurgical
00:27:15to Danube ports, so that
00:27:18from there everything is redirected to the Romanian port
00:27:22Constanta and from there to the external
00:27:26market, we started hitting
00:27:30Danube ...
00:28:02something would fly into Polish territory, but let them
00:28:05strain, especially since today they announced that they
00:28:08will now raise aviation, shoot down
00:28:12all their patriots will mobilize to shoot down everything that
00:28:15flies into Polish airspace, well, let them shoot down, I
00:28:19think if something accidentally flies in, well, let them
00:28:22train,
00:28:24as for locomotives, this is all in line, I must say,
00:28:28regarding maritime topics,
00:28:33now our
00:28:35strikes have shifted to port infrastructure,
00:28:38infrastructure that we have generally dealt with quite
00:28:41thoroughly, especially in Odesa, there are
00:28:43storage facilities, various, so
00:28:47to speak, capacities, loading
00:28:50capacities, now we have started to
00:28:54hit more ships, since
00:28:56July 11th, July 11th, we started and practically
00:29:00on a daily basis, our
00:29:03armed forces strike ships, the
00:29:07container ships, grain carriers, bulk carriers,
00:29:10everything is different there,
00:29:13plus boats, tugboats that
00:29:16accompany ships to port,
00:29:20over the last month, well, approximately 80
00:29:23strikes have been carried out on ships of various
00:29:27classes, 50 of them on ships that
00:29:30were already berthed in the port, and
00:29:3330 that were in the port area,
00:29:36these are certainly not fantastic figures, but
00:29:40it's enough for our goal,
00:29:43especially since we use fourth- generation Geran drones, Geran 4-5
00:29:47reactive ones,
00:29:51their warhead is 90 kg, of course,
00:29:54you can't sink a cargo
00:29:58ship with a displacement of tens of thousands of tons with Geran drones, but
00:30:01in my opinion...
00:31:15the intensity of strikes on port
00:31:18infrastructure and ships, I think we will easily
00:31:21do this, returning to the railway,
00:31:24I am absolutely sure that we will methodically
00:31:28try to knock out the locomotive fleet. This
00:31:31is what Dmitry Peskov said regarding numerous Western
00:31:35calls not to act as we did with this
00:31:39poor locomotive, Peskov's statement was very short,
00:31:42but there's nothing more to add here.
00:31:47If I understand correctly, we are talking about the territory of Ukraine, our military
00:31:51are performing their tasks throughout Ukraine and will continue to
00:31:54do so. You mentioned General
00:31:56Petraeus, I have a
00:32:00photo at home where I am standing with Henry
00:32:03Kissinger, presenting
00:32:06Petraeus with an award, a prize,
00:32:09which was awarded to him by the board
00:32:12of directors of the Center for National Interest.
00:33:05as Nixon's successor, but then a
00:33:08girl let him down, you're not offended, that's
00:33:12how it is with girls, they just
00:33:15let you down, sometimes, sometimes they uplift you, sometimes
00:33:18they let you down, although Petraeus mostly let himself
00:33:21down, he always traveled as CIA
00:33:24director with a girl, the girl was
00:33:28a journalist, writing his
00:33:29biography,
00:33:32he shared classified information with her, in
00:33:36order to, as it were, help her write his
00:33:39biography better, but then it turned out that he shared with her not
00:33:42only that and that she... they had an affair,
00:33:46well, Petraeus had to leave
00:33:49the CIA, not because of the girl, but for
00:33:52disclosing classified information, and
00:33:55of course, he could no longer think about running
00:33:58for president, at least then,
00:34:02but he is such a decisive person, he doesn't give up easily, and he started
00:34:06thinking, why not run in the next presidential
00:34:10elections already in 2016,
00:34:12but then already... the leading
00:34:16candidate was becoming Donald
00:34:19Trump, who then took the position of an instinctive
00:34:22realist, vehemently exposing liberal
00:34:26hegemony, invasions of some foreign countries, and Petraeus
00:34:30then, he was surrounded
00:34:32by neoconservatives, and he began to
00:34:35position himself as
00:34:37an alternative
00:34:39to Donald Trump, that's how his neoconservative
00:34:43career began, of course. He didn't become any kind of candidate, much
00:34:46less president, but since then he has
00:34:49joined the neoconservative political
00:34:53machine, this time it was his
00:34:56eleventh trip to Kyiv, and I must
00:34:59say, I'm just
00:35:02embarrassed for him, because he is certainly not
00:35:05a stupid person, a person with some real achievements
00:35:09in the past, now he sounds, well,
00:35:13you know, not like an analyst, not like a statesman,
00:35:16but like a Kyiv
00:35:19lobbyist and propagandist, I don't know
00:35:22if he gets paid for it, I, at least, am absolutely not
00:35:26ready to make such accusations, but I believe that he is simply
00:35:29disgracing his good name in
00:35:31history, and he is already well over 70, although he
00:35:35is a very vigorous person, but at this age I am also
00:35:39well over 70, but sometimes one has to think about meeting with
00:35:42God, you know, I must say: this often
00:35:46happens with retired generals, who at
00:35:49first are sensible,
00:35:52understand everything and reason, but as soon as they, so
00:35:55to speak, retire, they start talking absolute
00:35:59nonsense, some, I, well, not many, but some I
00:36:03knew, well, in particular, Ben Hodges always
00:36:06gave me the impression of being quite sensible, but what he
00:36:09is saying now, of course, Ben Hodges, is
00:36:12former.
00:36:15but he sounds now like just a malicious idiot, no, he just sometimes
00:36:19says, he, I think, can even outdo
00:36:22Sikorski, who just - the day before yesterday,
00:36:25I think, made some completely, either he really drank too much, or
00:36:29I don't know what, he said that Poland has decisive superiority over Russia
00:36:33in the air, yes, in the air and
00:36:36Poland will destroy, so to speak, what is left of
00:36:40our MPRs, after Ukraine destroyed half in
00:36:436 months, then Poland in 6 weeks
00:36:47will destroy the rest, with what, when,
00:36:50it's unclear, even in the West, I think no one understood what he
00:36:54said, so Hodges, I think, is from the same cohort.
00:37:28but mostly, I think, with each other, we're going to a
00:37:30commercial,
00:37:36Alexander Antonovich, senior
00:37:39sergeant of the airborne troops, UAV
00:37:42operator, how much damage have you inflicted on the enemy in
00:37:45money? Well, it's something over 70 million dollars,
00:37:49could you have imagined that this would become an instrument of a new type
00:37:53of war, more than 500 combat sorties have been carried out, this is on
00:37:56radio drones and...
00:37:59I have a principle in my head that I will not work on civilians, on
00:38:03women, on children, we have exclusively military targets, my grandfather flew over NATO
00:38:07countries in a plane, and you burn NATO equipment
00:38:10flying on fiber optics, paratroopers are always
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00:40:48Russia.
00:40:59Maria Vladimirovna, Ukraine, of course, in the West, is presented
00:41:03as a beacon of democracy and as, naturally, a victim,
00:41:06an innocent victim of Russian aggression,
00:41:10but when I look at the statements of politicians, including
00:41:14those who very recently worked for Zelensky, in prominent
00:41:17positions, those who supported him in
00:41:21the Ukrainian Rada, they openly say that
00:41:25it was Zelensky who started corruption, that
00:41:28it was Zelensky who was losing the war, that
00:41:31it was Zelensky who was trampling democracy,
00:41:35is this mouse wrangling or some
00:41:38serious opposition movement?
00:41:41Well, on the one hand, dear Dmitry, I have said many
00:41:45times that for the Ukrainian state,
00:41:48if it suddenly at some point, at some point turns out to be truly
00:41:52genuinely sovereign, since it has no other
00:41:55statehood, the only natural state is
00:41:59ruin, such an endless wedding in Malinovka, my favorite
00:42:02in childhood, a film that I think many of us love and appreciate,
00:42:06and it's clear that, you know, when I...
00:42:10was a little younger, I didn't really believe
00:42:13that there were some initially prescribed
00:42:17national myths, archetypes, and traditions. I always thought
00:42:20that you could always forge a new person, some
00:42:24other person, and especially another
00:42:27nation. But now, having become a little wiser, I understand
00:42:31that Russia, no matter what they do to it, still returns to those traditional
00:42:34rails, patterns, national myths,
00:42:37archetypes that are inherent to us. And China, exactly
00:42:41the same way, whatever revolutions happened to
00:42:45it throughout the 20th century, it still returns to the good old Chinese
00:42:48empire. And it's the same with Ukraine. It really
00:42:52constantly turns into this ruin, into endless squabbles
00:42:56among elites, bandits, and so on, because if you look at what's actually
00:43:00happening, the escape across the Lithuanian
00:43:03border, across the Polish border, of course,
00:43:05of the Prosecutor General. The discovery
00:43:09happened. What happened was the discovery in the safe of this very
00:43:12Prosecutor General at work, attention, at work, a safe probably my height,
00:43:16of bundles of dollars and euros. I can't
00:43:20tell by eye, I'm just not an expert, how much is there, but I think it's quite
00:43:23a lot. And it's even unclear why he needed so many bundles of
00:43:27dollars and euros at work as the Prosecutor General. In turn, the accusation
00:43:30of the Prosecutor General,
00:43:34the head of the National Anti-Corruption Committee,
00:43:37NABU, is that he was actually the one who...
00:44:40I cannot say that those
00:44:43sociological studies that are there now are
00:44:47sufficiently accurate, academic, but simply because
00:44:50a warring state in chaos, which does not control,
00:44:54as it were, many things, for example, it does not control its men who
00:44:57went to the front, who simply cannot be objectively
00:45:01surveyed, or does not control its citizens abroad,
00:45:04can it somehow claim to have some effective, some
00:45:08truthful sociology, but... at the same time, we understand
00:45:11that Zelensky's rating is very low. Well, after all, this
00:45:15man started the war, this man cannot end it,
00:45:19this is how they, to think
00:45:21that the citizens of Ukraine want the war to continue, of course
00:45:25we cannot, there are also some polls, about
00:45:28that these citizens are quite well, well, any person on earth
00:45:32wants peace, always, always.
00:45:35Many are already saying, well, okay, let's leave those lands to the Russians, but...
00:46:30And I will tell you that our benefit lies in prolonging any chaos as much as possible, let them fight
00:46:34among themselves, let them have a lot, it's chaos they create themselves, not us, this
00:46:38chaos they create themselves.
00:46:52If you wish, if, for example, Budanov,
00:46:56or Fedorov, or Zaluzhny, or some other extremist
00:46:59and terrorist comes to power, of course,
00:47:03and he is called a terrorist not, in general and
00:47:07on the whole, but because he organized
00:47:10terrorist acts in Moscow, including, as I
00:47:13understand, a terrorist act against our regular participant, he will be with
00:47:17us this week, Alexander Dugin, as a result
00:47:20of which his daughter died.
00:47:23Yes, as a result of which a very talented, young
00:47:26political scientist and philosopher died, who, of course, well, even now when I go to the
00:47:30philosophy faculty, everyone says that Dasha had a perfectly
00:47:34brilliant dissertation on Plato, which she
00:47:37unfortunately did not have time to defend.
00:47:40So they are hitting our best young
00:47:41minds,
00:47:44and well, because they understand where to hit, well, what I don't quite
00:47:48understand, although I have guesses, why...
00:49:28in Istanbul, when Boris Johnson persuaded him not to, well,
00:49:30strictly
00:49:33speaking, not to go to peace talks, at first it was unclear what would happen, and
00:49:37then the West helped, then something else happened, at some point he
00:49:40just started to feel that this improvisation
00:49:44was successful for him, but probably now everyone understands about his
00:49:48improvisation, and that now in Ukraine there is such
00:49:51a struggle for power,
00:50:23Ukraine agreed not to strike Russian energy systems, Russia
00:50:27also agreed not to strike Ukrainian energy systems, the rise in world diesel
00:50:31prices is related to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, not with
00:50:34Iran. Here it must be said immediately
00:50:36that Zelensky came to this
00:50:40conclusion not on his own, he responded to a very
00:50:43public appeal from Trump. And
00:50:46I want to ask you, Evgeny Petrovich, what
00:50:49does this mean for us? I may be too suspicious,
00:50:53but I assume that now Zelensky and his patrons
00:50:57will start saying, look, Zelensky
00:51:00went for this energy truce
00:51:03and now Russia can't do this either, can't do
00:51:07that, but this approach is to be expected. You know, Dmitry, well, firstly,
00:51:11Zelensky's wish is
00:51:14energy and grain
00:51:17export, that is, the unblocking of Black Sea
00:51:20ports, primarily the port of Odessa.
00:51:23And the cessation of attacks on ships. What is
00:51:27energy? You see, the thing that Trump is only interested in
00:51:30diesel. In the United States, I think it's already
00:51:34crossed $6 a gallon, it's already past that,
00:51:37over six, somewhere closer to seven, and it was, and it was, and
00:51:40it was - a year
00:51:43ago, below four, below four, well, that is
00:51:46the prices have practically doubled, despite
00:51:50all Trump's promises that in just a little while, prices would fall
00:51:53like a stone, nevertheless, but Trump is interested in diesel.
00:51:57Well, diesel is an oil refinery, but
00:52:01energy is much broader, it's also -
00:53:35confirmed, but in any case, I say, the only thing that, from my point
00:53:38of view, we could, so to speak, as a compromise, was
00:53:42to suspend attacks on oil,
00:53:44you know. Trump's appeal
00:53:48was not to Putin, but to Zelensky, it was only to
00:53:51Zelensky. We are discussing
00:53:53a hypothetical, but probable situation where
00:53:57we will be pressured,
00:54:00such formulations can mean
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01:00:00Senator, we have all read
01:00:02books by authors who were engaged in science
01:00:06fiction. Many of them had
01:00:09predictions about how machines would get
01:00:13out of control and start harming
01:00:16humans, and even try to destroy
01:00:19humanity. Well, in general, when I read this, I
01:00:23wasn't very scared, because fiction is
01:00:26fiction, and this fiction seemed to me not
01:00:30too scientific. Just now
01:00:34an employee of an American
01:00:37company that develops artificial
01:00:40intelligence announced that he was resigning, although this
01:00:44company was about to issue shares, and this
01:00:48young man, just in the coming
01:00:51weeks, was facing very very large payouts, multi-million
01:00:55payouts.
01:00:58Well, then, then the leaders of these very
01:01:01companies began to say that this young man, in a somewhat
01:01:05overly dramatic
01:01:07way, expressed what they
01:01:11are starting to take seriously,
01:01:14the timeframes they mentioned, like...
01:01:17artificial intelligence could start posing a
01:01:21threat? from 6 to 12
01:01:25months.
01:01:28And if we are talking about
01:01:30several years, then in general they all
01:01:33agreed that if something urgent is not
01:01:37done, if governments,
01:01:41governments of other states do not intervene and there
01:01:45is no real
01:01:49regulation of artificial intelligence development, then we could pay dearly
01:01:53for it, and it seemed to me that this was a very correct,
01:01:57reasonable, worthy concern. Well, what
01:02:01Donald Trump just said
01:02:03about this.
01:02:08We are ahead of China in artificial intelligence, we are the most advanced country in
01:02:12the world, frankly, I want it to stay that way, because whoever wins in
01:02:16the field of artificial intelligence... will win, and we can set
01:02:19limits, we can do this and that, but I think there are many hostile
01:02:22forces that are raising this topic, although they should not raise it, they are raising
01:02:26questions that will not happen, but the one who wins in this field.
01:03:01You were talking about science fiction here, we all
01:03:04remember science fiction of relatively recent
01:03:06times, the film Terminator,
01:03:10where the main character was also a kind
01:03:13of artificial intelligence, we remember his phrase: "I will be
01:03:16back", I will return, and so he returned,
01:03:20but only already in a different, more, immeasurably more
01:03:23dangerous guise, and here I am not an expert and
01:03:27would not want to elaborate much on this. Here
01:03:30details are really important, approaches are important, but we can
01:03:34state the obvious thing, that from a legal
01:03:38point of view, from a regulatory point of view, from
01:03:42the point of view of some frameworks,
01:03:45well, we are generally close to zero,
01:03:48started, there are certain efforts in different countries,
01:03:51national efforts to develop internal legislation,
01:03:55they are generally progressing with great difficulty, including, by the way, in
01:03:58our country. We have this, let's say, legislation
01:04:02regulating artificial intelligence, it is on the drawing
01:04:06boards, but progress so far, unfortunately,
01:04:08сожалению,
01:04:10without, as they say, a light at the end of the tunnel has not yet
01:04:13appeared. Well, in the United States of America, I don't know about
01:04:17domestic legislation, but what they are talking about,
01:04:20yes, Trump was also talking about it just now, somehow
01:04:24there is still no critical mass
01:04:27of concern that would prompt
01:04:31the development of legislation, apparently not yet ready. There is also the Chinese
01:04:34People's Republic, by the way, sharing leadership with
01:04:37the Americans in the field of this very
01:04:41artificial intelligence, and perhaps, perhaps, even somewhere,
01:04:45I would say, a more applied
01:04:48leadership, because, well, again, I'm not an expert, but as far as I
01:04:51can tell from publications, Americans are developing very
01:04:55complex and very expensive models, which
01:04:58possibly only large corporations, big
01:05:02buyers, and so on, can use. China is taking the opposite approach, it makes
01:05:05simpler, more accessible, more, I would
01:05:09say, practice-oriented
01:05:11schemes,
01:05:14and offers them practically
01:05:16for free, unlike the United States of America.
01:05:20Well, we will not discuss which concept, so to speak, is more promising
01:05:23now, but China, by the way, the law
01:05:27on artificial intelligence is also still in the works, it is
01:05:31being discussed, and apparently they are running into the
01:05:34same, including ethical, considerations that concern our
01:05:38developers, but, but, China, unlike
01:05:42the United States, has made efforts to
01:05:45consolidate some international approaches to this
01:05:49matter, proposed an organization,
01:05:52an international organization that would deal
01:05:55with artificial intelligence issues, somewhere, I think, in
01:05:59June, yes... that is, just recently a summit of sorts,
01:06:02an expert meeting of high level, where these issues were discussed, we, by the way,
01:06:06took part in it, we were not in agreement with everything in
01:06:09the approaches of our Chinese partners, well, it's a complex issue,
01:06:12so here, as they say, there can be different opinions, but in the end
01:06:16we came closer, and Russia signed the final document, that is,
01:06:20agreed with the theses of the Chinese side, so,
01:06:23to conclude the discussion on this topic, I would also speak
01:06:27in favor of...
01:07:30that Ukrainians, those of them
01:07:34who are involved in arms trade, have actively
01:07:37started promoting
01:07:40drones. Other types of weapons, but especially
01:07:44drones, which are equipped with artificial
01:07:48intelligence. They offer them
01:07:51at a reasonable
01:07:54small price and are ready to provide
01:07:57them not only to governments, but
01:08:00to rebels, including groups
01:08:03openly associated, as in Mali, with
01:08:06Al-Qaeda. This is, uh, how
01:08:09do you think, something that can also be stopped?