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Тележурналист Леонид Якубович беседует со своими гостями об авиации и всем, что с ней связано

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00:00:30the elections were held, your feelings, your mood, your
00:00:33understanding of this process, because there is an opinion that this is a little more than just
00:00:37elections, yes, but for the Green Party, which I represent, the elections
00:00:41passed, I would say like this, very
00:00:44actively, the party is experiencing a renaissance, we have not been
00:00:48in the political arena for a long time, we are precisely those
00:00:51who competed with these big parties, that is, we were the
00:00:55crucian carp that did not let them doze off, I am very glad that it
00:00:59was so. I think that morning will show a lot, morning is wiser than evening
00:01:02and more accurate, and I am sure that the results of the Greens
00:01:06will be higher across Russia as a whole, Russia is very uneven,
00:01:09when we count megacities where the environmental agenda is still
00:01:13more relevant, living near a lake, or near a river
00:01:17or near an industrial zone are different things, and philosophically
00:01:20everything is understood differently, so I
00:01:23think that the party's result will grow,
00:01:25the second story, which was also very important
00:01:29for us, we are building a party, we very
00:01:32much hope that in a number of large cities or regions
00:01:36our factions will appear, I have just
00:01:39надежда, что там появится фракции зелёных, вот я
00:01:43thank everyone who
00:01:47for this project,
00:01:50because you know, we have neither
00:01:52forced laborers, I
00:01:56это голос по любви, это брак по любви, это очень дорого.
00:02:00This is not a small result at all, it is a big result, we are
00:02:03generally satisfied with the team's work, satisfied with the elections, and you know, I love
00:02:07such asphalt, such
00:02:11асфальт мощный, крепкий, и из-под него выбивается
00:02:14sprout breaks through it, you've seen such a picture, right? The Green Party
00:02:18will be exactly such a sprout that
00:02:21will break through such asphalt, something even
00:02:24hardened by the last political years, and will become
00:02:27a very important, very modern, very necessary
00:02:30universal political force, so we are satisfied, Erik
00:02:33Narimanovich, how satisfied are you, yes
00:02:37with the conduct, but for some reason he always looks at me attentively, somehow
00:02:40probing, when he talks about the Pensioners'
00:02:43Party, well, the floor is yours, you have the sixth place, by the way, yes,
00:02:47it's not over yet, it's already evening, of course, but it's not over yet, yes, it's not
00:02:50morning yet, so the Pensioners' Party is convinced that
00:02:53the result will grow, I can
00:02:56say that the Pensioners' Party is satisfied with the results of the past elections. Why?
00:03:00created all the necessary conditions for a relatively small Because we were able to demonstrate
00:03:03a very powerful, modern
00:03:06campaign that we organized. I am
00:03:09grateful to the authorities who
00:03:15party, which unfortunately has never been
00:03:18parliamentary, to conduct a full-fledged campaign. We
00:03:22got access to the media, we participated
00:03:25in all debates,
00:03:29I participated.
00:04:00and became a cyberparty, a quarter
00:04:02billion views of our media content, we are leaders among
00:04:06all political parties in the Russian Federation, this is an obvious
00:04:09fact today. I understand, we tried,
00:04:12I think we succeeded in attracting the attention
00:04:15of young people to the issues that the party raises, this is the future
00:04:19of our country,
00:04:23I am convinced that we
00:04:26have transformed today, we represent...
00:05:00people, I saw
00:05:02completely that people voted
00:05:05freely, I
00:05:09, when I was inside the voting
00:05:12station, nobody told me, you can't
00:05:16film, you can't ask questions, on the contrary,
00:05:19they even offered me, let's take a picture,
00:05:23come on, you can freely ask questions, I saw
00:05:27everything completely normal, I did not see
00:05:29any violations
00:05:32of democratic rights, hmm, unfortunately,
00:05:35we know, Europe, now, excuse me, Liza, how
00:05:39many of you were from Italy, how many?
00:07:28with the use of digital counting methods, that is, the use of remote electronic voting, that is, citizens were given
00:07:31the opportunity, if you want to vote remotely electronically,
00:07:34or with a regular ballot, and
00:07:38this opportunity was used by
00:07:42several million citizens,
00:07:45at the highest level of professionalism,
00:07:49we saw members of election commissions on the ground, there was very
00:07:53high activity, and then just now it was
00:07:56very pleasant for me to hear how representatives
00:08:00of the Pensioners' Green Party, who at the moment
00:08:04are losing, I'm not saying they are ahead, they
00:08:06are thanking how this event was organized,
00:08:10yes, by the way, you are right, it is expensive.
00:08:13It is expensive, there are no protest actions, no discontent,
00:08:16usually how, whoever loses, they are always
00:08:19unhappy, they say, they stole it, we send greetings to
00:08:23Friedrich Merz again, and the absence of protest actions throughout
00:08:27Russia, imagine, more than 91 thousand
00:08:31polling stations, this is just joyful, right now
00:08:34I hear a lot in the studio that
00:08:37some Western countries want
00:08:40this...
00:10:12In principle, yes, this is enough, but we are required to have the guests in the
00:10:16studio say something, please tell us your impressions, your
00:10:19mood, your comments on the elections, dear friends, good
00:10:23night everyone, a wonderful night, in fact, first of all, I would like to thank
00:10:25all
00:10:30the people who came to the polling stations, who
00:10:33voted by electronic
00:10:35voting,
00:10:37thank you for coming, because
00:10:41in these 3 days the fate of our
00:10:44country is indeed being decided,
00:10:47but people were deciding not only the common fate, but
00:10:51also the fate of themselves, their families, their children.
00:10:58The turnout is simply insane, well,
00:11:01everyone is talking about it today, I think, only about
00:11:04this, yes, people come in a good mood, which
00:11:07is important, and despite all the
00:11:11terrorist threats,
00:11:13fakes, it is clear that we are simply a thorn in the
00:11:17throat for many, but the effect was completely
00:11:21opposite, not the one they expected.
00:11:55Let's look at the latest result now, 45%
00:11:58of the protocols have already been processed, yes, these
00:12:02CEC data, five parties have passed
00:12:05the five-percent barrier, they are passing, further
00:12:08we see the layout, five parties are not passing yet, but as they say,
00:12:12it's not over yet, yes, as smart people say, as smart
00:12:15people say, time will tell, thank you very
00:12:18much for participating in our program, thank you to our esteemed viewers, to our
00:12:22dear guests, thank you, I will say again, I think it's superfluous, although it has already
00:12:25been said several times here, thank you to everyone who voted,
00:12:29this is very important, in fact, and this is a little
00:12:32more than elections, especially in these
00:12:55a pilot, but not the one we are all used to, but the profession
00:12:58of the future, a profession that
00:13:02is transforming due to the development of unmanned aerial
00:13:05systems technologies. Our guests are Kirill
00:13:09Fedukovich, a specialist and developer of unmanned aerial
00:13:12vehicles, and Dmitriev Kaisin, rector of University
00:13:162035. What exactly is a drone? I would say,
00:13:20very unusually. A drone is
00:13:23artificial intelligence that has broken into the
00:13:27physical world. I am still speaking
00:13:31from the perspective of the future, therefore
00:13:34we clearly know and understand that in
00:13:37these flying machines there are more and more
00:13:41decisions, more and more intelligence, these are already
00:13:44algorithms. In this sense, we are used to
00:13:47seeing artificial intelligence in the modern world as an application on our
00:13:51phone or computer, but now it exists,
00:13:55it can fly, we have, at least in
00:13:58Moscow, in the city, cute rovers driving around,
00:14:01we give way to them, they cross, they begin to live among
00:14:05us, so we believe that this is artificial intelligence that is gradually
00:14:08beginning to live among us, and what types of drones
00:14:12exist in general? I would probably first
00:14:15divide them by environments, it's still
00:14:18more familiar for us to understand, these are
00:14:21flying drones, these are ground drones, water,
00:14:25underwater? Further now so-called
00:14:28multi-environment drones are developing, which can swim, take off, dive
00:14:32back and fly, but further, continuing
00:14:35this idea that this is artificial intelligence, we say that
00:14:39a satellite is also a drone, by and large it also, in
00:14:42fact, flies, makes certain decisions, communicates with other satellites
00:14:46with ground stations, and we believe that this droneosphere,
00:14:50yes, in the future, a world where drones will live -
00:14:53this is what we are heading for,
00:15:26therefore... aviation, you understand that not
00:15:29all decisions on board are made physically by a person, many
00:15:33decisions are already made by instruments, algorithms, in this
00:15:36sense, this is
00:16:07such a balance between. creating a real map, but purely
00:16:11an applied story, absolutely true, at what height can they
00:16:15work? usually it's somewhere around 500 - 100 meters, it depends
00:16:18on cloudiness, depending on whether these are so-called visual flight
00:16:22rules, of course, so that the camera can actually capture
00:16:25what the drone needs to see, well, here specifically
00:16:29is the work of one of the drones,
00:16:32ah-ha, so it is currently performing flights and
00:16:35according to the video sounding of the earth, well, or...
00:16:39photo and video shooting. Brothers, tell me, is this
00:16:42a controlled model, that is, is there an operator here?
00:16:44Semi-automatic, here you can set a route, along which it will
00:16:48fly itself, move cameras, shoot, you can
00:16:52control it manually, there is always a variation. And I ask
00:16:55because, of course, for many people the question immediately
00:16:58arises, if it can be programmed to
00:17:01follow a certain route, then no one is needed. Well, a pilot
00:17:05is always needed, a person who controls the situation, because he always
00:17:09can encounter some abnormal situation, because
00:17:12for automatic flights a navigation system is always
00:17:15required. What is an FPV drone?
00:17:18An FPV drone is, well, FPV generally stands for First Person View, so
00:17:22it's practically any drone that has a camera, from which we can
00:17:25watch - so, we receive a video image from its
00:17:29board. But in common parlance now, these are
00:17:32fast drones that are used for - such active
00:17:35flights in goggles, that is, there are drones that have, well, almost all
00:17:39drones have cameras, and we control some drones
00:17:43by wearing goggles, taking remote controls, and flying manually,
00:17:46these drones are usually called FPV. Is there any error algorithm,
00:17:50if what do you mean, piloting
00:17:53errors? We get used to it, there is
00:17:57a special initial
00:18:00training course, which includes errors, of course, that is, in
00:18:03difficult conditions, is there such an algorithm for
00:18:07drones, for those who are learning?
00:18:11Well, at least in our courses, which were done, conducted, and completed, there
00:18:14is always a course on emergency situations, repairs,
00:18:18troubleshooting, and so on, so in some form, of course, it is present, can
00:18:22we demonstrate some drone in the studio
00:18:25now, at least show the viewers how this
00:18:27story flies, yes, of course.
00:18:31Drone basketball, here
00:18:32are
00:18:47microchips, they are not yet made
00:18:49by hand, but someday this will go into mass
00:18:53production, which means it will be conveyor work, well, microchips themselves are
00:18:57not made by hand, they are naturally produced on special
00:19:00machines, so we get a board, this is the usual drone device.
00:19:03in the following way: there is a frame on which all electronics are located,
00:19:07motors are installed on the frame, in order for
00:19:11the motors to rotate, we need a motor
00:19:14speed controller, which will set the number
00:19:17of revolutions and which motor should rotate at this second,
00:19:20are the engines autonomous, no, all this is connected to
00:19:24the flight controller, which is the brain of the drone, which
00:19:27controls it, I meant, do all four work at once
00:19:31or do they work simultaneously.
00:19:34in their own way, because when we turn in one direction,
00:19:37the engines on one axis work more, on the other less, and so
00:19:40on, so in order to control
00:19:44it, we need a radio receiver,
00:19:47which is paired with the
00:19:50equipment, and in order to receive a video image, we need
00:19:54a camera and a video transmitter, which transmits the image to video goggles,
00:19:57this is standard - the standard model of any
00:20:01UAV, hmm, well, multirotor type, I look at this
00:20:04technology. science is moving forward so quickly, how
00:20:08to adapt those who are learning to a rapidly
00:20:11changing system? I would
00:20:13say that with drones, as with
00:20:16computers and mobile phones, the same trend is gradually
00:20:20happening, they are gradually becoming simpler in terms of
00:20:23application, they are becoming smarter and more
00:20:27convenient to use, in this sense, the design itself
00:20:30becomes more complex, the tasks of engineers and developers,
00:20:33of course, become more and more complex for... for the user, well, if
00:20:37we say that a five-to-seven-year-old child can learn to control a drone, everything
00:20:41is becoming simpler and simpler for us. In fact, in
00:20:43our programs,
00:20:45we see that about 50% of students are not schoolchildren and students,
00:20:50they are adults, 30+,
00:20:54who are taking a drone in their hands for the first time in their lives and starting
00:20:58to learn, getting this profession in order
00:21:00to change their career, find
00:21:03themselves in this very rapidly developing labor
00:21:06market, and this career is promising,
00:21:10apparently, so,
00:21:13the task, the state task is to get as many
00:21:16specialists as possible in this area. In today's times, absolutely
00:21:21true, and when we talk about the scope of application of unmanned
00:21:25systems, it's not just traditionally
00:21:28aircraft designers, people who develop radio electronics, not just
00:21:32the operators themselves, but also those people who further
00:21:35make decisions and use drones in agriculture, in forestry,
00:21:39in cadastral work, which we already
00:21:42mentioned today, in education,
00:21:45in theater and art, it is also starting to work. In this
00:21:49sense, we are talking about such a dronification of different spheres and
00:21:53industries, and specialists, professionals, as I said, in forestry
00:21:57and agriculture also need to understand what this product is for, what
00:22:01they will do with the data, with the information
00:22:04that the drone will bring them, having monitored, for example, a pipeline
00:22:08for damage or a power line, or
00:22:11monitoring construction and controlling the construction process of buildings
00:22:15and structures, there is a huge
00:22:18demand and deficit now in the labor market for specialists in those
00:22:22industries where drones are beginning to be used, over 40
00:22:25thousand job vacancies currently exist, over
00:22:2940 thousand we already see a need now
00:22:32in areas related to the use of unmanned aerial
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00:29:59well, we are now talking about civilian
00:30:02use,
00:30:07in today's
00:30:09times, the use of a different nature
00:30:12even prevails over civilian use,
00:30:15already, the very concept of combat operations is moving into some
00:30:20other dimension, just as it used to be
00:30:23an infantry-cavalry story, then
00:30:26artillery, then tank, aviation
00:30:30and so on. Now drones fill the space
00:30:34psychologically just incredibly.
00:30:38Well, tell me, do you train such people?
00:30:41Yes, of course, there is also demand from such
00:30:45employers and customers, but
00:30:48in general, talking about the evolution of drones, it should
00:30:51be noted that the most widespread
00:30:55drones currently used in combat operations are
00:30:59absolutely civilian commercial drones, created for
00:31:02wedding photographers, videographers, and for monitoring and
00:31:05reconnaissance, drones are also used that were originally created
00:31:09for purely civilian purposes. in recent years. different
00:31:12directions, from so-called manual control
00:31:22of FPV pilots to
00:31:26the gradual introduction of, among other things, artificial intelligence technologies,
00:31:28flight along the underlying surface in conditions of electronic warfare,
00:31:32electronic reconnaissance, you do not have the ability to use
00:31:36radio signal navigation,
00:31:39respectively, flying on pre-loaded
00:31:43maps, and this is exactly... the decisions that the drone automatically
00:31:47makes, satellite navigation, and so on, all of this, let's say,
00:31:50seriously reshapes the industry of creating
00:31:53unmanned aerial vehicles. This is a very interesting
00:31:56point, because in
00:31:59society's general perception, naturally
00:32:03the question arises: everything that is controlled can be nullified,
00:32:07meaning no signal, and that's it, and this piece of
00:32:10metal will simply fall. How to deal with
00:32:14this? Well, there are different ways to solve
00:32:17problems. This is either satellites through which
00:32:21radio control and video transmission are distributed, these are autonomous
00:32:25various systems. Well, plus it's not always
00:32:28possible to suppress that or another
00:32:31frequency. That is, the jammer doesn't always work directly in that range. So,
00:32:35a frequency range is selected where accordingly it doesn't
00:32:38jam, but all this is moving forward by leaps and bounds.
00:32:41So, systems will surely appear.
00:32:46Anti-combat, that is, fighting this thing,
00:32:49uh, and even satellite signals can be blocked.
00:32:53Perhaps this implies, in all likelihood, that someday this
00:32:57artificial intelligence, built into it, will allow it to
00:33:00work autonomously with
00:33:03a given task. Yes, yes, that's how it is now, because
00:33:07my colleague said that now there are systems
00:33:10for flights over the underlying surface, meaning a map of the terrain is pre-loaded,
00:33:14a route is built. And it flies with the help of its
00:33:17internal systems, without radio transmissions, satellite communication,
00:33:21GPS, and so on, only based on its sensors
00:33:25inside. I'll draw an analogy with drone
00:33:28racing, which we just talked about, and recently at
00:33:32international competitions - artificial intelligence
00:33:35overtook a physical pilot. So already,
00:33:39on our level, on the track, predefined, both the best
00:33:42pilots in the world and artificial intelligence compete at the same level.
00:34:15is limited in certain parameters, including
00:34:18physiological ones, and this thing will probably be able to
00:34:22do a little more than a person can do
00:34:25at - at the helm or with the stick, plus
00:34:28speeds are increasing. If in drone racing, I understand, there's
00:34:32probably up to 200 maximum, right? Probably a little more,
00:34:36but now there are drones on small
00:34:39jet engines, which or on electricity, an electric
00:34:42drone, just recently set a record.
00:35:45to provide first aid to those who need it, but
00:35:49who can, then the question is, how do
00:35:52you think, how much time should pass for this drone, say,
00:35:56to be able to deliver a doctor there too? Speaking of delivering
00:35:59goods, especially small ones, when we're talking about 2, 3, 5 kg,
00:36:03a first aid kit is unlikely to weigh 100 kg. Such solutions already
00:36:07exist. For example, we actively cooperate with and train
00:36:10the Ministry of Emergency Situations, which is precisely in fires, in
00:36:13floods, in such difficult situations, they deliver medicines,
00:36:17water, food, basic sets to people who find themselves
00:36:20in such situations. If we are talking about transporting
00:36:24a person, then from the point of view of size, from the point of view
00:36:28of drone power, there is no problem at all. I would say that here the question
00:36:31is about safety and the trust
00:36:35of our society, your and my
00:36:38somewhat unknown soulless machine that will
00:36:42pick us up. As for air taxis, they are in Dubai, at
00:36:45the Chinese, we have the first solutions there.
00:36:49And there was already an attempt
00:36:52to deliver a living creature
00:36:54somewhere in... the idea by
00:36:58task, as far as I know, well, in such a
00:37:01massive way, of course not, these are the first test flights and individual
00:37:04enthusiasts, that is, in industrial, in commercial such a
00:37:07scale, these solutions are not yet applied, well, the forecast
00:37:11is probably that this is still a perspective for 5-7
00:37:14years, this is clear, no, I am now recalling, and you can
00:37:18also recall, the exploration of space, so, first dogs,
00:37:22mice and so on, only after many, many
00:37:26various checks.
00:37:30a flight with a cosmonaut was allowed. Here,
00:37:33probably, it will be the same, approximately the same logic, probably, approximately the same number
00:37:37of years from the first flights,
00:37:40therefore we say, probably, that 5-7 years is the perspective when
00:37:43understandable commercial application scenarios will
00:37:47appear, and that means it will already enter our lives.
00:37:51Well, tell me, if it's not difficult, the difference, well,
00:37:54stress resistance of the pilot.
00:38:04There is a difference, after all, in psychology surely, especially during
00:38:08combat operations.
00:38:12We had an institute that conducted
00:38:15research on this topic. They looked at
00:38:18how, well, at the effect of stress during
00:38:21piloting, specifically in races. But I think that in
00:38:25the conditions of a special military operation, there's a bit
00:38:28more adrenaline, after all, than in simple civilian
00:38:31use. Well, and this
00:38:34somehow, it's medicine in its purest form,
00:38:38it's either psychology, well, here it's probably more psychology, understandable, but
00:38:42psychology also belongs to medicine, in principle.
00:38:45So, this is also trained, just as pilots
00:38:48are trained for flights in special conditions and so
00:38:52on. It's the same thing. There are
00:38:55indeed, well, already proven methods,
00:38:58confirmed by research, of psychological testing, which
00:39:02show a predisposition, an initial, natural one, of a person from the point of view
00:39:06of their psychology, probably neurophysiology.
00:39:08The accuracy of such studies is around 95%.
00:39:12By asking a few questions, conducting a small
00:39:15test, we can tell how predisposed you will
00:39:19be to performing work specifically with
00:39:23the use of a FPV drone. Here we are talking more about controlling with
00:39:26goggles using a remote control. Well, back when we took our driver's test, we
00:39:30also went through the engine and so on and so
00:39:34forth. Today there is none of that. Control systems, traffic
00:39:38rules and so on. Guys
00:39:40are taught how to repair these things, yes, of course,
00:39:44now in principle a good pilot should be able to do everything, he should be able to
00:39:48assemble, and fly and set up, because when you go
00:39:51there to work, yes, or to fly for yourself,
00:39:55any unforeseen situation, a wire broke off. Or something else
00:39:58happened, that needs to be fixed so you don't have to go home.
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00:44:48not just pilots can be trained, but an agronomist,
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00:44:54anyone. Then there will be a related
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00:45:00forest protection, well, general nature protection - these
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00:45:06specialists, this also... You can take any specialist and give him
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00:45:17an aid in his profession. Do you have this?
00:45:20That's right, we call this phenomenon a hybrid profession,
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