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00:00:12Live from Washington. This is
00:00:15BBC News. President Trump dismisses dismisses calls for tighter controls
00:00:18controls on artificial intelligence, intelligence, saying there's a sick
00:00:22sick conspiracy against AI. A senior senior Anthropic executive gives
00:00:26gives the BBC more detail about why why one of the world's leading AI
00:00:30AI firms disagrees with the President's
00:00:32President's assessment. If we continue continue as we are, which is basically
00:00:35basically a broadly totally unregulated unregulated industry developing incredibly
00:00:39incredibly powerful technology that that is getting much, much smarter
00:00:42smarter all the time, likely soon soon smarter than people. Then I
00:00:45I think that we are rolling dice.
00:00:48dice. Saudi Arabia closes a critical critical oil pipeline after a massive
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00:01:14Hello, I'm Amanda Walker. We begin here in the US where President
00:01:18President Trump is dismissing calls calls to slow down the development
00:01:22development of artificial intelligence intelligence despite prominent industry
00:01:25industry leaders urging regulation regulation to reduce the pace. He
00:01:28He says those urging a slowdown are are part of what he called a sick
00:01:32sick conspiracy waged by treasonous treasonous and traitors. Mr Trump
00:01:35Trump said all that is needed to to keep AI safe is a, quote, strong
00:01:39strong and smart president. He said said that China is the only country
00:01:42country that would benefit from a a slowdown and that whoever wins
00:01:46wins AI wins. China's Ministry of of Foreign Affairs also fired back
00:01:50back today against calls to slow slow AI development, calling them,
00:01:54them, quote, fear mongering. President President Trump and Chinese leader
00:01:56leader Xi Jinping are expected to to discuss AI when they meet later
00:02:00later this month. Share prices for for artificial intelligence fell
00:02:04fell sharply on Monday. That's after after some of the world's biggest
00:02:06biggest AI developers said that the the technology could outpace humans
00:02:10humans ability to understand and
00:02:12and control it well. In an interview interview with BBC News, Anthropic
00:02:16Anthropic co-founder Jack Clarke Clarke was asked whether AI could
00:02:19could speed up advancements of its its own accord. Yeah, that's one
00:02:23one of the kinds of risks that people people worry about here. And the
00:02:26the point that we're making is we we have agency here. There are things
00:02:30things that we can do and the things things that we can do is, as we outline
00:02:34outline in the essay, is get third
00:02:36third parties to come in and kind kind of embed themselves in these
00:02:40these companies, audit what we're we're doing, check our safety and
00:02:42and security. So it's not just us us writing our own safety and security
00:02:46security playbooks, but for a third third parties checking it. Number
00:02:50Number two, get industry together together to agree on common standards standards that we can implement to
00:02:54to reduce the risk of this and then then get governments to agree that
00:02:58that those are sensible standards. standards. And then the third step,
00:03:00step, which will be the hardest one, one, is get the world's great powers,
00:03:04powers, including the US and China, China, to have dialogue about this,
00:03:08this, because these issues, you know, know, transcend any individual country
00:03:11country or set of nations. And to
00:03:14to be clear, it is just worth underlying underlying this what you have actually
00:03:17actually seen, what's moved from
00:03:18from the realm of theory to actually
00:03:21actually being observed is the ability
00:03:24ability of the AI to sort of deceive
00:03:26deceive the people who should be be kind of controlling them. And
00:03:29And indeed a lack of control from
00:03:32from humans like yourself. Yes. Last
00:03:35Last year Anthropic did a load of
00:03:37of safety research here where we
00:03:40we showed in, in simulated examples, examples, cases where agents might
00:03:43might lie to people, where they might might try and break out of their
00:03:47their testing environment. These These kinds of things. This year
00:03:49year we've observed that kind of
00:03:52of stuff in the wild. So it's gone gone from an academic demonstration.
00:03:59From an academic demonstration. But our researchers did to study study the problem to a real behaviour behaviour exhibited by real systems
00:04:03systems in the lab. That's what's what's changed. And therefore these
00:04:07these systems could be impossible, impossible, could be impossible to
00:04:10to control. At some point we're reaching
00:04:12reaching that threshold imminently. I would say if you don't
00:04:16don't take any actions today, you you are massively increasing the
00:04:19the chances of ending up with impossible
00:04:21impossible to control, out of control
00:04:24control AI systems. But the whole whole point is we can take actions.
00:04:27actions. The actions that you can can take are simple and they're achievable.
00:04:31achievable. And Anthropic has already already taken one, which is we've
00:04:33we've agreed that we are going to
00:04:36to embed third parties in the next
00:04:38next single digit weeks inside our our labs so that they can check the
00:04:42the work that we're doing and they they can validate to others that
00:04:45that we have safety and security security practices that reduce these
00:04:48these kinds of risks. It sounds like
00:04:51like you're sort of arguing that that you have not a great deal of
00:04:54of agency here, that there's maybe maybe a runaway train, but aren't aren't you guys the runaway trains
00:04:58trains here? We have tremendous agency agency here. I mean, that's why we're
00:05:01we're talking about this. And we're
00:05:03we're and we've taken actions which
00:05:05which exercise our agency, like putting putting third party evaluators in.
00:05:09in. We've published details about about this. We have published some
00:05:12some of the best science on how to
00:05:13to control and prevent these things. things. There is a huge amount to
00:05:17to do and there is lots of work that that has been done here. So don't
00:05:20don't take from this. It is the industry
00:05:23industry saying oh, no, like a really really bad thing is coming and there's there's nothing we can do. That's
00:05:27That's the opposite of the message. message. The message is OK. The serious
00:05:30serious moment for the technology technology has arrived. It's no longer
00:05:33longer just got to be industry calling calling the shots here. It needs
00:05:36needs to be industry and government government and we need to get some
00:05:39some kind of policy regime in place.
00:05:42place. I asked Asad Ramzanali director director of artificial intelligence
00:05:46intelligence and technology policy policy at the Vanderbilt Policy Accelerator,
00:05:49Accelerator, whether these alarm alarm bells should prompt immediate
00:05:52immediate action from the government government or the AI companies themselves. themselves. I think what's going
00:05:56going on right now is you've got got a couple of companies who are
00:05:59are repeatedly telling us that they're they're experimenting with and developing
00:06:02developing products that might be be dangerous. On the one hand, we
00:06:05we have to step back and say it is is on them to actually slow down.
00:06:09down. You might want an act of Congress, Congress, and I would love a congressionally
00:06:13congressionally mandated regime that that requires safety and testing
00:06:16testing and bias testing and anti-trust anti-trust modernisation. But absent
00:06:20absent that action, the companies
00:06:23companies have autonomy. These are are corporations created pursuant
00:06:26pursuant to state law, subject to to liability for the harms they create.
00:06:30create. They've got shareholders. shareholders. They've got executives
00:06:32executives who have names and titles, titles, and they have autonomy to
00:06:36to make decisions. If they believe believe they need to slow down, they they should. So why are they almost
00:06:39almost suggesting that they don't don't have that autonomy? It's unclear unclear to me. It's unclear. David
00:06:43David Sax, President Trump's former former AI tsar, tweeted yesterday
00:06:46yesterday look, if the leading companies companies which there's only a couple
00:06:49couple if they believe this and they they agree on these points, they they should take that action. I agree
00:06:53agree with that. Do you agree with with them in principle that all of
00:06:56of this needs to slow down? I agree
00:06:58agree that we need to have a regulatory
00:07:01regulatory regime that prioritises prioritises safety, that requires
00:07:05requires pre-deployment testing, testing, that requires when there there are incidents, those get reported
00:07:08reported and that there's a private
00:07:11private there's a public investigative investigative body that can actually actually look into what happened
00:07:14happened and that we should enforce enforce real laws when there are
00:07:18are incidents. I believe that there's there's a whole host of issues we
00:07:20we need to do. Slowing down can be be part of that, but that's the action
00:07:24action the companies can take on on their own. So what do you say? say? What would you say needs to
00:07:28to happen right now and can it happen happen without government buy. In
00:07:30In right now? If the companies believe believe that they're doing something
00:07:34something that is dangerous, they they those companies are led by individual individual people who should make
00:07:37make the decision to reprioritize reprioritize staff that are developing
00:07:41developing products to focus on safety. safety. That is something that they
00:07:44they can do today. We've heard a a lot today, haven't we, about what
00:07:47what AI models might be capable of, of, what they've all already been
00:07:50been capable of, which has caused caused a lot of fear. What are you
00:07:58What are you scared about? What's keeping you up at night when when it comes to this AI development?
00:08:02development? My biggest concern is is that we don't get a regulatory regulatory regime, a publicly accountable accountable regime in order before
00:08:05before there is some kind of big big incident that actually causes causes real damage or threatens lives
00:08:09lives in a meaningful way. Right Right now we know about national
00:08:12national security risks. We know know about security risks, those
00:08:15those turning into harms would be
00:08:16be a big problem. So with that in
00:08:19in mind, I mean, what these fears fears that people have at the moment,
00:08:22moment, we hear a lot about people people saying I'm scared. You know,
00:08:25know, this is do people need to be be more informed about what potentially
00:08:29potentially could lie ahead here? here? Is that part of the role that that these companies should also
00:08:32also be playing? I actually think think the right on the other actor
00:08:36actor that we haven't talked about about is the representatives of those
00:08:38those people. Those people have elected elected people to Congress whose
00:08:41whose job it is to think about security
00:08:44security and innovation and safety. safety. And they should be passing
00:08:47passing laws that actually require require the companies to do what what they alone won't do. Now, absent
00:08:51absent those laws, I still believe believe that individuals have a responsibility
00:08:55responsibility to do the right thing. thing. But Congress can pass laws.
00:08:58laws. What do you make of Trump's
00:09:00Trump's reaction? Just being so enthusiastically
00:09:04enthusiastically against this and and suggesting that, you know, it's it's traitorous to suggest that there
00:09:08there should be a slowdown? Yeah, Yeah, I think it flies in the face face of what the companies are telling
00:09:12telling us, what leading experts experts are telling us, what people
00:09:14people outside of companies are telling telling us and what American voters voters are telling pollsters. It's
00:09:18It's telling everybody that they're they're wrong. And I believe that that we should listen to the people
00:09:22people when they're worried about about these companies and they don't don't trust these companies. So both
00:09:25both sides need to meet in the middle middle somewhere. I don't think we
00:09:28we need to meet in the middle. I I think we need to start with what's what's right, what's the right thing
00:09:32thing to do. We should articulate articulate that clearly. We should should have a system that allows
00:09:36allows for AI to develop for the the good things that it might bring,
00:09:39bring, but that it does regulate. regulate. And when things go wrong, wrong, companies and individuals
00:09:43individuals are held accountable. And just very briefly, briefly, are you scared when you
00:09:47you obviously you're very invested invested in this and you know, more more than most. Are you scared about
00:09:50about the future of AI? So sometimes sometimes these fears get really
00:09:53really overblown. I am scared of of the concentration of power that
00:09:56that we're already seeing happen. happen. I'm scared of the concentration concentration of market power that
00:10:00that we're seeing. These companies companies accumulate. And I'm scared
00:10:03scared that there are real risks risks to cybersecurity, to physical physical security. I believe that
00:10:07that we can make the right decisions decisions to avoid harms, but we
00:10:11we actually need to make those decisions. decisions. Here in Washington. A
00:10:14A major shift in US environmental
00:10:17environmental policy that could have have massive implications for the
00:10:20the global climate emergency. The The Trump administration confirmed
00:10:23confirmed on Monday that it will will no longer put limits on the
00:10:26the pollution from power plants while
00:10:28while burning coal and gas. Lee Zeldin, Zeldin, who is the administrator
00:10:32administrator of the US Environmental Environmental Protection Agency, Agency, announced the change during
00:10:35during a meeting of G20 energy ministers
00:10:38ministers in Houston. Power plants plants are the second largest source
00:10:41source of carbon dioxide emissions
00:10:43emissions in the United States, after after transportation. Scientists
00:10:46Scientists have long warned that that industrialised countries in
00:10:50in particular have to cut emissions emissions drastically if the world
00:10:53world is to avoid the most devastating devastating impacts of climate change.
00:10:57change. President Trump's administration administration has rolled back a
00:11:00a string of policies aimed at curbing curbing climate change, while at
00:11:03at the same time promoting fossil
00:11:05fossil fuel production. Let's hear
00:11:07hear from Lee Zeldin. The years of
00:11:09of the Obama and Biden administration administration working to destroy
00:11:13destroy coal and natural gas in America
00:11:15America are over. Our White House
00:11:17House correspondent Bernd Debusmann Debusmann has more details. Well,
00:11:20Well, this is very much not a surprise. surprise. And it was first the administration
00:11:23administration first signalled it it would do it last year. But what what they've essentially done is
00:11:27is repeal Biden era rules governing governing greenhouse gas emissions
00:11:31emissions on power plants. And there's
00:11:32there's also a kind of companion companion proposal which would kind
00:11:36kind of strip the Environmental Protection
00:11:38Protection Agency's ability to regulate regulate greenhouse gas emissions
00:11:42emissions from power plants in the
00:11:44the future for climate change reasons. reasons. So that would mean that
00:11:48that subsequent administrations, administrations, the EPA wouldn't
00:11:50wouldn't have that power barring
00:11:53barring legislation from Congress. Congress. This is very, very likely
00:11:56likely to be met with a legal challenge challenge almost immediately. So
00:11:59So it may ultimately be up to the the court system to decide whether
00:12:02whether this is implemented or not.
00:12:08not. Some breaking news now the US
00:12:10US Supreme Court has rejected President President Trump's restrictions on
00:12:13on mail in ballots for now. In the the run up to November's mid-term
00:12:17mid-term elections, the Trump administration administration has pushed for restrictions
00:12:19restrictions on mail in ballots, ballots, claiming they lead to voter
00:12:23voter fraud. The Supreme Court ruling ruling on Monday leaves in place
00:12:26place a lower court decision that that blocked the US Postal Service
00:12:29Service from enforcing new regulations regulations for mail voting. States
00:12:33States can continue to send out mail
00:12:34mail ballots the same way they have have for years, election officials
00:12:38officials have stressed there is is no time to change the way people
00:12:41people can vote so soon before the
00:12:44the mid-term elections, and you can
00:12:45can find more on that on our website,
00:12:50website, bbc.com/news. Still to come,
00:12:52come, President Trump says Ukraine Ukraine and Russia have agreed not
00:12:55not to strike energy targets as he
00:12:57he blames war the in Ukraine for
00:13:00for the rising price of diesel. More More on that after the
00:14:03interviews, results and goals as as we follow every twist of the Premier
00:14:07Premier League season here on BBC
00:14:10BBC News. Live with BBC News to the
00:14:16the Middle East now, where Houthi Houthi fighters say Saudi Arabia
00:14:20Arabia launched air raids across across western Yemen on Monday after
00:14:23after the Iran backed militia attacked attacked military bases in the kingdom.
00:14:27kingdom. It comes as the Houthis Houthis also sees key islands in
00:14:30in the Red Sea as they attempt to
00:14:32to choke off access to the Bab al-Mandab
00:14:35al-Mandab Strait. Saudi forces have have been attacking the Houthis in
00:14:38in support of Yemeni government forces forces to regional energy officials
00:14:41officials on Monday told The Associated Associated Press that a Saudi oil
00:14:45oil pipeline hit by suspected Iran Iran backed militias in Iraq will
00:14:49will take weeks to repair. The more
00:14:52more than 700 mile East West pipeline pipeline had been used to funnel
00:14:55funnel crude oil from the Gulf to
00:14:57to ports on the Red Sea. It had rerouted
00:15:01rerouted about 4% of total world world oil supplies after the effective
00:15:04effective closure of the Strait of of Hormuz. Amid the ongoing US-Iran
00:15:08US-Iran war. Our Middle East correspondent correspondent Hugo Bachega has more.
00:15:12more. The Houthis say they fired fired dozens of missiles and drones
00:15:15drones at a military base in southern
00:15:18southern Saudi Arabia, targeting targeting radar systems, runways
00:15:22runways and ammunition depots, and and there were emergency alerts issued
00:15:25issued by the Saudi authorities for for several locations around this
00:15:29this base. And in Yemen, government
00:15:31government forces supported by Saudi Saudi Arabia are trying to fight
00:15:35fight back. The Houthis have accused
00:15:37accused Saudi Arabia of carrying
00:15:39carrying out more than 300 air strikes
00:15:42strikes in the past five days. This This has been a rapid advance by
00:15:45by the Houthis, capturing a key territory
00:15:49territory along the Red Sea. And And the fear here is that this could
00:15:52could reignite the civil war in Yemen.
00:15:55Yemen. The United Nations says that
00:15:58that more than 80,000 people have have already been displaced because
00:16:01because of the fighting, and we still still don't know if the Houthis will
00:16:05will try to seize even more territory
00:16:07territory or if there will be a larger
00:16:11larger offensive by the government government and its allies. But the
00:16:14the violence in Yemen is also putting
00:16:17putting pressure on energy supplies supplies because the Red Sea has
00:16:20has become a key alternative for
00:16:22for Saudi oil exports. Given that
00:16:24that the Strait of Hormuz has been
00:16:26been effectively closed because of
00:16:28of the US war against Iran, and it
00:16:31it isn't clear if the Houthis have
00:16:34have the ability or are planning
00:16:36planning to disrupt a shipment in
00:16:39in this vital waterway. And finally,
00:16:41finally, reports say that a crucial
00:16:44crucial Saudi pipeline that was struck struck in a drone attack a few days
00:16:47days ago is likely to remain closed
00:16:51closed for a few weeks for the damage
00:16:54damage to be repaired. And this could
00:16:56could squeeze oil prices even further.
00:16:59further. Meanwhile, several Gulf Gulf states are struggling amid the the stalemate between the US and
00:17:03and Iran. It comes as an emergency emergency summit due on Monday between
00:17:06between Iran and Arab Gulf nations
00:17:09nations was postponed late on Sunday, Sunday, Iran's foreign ministry said
00:17:12said that Saudi Arabia had called called for the meeting to be put
00:17:16put on hold indefinitely. Alia Al Al Khalid is the former member of
00:17:19of Kuwait's National Assembly. I I asked her how her country is being
00:17:23being affected. Yes I think, Amanda,
00:17:25Amanda, you do know that Kuwait air
00:17:27air defence has repeatedly intercepted intercepted Iranian ballistic missiles
00:17:31missiles and drones and some of those
00:17:33those strikes affected energy facilities
00:17:35facilities and have caused some infrastructure
00:17:38infrastructure damage and electricity, electricity, electricity plants and
00:17:40and some oil fields and multiple
00:17:43multiple injuries among personnel
00:17:45personnel and workers at those areas.
00:17:48areas. What other effects are being being felt? Obviously, the economy economy being hit hard because of
00:17:52of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz
00:17:54Hormuz and the focus on the Kuwaiti Kuwaiti economy when it comes to
00:17:58to producing oil. Yeah, of course
00:18:02course nobody can deny that the blockage
00:18:04blockage of the Strait of Hormuz
00:18:06Hormuz by Iran has severely restricted
00:18:09restricted Kuwait primary shipping shipping lanes, causing a backlog
00:18:13backlog in oil exports and increasing
00:18:16increasing state revenues. So therefore,
00:18:19therefore, to combat mounting budget
00:18:23budget deficit that Kuwait is suffering
00:18:26suffering from and massive reconstruction reconstruction costs, the Kuwaiti
00:18:30Kuwaiti government issued emergency
00:18:32emergency decrees allowing it to
00:18:35to borrow up to 10% from its future
00:18:38future Generation Fund. So how would
00:18:40would you describe the difference
00:18:43difference for the regular lives
00:18:45lives of Kuwaitis since before this
00:18:47this war and now during it still? still? Well, you know, I have to
00:18:51to be frank in here. You know, at
00:18:53at the beginning of the strikes,
00:18:56strikes, Kuwaitis were afraid. But
00:18:59But recently, since the whole matter, matter, you know, started going on,
00:19:02on, I think that we have built some
00:19:06some psychological immunity to it.
00:19:08it. So I cannot tell that there is
00:19:11is a huge difference within the Kuwaiti
00:19:14Kuwaiti population. And I need to
00:19:17to thank our government for that that because they are doing a really
00:19:20really great job. And, you know,
00:19:23know, placing the peace within the
00:19:25the Kuwaitis. Has there been any
00:19:27any effort to diversify the economy
00:19:30economy away from oil? Indeed. You
00:19:34You know, there are so many plants
00:19:37plants that Kuwaiti government are
00:19:39are looking for. But we need to be be frank as well. You know, Kuwait
00:19:43Kuwait has so many challenges because
00:19:44because you know that for the last
00:19:47last 40 years, Kuwaiti depends Kuwait
00:19:51Kuwait government depended massively
00:19:53massively on oil export. So now to
00:19:56to start with such diversification
00:19:59diversification you need lots of of time to do that. US President
00:20:03President Donald Trump says Russia Russia and Ukraine have agreed to
00:20:05to stop attacking each other's energy energy facilities. He made the announcement
00:20:09announcement as global oil prices prices rise to their highest in months,
00:20:12months, in turn pushing up the cost cost of diesel. Writing on Truth
00:20:16Truth Social, he said that Ukraine Ukraine has agreed not to hit Russian
00:20:20Russian energy targets. Russia has has agreed to do likewise. The world's
00:20:24world's diesel price rise is mostly
00:20:27mostly caused by the Russia-Ukraine
00:20:29Russia-Ukraine war, not Iran. The The American Automobile Association
00:20:32Association reported on Monday that that US diesel prices passed the
00:20:36the $6 a gallon Marc, averaging $6.23
00:20:40$6.23 on Monday. President Trump's Trump's remarks come a day after
00:20:43after a Russian drone hit a train train near the Ukraine Poland border.
00:20:47border. It happened minutes after after former British Prime Minister
00:20:50Minister Boris Johnson and the other other and other European officials
00:20:53officials passed through on the way way back from a security summit in
00:20:56in Kyiv. Our diplomatic correspondent correspondent James Landale sent
00:21:00sent this report from Kyiv. What What this incident at the Polish
00:21:03Polish Ukraine border shows is that that Russia is escalating. It's not
00:21:07not just attacking more businesses businesses and energy facilities facilities in Kyiv and elsewhere.
00:21:11elsewhere. It's also now stepping stepping up its attacks on trains,
00:21:15trains, railway infrastructure and and border positions. There have
00:21:17have been strikes on the Moldovan Moldovan border, the Romanian border
00:21:21border and now on Ukraine's border
00:21:23border with Poland. But within that that context, more specifically,
00:21:27specifically, what analysts here here and others are suggesting is
00:21:29is that Russia now is trying to deter
00:21:33deter Europe's allies from coming coming to support Ukraine. In other
00:21:36other words, all of those connections connections the trains, the roads,
00:21:39roads, the border positions, they've
00:21:41they've largely remained untargeted untargeted by Russia so far in this this war. And the question is, is
00:21:45is that now going to step up? European
00:21:49European foreign ministers have been
00:21:51been out and about criticising the
00:21:53the Russian attack, which the Ukrainian Ukrainian authorities said could
00:21:56could well have been targeted to
00:21:58to directly at this train of dignitaries. dignitaries. But the question, of
00:22:01of course, is now what does Europe
00:22:03Europe do now? What does Nato do
00:22:05do now? It could be that they try try and push back against Russia
00:22:09Russia and call Russia out for what what they think it's doing. But there
00:22:12there is now an actual debate of
00:22:15of actually policy change and a very very renowned institute, the Institute
00:22:19Institute for the Study of War, a a think tank that produces policy
00:22:23policy research about Ukraine, has has this morning said Nato should should change its policy. At the
00:22:27the moment, Nato will only intercept
00:22:30intercept Ukrainian missiles when
00:22:32when they have reached Nato airspace.
00:22:34airspace. And the institute says, says, well, why don't why doesn't
00:22:37doesn't Nato take out these drones
00:22:39drones in a kind of buffer zone over
00:22:42over Ukrainian territory? Now, that that is something that the Polish Polish foreign minister, Radek Sikorski,
00:22:46Sikorski, has supported this morning. morning. I know it's supported by by other diplomats here in this town
00:22:50town because I've spoken to them them about it. But that would be
00:22:52be a controversial move and not an an automatic move because there'll
00:22:55there'll be some members of Nato Nato who would be very cautious about
00:22:59about taking that step for fear of of escalation, for fear of some kind
00:23:02kind of direct Nato Russia conflict.
00:23:05conflict. But there is clearly a a debate going on now in European
00:23:09European capitals about how to push push back against Russian incursions,
00:23:12incursions, whether it is here in in Ukraine, on the border with Poland
00:23:15Poland or on in cyber cyber attacks
00:23:18attacks or in undersea cables or or wherever the pressure has been
00:23:21been felt. And I think that is the the test. Now, how does the West
00:23:25West respond to an incident like like this that if it had gone the
00:23:28the other way, could have left some
00:23:30some of Europe's most senior policymakers
00:23:33policymakers dead or injured in a
00:23:35a Russian attack just outside Poland?
00:23:38Poland? James Landale reporting from from Kyiv. Well, before we go, some
00:23:41some of the biggest stars in television television are gathering in Los Angeles
00:23:44Angeles for the Emmy Awards. Big Big American hits like the medical
00:23:48medical drama The Pitt and Widow's Widow's Bay are expected to dominate.
00:23:51dominate. But British shows like like Slow Horses and Half Man are
00:23:55are hoping to scoop some of the top
00:23:56top prizes as well. Our North America America correspondent David Willis
00:24:00Willis reports from the event. Well, Well, Amanda, one thing I should
00:24:03should confirm right off the bat bat is that your eyes do not deceive
00:24:06deceive you. This is a blue carpet,
00:24:08carpet, not a red carpet. That's That's at the behest of the American
00:24:12American network. That's broadcasting broadcasting the Emmy Awards live
00:24:14live in about just over an hour's
00:24:16hour's time. The politics of that.
00:24:19that. I won't get into. But we have
00:24:22have ahead of us 19 awards to be
00:24:24be handed out and the drama category
00:24:27category is dominated by that hospital
00:24:30hospital drama series, The Pitt a
00:24:33a remarkably realistic. It's garnered
00:24:35garnered a lot of plaudits and it
00:24:38it has 25 Emmy nominations that.
00:24:40that. After just two seasons on the
00:24:42the air. As far as the comedy category category is concerned, well, that's
00:24:46that's a little bit more neck and
00:24:47and neck, as it were. There's Hacks
00:24:51Hacks the five series comedy series series here about a woman, a comedian
00:24:55comedian in show business seeking
00:24:57seeking to avoid prejudice up against
00:25:01against Widow's Bay, which is an
00:25:03an upstart, quirky horror comedy
00:25:05comedy series which stars Matthew
00:25:08Matthew Rhys as a mayor trying to to dispel suggestions that the town
00:25:11town he's in charge of is haunted. haunted. Matthew Rhys is also up
00:25:15up for an Emmy for his role in the
00:25:18the Netflix miniseries, which is
00:25:21is called The Beast in Me. We've We've got nominations as well for
00:25:25for people like Sir Gary Oldman, Oldman, who has been nominated three
00:25:28three times for best actor at the
00:25:31the Primetime Emmys for his role role in Slow Horses. But that's going
00:25:35going to be a tough one because he's
00:25:37he's up against Noah Wylie, the star
00:25:39star of The Pitt. We're expecting
00:25:43expecting a lot of commemoration commemoration for Dolly Parton, who
00:25:45who of course passed away just three
00:25:48three weeks ago. The cast of Buffy
00:25:52Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Charlie's Charlie's Angels will be reunited
00:25:56reunited on stage as well. And also
00:25:58also up for an award is Harrison
00:26:01Harrison Ford at the age of 84. He
00:26:04He is facing potentially his first
00:26:07first Hollywood award, if you like, like, for his role in the TV series
00:26:11series Shrinking. David Willis, they're
00:26:14they're bringing the glamour from from LA.. Well, that's it from us
00:26:17us for now, but plenty more to come come here on BBC News. Do
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