Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced). Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a quotation record.
00:00:00MUSIC
00:00:12I'm from Singapore. This is BBC News.
00:00:17News. The US and China dismiss calls calls for tighter
00:00:24Calls for tighter controls on the development of artificial intelligence, intelligence, with President Trump Trump calling the warnings a hoax.
00:00:27hoax. One of the co-founders of Anthropic Anthropic tells the BBC that all all AI companies may be required
00:00:31required to have a compulsory kill kill switch to prevent the technology
00:00:33technology getting out from of control. control. This technology is incredibly
00:00:36incredibly powerful. It is getting getting more powerful by the day
00:00:39day and the window to act. When you you have a small number of companies companies that can build it because
00:00:43because it's still very expensive, expensive, is so narrow. It is a
00:00:47a few years. We are in this window
00:00:49window now. Trump administration administration scraps rules aimed
00:00:53aimed at limiting pollution from from coal and gas power plants, marking
00:00:56marking a huge shift in US environmental
00:00:58environmental policy. And TV's biggest biggest stars are gathering for the
00:01:02the 78th Primetime Emmy Awards will
00:01:03will get you the latest from Hollywood.
00:01:17You're watching Newsday. US President Donald Trump has intensified
00:01:21intensified his attacks on technology technology leaders, calling for more
00:01:24more regulation and a slowdown of of artificial intelligence development. development. In a barrage of posts
00:01:28posts on social media, President President Trump called the warnings
00:01:30warnings a hoax, saying that safety safety depends on a strong and smart
00:01:34smart president. Meanwhile, the BBC's
00:01:37BBC's economic editor Faisal Islam Islam spoke with one of the co-founders co-founders of Anthropic Jack Clark
00:01:41Clark and asked whether AI could could speed up advancements of its
00:01:44its own accord. Yeah, that's one one of the kinds of risks that people
00:01:47people worry about here and the point point that we're making is we have
00:01:51have agency here. There are things things that we can do and the things
00:01:54things that we can do is, as we outline
00:01:57outline in the essay, is get third
00:01:59third parties to come in and kind kind of embed themselves in these
00:02:03these companies, audit what we're we're doing, check our safety and
00:02:05and security. So it's not just us
00:02:07us writing our own safety and security security playbooks, but for a third
00:02:10third parties checking it. Number Number two, get industry together
00:02:14together to agree on common standards standards that we can implement to
00:02:17to reduce the risk of this and then then get governments to agree that
00:02:21that those are sensible standards. standards. And then the third step,
00:02:23step, which will be the hardest one, one, is get the world's great powers,
00:02:27powers, including the US and China, China, to have dialogue about this,
00:02:31this, because these issues, you know, know, transcend any individual country
00:02:34country or set of nations. And to
00:02:37to be clear, it is just worth underlying underlying this. What you have actually
00:02:40actually seen, what has moved from from the realm of theory to actually
00:02:44actually being observed is the ability
00:02:46ability of the AI to sort of deceive
00:02:49deceive the people who should be be kind of controlling them. And
00:02:52And indeed a lack of control from
00:02:55from humans like yourself. Yes. Last
00:02:58Last year Anthropic did a load of
00:03:00of safety research here where we
00:03:03we showed in, in simulated examples, examples, cases where agents might
00:03:06might lie to people, where they might might try and break out of their
00:03:09their testing environment. These These kinds of things. This year
00:03:12year we've observed that kind of
00:03:14of stuff in the wild. So it's gone gone from an academic demonstration. demonstration. But our researchers
00:03:18researchers did to study the problem
00:03:21problem to a real behaviour exhibited exhibited by real systems in the
00:03:24the lab. That's what's changed. And
00:03:28And therefore these systems could
00:03:30could be impossible, could be impossible impossible to control. At some point
00:03:33point we're reaching that threshold
00:03:36threshold imminently. I would say
00:03:38say if you don't take any actions actions today, you are massively
00:03:42massively increasing the chances chances of ending up with impossible
00:03:44impossible to control, out of control
00:03:47control AI systems. But the whole whole point is we can take actions.
00:03:50actions. The actions that you can can take are simple and they're achievable
00:03:54achievable and Anthropic has already already taken one, which is we've
00:03:56we've agreed that we are going to
00:03:59to embed third parties in the next
00:04:01next single digit weeks inside our our labs so that they can check the
00:04:04the work that we're doing and they they can validate to others that
00:04:08that we have safety and security security practices that reduce these
00:04:11these kinds of risks. It sounds like
00:04:14like you're sort of arguing that that you have not a great deal of
00:04:17of agency here, that there's maybe maybe a runaway train, but aren't aren't you guys the runaway trains
00:04:20trains here? We have tremendous agency agency here. I mean, that's why we're
00:04:24we're talking about this. And we're
00:04:26we're and we've taken actions which which are which exercise our agency,
00:04:29agency, like putting third party party evaluators in. We've published
00:04:33published details about this. We We have published some of the best
00:04:35best science on how to control and and prevent these things. There is
00:04:39is a huge amount to do, and there there is lots of work that has been
00:04:42been done here. So don't take from
00:04:44from this. It is for industry saying saying oh, no, like a really bad
00:04:48bad thing is coming and there's nothing nothing we can do. That's the opposite
00:04:50opposite of the message. The message message is OK. The serious moment
00:04:53moment for the technology has arrived. arrived. It's no longer just got
00:04:57got to be industry calling the shots shots here. It needs to be industry
00:05:00industry and governments, and we we need to get some kind of policy
00:05:03policy regime in place. China has has also rejected calls for tighter
00:05:07tighter controls, calling them, quote, quote, fear mongering. President President Trump and Chinese leader
00:05:10leader Xi Jinping are expected to to discuss AI when they meet later
00:05:13later this month. Well, for more more on this, we can speak with Nate
00:05:16Nate Soaries, an artificial intelligence intelligence author and researcher researcher known for his work on
00:05:19on existential risk from artificial artificial intelligence. He's currently
00:05:22currently the President of the Machine Machine Intelligence Research Institute,
00:05:26Institute, and a really good to be be able to get your thoughts on this this today. What do you see as the
00:05:30the stakes in the AI race between
00:05:32between the US and China? The stakes
00:05:34stakes are human extinction, just just like Jacob Coxon said when he
00:05:38he resigned. Just like Evan Hubinger
00:05:40Hubinger a Anthropic alignment researcher researcher said there's a good chance
00:05:43chance that if we get this wrong, wrong, these AI's wipe out humanity.
00:05:47humanity. And Xi Jinping and is expected expected to be in Washington in a
00:05:50a few weeks' time to speak with President President Trump. How high up the
00:05:53the agenda do you think this is or or certainly should be? I think it
00:05:57it should be at the top. I think think it's unclear whether it will will be at the top. But just looking
00:06:01looking at the AI developments over over the last week, it's very hard
00:06:04hard to predict and it's becoming becoming more and more salient day day by day. And when we hear people
00:06:08people like Jack Clark from Anthropic, Anthropic, they're speaking about
00:06:11about the threats and how perhaps perhaps there needs to be a kill kill switch. Does it seem a bit rich
00:06:15rich to you that the companies themselves themselves that have created this
00:06:18this don't seem to be able to control control it themselves? You know,
00:06:21know, I predicted for a long time time that they would not be able able to control it once they got
00:06:25got to this point. I do think it's it's a bit rich that they say, you
00:06:29you know, our answer as the first first step is that we're going to
00:06:32to embed third party evaluators. evaluators. OK, what happens when
00:06:35when the third party evaluators say, say, yes, it is dangerous. You know,
00:06:39know, Evan Hubinger this alignment alignment researcher at Anthropic
00:06:42Anthropic said that there is no plan
00:06:45plan yet for aligning these superintelligent superintelligent AIs. I do think
00:06:49think it's good that Anthropic said,
00:06:50said, you know, we're eventually
00:06:53eventually going to need international international collaboration between between governments. I think that
00:06:57that that collaboration will need need to go further than he's saying
00:06:59saying and that when people are trying trying to build technology that has
00:07:03has a serious chance of wiping out
00:07:05out humanity, the answer isn't add add some evaluators and slow down
00:07:08down a bit. The answer is probably probably they shouldn't be trying.
00:07:12trying. Yeah, and perhaps stop what what you're doing would also be perhaps
00:07:16perhaps the thought. So what happens happens then? I mean, if they're they're calling for more regulation, regulation, if the regulation comes
00:07:19comes in that they don't agree with with or are happy with, or it isn't
00:07:23isn't applied across the board, then then what happens? It can seem like
00:07:25like it could be a very complicated
00:07:28complicated thing to sort of
00:07:32manage. You know, I think that ultimately ultimately the world governments governments should not really care
00:07:35care that much with these companies companies say I think that leaders
00:07:39leaders from countries across the the world should take seriously that
00:07:42that this technology could kill all
00:07:44all humans if it gets out of control,
00:07:47control, they should listen very very carefully when the leaders of
00:07:50of these companies say that this this is a very risky technology, technology, and the only reason they
00:07:53they can justify doing it is because because if they don't, the next guy
00:07:56guy will do it worse. And I think
00:07:59think leaders should say nobody's nobody's going to try this. We're
00:08:02We're going to try to set up an enforceable,
00:08:05enforceable, verifiable regime where where we're just not letting people
00:08:08people try to build machines that that are smarter than humans. When
00:08:11When we have so little ability to
00:08:14to create machines that do the sort sort of stuff we want. Are there
00:08:17there any examples? I mean, the European European Union has tried to put in
00:08:20in place an AI act. Is that something something that could be expanded
00:08:23expanded on or used as a template?
00:08:26template? I think the closest examples
00:08:27examples are probably actually nuclear nuclear weapons, where this is one
00:08:31one of the few other technologies technologies where humanity has encountered encountered the technology and realised
00:08:35realised that if we get it wrong, wrong, it could literally end the
00:08:39the world. It could kill everybody
00:08:41everybody on the planet. And so despite
00:08:45despite thousands of years of humanity humanity being unable to resist using
00:08:48using stronger and stronger weapons weapons and warfare when it came came to nuclear weapons, we realised
00:08:52realised that we were dealing with with an extinction level threat and
00:08:55and we backed off from the edge of of the cliff. That's the template
00:08:57template I would take with AI. Nate,
00:09:00Nate, thanks very much for your insight insight and your perspective as well.
00:09:03well. Nate Saurez is president of of the Machine Intelligence Research
00:09:06Research Institute. The US is scrapping scrapping rules that limit greenhouse
00:09:10greenhouse gas emissions from power power plants, fuelled by coal and
00:09:13and gas, marking a major shift in in America's environmental policy.
00:09:16policy. The move is expected to face face immediate legal challenges, challenges, with environmental groups
00:09:20groups warning it would come at a
00:09:22a huge cost to the planet. Lee Zeldin, Zeldin, who is the administrator
00:09:26administrator of the US Environmental Environmental Protection Agency, Agency, announced the change during
00:09:30during a meeting of G20 energy ministers
00:09:32ministers in Houston. The years of
00:09:34of the Obama and Biden administration administration working to destroy
00:09:38destroy coal and natural gas in America America are over. Our White House
00:09:42House correspondent Bernd Debusmann Debusmann has more. Well, this is is very much not a surprise. And
00:09:46And it was first the administration administration first signalled it it would do it last year. But what
00:09:50what they've essentially done is is repeal Biden era rules governing
00:09:53governing greenhouse gas emissions emissions on power plants. And there's
00:09:56there's also a kind of companion companion proposal which would kind
00:10:00kind of strip the Environmental Protection
00:10:01Protection Agency's ability to regulate
00:10:04regulate greenhouse gas emissions
00:10:06emissions from power plants in the
00:10:08the future for climate change reasons. reasons. So that would mean that
00:10:12that subsequent administrations, administrations, the EPA wouldn't
00:10:14wouldn't have that power, barring barring legislation from Congress.
00:10:18Congress. This is very, very likely likely to be met with a legal challenge
00:10:21challenge almost immediately. So So it may ultimately be up to the
00:10:24the court system to decide whether whether this is implemented or not.
00:10:28not. Moscow has responded to accusations accusations it deliberately targeted
00:10:31targeted a Ukrainian train station station shortly after top Western
00:10:35Western officials passed through, through, saying Russian forces are are operating across the entire territory
00:10:38territory of Ukraine and will continue continue to do so. Our diplomatic
00:10:42diplomatic correspondent James Landale Landale explains why the incident incident could signal a further escalation
00:10:46escalation in Russia's war against against Ukraine. What all this has
00:10:50has illustrated is just at a very very basic level, is just how much
00:10:53much Russia has stepped up its attacks attacks on trains in Ukraine. There
00:10:57There is a pattern of escalation escalation here that has taken place
00:11:00place in recent weeks. We've seen
00:11:03seen greater attacks on business business infrastructure, on energy
00:11:06energy facilities, more round the the clock attacks, greater use of
00:11:09of fast attack drones. But now specifically,
00:11:12specifically, more trains are being being targeted. The head of Ukraine's
00:11:16Ukraine's train network said that that in August alone, 40 locomotives
00:11:20locomotives here in Ukraine were were attacked. And that's a lot of
00:11:23of trains in a very short space of of time. And that is the Russians
00:11:27Russians will be hoping will have have a real impact on the way the
00:11:30the train operates in this country country and what they hope it will
00:11:33will deter people from going on the
00:11:35the trains. So in other words, what
00:11:38what happened to that special diplomatic
00:11:40diplomatic train, that relative proximity proximity to a Russian attack might
00:11:44might be, you know, something about about the diplomats but also I think
00:11:47think reveals a bigger issue, which which is that these trains are being
00:11:51being hit in terms of the Nato response response to that attack and the fact
00:11:55fact that diplomats were almost caught caught up in it. And this attack
00:11:58attack on this train station very very close to the Polish border.
00:12:02border. It's getting inching closer closer and closer to Nato territory.
00:12:05territory. We had a broad reaction reaction from the international community community in Europe today essentially
00:12:09essentially saying, look, Russia's Russia's just trying to scare us. us. Don't worry too much. The head
00:12:13head of Nato, Marc Rutte, said, look,
00:12:14look, the response from Nato should should be more support for Ukraine.
00:12:18Ukraine. But what it has done is is it's triggered another debate debate about whether Nato should
00:12:22should actually change its rules
00:12:25rules and start actually intercepting intercepting Russian missiles and
00:12:29and drones, not just over Nato territory,
00:12:31territory, as happens now, but over over Ukrainian airspace as well.
00:12:35well. That's something that's not not allowed at the moment. There There would have to be a unanimous
00:12:39unanimous agreement by Nato members members to do that. There's no guarantee guarantee of that happening at all.
00:12:42all. There will be many members fearful fearful of escalation and the risks
00:12:46risks involving Nato in open conflict
00:12:48conflict with Russia. But a serious serious think tank today said this
00:12:52this is something Nato should consider. consider. The foreign Minister of
00:12:55of Poland said that he supported supported this idea of Nato being
00:12:59being much more muscular, and I think think that's a debate that's only
00:13:02only just begun. More still to come come on Newsday, including confirmation
00:13:05confirmation from the US that it it has weapons deployed in space
00:13:09space in what's believed to be the the first public acknowledgement acknowledgement of such capabilities
00:14:13expeditions in the Yorkshire Dales Dales to the Scottish Highlands meeting meeting people proving adventure
00:14:16adventure is far from offline. The
00:14:17The Travel Show on BBC iPlayer. You're
00:14:23You're live with BBC News. Yemen's
00:14:26Yemen's Houthi fighters say Saudi Saudi forces have launched renewed
00:14:29renewed air strikes across the west west of the country after the Houthis,
00:14:32Houthis, who are backed by Iran, Iran, targeted military bases in
00:14:35in Saudi Arabia. It comes as the the Houthis also sees key islands
00:14:38islands in the Red Sea as they attempt attempt to choke off access to the
00:14:41the Bab al-Mandab Strait. Our Middle Middle East correspondent Hugo Bachega
00:14:44Bachega has more. The Houthis say say they fired dozens of missiles
00:14:48missiles and drones at a military
00:14:50military base in southern Saudi Arabia,
00:14:52Arabia, targeting radar systems, systems, runways and ammunition depots,
00:14:56depots, and there were emergency emergency alerts issued by the Saudi
00:14:59Saudi authorities for several locations
00:15:01locations around this base. And in in Yemen, government forces supported
00:15:05supported by Saudi Arabia are trying trying to fight back. The Houthis
00:15:09Houthis have accused Saudi Arabia
00:15:11Arabia of carrying out more than
00:15:14than 300 air strikes in the past
00:15:16past five days. This has been a rapid
00:15:18rapid advance by the Houthis, capturing
00:15:20capturing a key territory along the
00:15:22the Red Sea. And the fear here is
00:15:25is that this could reignite the civil
00:15:27civil war in Yemen. The United Nations
00:15:30Nations says that more than 80,000
00:15:3280,000 people have already been displaced displaced because of the fighting.
00:15:35fighting. And we still don't know know if the Houthis will try to seize
00:15:39seize even more territory or if there
00:15:42there will be a larger offensive
00:15:44offensive by the government and its its allies. But the violence in Yemen
00:15:48Yemen is also putting pressure on
00:15:50on energy supplies because the Red
00:15:52Red Sea has become a key alternative
00:15:55alternative for Saudi oil exports. exports. Given that the Strait of
00:15:59of Hormuz has been effectively closed
00:16:01closed because of the US war against against Iran, and it isn't clear
00:16:05clear if the Houthis have the ability
00:16:07ability or are planning to disrupt
00:16:12disrupt shipment in this vital waterway. waterway. And finally, reports say
00:16:15say that a crucial Saudi pipeline
00:16:18pipeline that was struck in a drone drone attack a few days ago is likely
00:16:21likely to remain closed for a few
00:16:25few weeks for the damage to be repaired.
00:16:28repaired. And this could squeeze squeeze oil prices even further.
00:16:32further. The United States has confirmed confirmed for the first time that
00:16:35that it has deployed weapons in space. space. A spokesperson for the US
00:16:39US Space Force said unspecified weapons weapons were in orbit that were capable
00:16:42capable of defending against hostile
00:16:44hostile adversaries. A 1967 treaty treaty banned weapons of mass destruction
00:16:48destruction in orbit, but since then, then, key powers including the US,
00:16:51US, Russia and China have been exploring exploring other capabilities outside
00:16:54outside the treaty. Well, for more more we can speak with Peter Hayes,
00:16:56Hayes, a lecturer and Space of Space Space policy and international affairs
00:17:00affairs at George Washington University's University's Space Policy Institute.
00:17:02Institute. He was previously a senior senior space policy adviser in the the Pentagon. Peter, really good
00:17:06good to be able to speak to you today today about this. What do you think
00:17:10think or what do we know about the
00:17:11the kind of weapons Space Force is
00:17:15is talking about? Well, I think it's it's significant that they didn't
00:17:19didn't specify that. I think today's
00:17:21today's announcement was quite important important as the first acknowledgement acknowledgement of these types of
00:17:25of weapons. But I don't envision envision that they're going to be
00:17:29be very specific about what those those are. Do you have any thoughts
00:17:32thoughts or ideas of what they could could be? Well, I think the most
00:17:36most likely is that it's some kind
00:17:38kind of electro you know, electronic
00:17:43electronic or cyber weapon, not a
00:17:45a kinetic energy weapon. And do you you think it's reasonable then to
00:17:48to think that other players like
00:17:49like Russia and China also have similar
00:17:52similar weapons? Well, absolutely.
00:17:54absolutely. You've seen over the
00:17:57the past decades testing of a variety
00:17:59variety of these types of things.
00:18:02things. No country has acknowledged acknowledged having them deployed
00:18:05deployed in space. But I think both both the Russians and the Chinese
00:18:09Chinese for a number of years have have imputed these kind of capabilities
00:18:13capabilities to the United States, States, even though the United States States has not acknowledged that.
00:18:16that. Yeah. So why do you think the the US is all Space Force is doing
00:18:19doing this now, making this public?
00:18:23public? Well, it's always a debate debate about what you want to reveal
00:18:26reveal and what you want to conceal.
00:18:29conceal. So you get some kind of of deterrent effect by acknowledging
00:18:32acknowledging these things. But if if push comes to shove and you actually
00:18:36actually have to use them, you don't don't want your adversaries to know
00:18:40know all the details about them. them. But the fact that they've now
00:18:42now made it public, I suppose it it would could also lead then to
00:18:46to the to Russia or China or other other nations also now pursuing this
00:18:49this and it becoming a bit of an
00:18:51an arms race in space. Well, I think
00:18:53think the arms race has been ongoing ongoing for a long time. This is
00:18:57is just kind of a natural extension
00:19:00extension of that. I personally am
00:19:02am glad that it's happened. I mean,
00:19:05mean, once you have a military service service with the responsibility for
00:19:09for doing these things, it's kind kind of tying their hands behind
00:19:12behind their back. If they can't can't acknowledge that they even even have them. And what do you make
00:19:16make of the fact then that last year year President Trump issued an executive
00:19:19executive order underlining the US US Space Force's role in not only
00:19:22only defending assets but also as
00:19:23as an attacking force. Well, again,
00:19:27again, I just see that as kind of of a natural progression. And I think,
00:19:31think, you know, you acknowledge acknowledge the Outer Space Treaty.
00:19:34Treaty. But really the only thing thing that that bans nuclear weapons
00:19:38weapons and weapons of mass destruction. destruction. Those aren't the kind
00:19:41kind of things that we're talking talking about with these types of
00:19:43of systems. And I also note that that when the Russians were given
00:19:47given an opportunity to reaffirm
00:19:49reaffirm their obligation under article
00:19:51article four at the UN Security Council
00:19:54Council in 25, they explicitly denied denied even having those kind of
00:19:57of things. So I just I don't think
00:20:00think there's a lot of ways to control control these things with international international agreements. So what
00:20:04what should we be paying attention
00:20:06attention to going forward? Well,
00:20:10Well, I would suggest that more acknowledgement acknowledgement of these kind of
00:20:13of things on the part of the key
00:20:16key actors being China, Russia and
00:20:17and the United States. And really
00:20:20really kind of how many of these these things, you know, Onesy Twosies
00:20:24Twosies aren't going to have a big big effect, but if there's lots of
00:20:27of them being deployed, then that's
00:20:29that's a lot more concerning. And And obviously they can strike more
00:20:33more quickly at more targets the the more of them there are. Peter, Peter, thanks very much. We'll leave
00:20:36leave it there for now. Peter Hayes, Hayes, a former senior space policy
00:20:40policy adviser in the Pentagon. Prince Prince Harry has complained repeatedly
00:20:44repeatedly that the removal of the the publicly funded security he had
00:20:48had as an active royal has left him him and his family at risk, even
00:20:52even challenging it in courts. It's
00:20:54It's now emerged his security is is going to be reviewed. The committee,
00:20:57committee, which oversees royal and
00:20:59and VIP security known as Ravec, Ravec, is to reconsider the level
00:21:03level of police protection in the the UK now that the Sussexes are
00:21:06are resident here or there. According According to sources close to the
00:21:09the couple. Elinor Rice has the latest. latest. It was the first glimpse
00:21:13glimpse into the new life of the the Sussex family. An Instagram video
00:21:17video posted by Meghan, Duchess of
00:21:19of Sussex showing five-year-old Lilibet Lilibet and seven-year-old Archie
00:21:23Archie their faces hidden enjoying enjoying a trip out. But now a spokesperson
00:21:27spokesperson for the family has confirmed confirmed the children have had to
00:21:29to change schools. Just days into into the new school term. The locations
00:21:33locations of the schools were of of course kept private, but even
00:21:36even so, it's understood that there there were concerns from the family's
00:21:39family's security team about the the practicalities of their first
00:21:43first choice. Prince Harry and his his wife Meghan lost their publicly
00:21:47publicly funded security when they they stepped back from royal duties
00:21:49duties and moved to the US in January
00:21:52January 2020. The Duke of Sussex Sussex appealed that decision, made
00:21:55made by Ravec, an independent body body overseen by the Home Office
00:21:59Office in the court last May and and lost. For the time being. It's
00:22:02It's impossible for me to take my my family back to the UK. I can't
00:22:05can't see a world in which I would would be bringing my wife and children
00:22:09children back to the UK at this point. point. Is it totally normal? But
00:22:12But this summer the family did come come back first on holiday where
00:22:16where Harry appeared at various charity charity events. And now for what's
00:22:19what's been described as an extended extended period of time. As a result,
00:22:22result, it's understood the Sussexes Sussexes will be given a review of
00:22:25of their publicly funded security
00:22:26security now that they are full-time
00:22:30full-time residents rather than visitors. visitors. The King has made clear clear the pair will not be working
00:22:34working royals and will not carry carry out official engagements, but
00:22:37but their security may yet be stepped stepped up as if they were Elinor
00:22:41Elinor Rice. BBC News. One of the the biggest nights in the entertainment
00:22:44entertainment industry's calendar calendar is under way in Hollywood, Hollywood, where a host of A-list
00:22:48A-list TV stars have gathered for for the Primetime Emmy Awards. It's
00:22:51It's been a night of big victories victories with Widow's Bay and Beast
00:22:54Beast and Beast in Me star Matthew Matthew Rhys making Emmy history
00:22:57history with two lead acting role role wins. I've been speaking with
00:23:00with Liam McEwen. He's an entertainment entertainment journalist for The
00:23:03The Associated Press who joined me me from the event. Right behind me
00:23:06me at the Peacock Theatre where it's it's all go. Television's biggest
00:23:09biggest stars are enjoying themselves, themselves, but so far we've seen seen quite an array. And you know,
00:23:13know, if you'd asked me at the start start of the ceremony, kind of who
00:23:17who I could have predicted, it's it's kind of gone that way. I mean,
00:23:19mean, Noah Wylie winning outstanding outstanding lead actor, of course,
00:23:23course, for the pet and the drama drama Series category best lead Actress
00:23:26Actress went to Jean Smart for her
00:23:29her role in Hacks, which obviously obviously has been a five season
00:23:33season kind of run for her. And she's
00:23:35she's won each the Emmy for each each of those seasons. So that is
00:23:39is a record. We've also seen Welsh Welsh actor Matthew Rhys win for
00:23:42for The Beast in Me. He's, of course course also nominated for Widow's
00:23:46Widow's Bay. We've also seen Stephen
00:23:48Stephen Root when best Guest actor actor for Widow's Bay beating out
00:23:52out Harrison Ford. A lot of people people thought that Harrison Ford Ford would be taking home his first
00:23:55first ever Emmy tonight, but that's that's not the case. Stephen Root Root took that one away. So yes,
00:23:59yes, all go here and expect more more winners to come as the evening
00:24:02evening goes on. Yeah. And Liam just just talk us through perhaps some
00:24:04some of the big TV shows that are are up for nomination. I've seen
00:24:08seen in the reality sector that the
00:24:11the show The Traitors has come home home with a win. Yeah. Traitors has
00:24:14has come home for a win hosted by by Ellen Cummings. Ellen has won
00:24:18won Emmys before for acting and now now he's winning it for reality series.
00:24:21series. Traitors has obviously taken taken the world by storm. Lots of of different countries around the
00:24:25the world have their own version version of the show now, so it really
00:24:27really and truly is a phenomenon. phenomenon. Of course, the other
00:24:31other big shows everybody are talking talking about is Widow's Bay, which
00:24:34which was a huge blow away hit over
00:24:36over the last year for Apple TV.
00:24:39TV. Obviously the pet with 25 nominations nominations is pretty groundbreaking.
00:24:42groundbreaking. Of course Hacks as as well. Those are really the shows shows to be watching, but you never
00:24:46never know. You never know the way way that things are going to go.
00:24:48go. But as I say so far, pretty smooth smooth sailing in terms of the prediction
00:24:52prediction market. If you put some some money on it, you've done a good good job tonight. Yeah. If you'd
00:24:55you'd like to get up to speed and and keep up with all the winners
00:24:59winners from the Emmys and then just just log on to bbc.com. You can also
00:25:02also find it on our mobile app as as well. Do we have a live page up
00:25:05up and running detailing all the the winners in the big talking points
00:25:09points from the Emmys? Dolly Parton Parton she has been honoured with
00:25:11with a tribute after she died last last month at the age of 80. Actress
00:25:15Actress Sally field honouring her, her, calling her genuine and humble,
00:25:19humble, supportive and blisteringly blisteringly funny. So there's plenty
00:25:21plenty more about the Emmys on our
00:25:23our website. Just hours before the
00:25:26the awards, it was announced that that legendary fashion designer Bob
00:25:29Bob Mackie, famous for dressing stars stars like Cher and Diana Ross in
00:25:33in extravagant designs, has died died at the age of 87. Now, Mackie
00:25:36Mackie had an outsized impact on on the entertainment industry, and
00:25:39and his designs are frequently referenced referenced in TV shows like RuPaul's
00:25:42RuPaul's Drag Race and Hacks. He He even appeared as himself in the
00:25:45the last season of hacks, which has has already won awards at this year's
00:25:48year's Emmys. Mackie's designed dazzling dazzling costumes for stars including
00:25:52including Cher, Tina Turner, Dolly Dolly Parton and Elton John. Known
00:25:55Known and he was known as the Sultan
00:25:57Sultan of Sequins. I'll be back shortly
00:25:59shortly with more on Business Today.
00:27:35it looks like being dry and sunny.
00:29:39interviews, results and goals as as we follow every twist of the Premier
00:29:43Premier League season here on BBC
00:29:47BBC News. MUSIC
00:30:06Live from Singapore now on BBC
00:30:10News, Business Today. AI linked stocks
00:30:17stocks are plunging worldwide after after the heads of major AI companies
00:30:21companies warned the technology is is developing too quickly, raising
00:30:23raising fresh concerns about the the future of the industry. Retail
00:30:27Retail sales slow in the world's world's second largest economy as
00:30:30as efforts to boost domestic consumption consumption fall short in China and
00:30:34and Tesla gears up to unveil its its long delayed second generation
00:30:37generation Roadster nearly nine years years after the original prototype
00:30:40prototype was revealed. Hello and
00:30:48and welcome to Business Today with with me Steve Lai AI linked stocks
00:30:52stocks are under pressure globally globally after the bosses of some some of the biggest AI companies
00:30:55companies called for a slower pace pace of development, warning of potentially
00:30:58potentially serious