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00:00:13Live from London. This is BBC
00:00:15News. Anthropic co-founder says AI
00:00:17AI firms may need a compulsory kill
00:00:20kill switch to stop the technology
00:00:23technology spiralling out of control. control. The public inquiry into
00:00:25into how Lucy Letby was able to murder murder seven babies and attempt to
00:00:29to kill seven more is due to be published
00:00:32published today. Yemen's Houthi say
00:00:35say Saudi Arabia launches fresh strikes strikes after the Iran backed group
00:00:39group targeted military bases in
00:00:41in the kingdom. Prince Harry and
00:00:44and Meghan's police protection will will be reviewed after changing their
00:00:47their children's school over security
00:00:49security concerns. Also coming up,
00:00:51up, British success at the Emmys.
00:00:54Emmys. Matthew Rhys makes history
00:00:56history with two best lead Actor Actor awards as Kate O'Flynn and
00:00:59and Alan coming also take home trophies.
00:01:11trophies. Hello and a very warm welcome
00:01:13welcome to the programme. I'm Sally Sally Bundock, the co-founder of
00:01:17of one of the world's biggest artificial artificial intelligence companies
00:01:19companies has told the BBC that AI
00:01:22AI firms may need a compulsory kill
00:01:24kill switch to prevent the technology
00:01:27technology spiralling out of control. control. Anthropic Jack Clark says
00:01:31says AI is getting smarter and more more capable every few months, which
00:01:34which could become a major risk to
00:01:36to society. President Trump has angrily angrily rejected calls to slow down
00:01:40down the development of AI, calling
00:01:42calling fears it poses a threat to
00:01:45to humanity as a big hoax. Our economics
00:01:49economics editor, Faisal Islam reports. reports. We've made for complex. complex. One AI giant Anthropic called
00:01:53called to slow down the AI race. race. A whistleblower and safety
00:01:57safety experts at the company said said there was a 1 in 10 chance or
00:02:01or higher that the technology could could kill all humans. Their boss
00:02:04boss is this man Jack Clark, a Brit Brit and founder of the company.
00:02:07company. Speaking exclusively to to the BBC from Silicon Valley. How
00:02:11How have you and your industry let let this happen? What's happened
00:02:14happened is the technology has got got substantially more powerful.
00:02:17powerful. And those risks which were were once academic or theorised,
00:02:21theorised, we can now see the early early signs of them. What do you
00:02:24you specifically think? Here? Is
00:02:25Is the risk sort of swarms of AI
00:02:29AI taking over the internet, closing closing down power stations or wiping
00:02:32wiping out financial institutions? institutions? I think it's time to
00:02:35to sort of spell out what it practically practically means. For basic risk
00:02:39risk is how well do you fancy your your chances at being able to deal
00:02:42deal with the risks of a system that that is 100 times smarter than the
00:02:46the smartest person on the planet? planet? I think that your chance
00:02:49chance of dealing with that and getting getting out in a safe way is pretty
00:02:53pretty low. So high level you need
00:02:56need to control AI as a technology technology because you're making making things that might be smarter
00:02:59smarter than people, things that that are smarter than people could could be really, really, really dangerous.
00:03:03dangerous. It raises the question question of some sort of kill switch. switch. I mean, have you guys got
00:03:07got one? Can you pull the plug? I
00:03:11I think most most labs have different different ways of being able to pull pull the plug. And yes, of course
00:03:15course we have systems in place for for this, but this is the kind of
00:03:17of thing that you want to feed into into the larger policy conversation.
00:03:21conversation. Should you mandate mandate that companies definitely definitely have a kill switch? And
00:03:24And is that kill switch verifiable verifiable by a third party? I think think that's the kind of thing that
00:03:28that society is going to want to to know and might want to eventually
00:03:31eventually pass rules around. But But it may already be too late. It's
00:03:35It's not too late and I don't believe
00:03:37believe that we're yet at this maximal
00:03:40maximal kind of danger zone. But But we are close enough that we need
00:03:43need to be taking this seriously seriously and having national level
00:03:46level public conversations about about it. The bosses of the rest
00:03:49rest of the industry have joined joined Anthropic from Elon Musk and
00:03:53and ChatGPT maker OpenAI, agreeing
00:03:54agreeing on some sort of slowdown. slowdown. President Trump, on the
00:03:58the other hand, did not criticising criticising the company, saying fears
00:04:01fears were a hoax and that the only only control needed was him. We're
00:04:05We're seeing increasing calls for
00:04:08for nations to get together and establish establish some base rules around
00:04:12around this, and this has happened happened in the past with technologies
00:04:15technologies which we call dual use use that can be used for good and
00:04:17and ill. And let's not forget AI AI is going to deliver extraordinary
00:04:21extraordinary benefits to us, but but we need to be very alert to the
00:04:24the harms to. Right now, AI investment investment seems to be boosting the
00:04:28the UK economy and there are some some promises of AI cures for cancer.
00:04:32cancer. Jack Clark team, though,
00:04:34though, said unchecked the economic economic impact could be unprecedented.
00:04:37unprecedented. White collar unemployment. unemployment. When you put it all
00:04:41all together, is it really worth worth it? Does it cause you sleepless
00:04:44sleepless nights? What might happen?
00:04:47happen? I mean, of course we have have to get this right. I think if
00:04:50if we get this technology right,
00:04:53right, we are going to change the the world in so many positive ways.
00:04:57ways. We are going to genuinely change change the face of science, change
00:05:00change the face of healthcare. We're We're going to expand the frontiers
00:05:03frontiers of what you or I or any any of our children could ever do.
00:05:06do. And if we get it wrong, we are
00:05:10are going to massively disrupt the the economy immiserated people and
00:05:14and potentially cause harm. The message message that the world still has
00:05:17has choices over the pace of artificial artificial intelligence. But time
00:05:20time is running out. Faisal Islam,
00:05:22Islam, BBC News. And the stark warnings
00:05:25warnings about AI comes amid a race race between America and China to
00:05:29to become the dominant player in in the market. President Xi is due
00:05:32due to visit Washington later this this month. Our China correspondent
00:05:36correspondent in Beijing, Laura Bicker, Bicker, is following the developments.
00:05:39developments. When it comes to a a slowdown in China hasn't explicitly
00:05:43explicitly reacted to that. What What they have said is they've pushed
00:05:47pushed back against any claims that
00:05:49that China's development in artificial
00:05:51artificial intelligence poses any
00:05:54any international security risks. risks. However, it is worth pointing
00:05:57pointing out that this debate has
00:06:00has erupted at a time when the two two superpowers are scheduled to
00:06:03to meet. There was that meeting here
00:06:05here in China earlier this year,
00:06:07year, and now Donald Trump will welcome welcome Xi Jinping is scheduled to
00:06:10to welcome Xi Jinping next week. week. So there is a lot of pressure pressure on both leaders to come
00:06:14come up with some kind of plan. China
00:06:18China has long advocated for more more global governance of artificial
00:06:22artificial intelligence. President President Xi Jinping did it again
00:06:24again at a summit in India at the
00:06:28the weekend, calling for an international international framework and for more
00:06:31more sharing of technology. And I I think that is where there is going
00:06:35going to be many sticking points points because when it comes to both
00:06:38both countries approach to AI, it
00:06:40it is very, very different. China China advocates a more open source
00:06:43source approach sharing of technology technology where it will help innovation.
00:06:47innovation. But China may also see see any calls for a slowdown as a
00:06:51a way to curb its development. Laura
00:06:54Laura Bicker there in Beijing. Well, Well, the tech expert Lisa Martin
00:06:57Martin gave us her reaction to the the kill switch statement. What we
00:07:01we need globally when we think about
00:07:03about AI, I really leaned into what
00:07:05what Jack Clark said because I think
00:07:09think regardless, every company needs
00:07:11needs an ability to stop AI. I do
00:07:13do think the kill switch term, I
00:07:16I think it makes it sound simpler
00:07:18simpler than it is. But if you like
00:07:20like distil this issue, the biggest biggest issue here is human control.
00:07:24control. We know that AI is moving
00:07:26moving so fast right from answering answering our questions to now taking
00:07:29taking actions for us with AI. So
00:07:32So we're not just giving these systems systems more intelligence any more,
00:07:35more, we're giving them more authority
00:07:38authority and authority is is access
00:07:40access to data, to software, to networks.
00:07:43networks. So what I want to know
00:07:44know from every tech company is what
00:07:47what can your AI access? What is is it authorised to do and not to
00:07:51to do? Who can revoke that authority?
00:07:55authority? And can you contain it it or stop it if something goes wrong?
00:07:58wrong? I think Jack Clark makes a a very important point. Like don't
00:08:01don't just take the AI company's company's word for it. And I believe
00:08:04believe this firmly. Test it right, right, audit it independently verify
00:08:07verify it. I say yes because if we
00:08:10we give the AI the authority to act, act, which we are doing more and
00:08:14and more humans have got to remain remain the authority to stop it.
00:08:18it. OK. Now we've mentioned that
00:08:20that President Xi is coming to the the United States at the end of the
00:08:24the month. He's going to have a meeting meeting with President Trump. They They have an awful lot on their agenda,
00:08:28agenda, but this is bound to be discussed.
00:08:30discussed. I just wonder to what
00:08:32what extent we could hope for the
00:08:35the two seeing eye to eye on this
00:08:37this matter. Interestingly, over over the weekend we had the first
00:08:41first public statement in China from
00:08:43from the Ministry of State Security, Security, which detailed threats
00:08:47threats the technology presents to
00:08:49to China, including China's cyber cyber defences, sensitive data and
00:08:53and military apparatus. So there
00:08:55there are some warnings in China
00:08:58China as well. There's also warnings warnings here in America like what
00:09:02what when President Trump said on
00:09:04on Sunday, he said whoever wins AI
00:09:06AI wins. And I that concerned me
00:09:10me because, well, we know that I'm. I'm. And I'm here in Silicon Valley,
00:09:13Valley, America can't slow down while while we let China keep racing ahead.
00:09:17ahead. But I do think President Trump Trump has a point about the stakes,
00:09:21stakes, right? He talks about AI AI leadership, but what it means
00:09:25means more and more is beyond geopolitical geopolitical power. It's economic
00:09:28economic power. It's also military
00:09:31military power and geopolitical. geopolitical. Lucy Martin there.
00:09:34there. Well, there's a lot to discuss discuss on this subject in business. business. Of course, we'll unpack
00:09:38unpack it. There's been tech stocks stocks sell off on markets, etc it's
00:09:41it's all there. So that's coming coming a little later. Now here in
00:09:45in the UK, the findings from a public public inquiry into how Lucy Letby
00:09:49Letby was able to repeatedly murder
00:09:51murder and harm babies will be published
00:09:53published today. The Thirlwall Inquiry
00:09:55Inquiry was set up to look into what
00:09:58what happened at the Countess of
00:10:02of Chester Hospital between 2015 2015 and 2016, while Letby was working
00:10:05working as a nurse in the neonatal
00:10:07neonatal unit. Now aged 36 years
00:10:10years old, she's serving 15 whole
00:10:11whole life prison terms. The inquiry
00:10:14inquiry was not tasked with examining
00:10:16examining Letby guilt. Lauren Moss Moss has this report. The offences
00:10:20offences of murder and attempted attempted murder have been identified
00:10:23identified and you have been identified identified as a suspect of these
00:10:26these offences. Lucy Letby, seen seen here on police body camera footage
00:10:30footage arrested at her home on suspicion suspicion of murdering vulnerable
00:10:33vulnerable babies on a neonatal hospital hospital ward. You're going to have have to go to the police station
00:10:37station to be questioned about these these allegations. Being a nurse
00:10:41nurse was her dream job. And is it
00:10:43it a job that you enjoyed? I love
00:10:48love my job. She would go on to be
00:10:51be convicted of murdering seven babies, babies, making her the UK's most
00:10:55most prolific child serial killer
00:10:57killer of modern times. Now the findings findings of an inquiry looking into
00:11:01into how Letby was able to harm those those in her care but not reviewing
00:11:05reviewing her convictions will be be published later. This whole process
00:11:09process has been very, very difficult difficult and at times very, very
00:11:12very traumatic for them. Lawyer Richard Richard Scorer represents some of
00:11:15of the babies families. It's very
00:11:19very clear that there were serious
00:11:22serious failings and the responsibility responsibility for ensuring that that the police were brought in and
00:11:25and brought in at an early stage stage when it was clear that there
00:11:28there was potential criminal activity, activity, that responsibility ultimately
00:11:31ultimately rested with the senior senior managers and they failed.
00:11:35failed. Between June 2015 and 2016, 2016, a number of babies collapsed
00:11:38collapsed and died at the Countess Countess of Chester Hospital. In
00:11:42In August 2023, Lucy Letby was found found guilty of murdering seven babies
00:11:45babies and the attempted murder of of six others. A year later, she
00:11:48she was convicted of the attempted attempted murder of a seventh baby
00:11:52baby and is serving 15 whole life
00:11:54life sentences in prison. The government government launched the Thirwall
00:11:57Thirwall inquiry into what happened happened and hearings began in September
00:12:01September 2024. They concluded in
00:12:03in March last year and the report report will be published later. It
00:12:06It is not the actions of Lucy Letby
00:12:10Letby that I am scrutinising. It
00:12:11It is the actions of all those who
00:12:14who were in the hospital. What they they did at the time, in the light
00:12:18light of what they knew at the time time and in the light of what they
00:12:21they should have known at the time. time. The inquiry is taking place
00:12:25place while a campaign by some to
00:12:27to prove Lucy Libby's innocence has has grown in the background, her
00:12:30her legal team wants her convictions convictions reviewed and a group
00:12:34group of medical experts have questioned questioned the evidence. In summary,
00:12:37summary, ladies and gentlemen, we we did not find any murders. The
00:12:41The families of Libby's victims who who suffered at the Countess of Chester
00:12:44Chester Hospital. They say they hope hope the inquiry leads to lasting
00:12:48lasting change. The legal reality reality is that Lucy Letby has been
00:12:51been convicted. We have these long,
00:12:53long, often long running and often
00:12:56often expensive inquiries, and they're they're very important for learning
00:12:59learning lessons. But often the recommendations recommendations are never implemented
00:13:02implemented and it's a betrayal not
00:13:04not just of the people who've suffered suffered in these cases. Families
00:13:08Families like those I represent. represent. It's actually betrayal
00:13:11betrayal of the public. The inquiry's inquiry's conclusions will be published
00:13:14published this afternoon. Lauren
00:13:16Lauren Moss, BBC News. Now the latest
00:13:19latest on what's going on in the the Gulf. Yemen's Houthi movement
00:13:23movement says Saudi Arabia has launched launched renewed air strikes across
00:13:26across the west of the country after after the Iran backed group announced
00:13:30announced it targeted military bases bases in the kingdom. The Houthis
00:13:34Houthis said the Saudi attacks hit
00:13:36hit areas including Taiz, al-Jawf al-Jawf and Hodeida. The group had
00:13:40had earlier targeted the King Khalid Khalid air base in southern Saudi
00:13:44Saudi Arabia. The extent of the damage damage in both attacks has not been
00:13:47been verified, and there's been no no reaction from Riyadh. Last week,
00:13:51week, the Houthis seized control
00:13:53control of Yemen's Red Sea coast
00:13:55coast and Bab al-Mandab Strait from from Jerusalem. Here's our Middle
00:13:59Middle East correspondent Hugo Bachega.
00:14:01Bachega. The Houthis say they fired fired dozens of missiles and drones
00:14:05drones at a military base in southern southern Saudi Arabia, targeting
00:14:09targeting radar systems, runways runways and ammunition depots, and
00:14:12and there were emergency alerts issued issued by the Saudi authorities for
00:14:16for several locations around this
00:14:18this base. And in Yemen, government
00:14:20government forces supported by Saudi Saudi Arabia are trying to fight
00:14:23fight back. The Houthis have accused
00:14:26accused Saudi Arabia of carrying
00:14:28carrying out more than 300 air strikes
00:14:31strikes in the past five days. This This has been a rapid advance by
00:14:34by the Houthis, capturing a key territory
00:14:38territory along the Red Sea. And And the fear here is that this could
00:14:41could reignite the civil war in Yemen.
00:14:44Yemen. The United Nations says that
00:14:47that more than 80,000 people have have already been displaced because
00:14:51because of the fighting, and we still still don't know if the Houthis will
00:14:54will try to seize even more territory
00:14:56territory or if there will be a larger
00:15:00larger offensive by the government government and its allies. But the
00:15:03the violence in Yemen is also putting
00:15:06putting pressure on energy supplies supplies because the Red Sea has
00:15:09has become a key alternative for
00:15:11for Saudi oil exports. Given that that the Strait of Hormuz has been
00:15:15been effectively closed because of
00:15:18of the US war against Iran, and it
00:15:21it isn't clear if the Houthis have have the ability or are planning
00:15:25planning to disrupt a shipment in
00:15:28in this vital waterway. And finally,
00:15:30finally, reports say that a crucial
00:15:33crucial Saudi pipeline that was struck struck in a drone attack a few days
00:15:36days ago is likely to remain closed
00:15:40closed for a few weeks for the damage
00:15:43damage to be repaired, and this could
00:15:45could squeeze oil prices even further.
00:15:49further. Hugo Bachega there in Jerusalem. Jerusalem. Well, several Gulf states
00:15:52states are struggling amid the stalemate
00:15:54stalemate between the US and Iran.
00:15:56Iran. Alia Al-Khaled is a former former member of Kuwait's National
00:15:59National Assembly and explained how
00:16:01how her country is being
00:16:05affected. Kuwait air Defence has has repeatedly intercepted Iranian Iranian ballistic missiles and drones,
00:16:09drones, and some of those strikes strikes affected energy facilities
00:16:12facilities and have caused some infrastructure infrastructure damage and electricity,
00:16:15electricity, electricity plants and and some oil fields and multiple
00:16:19multiple injuries among personnel
00:16:21personnel and workers at those areas.
00:16:24areas. The blockage of the Strait
00:16:26Strait of Hormuz by Iran has severely
00:16:30severely restricted Kuwait primary primary shipping lanes, causing a
00:16:33a backlog in oil exports and increasing
00:16:37increasing state revenues. So therefore,
00:16:40therefore, to combat mounting budget
00:16:43budget deficit that Kuwait is suffering
00:16:46suffering from and massive reconstruction reconstruction costs, the Kuwaiti
00:16:50Kuwaiti government issued emergency
00:16:53emergency decrees allowing it to
00:16:56to borrow up to 10% from its future
00:16:59future Generation Fund. We'll have
00:17:03have more on oil prices and the impact impact on the economy and business
00:17:05business also still to come. British
00:17:08British success at the Emmys. Matthew Matthew Rhys makes history with two
00:17:12two best lead Actor awards as Cato
00:17:15Cato Flynn and Alan coming also take take home trophies
00:18:20with hyper. Join me Martin Sharkey
00:18:21Sharkey I'll take now on BBC News.
00:18:30News. You're
00:18:35You're with BBC News. Prince Harry has complained repeatedly about about the removal of the security
00:18:37security he had as an active royal. royal. He said it has left him and
00:18:40and his family at risk, even unsuccessfully
00:18:44unsuccessfully challenging it in in the courts. It's now emerged his
00:18:47his security and for him in the family family is going to be reviewed. The
00:18:50The committee, which oversees royal
00:18:52royal and VIP security known as Ravec,
00:18:54Ravec, is to reconsider the level level of police protection in the
00:18:58the UK. Ellie Price has more. It
00:19:01It was the first glimpse into the the new life of the Sussex family.
00:19:05family. An Instagram video posted
00:19:06posted by Meghan, Duchess of Sussex Sussex showing five-year-old Lilibet
00:19:10Lilibet and seven-year-old Archie Archie their faces hidden enjoying
00:19:14enjoying a trip out. But now a spokesperson spokesperson for the family has confirmed
00:19:17confirmed the children have had to to change schools. Just days into
00:19:20into the new school term. The locations locations of the schools were of
00:19:23of course kept private, but even even so, it's understood that there
00:19:27there were concerns from the family's family's security team about the
00:19:31the practicalities of their first first choice. Prince Harry and his
00:19:34his wife Meghan lost their publicly publicly funded security when they
00:19:37they stepped back from royal duties
00:19:38duties and moved to the US in January
00:19:41January 2020. The Duke of Sussex Sussex appealed that decision, made
00:19:44made by Ravec, an independent body body overseen by the Home Office.
00:19:48Office. In the court last May and and lost. For the time being. It's
00:19:52It's impossible for me to take my my family back to the UK. I can't
00:19:55can't see a world in which I would would be bringing my wife and children
00:19:59children back to the UK at this point. point. Is it totally normal? But
00:20:01But this summer the family did come come back first on holiday where
00:20:05where Harry appeared at various charity charity events. And now for what's
00:20:08what's been described as an extended extended period of time. As a result,
00:20:11result, it's understood the Sussexes Sussexes will be given a review of
00:20:14of their publicly funded security security now that they are full-time
00:20:18full-time residents rather than visitors. visitors. The King has made clear
00:20:21clear the pair will not be working working royals and will not carry
00:20:25carry out official engagements. But But their security may yet be stepped
00:20:28stepped up as if they were Ellie
00:20:30Ellie Price. BBC News. Let's bring bring you some other stories making
00:20:34making headlines. The US military military has confirmed it has weapons
00:20:37weapons deployed in space. It's believed
00:20:38believed to be the first public acknowledgement
00:20:41acknowledgement of such capabilities. capabilities. Officials say weapons weapons were already in operation
00:20:45operation and capable of defending
00:20:47defending American assets. Rapper
00:20:50Rapper Macklemore has been dropped dropped from Ed Sheeran's US tour
00:20:54tour after making pro-Palestinian pro-Palestinian comments on stage stage earlier this month. The artist
00:20:58artist was criticised by Jewish groups
00:21:00groups after saying Free Palestine
00:21:03Palestine at two concerts. One of
00:21:05of Italy's busiest airports. Catania
00:21:08Catania in Sicily, has been forced forced to suspend all flights for
00:21:11for a second time in recent months
00:21:13months due to volcanic activity from
00:21:15from nearby Mount Etna. The airport airport usually serves around 12
00:21:1912 million passengers a year. It It was also closed in August for
00:21:22for almost a week. TV's biggest night
00:21:25night the Primetime Emmy Awards, Awards, have been taking place in
00:21:29in Los Angeles. Winners include talk
00:21:31talk show host Stephen Colbert. The
00:21:34The total number of trophies awarded
00:21:36awarded this year has been reduced, reduced, with some categories merged.
00:21:40merged. Allison Janney. You might might remember her from The West
00:21:43West Wing, made history with her her eighth award. She won Outstanding
00:21:46Outstanding Supporting Actress in
00:21:48in the drama The. Meanwhile, it was
00:21:51was the Welsh actor Matthew Rhys
00:21:53Rhys who has made all the headlines
00:21:55headlines because he has made history
00:21:58history winning two lead actor categories categories in the same night for
00:22:01for the very first time. And this
00:22:02this is for his work in Widow's Bay
00:22:06Bay and The Beast In Me. The pop pop star Taylor Swift missed the
00:22:09the Emmy Awards in favour of an NFL
00:22:12NFL game as she cheered on her husband,
00:22:15husband, Travis Kelce. However, she she did appear in a video like a
00:22:19a cameo appearance which was very very entertaining indeed. Our North
00:22:21North America correspondent David David Willis is in LA and has the
00:22:25the latest. Very big night for Widow's
00:22:27Widow's Bay and as you mentioned mentioned that is a hit TV series
00:22:31series that four months ago nobody
00:22:34nobody here had even heard of. But
00:22:36But it has become a smash hit both
00:22:39both with the critics and with viewers.
00:22:41viewers. Very much a word-of-mouth
00:22:44word-of-mouth hit if you like, but
00:22:46but it picked up 14 Emmy Awards tonight,
00:22:50tonight, including, as you mentioned, mentioned, one for Matthew Rhys.
00:22:53Rhys. He got two Emmys in total.
00:22:56total. And that sets a record. He
00:22:58He also is the first actor to win
00:23:02win awards in all three Emmy genre
00:23:07genre categories for the for acting,
00:23:09acting, for comedy, for drama and
00:23:11and for limited series. So a very,
00:23:13very, very big night for him and
00:23:17and also for his co-star Kate O'Flynn,
00:23:20O'Flynn, who plays alongside him
00:23:22him in Widow's Bay. She was nominated
00:23:25nominated for her first Emmy and
00:23:26and she won it and she said it was
00:23:29was a dream come true. Yeah, fantastic
00:23:32fantastic win. The Brits did really
00:23:35really well. Talk us through some
00:23:37some of the other winners and highlights.
00:23:40highlights. Well, I tell you what,
00:23:43what, there was a record at risk
00:23:46risk tonight that involved. Gene
00:23:47Gene sharp, who of course has played
00:23:50played in Hacks since the series
00:23:52series began. And Hacks started out
00:23:55out the night with a slew of nominations,
00:23:59nominations, but it was up against against Widow's Bay in that comedy
00:24:02comedy category. And basically the
00:24:04the fifth and final season went largely
00:24:07largely unmarked, although she did
00:24:08did get as the star of the show a
00:24:11a fifth consecutive award, a Gary
00:24:13Gary Oldman. You mentioned Brits
00:24:15Brits there was up for a best actor
00:24:18actor for the third year in succession
00:24:21succession for his portrayal of the
00:24:24the spymaster in Slow Horses, but but he was beaten to the post for
00:24:28for a third time by the star of The
00:24:30The Pitt. Noah Wyle. It's worth mentioning
00:24:33mentioning The Pitt Sally because
00:24:35because that went into these nominations
00:24:39nominations with 25 nominees and and in actual fact it picked up as
00:24:42as well. The best actor and the best
00:24:45best drama, which is the biggest biggest award, of course, of the
00:24:48the night at the Emmys. And I know know it was a very, very moving moment
00:24:52moment when Michael J. Fox appeared
00:24:54appeared on stage in his wheelchair. wheelchair. He was given a standing
00:24:58standing ovation as he received the the Bob Hope Humanitarian Award for
00:25:02for his tireless campaigning for
00:25:04for Parkinson's disease. A very moving
00:25:08moving moment. One of a number Michael
00:25:10Michael J. Fox making a very humble
00:25:14humble speech and having a standing
00:25:16standing ovation as he took to the
00:25:18the stage. The Peacock Theater in in downtown Los Angeles tonight.
00:25:22tonight. A tribute was also paid. paid. As you'd expect, to Dolly Parton,
00:25:26Parton, who passed away three weeks
00:25:29weeks ago and president on stage
00:25:31stage as well. Tonight were three
00:25:34three of the original members of
00:25:37of Charlie's Angels. Remember that
00:25:38that they were marking the 50th anniversary
00:25:42anniversary of that hit TV show.
00:25:45show. 50 Years of Charlie's Angels. Angels. That's fantastic. David Willis Willis there. Well, let's just show
00:25:49show you the image of Michael J. J. Fox. It's on our website with
00:25:52with all the lowdown on the Emmys. Emmys. You can see all the detail detail and the photographs and the
00:25:56the pictures and all the glamour glamour and the glitz. He's now 65
00:26:0065 years old, Michael J. Fox, who who got a standing ovation at the
00:26:03the event. The Bob Hope Humanitarian
00:27:37it looks like being dry and sunny.
00:29:42people coping? For more coverage
00:29:43coverage join me James Landale here
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